Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:29:38 +0700 GMT (23-Apr-20, 9:29 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello Paul,

> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:57:59 -0400 GMT (22-Apr-20, 22:57 +0700 GMT),
> Paul Van Noord wrote:

> Over here it is 10 minutes. Please try opening the mail again and
> re-read, maybe edit, when the time hits and TB sends messages. It will
> send this message, even though you have re-opened it and are editing
> it.

 Can confirm. Is this an error? I've been using TheBat! since very late
 v8 builds, maybe behaviour was different earlier on.

TF>>> I consider it an error (bug), because TB does something the user does
TF>>> clearly not intend. If he wanted the original version to be sent, he
TF>>> wouldn't have opened it again in th editor.

TF>>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

>> Did it.

> Thanks. I am putting this reply in the Outbox now, testing the new
> 18.MSI. Then, I will open it again and wait.

> This is the edited version.

So, what happened is that the message stayed in the Outbox, unparked,
while I had opened it in the editor again. I waited two sending
perdiods (my TB is set to send/receive every 10 minutes, so I waited
almost 30 minutes), and the message did not get sent.

So, while there is no "park" icon, it appears that the problem is
fixed in 9.1.18 (but I tested it only once). Can anybody confirm?

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Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:57:59 -0400 GMT (22-Apr-20, 22:57 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:

 Over here it is 10 minutes. Please try opening the mail again and
 re-read, maybe edit, when the time hits and TB sends messages. It will
 send this message, even though you have re-opened it and are editing
 it.

>>> Can confirm. Is this an error? I've been using TheBat! since very late
>>> v8 builds, maybe behaviour was different earlier on.

TF>> I consider it an error (bug), because TB does something the user does
TF>> clearly not intend. If he wanted the original version to be sent, he
TF>> wouldn't have opened it again in th editor.

TF>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

> Did it.

Thanks. I am putting this reply in the Outbox now, testing the new
18.MSI. Then, I will open it again and wait.

This is the edited version.

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Re: 9.1.14 Languages

2020-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:11:15 +0700 GMT (15-Apr-20, 16:11 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello Martin,

> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:46:42 +0200 GMT (15-Apr-20, 14:46 +0700 GMT),
> Martin wrote:

>>> Options / Languages does not show any languages any more. I just
>>> wanted to switch from English to German in order to help someone on
>>> the German TB Beginner's List, that's why I noticed.

>> Can't confirm this - all languages are present.

>> Did you install also the language pack? In the installing process you
>> can choose it - normally it is turned non.

>> Did you try to "repair" the installation?

> I had all languages available for years... OK, I'll make sure at next
> MSI installation that Language Pack is ticked.

Mystery solved: "Multilingual Interface" was indeed X-ed out.

So I wanted to enbable it weih this new .msi, and I found two choices
under Mutliligual Interface:

- Will be installed on local harddrive
- The entire feature will be installed on local harddrive

What is the difference?

I chose the second, because I use this machine for beta testing as
well as giving advice on the German list, but would like to know the
difference anyway.

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Re: TB v9.1.18 MSI - Toolbar problems

2020-04-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-18.msi
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi

Toolbar customisation not saved in mail editor (component "TMsgEditor")
See: 

This happens when I change the toolbar in the mail editor via "Add or
remove buttons" from the drop down menu at the end of a toolbar.

I found this in the 32 bit and in the 64 bit version.


By the side: a change of the language also destroys the toolbar
customisations.
See: 

All bugs are done on a cleaned machine:
-old folders are erased (in %appdata% and
 %programfiles%/%programfiles(x86)%)
-registry is cleand, no "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" exist

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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread John Schmid
Hi Alexander,

This URL worked to download the installer.  Up and running.

Thank you,

John Schmid

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 11:33:39 AM, you wrote:

> Maybe it's the cache of your web-browser. Please try to follow this link:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_9-1-18-1.exe?a




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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Curt at Down in the Country
Hello Maxim,

U

 Curt
 Sent from my office desktop by The Bat!
 Using The Bat! Version 9.1.18 (64-bit) Windows 7  (32)
 with HughesNet Gen5 Satellite Internet
 Duetomajor   policy   disagreements,   we   no   longer   use
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Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 9:55:27 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi



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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Maxim,

MMvT> The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files and Voyager are available at:
MMvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi
U
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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Paul Van Noord
4/22/2020  11:59 AM

Hi The,

On 4/22/2020 The Bat Beta wrote:

TF> Hello Paul,

TF> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:23:00 -0400 GMT (21-Apr-20, 19:23 +0700 GMT),
TF> Paul Van Noord wrote:

 Messages used to be "parked" when opened again from the Outbox in the
 editor, to prevent this problem. That's how it should be.

G>>> My account fetches all 2 minutes.
G>>> If i put a mail in Outbox, reopen it, change something, the Autosave
G>>> feature (Editor settings, after 60 sec) detects changes and sets to Parked.
G>>> So no previous mail can be sent from Outbox.

G>>> But you are right, for better usability the message should be switched
G>>> to Parked if opened in editor.

G>>> Please report that as a bug to The Bat! bugtracker.

>> Saving  an edited Outbox message will Park it... It does Not Park while
>> editing! You and Thomas are correct. I support the bugtracker entry.

TF> Here you go: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998 Thank you very
TF> much.

Done.

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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Paul Van Noord
4/22/2020  11:57 AM

Hi The,

On 4/22/2020 The Bat Beta wrote:

TF> Hello Andrew,

TF> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:46:47 +0930 GMT (21-Apr-20, 18:16 +0700 GMT),
TF> Andrew Savchenko wrote:

>>> Over here it is 10 minutes. Please try opening the mail again and
>>> re-read, maybe edit, when the time hits and TB sends messages. It will
>>> send this message, even though you have re-opened it and are editing
>>> it.

>> Can confirm. Is this an error? I've been using TheBat! since very late
>> v8 builds, maybe behaviour was different earlier on.

TF> I consider it an error (bug), because TB does something the user does
TF> clearly not intend. If he wanted the original version to be sent, he
TF> wouldn't have opened it again in th editor.

TF> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

Did it.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Alexander Petrari via TBBETA
Hello,

Maybe it's the cache of your web-browser. Please try to follow this link:
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_9-1-18-1.exe?a

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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread John Schmid
Hi Alexander,

I just tried and it is still a batch file.

John Schmid

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 10:46:16 AM, you wrote:

> Hello,

> We have just put the correct file, you can now download Voyager.




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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Ethan J. Mings
April 22, 2020

Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 9:55:27 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi

Up and running.

Thank you.

Jerry

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Re[2]: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Alexander Petrari via TBBETA
Hello,

We have just put the correct file, you can now download Voyager.

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JS> The  file  linked to in the URL for Voyager is actually a batch
JS> file for building the executable.



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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread John Schmid
Hi Maxim,

The  file  linked to in the URL for Voyager is actually a batch
file for building the executable.

John Schmid

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 9:55:27 AM, you wrote:

> The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files and Voyager are available at:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-18.msi
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_9-1-18-1.exe


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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 22 April 2020 at 14:55 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote and made
these points

... 
TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi
... 

U

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Re: The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

> The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files and Voyager are available at:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi

Installed & running.


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The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files & Voyager

2020-04-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
The Bat! 9.1.18 MSI files and Voyager are available at:
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-18.msi
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_9-1-18-1.exe

What's new in 9.1.18 since version 9.1.16 released on April 13th, 2020:

[+] On TLS connections, The Bat! sends Signaling Cipher Suite Value (SCSV) 
"TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV" cipher suite (described in RFC 5746) to 
indicate that it is not prone to insecure renegotiations (see section 3.3 of 
the RFC). Some servers did terminate the connection immediately when there were 
no SCSV in TLS "ClientHello" (as described in the section 4.3 of the RFC). In 
such cases, The Bat! added the following message to the log file: "The server 
has closed the connection during TLS handshake"
[-] The Bat! didn't start if Windows interface language was set to Korean
[-] (#0001982) Adding a shortcut in the customizer leads to an Access Violation 
error
[-] (#0001991) Toolbar customization was not saved in the message list window 
(the window of an opened email message)
[-] (#0001976) Shortcuts in message list tabs do not work
[-] (#0001996) Hidden Quick Search by custimization let it reappear as field in 
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Re: 9.1.16.4

2020-04-22 Thread Viktor Kabelac
Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 11:55:07 AM, you wrote:


> The Bat! 9.1.16.4 (BETA) is available at
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-32.rar
Running here, fine so far. Thank you!

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Re: 9.1.16.4

2020-04-22 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Maxim,

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-64.rar

Installed and running.

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Re: 9.1.16.4

2020-04-22 Thread Ethan J. Mings
April 22, 2020

Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 5:55:07 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-64.rar

Up and running.

Jerry

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Re: 9.1.16.4

2020-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

> The Bat! 9.1.16.4 (BETA) is available at
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-64.rar

Running


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9.1.16.4

2020-04-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
The Bat! 9.1.16.4 (BETA) is available at
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-32.rar
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb91164-64.rar

What's new in 9.1.16.4 since 9.1.16.3:
[-] (#0001996) Hidden Quick Search by custimization let it reappear as field in 
mail header pane
[+] On TLS connections, The Bat! sends Signaling Cipher Suite Value (SCSV) 
"TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV" cipher suite (described in RFC 5746) to 
indicate that it is not prone to insecure renegotiations (see section 3.3 of 
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Re: 9.1.16.3 (BETA)

2020-04-22 Thread Dimitar Tomov
Title: Re: 9.1.16.3 (BETA)


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 4:17:06 PM, you wrote:





Hi Thomas,









MM> The Bat! 9.1.16.3 (BETA) is available at

Fixed partially. Icons size of the plugins (AntiSpamSniper) is not saved after restart of TheBAT:



Please advise whether you are using the 32bit version, as I cannot confirm over here.



I use 64 bit version of TheBat and AntiSpamSniper. Plugin icons added to the main toolbar at main TheBAT Window.

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Dear Sergey,

I have the same setup (ASS icons in the main toolbar) and the same issue - the setting "large icons" is applied immediately in the customization options window, but is reverted to "large icons with text" on restart of TB.

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Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Dimitar Tomov
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 8:24:16 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Dimitar,

> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 14:15:13 +0300 GMT (21-Apr-20, 18:15 +0700 GMT),
> Dimitar Tomov wrote:

>>> Steps to reproduce:

>>> I have the account set to send/receive every 10 minutes.

>>> Compose a message.
>>> Put it into the Outbox
>>> Open it again from the Outbox, for editing.
>>> While it is being edited, the previous version will be sent

>>>  ***

>>> Messages used to be "parked" when opened again from the Outbox in the
>>> editor, to prevent this problem. That's how it should be.

>>> Any confirmations?

>> I cannot confirm. I have combined delivery ON. When I "put in outbox",
>> the message is not parked. When I open it for editing, it is still not
>> parked. But if I press "receive" it does not get sent. If I press
>> "send queued", I get "nothing to send". This is on smtp account.

> Maybe it only happens when sending automatically. By the way, do you
> use IMAP or POP?

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Dear Thomas,

This is a POP account. I did not test on IMAP.

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Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gwen,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:04:54 +0200 GMT (22-Apr-20, 13:04 +0700 GMT),
Gwen wrote:

>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

> Confirmed in tracker.

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Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andrew,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:04:47 +0930 GMT (22-Apr-20, 12:34 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:

>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

> Kindly supported. Also, added the "drafts" tag.

Thanks., I don't actually know what the tags are for.

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Re: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-22 Thread Gwen
Hello Thomas,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020, at 12:30:03 [GMT +0700] (which was 07:30 where I
live) Thomas wrote:

> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

Confirmed in tracker.

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