Re[2]: 9.2.2.9

2020-09-01 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MFPA,

Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 10:45:32 PM, you wrote:

> If I insert a hard line-break by hitting  at the end of a line and
> press  at the start of the next line, it means that I want the text on
> that new line to start indented away from the window edge.  It is reasonable
> to me that when the indented line soft-wraps, the continuation lines should
> honour the tab indent.

+10!


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Re[2]: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-28 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Friday, August 28, 2020, 8:20:24 PM, you wrote:

> You have actually done so now, and the ticket is:
> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2073

Confirmed in BT.


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Re[2]: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-27 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Friday, August 28, 2020, 6:02:59 AM, you wrote:

> I reported this for version 9.2.2.1 on Aug. 4th on my
> 

Sorry, how shall I use this link?
Is there a support ticket and/or Stefan has confirmed "we are working on it"?


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Re: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 5:55:43 PM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.2.9 is available 

Clicking an external mailto: link results in AV, attached.
TB! crashes shortly after the event.


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Re: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 5:55:43 PM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.2.9 is available 

 doesn't work on empty line in MicroEd.

This is text with tabs
I had to type
in a separate text-editor
due to the issue with MicroEd

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Re[2]: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 8:53:05 PM, you wrote:

> When "soft" line wrapping is on, rewrapping function is not available because 
> it requires "hard" wrapping points.

Hmm... Why can't it be mixed? For example, your message above is occupying a 
single line, no `lf` at the end.

I would expect that selecting it and pressing a hotkey (ALT+L was the default) 
will re-format to 78 characters as per RFC. This was previous behaviour at 
least.

Is there an alternative way to keep letters within 78 chars in v9.2.2.9?

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Re: 9.2.2.9

2020-08-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 5:55:43 PM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.2.9 is available 

ALT+L shortcut in MicroEd seems to be broken.

Previous behaviour: re-format current line of text.
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Re: 9.2.2.3

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Thursday, August 13, 2020, 9:02:37 PM, you wrote:

> More changes to come soon, please stay tuned :-)

What kind of changes?.. Please give an idea what to expect.


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Re[2]: 9.2.2.1 Customize loss of settings after change of Shortcuts

2020-07-27 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gwen,

Monday, July 27, 2020, 8:33:25 PM, you wrote:

> please confirm bug:
> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2062

Confirmed.


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Re: Crashes and Hangs

2020-07-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Julian,

Saturday, July 18, 2020, 7:18:10 PM, you wrote:

> Access violation at address 019F1BAB in module
> 'thebast64.exe'. Read of address 0

Address is different, but I see AVs quite regularly.
Attaching several screenshots.  Feel free to reply at
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1978 if you'd like.


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Re: 9.2.2 MSI

2020-07-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Monday, July 13, 2020, 5:06:34 PM, you wrote:

> [-] Rearrangement of the toolbar/menu items was not properly stored

Not confirmed. See the screenshots attached: before and after the 
application restart.


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Re[2]: 9.2.2 MSI

2020-07-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stuart,

Monday, July 13, 2020, 10:47:12 PM, you wrote:

> Further to this. I do not normally use the Mail Ticker for messages, but when 
> I
> try to set it up I do not see any new messages in the ticker.  Is there some
> place to the the ticker which accounts to look at?

Right click on a folder --> General --> Show unread messages in the 
ticker.


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Re: 9.2.2 MSI

2020-07-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Monday, July 13, 2020, 5:06:34 PM, you wrote:

> Here is a list of changes for this maintenance release:

On the positive note, UI is so much faster than before! Well done.


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Re[2]: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

2020-07-04 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Saturday, July 4, 2020, 9:40:30 PM, you wrote:

> Yeah, we are going to fix it asap. I guess the problem was introduced
> when we were switching back from DevExpress controls...

Perhaps "going slower" is better than "go fast break things" when it 
comes to the e-mail client?

I have started using TheBat! since v8.X.X and so far, with every 
release, it becomes less and less predictable. I am seriously 
considering switching back to Claws or Thunderbird.

Think about it, two open-source competitors are able to offer superior
experience, security and performance compared to the commercial
"solution".

The program is littered with small and large annoyances, bug reporting
is divided between this list, "support" section in Bitrix (CMS used at
ritlabs.com), forum and Mantis. Have you considered one unified
environment for the community collaboration: Git(Hub|Lab), Phabricator,
Jira, Sourcehut?..


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Re[3]: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

2020-07-03 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Andrew,

Saturday, July 4, 2020, 12:05:24 PM, you wrote:

> Again... Reverting back to the last build with the DevExpress.

...rolling-back to v9.1.18.3 (BETA) x64 introduces a number of AV 
crashes. Had to manually rename "tbuser.EEF".


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Re[2]: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

2020-07-03 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Rolandtelle,

Saturday, July 4, 2020, 11:26:31 AM, you wrote:

> Customisation   is   saved   in   tbuser.DEF  but  when  we close then
> re-start   TheBat!,   tbuser.DEF  has  not  changed  but  the  toolbar
> customisation is lost.

Again... Reverting back to the last build with the DevExpress.


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

2020-07-03 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Thursday, July 2, 2020, 1:28:44 AM, you wrote:

> - make fixes for GnuPG interaction

Yesss...

> - improve Virtual Folders so it'll be use folder grouping (like all Inboxes, 
> all of a color, regexp)

Mmm... Okay.

> - add some interesting functionality to the preview pane

Sneak peek?

> - improve address book UI/UX

Good, but what about synchronisation?


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Re[2]: 9.2.0.3

2020-06-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gwen,

Wednesday, June 17, 2020, 11:27:43 PM, you wrote:

> If selecting some HTML message in message list two new The Bat!
> Chromium CEF processes are started and cause freezes for 2-3 sec.

Stefan,

13 June 2020, 00:09:39  (Sat, 13 Jun 2020 00:09:39 +0930) I wrote:
> Would it be possible to release a "stable" build without DevExpress
> widgets _and_ without Chromium?..

Lowering the stakes, how about a stable build just without the Chromium?


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Re[2]: Question about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Sunday, June 14, 2020, 12:00:25 AM, you wrote:

> Same  question  as  Stuart  Cuddy. Are you sure you are using v9.2.0.1
> (BETA)?

Nope, v9.1.18. This is probably a reason, DevExpress vs Old widgets.


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Re[2]: Question about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 7:28:52 PM, you wrote:

> Yes, there is. The Old one, used prior to v9 I think.

Ah, I recall that one. How have you managed to call it under v9?


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Re[2]: Question about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 5:47:59 PM, you wrote:

> How and where did you get *that* customiser?

...is there another one?! Please post a screenshot of one you see, 
this becomes intriguing.


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Re: Extend macro %TOLNAME and similar macros

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gwen,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 5:00:26 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Stefan, hello List,

Hello Gwen... "TheBat! anonymous club" welcomes you.

> My wish would be get extended name macros so the correct Lastname will be 
> detected by macro..

Perhaps we should open a discussion about more powerful/interactive
macro engine in general? LUA, Python... Or at least normal PCRE regexp.


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Re[2]: Question about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Ira,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 4:55:19 PM, you wrote:

> Weird, it clearly does not work like that here.

Are you using the same function/button? Another screenshot attached.


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Re[2]: Question about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Ira,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 4:38:47 PM, you wrote:

> I had never seen it till today and when I saw it I put in on my
> taskbar as a button in which case it doesn't seem to work as expected,
> but when I do what you showed it did what I expected. So should it
> just not be allowed as a button or should it reply to the from address
> instead of the replyto address?

Seems to work as expected. Please refer to the screenshot attached.


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Re[2]: Questionn about reply choices

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:34:58 PM, you wrote:

> Where do you find "reply to this address"?

Here:



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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1 line space

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:30:32 PM, you wrote:

> I second this. It doesn't look nice now.

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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 3:06:43 AM, you wrote:

> What's the point of keeping HTML browser on outdated engine that
> doesn't render quite a bit of HTML messages today anyway? :) 

I was dreaming of having a mail client with some of the most recent bugs
fixed, snappy UI/UX and without the heap of bugs introduced in v9.2.0.1


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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stuart,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:51:34 AM, you wrote:

> On the bright side we are getting good at recreating toolbars as if
> you create one it will disappear on reboot. :>)

That might be a motto of this list.


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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:05:26 AM, you wrote:

> Overall  UI performance seems to be back to normal after DevExpress removal.

Would it be possible to release a "stable" build without DevExpress
widgets _and_ without Chromium?..


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Re[3]: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Paul,

Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 11:35:45 PM, you wrote:

> I  have  been opening html messages with a browser since v. 1.1. Nothing
> like  using  the right tool for the job. This policy has never failed me
> yet...

...Isn't anyone concerned about the concept of "rich HTML" messages 
here? Remote content, embedded 1px images and JS...

Good HTML parser - simple HTML parser.


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Re[2]: 9.1.18.7

2020-06-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Richard,

Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote:

> I too prefer the denser list. Good idea for a solution if this is
> really an issue. I didn't think it was an issue until Stef decided to
> change it.

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Re[2]: 9.1.18.7

2020-06-08 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Monday, June 8, 2020, 7:22:29 AM, you wrote:

> We're trying to find a balance between minimizing clutter and
> effective usage of space. To me, it's time to add some air into the
> list to make things more readable and reduce stress and using 4 extra
> pixels per item is a reasonable price for that. Let's see how it goes
> :)

Are you using HiDPI by any chance?


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Re: 9.1.18.7

2020-06-07 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Sunday, June 7, 2020, 9:56:14 PM, you wrote:

> [+] Use generated colors for different email addresses in the message summary

mm... Fresh new features. Exciting! :)
Is there a "help article" for this one?


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Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 7:18:18 AM, you wrote:

> - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please
> feel free to name your favourite ones), make some minor additions and
> facelifting, then release a new v9.x.x update.

Seeing "RitLabs" and "roadmap" in one sentence makes me shed a tear.

Humble list of the top PITAs, as requested:

1. Lack of the responsive UI and tabs. Switching between full-screen and
   windows modes is clearly not a user-friendly experience, mostly due to
   the how different columns get scaled, etc. Have you tried Zimbra? Ticket
   ID #0001826
   
2. False advertisement as ASLR & DEP-capable application.
   Support ticket ID #86392 (not in Mantis)
   In a nutshell: https://i.imgur.com/rrLA9uG.png
   
> -- Unusable GPG starts here -->

3. TheBat! does not work work properly with the GnuPG keychain.
   Ticket ID #0001799
   
4. Signature is stripped from the encrypted AND signed message.
   Ticket ID #0001807 and #0001795
   
5. Message corruption if private key is not available for automatic
   decryption.
   Ticket ID #0001793
   
6. *Obligatory* "decrypted" being added to the subject-line of the
   encrypted message. Why not to make this optional is beyond me.
   Ticket ID #0001792
   
7. Messages signed using inline signature are not recognized as such in
   the messages list.
   Ticket ID #0001798

> -- Unusable GPG ends here -->
   
8. No "Plug-n-Play" way to sync contacts with the file-system. Currently 
   the least painful way for a single-user setup seems to be a VM with 
   CardDAV server of choice. Can we sync to the ~/Contacts for example?
   Ticket ID #0001856
   
9. Various "Access Violation" reports.
   Ticket ID #0001978

10. Impossible to define several "from" addresses under the one account. 
One can edit manually though, which is somewhat tedious to do every 
time.


11. No "regular" HTML-capable editor.  is hard-coded, etc.
Discussed at great length at the RitLabs forum and in this list.
   
12. Tangentially related: www.ritlabs.com is using outdated Bitrix with
forums functionality way below what vBulletin/phpBB/nodeBB/etc.
have to offer.

> - after that, we're going to remove the outdated built-in HTML
> renderer and IE-based system's one and use Chromium-based renderer
> for displaying and handling messages.

Sensible, offload security to Chromium. Good choice. Might be worth
looking at the patch-set applied by 
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

> - then, we are going to shift research focus to multi-platform
> development to make it possible to have same email setup on different
> platforms and switch between OSes and devices seamlessly

That escalated quickly. Do you think it's a little too ambitious for
now? Have you had a chance to touch-base with Embarcadero re. your
current scope of components vs multi-OS compatibility.

There is no shortage of _excellent_ e-mail clients on *nix.

> Of course, it's quite a general plan, but we tried many things that
> are coming to play already, so we are very sure we're able to fulfill
> it to a high degree. We're just praying that the Universe has reached
> its limit of black swans for this year at least :)

Maybe try leveraging community to some extend? Open development process 
where possible, active triage of bug-reports, etc.

Jira instance, GitHub/Lab, Phabricator... List goes on.

> Thank you very much for being with us, helping us to make The Bat!
> better and please be assured we are going to deliver a lot of stuff
> for you to test and enjoy! :)

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Re: Future of Beta Testing

2020-05-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Ethan,

Saturday, May 30, 2020, 9:30:38 PM, you wrote:

> Will  Beta  Testing continue for The Bat.  It would be helpful to have an 
> update from
> RIT Labs?

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Re: TBBETA farewell letter

2020-05-25 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:06:32 PM, you wrote:

> I’m leaving because I would like Stefan Tanurcov to lead the company

This is massive! Best wishes to you, Stefan and everyone at RitLabs.

Would you provide any insight as to what are your plans for the 
foreseeable future, will you continue pursuing software engineering or 
shift to something different?


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Re[2]: Does your CPU support hardware SHA1 acceleration?

2020-05-22 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gunivortus,

Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 9:21:52 PM, you wrote:

> At my PC I also saw that with data blocks etc,, but considered it
> (being a rooky at that field) as unimportant and so I only took the
> first sentence.

OK, I was starting another instance of TheBat! with the 1st instance 
running in background. As the result, 2nd one was silently crashing 
without producing any output at all.

Maxim,
If you are still reading this topic (which I kind of doubt given the
lack of replies from you), here is the output:

> This CPU does not support SHA instructions. 150 data blocks of
> 1024 bytes took 2.2180 seconds to process by SHA1 (software); 660.4376
> Megabytes per second



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Re[2]: Does your CPU support hardware SHA1 acceleration?

2020-05-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gunivortus,

Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 8:37:09 PM, you wrote:

> This CPU does not support SHA instructions ...etc.

That was indeed an outdated 3-rd gen i7. However others have reported 
the following output which I do not see:

> ---
> SHA1 benchmark
> ---
> This CPU does not support SHA instructions. 150 data blocks of 1024 bytes
> took 5.6094 seconds to process by SHA1 (software); XXX. Megabytes per 
> second
> ---



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Re: Does your CPU support hardware SHA1 acceleration?

2020-05-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 6:28:15 AM, you wrote:

> thebat64.exe /SHA1_BENCHMARK

Returns nothing to the stdout, tried both PowerShell and "cmd.exe".
v9.1.18, x64. Am I missing something?


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Re[2]: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-11 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Lüko,

Monday, May 11, 2020, 6:55:06 PM, you wrote:

> but the Procrustean bed of creating nested HTML TABLEs (shudder — one
> of the reasons why I do not recomment TheBat to others). 

Yeah...

1. https://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum6/topic10194/
2. https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum6/topic14708/
3. https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum6/topic12796/
4. https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum6/topic12876/

The list goes on. I suspect that after Maxim & Andrei are done with the 
new DevExpress widgets, we *might* see some improvements on this front.


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Re[2]: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Lüko,

Monday, May 11, 2020, 3:05:16 AM, you wrote:

>  There should be one in each subdirectory per account, there where
> your mail is kept, in the subdirectories INBOX, OUTBOX, SENT, TRASH,
> and fils ACCOUNT.*** with *** being CFN, FLB, HIS, M_D, M_R, QTB, RND,
> SRB, and VCF (some of these might be obsolete). 

Perhaps OTFP to blame? No such file, on-the-fly encryption is turned on.

>  In the directory pointed to by
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ritlabs\The Bat!\Working Directory

I have only two DWORD keys there:
- TheBat64ExeStartMenuShortcut
- TheBat64LicenceStartMenuShortcut


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Re[2]: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Sunday, May 10, 2020, 11:21:26 PM, you wrote:

> I will look for more ways to reduce the traffic to this log. I already
> found  and  turned off the account "Verbose Logging" toggle. It didn't
> improve anything.

OK, how about novel and crazy idea? Create support ticket and let
RitLabs help with their commercially-licensed application :)


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Re[2]: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Sunday, May 10, 2020, 10:20:49 PM, you wrote:

> This  shows  a lot of activity reading and writing the account_log.txt

I have no such file. Searching this mailing list returns two results,
one from Gwen back in October 2019 and another one from David Elliot 9
days ago. This makes me think writing to "account_log.txt" is optional 
and can be disabled.

Perhaps try launching Bat directly from CMD or PowerShell:
`./thebat64.exe` without flags.

Next, give a go to `/STARTUP_TIMING_LOG` and `/BENCHMARK_STARTUP_TIME`.
Former will create "ex_log.txt" file to analyse.


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Re[2]: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Sunday, May 10, 2020, 8:48:31 PM, you wrote:

> I turned it back on manually to complete this reply.

...which arrived unsigned.

On the more serious note, you might try in-built logging functionality
as well as the `Procmon.exe` from Sysinternals. Latter will show you
roughly which call takes longer than expected.

Next logical step would be WinDBG.


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Re: Delay when creating new message

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Sunday, May 10, 2020, 7:32:46 PM, you wrote:

> Is anyone else seeing this strange behaviour?

A bit of a shot in the dark, but have you tried with GPG disabled?


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Re[2]: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Sunday, May 10, 2020, 6:35:01 PM, you wrote:

> TBBETA has a 75kb limit and TBUDL 25kb.
> I suggest 150 for TBBETA and 100 for TBUDL. Thoughts?

250Kb for both? We are talking overall message size, body + headers. 
I see some peoples GPG-signing their messages as well.

> I  will  take  back  control 

Are you in UK by any chance? Because there was a precedent recently.. :)

> (where have I heard that before?) of maintenance for this number.

Thanks.

AS>> * Consider merging TDUDL/TBBETA into one.
> That's  a  very large "NO". There are 2 distinct audiences - those who
> test  new  features  and  those who want help with the current release
> version as end users.

Noted, OK.

AS>> * Move mailing lists homepage to a separate domain.
> I don't know what this means...

Its homepage is currently on the separate URL of www.silverstones.com.
I was thinking of adding some visibility and (hopefully!) attracting new
people by moving it to a second-level domain, for example:
* tbli.st
* tbl.ist
* tblist.com
* ...

In general, I am concerned about TB future as RitLabs seem to be in a 
stable decline during the last decade and I see little initiative from 
their side to improve the situation.

> I  enabled  HTTPS  back in January. If anybody else wants to take this
> over from me, go ahead - I will redirect.

https://www.silverstones.com/ returns self-signed certificate.
Could you upload archive of the currently available information?

> ... we have done this multiple times in the 20+ years that we have run
> these  lists.  The last massive move was to GMANE. They collapsed. Any
> suggestions  as  to  where  we  should try next (and have our archives
> dumped into the void when they go down too)?

Self-hosted Mailman (https://list.org) is a de-facto standard. We can push 
archives to GitHub and archive.org for historical preservation.

AS>> * Collate available TheBat! documentation / FAQs / Tips.
> That's  something  I did very enthusiastically back at the start. They
> have  not  been  maintained  and  over  the years have become somewhat
> dated.

Due to the lack of official WIKI... Shall we create un-official one?
There is an active German TheBat! forum, some members might be willing 
to help us.


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Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello All,

It is 2020 out there and TB mailing lists seem to be a little outdated.

Screenshots being stripped from the messages unless it all fits in 25Kb,
famous "Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information" footer
attached to all messages... Perhaps it is time for a maintenance?

Things that come to mind, in no particular order:

* Increase size limits for attachments.
* Remove or, at very least, update "current version" footer.
* Consider merging TDUDL/TBBETA into one.
* Move mailing lists homepage to a separate domain.
* Modernise lists website, enable HTTPs.
* Ensure lists historical data is available and easily exportable.
* Collate available TheBat! documentation / FAQs / Tips.
* etc.

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Re[2]: Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL

2020-05-07 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Friday, May 8, 2020, 11:51:30 AM, you wrote:

> Funny thing though, I tried to Export my initial message using Tools /
> Export Messages To... in order to attach it to the bug report, but the
> .msg file was never created in the target folder. I used to export
> messages in the past, so I am wondering whether this is a new bug,
> kindly check.

I have tried saving it as .EML and it worked just fine.


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Re: Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL

2020-05-07 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Friday, May 8, 2020, 11:13:09 AM, you wrote:

> So, they are not clickable by the recipient using TB. Can anybody confirm?

Confirmed, v9.1.18. Bug report?


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Re[2]: Real names not displayed correctly

2020-05-07 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Thursday, May 7, 2020, 11:36:19 PM, you wrote:

> Some powers are more powerful than RFCs.

What are you proposing here, change the laws to suit the largest player?

I believe that response from Maxim was crystal clear:

>> This is intentional behaviour, to address the Mailsploit issue.
>> .
>> Otherwise, it would have allowed effective sender spoofing in The Bat!

Is that what you want?


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Re[2]: OT: German The Bat! forum "batboard.net" seems to be down

2020-05-07 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gwen,

Thursday, May 7, 2020, 3:09:40 AM, you wrote:

> I mailed to the admin of the server. I hope he gets it.

It is up now. Could you please check with them if there is a
publicly-available backup of the forum DB?

It would be rather unfortunate to loose all the valuable information if
forum goes down forever.


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Re[2]: Real names not displayed correctly

2020-05-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 10:42:23 PM, you wrote:

> The sender's MUA is the webmailer at qq.com, one of the biggest email
> providers in China. I would think that TB should accommodate their
> flaw, as other receiving MUAs do.

With all due respect, no MUA should accommodate to a bug of a single 
provider gone rogue.

To quote Maxim (see https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1791#c6045)

M> This is intentional behaviour, to address the Mailsploit issue.
M> See https://www.mailsploit.com/index
M>
M> The address lines in From and Reply-to do not have a part surrounded
M> by <>, that is used by mail transfer agents, which do not decode
M> headers. Thus in this case The Bat! should also not decode such
M> headers. Otherwise, it would have allowed effective sender spoofing in The 
Bat!

...

> Unless Ritlabs can change China, TheBat becomes unusable for business.

Let's reduce scope of generalisation here. Until this sentence point of
discussion was a single mail server, not a country.


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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Thursday, April 23, 2020, 12:22:33 PM, you wrote:

> So, while there is no "park" icon, it appears that the problem is
> fixed in 9.1.18 (but I tested it only once). Can anybody confirm?

This is initial version... Saving.

This sentence is added while the letter is in the Outbox. Let's see if 
it gets sent automatically... No.

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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 3:00:03 PM, you wrote:

> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1998

Kindly supported. Also, added the "drafts" tag.


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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 7:49:28 PM, you wrote:

> Over here it is 10 minutes. Please try opening the mail again and
> re-read, maybe edit, when the time hits and TB sends messages. It will
> send this message, even though you have re-opened it and are editing
> it.

Can confirm. Is this an error? I've been using TheBat! since very late
v8 builds, maybe behaviour was different earlier on.


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Re[2]: Message is being sent while being edited

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 6:28:40 PM, you wrote:

> And that is a bug. I only need someone to confirm that this is not
> unique to my machine, so that I can open a bug report. Please give it
> a try.

For what it worth - I have "delayed delivery" setup so that message is 
being put into the Outbox for a minute before being actually sent.

This allows 2nd chance to re-read what is written and prevents from 
sending unfinished letter by CTRL+Enter.

This function works as expected and I do not have any trouble with it.


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Re[2]: 1991 not resolved

2020-04-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Martin and Alexander,

Monday, April 20, 2020, 8:48:48 PM, Martin wrote:

M>> In BT https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1991 set to "resolved".
M>> But over there the bug still in 9.1.16.3.
M>> Not resolved !

On my side, latest beta has fixed the issue (OTFE enabled).

> Furthermore, please use the /DECRYPT_FILE_OTFE command line parameter
> to decrypt the file userdef.xme and send us the decrypted file for
> analysis.

Is there an exhaustive list of all flags available?..



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Re: 9.1.14.2

2020-04-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Friday, April 17, 2020, 2:47:03 AM, you wrote:

> What's new in 9.1.14.2 since 9.1.14.1:
> [-] S/MIME did not work since 9.1.10
> [!] Toolbars are still glitching more than in v8.X.X branch

Please see above, reported at https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1994


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Re: 9.1.14: AV after creating new subfolder

2020-04-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 5:44:47 PM, you wrote:

> Access violation at address 010CF7E9 in module
> 'thebat64.exe'. Write of address 0218.

Looks painfully familiar. 
Please feel free to upvote https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1978


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Re: Missing attachment icon in message list

2020-04-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Martin,

Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 7:23:37 PM, you wrote:

> I got a message with a picture as attachment. But in the message list
> the icon for an attachment is missing.

Looks like a prime candidate for the bug report.


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Re[2]: The Bat! 9.1.10

2020-04-08 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello David,

Thursday, April 9, 2020, 6:35:03 AM, you wrote:

> 9.1.6 versions same problem.
> Last known good version  8.8.9

Perhaps try v9.0.16? Seems to work fine here, all newer ones are 
malfunctioning in one way or another. 


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Re[2]: Correct 9.1.8 URLs

2020-04-08 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Martin,

Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 11:53:45 PM, you wrote:

> Hi The

> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:21:34 PM you wrote:

TBL>>> Here are the correct 9.1.8 URLs:
TBL>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-8.msi
TBL>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-8.msi

TBL>>> My previous email had incorrect URLs, they pointed to 9.1.6 rather than 
9.1.8. Sorry.

>> This points to a 9.1.8 installer but the version installed still seems
>> to be 9.1.6.

> I have the same impression - "About" indicates 9.1.6

Hmm... MSI property is suggesting v9.1.8 build:

---
$ Get-MsiDatabaseProperties C:\Users\user\Downloads\thebat_64_9-1-8.msi | grep 
-i version
ProductVersion 9.1.8
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Re[2]: The Bat! 9.1.8

2020-04-08 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Marck,

Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 11:48:40 PM, you wrote:

TBL>> The Bat! 9.1.8 MSI files are available at:
TBL>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-8.msi
TBL>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-8.msi

> Failed - this is not the 9.1.8 installer but the 9.1.6

Just change 6 at the end to 8.



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Re[2]: Toolbar on top messed up

2020-04-02 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Martin,

Thursday, April 2, 2020, 7:58:36 PM, you wrote:

> Thanks. I am sorry to say this didn't work, toolbar messed up after
> startup.
> Seems that configuration is not stored.

Had the same issue with all versions after v9.0.16
Reverted back to "Christmas edition", so far OKish.


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Re: 9.0.16.6 / IMAP and Connection Center

2020-02-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Gleason,

Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:24:12 AM, you wrote:

> Confirm, the connection center cannot be prevented from appearing, no
> matter what setting you use, or how many times you close it.

Well, there is a workaround. Go to Settings --> General --> set "display 
connection center" to "hide".

Screeenshot attached.


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Re: 9.0.16.6 / IMAP and Connection Center

2020-02-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 10:25:41 AM, you wrote:

> I now took the tickmark off "periodical check" in my IMAP account so
> that it doesn't check, and it still checks and the Connection Center
> is shown always. The bug here is that it shouldn't check.

> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1887

Can confirm, bumped the BT report.




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Re: The Bat! 9.0.16 (Christmas Edition) MSI

2020-01-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Friday, January 10, 2020, 8:17:52 AM, you wrote:

> Hello MAU,

>> I can confirm that.

> I mean that I cannot uncheck 'Auto'.

I can confirm that's the case on my side. However, selecting "hide" 
option indeed makes Connection Center hidden, as expected.


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Re: Updated Mantis Bugtrackign software

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 9:47:01 PM, you wrote:

> Please let me know whether it works properly after the upgrade.

Seems to work fine. Responsive design works with different window
sizes (contrary to TheBat itself)*



* Tactfully alluring to support ticket #83885 that was quietly closed
by mr.Petrari few weeks ago.



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Re: 9.0.0.11

2019-10-19 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Sunday, October 20, 2019, 2:35:19 PM, you wrote:

>> All the skins are gone. The ribbon UI is gone.
>> The EXE is only 35 MB compared to the previous 55.

>> Is that an intentional step back from the ribbon 

> We will first release a version with toolbar functionality similar
> to what was in previous versions, but the new code (TB2K/SpTBX ->
> DevExpress) and after the release will take care of the ribbons.
> They need complete overhaul, not just mimic the main menu.

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but will this allow to implement 
#0001826 (https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1826) ?

DexExpress widgets seems to provide this functionality out of the box:
https://documentation.devexpress.com/WindowsForms/2492/Controls-and-Libraries/Ribbon-Bars-and-Menu/Ribbon/The-Ribbon-UI/Ribbon-Control

On the screenshot, imagine "New document 1" being a letter. There is 
enough of space to have another 4 right next to it.
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[Feature] Tabs support

2019-10-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Greetings,

As an avid Zimbra user (as well the TheBat user!), I wonder if anyone 
else is missing "tabs" in the interface?

Imagine fairly typical situation: you are working on several letters at the 
same 
time and need to quickly skim through something in the Inbox.

On *nix, one could use tiling WM and Claws to create nested layout.
Or just use Thunderbird. Zimbra offers tabs out of the box.
TheBat...  As far as I can tell, tabs are not supported.

Here is the ticket in Mantis, please feel free to upvote:
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1826


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Re: The Bat! support

2019-10-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Andrei,

Sunday, October 6, 2019, 5:28:17 PM, you wrote:

> Hello.

> Sorry for the off-topic but I wonder, if there's anyone who handles The
> Bat! Support requests at ritlabs.com/support?

> My TB (the release, not the beta) has stopped sending messages about a
> week ago, I opened high-prio issue and still has no help.

I am not an employee or otherwise affiliated with Ritlabs, but to the
best of my knowledge, normally it would be Alexander Petrari.

You might also ask here and/or reach-out to the Maxim Masiutin who happens 
to be the company owner and TheBat! developer.



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Automatically stretch columns in the message list

2019-10-01 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello,

Is there a way to make column(s) automatically fill the horizontal
space of the message list? Please see the screenshot attached.


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Re: icon size

2019-10-01 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello j,

Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 5:00:30 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Tbbeta,

>   In TheBat! ver8 for buttons I:

>   Right click the option bar
>   Select Customize... from the drop down
>   Select the Options tab
>   And select "Use menu icons for all toolbars"

Impressive! Did not know it existed... Also discovered "simple 
shortcut assignments".



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Re: screenshots of the upcoming The Bat! v9

2019-09-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, September 12, 2019, 1:12:13 PM, you wrote:

> You can see the screenshots at
> https://www.facebook.com/emailman/posts/10157552017414120

I think that in 2019 blocking subset of FB domains sounds like a
reasonable idea... After spending some minutes solving Google captchas
in Tor Browser, I don't have any particular feelings about the new
interface.

Hope that text under icons can be hidden and duplicated toolbars are 
bug, not a deliberate design choice (screenshot attached).

My main concern is this:

> "developers also mentioned that the PGP internal implementation will
> be removed"

For myself, functional PGP/GPG is absolutely crucial. If multitude of
present GPG-related bugs are not eventually fixed in v9, I would need
to either switch back to Claws or move to Thunderbird/Enigmail combo.
Both are free applications by the way.

This would be unfortunate as I have recently purchased TheBat! license 
and would like to continue using it.


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Re: 8.8.9.10

2019-08-28 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Miroslav,

Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 10:51:18 PM, you wrote:

> My Minimal Design Glyph is still fully supported at the moment.
> http://thebat.bplaced.net/minimal.html

Neat :) Thanks for sharing.



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Re: 8.8.9.10

2019-08-27 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello All,

> What's new in 8.8.9.10 since 8.8.9:
> ...

Additionally, it fixes https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1780
Unfortunately, it also introduces https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1807
...And https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1793 is still an issue.

Looking forward to v9!



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Re: Server change

2019-08-04 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Curt,

Sunday, August 4, 2019, 10:31:49 PM, you wrote:

> I  was off the air for about a week, have changed servers, and am just
> wondering whether I'm still alive here.

Pong.



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