Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-01 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 21:30:13, Vili wrote:

 If you manually invoke it, Ctrl+F2, individually with your
 accounts, one by one, can you find the problematic account?

I can't quite point it out, but it seems that one of my IMAP accounts is the
culprit.

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[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

The only imperfect thing in nature is the human race.
   -- Fowler's Note



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Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 19:13:32, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 There's no need at all for user applications to put their settings into
 something like the windows registry!
 Except that it is the way MS has designed Windows. :)

Maybe, but Microsoft has deprecheated the use of Registry quite a while ago.
They can't get rid of it though, since that would break everything that uses
it to store settings.

The preferred way now is to store settings in %APPDATA%\ProgramName in
whatever format the application wishes to use.

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[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

Those with the best advice offer no advice.
   -- Dave's Law of Advice



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Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 22:21:57, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Other operation systems put them into one single directory (instead of a
 single file) called /etc or whatever.

That isn't true - on *nix, /etc is used for system-wide settings only
(%ALLUSERPROFILE% and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE in Registry on Windows), while
per-user settings are stored in his home directory, in hidden files and
directories (eg. ~/.opera/, ~/.ssh/, ~/.gtkrc, ~/.bashrc, which corresponds
to %USERPROFILE% and %APPDATA% on Windows).

-- 
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[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

Do not nurse a kid who wears braces.
   -- Nursing Mother Principle



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Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 22:44:08, Michael Schneider wrote:

 The windows registry is slow, possibility that one single application
 smashes the whole thing is very high, it's hard to maintain.

Registry slow? Get RegMon from sysinternals, and look at the number of
transactions Registry handles per second - (I get an average of 870 on my
computer). Now imagine that all of these were instead querying normal files
on disk - your disk cache would be trashed, and all file access would slow
down considerably.

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[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

Murphy was an optimist...
   -- O'Toole's Commentary on Murphy's Laws



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Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, December 4, 2005, 7:40:43, Mark Partous wrote:

 These settings are loaded every time Windows is being started.

No, they aren't. Registry settings are read-in when the application first
needs them, and they stay cached for a while (registry works similarly to
disk cache, however it's independent from it AFAIK).

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[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
   -- Colson's Law



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-07 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 16:45:38, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00404808 in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location ffd5.

Registers:
eax=0001 ebx= ecx=007ee230 edx=0013e6e4 esi=01970921 edi=0013e6e4
eip=00404808 esp=0013e5d8 ebp=0013e7f0 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010206

Call stack:
00404808  thebat.exe:00404808
007FEBDF  thebat.exe:007FEBDF
007F0219  thebat.exe:007F0219
007F0005  thebat.exe:007F0005
007F1A19  thebat.exe:007F1A19
0080705E  thebat.exe:0080705E
0080465A  thebat.exe:0080465A
004553F2  thebat.exe:004553F2
7739C3B7  user32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  user32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739CA68  user32.dll:7739CA68  TranslateMessageEx
7739CE7A  user32.dll:7739CE7A  MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx
7C82EC9E  ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E  KiUserCallbackDispatcher
773AD01A  user32.dll:773AD01A  SendMessageA
007FBF64  thebat.exe:007FBF64
007FBFCE  thebat.exe:007FBFCE
007FB991  thebat.exe:007FB991
007FC066  thebat.exe:007FC066
007FC2FD  thebat.exe:007FC2FD
004553F2  thebat.exe:004553F2
7739C3B7  user32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  user32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  user32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  user32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  user32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  user32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  user32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  user32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  user32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  user32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  user32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  user32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00BEE5CB  thebat.exe:00BEE5CB
00BEE6E3  thebat.exe:00BEE6E3
00657D7C  thebat.exe:00657D7C
00BEE4B1  thebat.exe:00BEE4B1
00BEE3D9  thebat.exe:00BEE3D9
00BDE22A  thebat.exe:00BDE22A
00BDEDE3  thebat.exe:00BDEDE3
00C1B1B9  thebat.exe:00C1B1B9
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


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 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

You should have seen it when *I* got it.
   -- Bureaucratic Cop-Out #1



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature

2005-12-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, December 11, 2005, 3:11:46, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The new beta URL
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36309.rar

First run:

---
The Bat!
---
Invalid pointer operation.
---
OK   
---

10 seconds later:
---
The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x referenced memory at 0x. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location  Reading from 
location .

Registers:
eax=032dd8dc ebx=007ad974 ecx=0013efe0 edx=02f3bb88 esi=01a8067d edi=0013f10c
eip= esp=0013efc8 ebp=0013efe0 iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac po cy
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010297

Call stack:

007C6A28  thebat.exe:007C6A28
007C59DB  thebat.exe:007C59DB
007864EE  thebat.exe:007864EE
00454E06  thebat.exe:00454E06
7739C3B7  user32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  user32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  user32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  user32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  user32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  user32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  user32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  user32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  user32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  user32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  user32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  user32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C1089F  thebat.exe:00C1089F
00C109B7  thebat.exe:00C109B7
0063DE58  thebat.exe:0063DE58
00C10785  thebat.exe:00C10785
00C106AD  thebat.exe:00C106AD
00BDE61A  thebat.exe:00BDE61A
00BDF1D3  thebat.exe:00BDF1D3
00C1D9A5  thebat.exe:00C1D9A5
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent



Second run:

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 00057365. Read of address 00057365.
---
OK   
---

10 seconds later:
---
The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x007c58fc referenced memory at 0xe1b58c3c. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 007c58fc in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location e1b58c3c.

Registers:
eax=039b73e4 ebx=007c58cd ecx=e1b58c00 edx=139b esi= edi=0013effc
eip=007c58fc esp=0013f008 ebp=0013f058 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
007C58FC  thebat.exe:007C58FC
007864EE  thebat.exe:007864EE
00454E06  thebat.exe:00454E06
7739C3B7  user32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  user32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  user32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  user32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  user32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  user32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  user32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  user32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  user32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  user32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  user32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  user32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C1089F  thebat.exe:00C1089F
00C109B7  thebat.exe:00C109B7
0063DE58  thebat.exe:0063DE58
00C10785  thebat.exe:00C10785
00C106AD  thebat.exe:00C106AD
00BDE61A  thebat.exe:00BDE61A
00BDF1D3  thebat.exe:00BDF1D3
00C1D9A5  thebat.exe:00C1D9A5
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

One should always prefer the probable impossible to the improbable possible.
   -- Dictum



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 21:51:49, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from:

---
The Bat!
---
Invalid pointer operation.
---
OK   
---

---
The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x004048f1 referenced memory at 0x. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---

thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 004048f1 in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location .

Registers:
eax=01bb60a0 ebx= ecx= edx=0013e6dc esi= edi=0013e6dc
eip=004048f1 esp=0013e5d0 ebp=0013e7e8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
004048F1  thebat.exe:004048F1
0076D21B  thebat.exe:0076D21B
0075E745  thebat.exe:0075E745
0075E531  thebat.exe:0075E531
0075FF45  thebat.exe:0075FF45
0077573A  thebat.exe:0077573A
00772D2E  thebat.exe:00772D2E
00494CD2  thebat.exe:00494CD2
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739CA68  USER32.dll:7739CA68  TranslateMessageEx
7739CE7A  USER32.dll:7739CE7A  MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx
7C82EC9E  ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E  KiUserCallbackDispatcher
773AD01A  USER32.dll:773AD01A  SendMessageA
0076A554  thebat.exe:0076A554
0076A5BE  thebat.exe:0076A5BE
00769F81  thebat.exe:00769F81
0076A656  thebat.exe:0076A656
0076A8ED  thebat.exe:0076A8ED
00494CD2  thebat.exe:00494CD2
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00BFC717  thebat.exe:00BFC717
00BFC82F  thebat.exe:00BFC82F
0060CDFC  thebat.exe:0060CDFC
00BFC5FD  thebat.exe:00BFC5FD
00BFC525  thebat.exe:00BFC525
00B83844  thebat.exe:00B83844
00B8440B  thebat.exe:00B8440B
00C2FEA1  thebat.exe:00C2FEA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent



Are you planning to fix this at all?

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle.
   -- Vique's Law



 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 22:19:18, Roelof Otten wrote:

 They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one
 works.
 What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig)

A lot - 8 POP3 accounts (7 active), 2 IMAP accounts, no OTFE.

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
   -- Greenhaus's Summation



 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: The Bat! 3.63.14 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, December 17, 2005, 20:55:51, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.14 (Beta) is now available from:

---
thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x0080f8da referenced memory at 0x00fc. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080f8da in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location 00fc.

Registers:
eax=021f4e40 ebx=007f6510 ecx=0013efdc edx= esi=01ad068a edi=0013f108
eip=0080f8da esp=0013efc8 ebp=0013efdc iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac po cy
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010297

Call stack:
0080F8DA  thebat.exe:0080F8DA
0080E893  thebat.exe:0080E893
007B1F9A  thebat.exe:007B1F9A
00455B86  thebat.exe:00455B86
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C022EB  thebat.exe:00C022EB
00C02403  thebat.exe:00C02403
00659884  thebat.exe:00659884
00C021D1  thebat.exe:00C021D1
00C020F9  thebat.exe:00C020F9
00BF1EAC  thebat.exe:00BF1EAC
00BF2A73  thebat.exe:00BF2A73
00C31EA1  thebat.exe:00C31EA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

The meek shall inherit the earth, but NOT its mineral rights.
   -- Getty's Reminder



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Re: The Bat! Help File

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:43:38, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Your ideas about this help are very welcome.

This is what I found so far:

- macros
  . aside from having full list of macros, also split the list by categories
  . change the table spacing - first column should be narrower (since this
is HTML, you should try letting the rendering engine automatically size
the columns - just put line breaks at the longer macros [where you have
2 macros that do the same thing, eg. 'CAPITALFIRST=textbrorbr
UCFIRST=text'])
  . add some borders to the table

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

Never characterize the importance of a statement in advance.
   -- (Charles) Ross's Law



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 16:36:40, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:

---
The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e8ec in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location 003c.

Registers:
eax=021fb700 ebx=0080e8bd ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4
eip=0080e8ec esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
0080E8EC  thebat.exe:0080E8EC
007B20D2  thebat.exe:007B20D2
00455B86  thebat.exe:00455B86
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C02723  thebat.exe:00C02723
00C0283B  thebat.exe:00C0283B
00659884  thebat.exe:00659884
00C02609  thebat.exe:00C02609
00C02531  thebat.exe:00C02531
00BF22E4  thebat.exe:00BF22E4
00BF2EAB  thebat.exe:00BF2EAB
00C32EA1  thebat.exe:00C32EA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


How long has this been going on now?

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]

When things are going well, someone will inevitably experiment detrimentally.
   -- Boyle's Second Law



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:32:32, Marek Mikus wrote:

 when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't
 find more info about it.

Usually while I have TB sitting in background, though it seems to be
connected with checking mail in one of my IMAP accounts.

BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full
backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even
free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or
when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at
the time of problem).

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:37:34, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 First, try to remove the USER.DEF file.

Where is this file supposed to be?

 If it doesn't help, name the
 programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running.

I'm not using any plug-ins, and I have the following programs running
practically all the time:

- Opera 9.0tp1
- 40tude Dialog (currently 2.0.15.84/beta 38)
- FAR Manager (1.70 alpha6 build 2039)
- TightVNC Viewer 1.3dev7
- HydraIRC 0.3.151

Tray applications:
- UltraMon 2.5.22.0
- E-Mu PatchMix DSP 1.81.00
- kX Mixer 5.10.00.3538
- Genius Wireless Optical Pro Control Panel 7.06.00
- ASUS PC Probe
- PopFile 0.22.3
- WebWasher 3.4 build 57
- Proxomitron Naoko-4.3 (2002-6-9)
- DaemonTools 4.00HE
- VirtuaWin 2.xx (special build)
- nVidia tray
- UltraVNC server 1.0.0

My system is Windows 2003 Standard Server SP1 + all patches, 3GB ram.

I have 8 POP3 accounts (1 is set not to receive mail though) and 2 IMAP
accounts (both IMAP accounts are hosted on Courier IMAP v4 servers).

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 20:16:47, Paul Meathrel wrote:

 Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi
 (www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it
 helped us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been 
 reported by our users.

That looks like what Dialog is using.

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, December 20, 2005, 19:51:05, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

It hasn't crashed yet, but I already got an Invalid pointer operation,
Access violation at address 00C04287 in module 'thebat.exe'. Write of
address 9E83A3E8. and Access violation at address 0080E9D0 in module
'thebat.exe'. Read of address 003C.

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 12:28:29, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 It hasn't crashed yet, but I already got an Invalid pointer operation,
 Access violation at address 00C04287 in module 'thebat.exe'. Write of
 address 9E83A3E8. and Access violation at address 0080E9D0 in module
 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 003C.

It only took a bit longer:


thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e9d0 in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location 003c.

Registers:
eax=030bb000 ebx=0080e9a1 ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4
eip=0080e9d0 esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
0080E9D0  thebat.exe:0080E9D0
007B21AA  thebat.exe:007B21AA
00455C5E  thebat.exe:00455C5E
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C029BF  thebat.exe:00C029BF
00C02AD7  thebat.exe:00C02AD7
0065995C  thebat.exe:0065995C
00C028A5  thebat.exe:00C028A5
00C027CD  thebat.exe:00C027CD
00BF2580  thebat.exe:00BF2580
00BF3147  thebat.exe:00BF3147
00C32EA1  thebat.exe:00C32EA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent

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Re: Christmas Edition

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test
 it.

My pet crash seems to be gone, too :)

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Re: Christmas Edition

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:22:32, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote:
 Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test
 it.
 My pet crash seems to be gone, too :)

...or maybe not:

---
Application Error
---
Exception EAccessViolation in module ntdll.dll at 000396D0.

Access violation at address 7C8396D0 in module 'ntdll.dll'. Read of address 
0014.

---
OK   
---

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Re: Christmas Edition

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:35:29, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:22:32, Jernej Simončič wrote:
 On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote:
 Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test
 it.
 My pet crash seems to be gone, too :)
 ...or maybe not:

Definitely not gone, just takes a bit longer:

---
thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x007b9fe4 referenced memory at 0x0104. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 007b9fe4 in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location 0104.

Registers:
eax=0330b970 ebx= ecx=0220fe00 edx= esi=019a049c edi=0013ee70
eip=007b9fe4 esp=0013ed50 ebp=0013ed90 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
007B9FE4  thebat.exe:007B9FE4
007BA49D  thebat.exe:007BA49D
0077B65F  thebat.exe:0077B65F
004554CA  thebat.exe:004554CA
7739C3B7  user32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  user32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  user32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  user32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  user32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  user32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  user32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  user32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  user32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  user32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  user32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  user32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00BCDAE3  thebat.exe:00BCDAE3
00BCDBFB  thebat.exe:00BCDBFB
006313B0  thebat.exe:006313B0
00BCD9C9  thebat.exe:00BCD9C9
00BCD8F1  thebat.exe:00BCD8F1
00BBB7BE  thebat.exe:00BBB7BE
00BBC377  thebat.exe:00BBC377
00C24C89  thebat.exe:00C24C89
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


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Re: 3.64.01

2005-12-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 22:29:35, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Make sure you're not running it from a mapped or networked drive. That
 will kill an MSI.

Really? I never had any such problems...

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Re: Feature request for the next version

2005-12-23 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, December 23, 2005, 10:41:46, Vilius Šumskas wrote:

 No, no and no. Charset selection *never* was intended to be  
 user-defined option. It is plain wrong how nowadays email clients  
 handles this. Charset must be set by MUA automatically.

Not necessarily - sometimes you may want to send a message to somebody who
has old client (and you know that), that can't handle UTF8, but handles some
other encoding. What Dialog does, is let you specify the preferred order of
character sets to use - if there are no 8bit characters, it'll automatically
use US-ASCII, and if there are 8bit characters, it'll search down the list
of preferred charsets until it finds one that covers all characters you
used. Dialog's way of doing this has it's downsides, since you can't force a
charset for a single message.

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Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA

2006-01-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar

Running for about 20 minutes so far...

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Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA

2006-01-06 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 21:29:20, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
 The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar
 Running for about 20 minutes so far...

So far it crashed twice - when the computer woke up from hibernation and
when I connected to my computer remotely through Remote Desktop.

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Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA

2006-01-06 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, January 6, 2006, 12:24:31, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 21:29:20, Jernej Simončič wrote:
 On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
 The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar
 Running for about 20 minutes so far...
 So far it crashed twice - when the computer woke up from hibernation and
 when I connected to my computer remotely through Remote Desktop.

...and it crashed while I wasn't doing anything in particular - first a
message box with Access violation at address . Read of address
. appeared, and a few minutes later:

---
http://www.sterling.si/slov/mainpages/test_english/test_english.htm: thebat.exe 
- Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x004048ec referenced memory at 0xffd5. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 004048ec in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location ffd5.

Registers:
eax=0001 ebx= ecx=0075ee44 edx=0013e6dc esi=01af0663 edi=0013e6dc
eip=004048ec esp=0013e5d0 ebp=0013e7e8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010206

Call stack:
004048EC  thebat.exe:004048EC
0076FA7B  thebat.exe:0076FA7B
00760E2D  thebat.exe:00760E2D
00760C19  thebat.exe:00760C19
0076262D  thebat.exe:0076262D
00777F9A  thebat.exe:00777F9A
0077558E  thebat.exe:0077558E
0049512E  thebat.exe:0049512E
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739CA68  USER32.dll:7739CA68  TranslateMessageEx
7739CE7A  USER32.dll:7739CE7A  MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx
7C82EC9E  ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E  KiUserCallbackDispatcher
773AD01A  USER32.dll:773AD01A  SendMessageA
0076CD1C  thebat.exe:0076CD1C
0076CD86  thebat.exe:0076CD86
0076C749  thebat.exe:0076C749
0076CE2A  thebat.exe:0076CE2A
0076D0C1  thebat.exe:0076D0C1
0049512E  thebat.exe:0049512E
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C01433  thebat.exe:00C01433
00C0154B  thebat.exe:00C0154B
0060EF54  thebat.exe:0060EF54
00C01319  thebat.exe:00C01319
00C01241  thebat.exe:00C01241
00B88560  thebat.exe:00B88560
00B89127  thebat.exe:00B89127
00C34EA1  thebat.exe:00C34EA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


(btw, the address that appears in the titlebar of the message box was
something I clicked a few hours before the crash - but it wasn't the last
link I clicked, though it might have been the first one after restarting
TB).

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Re: Still Curious about DDHELP.exe

2006-01-08 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, January 8, 2006, 16:53:05, Robert D. wrote:

 IF this is so, then, at least, TB! should shut down ddhelp at exit of
 TB!

TB isn't the one that starts it, it's started automatically (probably by
your video card drivers).

 IF
 no other program is using it at the time of TB! shutdown

That's pretty much impossible to determine.

 Why does Win2000 and XP NOT need the GUI DLL's from ddhelp.exe and
 WinME does?

It probably depends on the drivers. (hint: do a text search for ddhelp.exe
inside thebat.exe - it'll come up empty).

 Maybe that's how to approach the issue  or . are they thinking
 that,  very soon, no one will be using Win98 and WinME??

That's very likely to happen either way - none of those systems are
supported by M$ anymore, and it's a real PITA writing software that still
works on anything older than Windows 2000.

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Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available

2006-01-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, January 12, 2006, 20:34:42, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36501.rar

This version is again crashing often enough to make it unusable.

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Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available

2006-01-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, January 14, 2006, 23:33:13, Paul Van Noord wrote:

 The Bat! 3.65.02 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36502.rar

Sorry, posted in the wrong thread - 3.65.02 is the one that's crashing a
lot.

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Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available

2006-01-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, January 15, 2006, 2:26:35, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 What about 3.65.01 - does it crash with the same frequency as 3.65.02, or 
 more, or less?

Less often - it's usable even though it crashes every now and then. 3.65.02
crashed after running for 5-10 minutes, while .01 runs for hours.

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Re: - Invalid Pointer Operation

2006-01-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, January 15, 2006, 20:38:42, Eddie Castelli wrote:

 Any confirmation? (see Sys Environment below)

No, but I got random Invalid pointer operations every now and then.

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Re: - Invalid Pointer Operation

2006-01-16 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, January 16, 2006, 5:57:18, Dean wrote:

 Just curious. I was using 3.65.2 when the invalid pointer issues started.
 I noticed they slowed down when I greatly diminished my IMAP capabilities. 
 Either of you using IMAP.

 As you can see, I went back to 3.65 msi  using all IMAP functions and no
 problems.  Don't know if there is any correlation.  

I've had these problems for a while, with various severity - 3.65 and
3.65.01 are pretty much usable, and crash usually only when I connect to my
computer remotely (Remote Desktop), and later when I again resume working
locally, while 3.65.02 and many versions before 3.65 crashed after running
for a few minutes (or even less).

I do have 2 IMAP accounts, and I'm pretty sure that the errors are related
to (at least) one of them.

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Re: The Bat! 3.65.03 is now available

2006-01-17 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, January 16, 2006, 16:29:02, 9Val wrote:

 It  is  the  same  .02  just  repackaged  to MSI and increased version
 number.

Weird, it crashed immediately on the first run (before even the splash
appeared), but I haven't had any problems since.

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Re: The Bat! 3.65.03 is now available

2006-01-17 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 10:49:17, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 Weird, it crashed immediately on the first run (before even the splash
 appeared), but I haven't had any problems since.

I take that back, it crashed.

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Re: 3.65.04

2006-01-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 21:16:37, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36504.rar

Again very unstable.

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Re: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available

2006-01-24 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, January 23, 2006, 19:53:00, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Looks like the IMAP crashing problem is fixed.

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Re: Authenicating StarTls

2006-01-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 21:40:46, Robert D. wrote:

 you actually posted your username and password to the list for
 everybody with a bit of knowledge to see
 really? Was that parts of this stuff ?

Yes, it was just that - 354 lines say Username: and Password:, and the
lines you sent are your username and password, all in Base64 encoding.

 OK ... I did Smtp Auth and Regular and, as before when I tried the
 same way, it fails to authenticate me as the correct user and then
 denies my sending ... OE works, as seen in the packets. Obviously I
 won't use OE anyway.

Strange, your log looks like TB doesn't attempt authentication at all -
here's how my log looks when TB authenticates on a server I run:

[22:19:04]  C: Connected to mail.ena.si, port 465
[22:19:04]  S: 220 konto.si ESMTP Drive defensivly. Buy a tank.
[22:19:04]  C: EHLO HACTAR
[22:19:04]  S: 250-konto.si
[22:19:04]  S: 250-PIPELINING
[22:19:04]  S: 250-SIZE 12582912
[22:19:04]  S: 250-VRFY
[22:19:04]  S: 250-ETRN
[22:19:04]  S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
[22:19:04]  S: 250-AUTH=CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
[22:19:04]  S: 250 8BITMIME
[22:19:04]  C: AUTH CRAM-MD5
[22:19:05]  S: 334 PDE0MzA3OTQ4NjAuMTQxNTA3NjlAa29udG8uc2k+
[22:19:05]  C: Q29uZ3JhdHVsYXRpb25zIVlvdSBkZWNyeXB0ZWQgdGhlIEJhc2U2NCB0ZXh0IW==
[22:19:05]  S: 235 Authentication successful
[22:19:05]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=673

Note that my server supports more authentication methods, and that TB uses
CRAM-MD5 authentication - maybe The Bat doesn't support LOGIN auth?

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Re: The Bat! 3.70.10 Qigong (Beta) is now available

2006-02-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 23:00:40, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.70.10 Qigong (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

I'm having a problem with the latest 3 beta versions, TB's icon is always
animated, as if I had unread messages even when I don't have any. It appears
that this is related to one of my IMAP accounts, which always shows X unread
messages (where X is the number of messages in the Inbox).

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Re: Unwanted periodic mail

2006-02-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, February 20, 2006, 21:38:25, Vili wrote:

 I realised, that I hear a cling in every 20 sec... I noticed, that
 one of my IMAP account's log has a note in every 20 sec, that it
 cannot connect to the server.

I had a ding every second while I was upgrading my IMAP server :)

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Re: TB and Open Office

2006-03-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, March 10, 2006, 12:52:22, Roelof Otten wrote:

   On the Ritlabs forum somebody is complaining about the inabilty to
   copy some cells from Open Office Calc to TB. As I don't use Open
   Office, I can't confirm that. Anybody?

Confirmed when pasting to HTML message. Works fine with plain text.

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Re: 64-bit

2006-04-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 14:36:24, Cees wrote:

   I'm  curious  if  this  behaviour  can  improve  in  a  true  64-bit  email
   application.

Is there a 64bit version of Delphi available?

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Re: 64-bit

2006-04-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 20:54:09, Neal Laugman wrote:

 Besides, I think RIT Labs has now migrated to C++. So if it
 were me, I'd be thinking C# and .NET 2.0 Framework. The Team version
 of Visual Studio 2005 has a 64-bit compiler and that's the only
 windows one I'm aware of.

If TB moves to .NET, I stop updating it immediately. There must be a reason
why even M$ doesn't use .NET for eg. Office.

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Re: 64-bit

2006-04-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 22:45:39, Cees wrote:

  I  never  assumed  that  it  should  be  easy merely that my hardware is
  64-bits  for  2,5  years  now,  and  that I'm dying to get a proper support,
  finally!  Blimey  I'm almost due for a major upgrade, something NEW and this
  last platform hasn't been tested thoroughly yet. :)

I've had a 64bit CPU for a year and a half (actually, I'm already on my
second Athlon64), but on the Windows side of things I'm sticking with 32bit,
simply because drivers for a certain piece of my hardware aren't available
in 64bit version.

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Re: Start TB Beta reminder

2006-04-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 9, 2006, 3:50:52, Robert D. wrote:

 It used to be I was reminded only the first time I ran a new Beta.

If you select Start-Shutdown while TB is running, you'll get the beta
reminder next time your start TB (if you haven't closed it normally
before).

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Re: The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available

2006-04-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, April 29, 2006, 20:18:37, Vili wrote:

 I believe it is linked to using other than normal fonts. With my
 notebook having a native resolution of 1600 x 1050, if I used normal
 Is it a 19 col wide screen laptop?

I'd say 16 at most. Some laptops have crazy resolution these days.

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Re: PGP 9 and TheBat

2006-04-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 30, 2006, 21:40:23, Vilius Šumskas wrote:

 As far as I understand, PGP 9 is proprietary code of pgp.com, so it
 depends on them to provide means of access to other software
 developers. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
 They have a public open SDK.

Doesn't matter - never trust a privacy enhancement program that doesn't have
it's source open.

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Re: Vista

2006-06-24 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, June 24, 2006, 16:30:30, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

   Is  there a version of The Bat! that will run on 64 bit Vista? Tried
   the Pro Version from the rit homepage and it is a no go.

That's a Vista problem then - it's a beta OS after all.

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Re: Still incomplete painting on launch

2006-06-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, June 29, 2006, 14:25:00, Mary Bull wrote:

 See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 .

This might be related to graphic drivers - have you tried updating to the
latest offered by your graphic card manufacturer?

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Re: Document Attachments

2006-07-16 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, July 16, 2006, 8:18:38, Dean wrote:

 Has anyone encountered problems when receiving email attachments from
 Microsoft Word?  I have sent myself an email from one of my other machines
 via Outlook. The attachment was a Word Document with Inserted Data.  When
 sent, the attachment had the correct name.doc  When I receive the email I
 get an attachment that reads winmail.dat. 

Change the format of your message from Rich Text to either HTML or Plain
Text, both of which will actually attach the document, and not embed it
inside winmail.dat (which can't be read by anything but Outlook - even OE
doesn't understand that).

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Re: 3.81.?? 1000 character limit in References header

2006-07-17 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, July 17, 2006, 1:06:21, Roelof Otten wrote:

   Over at tbot we're having a thread threading badly as TB truncates
   the References: header to a 1000 characters.

AFAIK, the length limit for headers is 992 bytes (that includes the header
name and contents), and when truncating the References header, it should be
done this way: always keep the first msgid, then delete from the 2nd one
onwards, until the header is short enough to fit in 992 bytes.

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Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation

2006-08-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, August 12, 2006, 17:01:18, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 No, I don't think so. I think the Voyager installation on the stick
 (it's OTFE) is related to the stick's serial number.

If it's the volume serial number, that can be easily changed through
software.

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Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation

2006-08-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, August 12, 2006, 17:29:38, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 If it is in the software of the stick, what you are suggesting is
 either a workaround or a crack, isn't it?

Volume serial number is stored in the boot sector, and it's usually written
when the disk is formatted. Given that USB pendrives are fairly unreliable
storage, I see nothing wrong in changing the volume ID to get around the
software lockdown. One of the many tools for changing it is available on the
sysinternals website: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/VolumeId.html

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Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation

2006-08-13 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, August 13, 2006, 15:30:34, Peter Meyns wrote:

 Thanks a lot Jernej! But before changing the volume ID, I'd like to
 know the existing one. Where can I find it? I tried and searched on
 Win XP and on Kanotix, but to no avail.

Just type VOL drive: in command prompt.

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Invalid HTML

2006-09-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
The attached (plaintext) message causes the Invalid HTML message to appear
in TB when using the Rich Text viewer.

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Revision: 6945
Author:   gonosztopi
Date: 2006-09-09 16:59:57 +0200 (Sat, 09 Sep 2006)

Log Message:
---
Making portuguese users happy - fix for #954.
Added ability to turn IPFilter on/off for clients/servers independently.

Modified Paths:
--
trunk/docs/Changelog
trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp
trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp
trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp
trunk/src/Preferences.cpp
trunk/src/Preferences.h
trunk/src/PrefsUnifiedDlg.cpp
trunk/src/TextClient.cpp
trunk/src/libs/ec/ECCodes.h
trunk/src/muuli.wdr
trunk/src/muuli_wdr.cpp
trunk/src/muuli_wdr.h
Modified: trunk/docs/Changelog
===
--- trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -22,6 +22,8 @@
* Got rid of a few more warnings.
* Fixed #929: configure: BUILD_CC uses CCs CFLAGS
* Implemented #962: don't display (0) when not downloading from 
source
+   * Fixed #954 - added ability turn IPFilter on/off for 
servers/clients
+ independently.
 
ken:
* Fixed control-clicking (right-clicking) on tabs in notebooks 
on the

Modified: trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -281,9 +281,12 @@
if (selection  EC_PREFS_SECURITY) {
CECEmptyTag secPrefs(EC_TAG_PREFS_SECURITY);
secPrefs.AddTag(CECTag(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES, 
thePrefs::CanSeeShares()));
-   if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
-   secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED));
+   if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) {
+   secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS));
}
+   if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) {
+   secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS));
+   }
if (thePrefs::IPFilterAutoLoad()) {

secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE));
}
@@ -487,7 +490,8 @@
if ((oneTag = 
thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES)) != NULL) {
thePrefs::SetCanSeeShares(oneTag-GetInt());
}
-   ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterOn, 
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED);
+   ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringClients, 
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS);
+   ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringServers, 
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS);
ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterAutoLoad, 
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE);
if ((oneTag = 
thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_UPDATE_URL)) != NULL) {
thePrefs::SetIPFilterURL(oneTag-GetStringData());

Modified: trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp  2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp  2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -1192,8 +1192,10 @@
case EC_OP_SET_PREFERENCES:
((CEC_Prefs_Packet *)request)-Apply();
theApp.glob_prefs-Save();
-   if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
+   if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) {
theApp.clientlist-FilterQueues();
+   }
+   if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) {
theApp.serverlist-FilterServers();
}
if (!thePrefs::GetNetworkED2K()  
theApp.IsConnectedED2K()) {

Modified: trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp  2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp  2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -391,7 +391,7 @@
 
 bool CIPFilter::IsFiltered(uint32 IPTest, bool isServer)
 {
-   if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
+   if ((thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()  !isServer) || 
(thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()  isServer)) {
wxMutexLocker lock(m_mutex);
 
// The IP needs to be in host order
@@ -464,8 +464,10 @@
std::swap(m_iplist, evt.m_result

Re: Invalid HTML

2006-09-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, September 9, 2006, 18:26:46, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Cannot confirm.

Hmm, weird, I could when the message came to the list, but now it displays
fine for me, too...

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Re: Memory Usage in Official Release - Mapi32 failure in Beta

2006-12-07 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, December 7, 2006, 16:42:01, Barry wrote:

 Interesting? Today at initial start was using 35 000 about 15 seconds after
 checking all the accounts (2 POP  2 IMAP) then dropped to 7 000 after 
 closing the connection centre. I then minimised TB! and it immediately 
 dropped to 2 000 and it remains pretty consistent thereafter. 7 000 
 maximised to 2 000 minimised.

I've said it a million times already: don't look at the Mem Usage column in
Task Manager because it's lying. That column shows how much of the program
is currently resident in the *physical memory*, which doesn't mean much,
especially since the Windows shell (Explorer) forces any program you
minimize out of physical memory (this is why you see memory usage drop
when you minimize programs). The only column in Task Manager which tells you
*something* about the program is VM Size, which tells you how much memory is
allocated in the program.

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Re: DEP

2006-12-16 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 10:51:43, Michal Kosinski wrote:

 Uhh, got all that (with Pentium D) and it's disabled.
 Can I turn it on somewhere?

Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance -
Data Execution Prevention. Note that not all programs are compatible with
DEP.

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Re: DEP

2006-12-16 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 11:33:08, Cees wrote:

  thought thebat! had a (similar) feature like that already?
  Try to execute an attached executable...it won't fire up.

DEP is something different, and I really don't see why RitLabs see it as
important enough to mention in the About box. DEP prevents buffer overflows
from being able to cause program code to execute, it has nothing to do with
executable files.

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Crash when closing TB and doing Windows shutdown at the same time

2007-01-20 Thread Jernej Simončič
If I close The Bat, then while it's Processing Folders window is still
open, do a Start - Shutdown - Shutdown/Reboot, I get a notification from
Windows that The Bat has crashed, then an AV or an error message from The
Bat, then another Windows message that TB has crashed.

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Re: More On TBB and TBI

2007-01-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, January 29, 2007, 17:21:16, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

 They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often
 enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. In
 either of those cases the files are kept in the mail folders.

The Bat doesn't leave .tmp files behind if you cancel folder compression,
otherwise I'd have to have a ton of them.

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Re: More On TBB and TBI

2007-01-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, January 29, 2007, 21:27:18, Peter Meyns wrote:

 They don't appear in a message folder. Have a look at C:\Documents and
 Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp - that's where they
 accumulate... :(

Nope, only a ton of old Office temporary files there.

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Re: Wish: common QTs

2007-01-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 1:21:03, Ron Secord wrote:

 A point that I found out the hard way when I deleted one of my
 accounts that had a bunch of QT's associated with it. I had this
 account for quite some time and completely forgot about the QT's until
 after I deleted it and the QT's in other accounts stopped working.

Here's another vote of support. I'm keeping one of my old accounts only
because of the multitude of QTs I've got in it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.96.01 (BETA) is now available

2007-01-31 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 16:48:34, 9Val wrote:

 This version supposed to be replacement for Christmas Edition so let's
 start enumerate show-stoppers.

I'm getting a reproducible crash on exit:

---
thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x0087bbde referenced memory at 0x025b2875. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---

---
Error
---
Runtime error 217 at 0041F971
---
OK   
---

---
Error
---
Runtime error 216 at 00457558
---
OK   
---

Everything else seems to work fine though.

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Re: The Bat! 3.96.01 (BETA) is now available

2007-01-31 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 22:28:56, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Since these days, I think of the dot as a terminator - meaning that
 all parts of your domain name are already present, nothing must be
 appended to it, and the next level is the DNS root.

That only applies to DNS zone files, which otherwise append your zone to the
domain name given.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, February 24, 2007, 21:24:11, Ian A. White wrote:

 I know it certainly is possible for spammers to use dictionary methods
 to get your e-mail address, however when you do not use dictionary
 words in your username, it points to someone harvesting them.

Tell that to spammers trying to send stuff to random completely made
up words on my mail server.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, February 25, 2007, 21:18:33, Ian A. White wrote:

 That is a little different in that there spammers are targeting a
 known domain. The spam (and I have received even more now) is not
 coming to my domain (where I restrict the usernames I will accept
 anyway), but to a slave address at my ISP account. What you are
 describing is attacks on domains that are configured to catch all.

No, I'm describing what I see in the greylist filter logs.

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

2007-03-03 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, March 3, 2007, 21:33:48, Rick Grunwald wrote:

 Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to
 research who and where. Nothing that could or should be enforced
 If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been
 updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a
 significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite)

Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :)

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Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer

2007-03-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
The subject says it all - when rich text viewer is active, Ctrl+Ins
doesn't copy selected text to the clipboard. This doesn't happen with
plain text viewer.

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Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer

2007-03-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 0:28:48, Marek Mikus wrote:

 I have such problem in other apps, I am using Ctrl+C and it works allways.

I know that Ctrl+C works, but Ctrl+Ins is much easier to press for me.

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Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer

2007-03-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 1:51:06, Roelof Otten wrote:

 I'm using the RTV and Ctrl-Ins just works fine, both from the body as
 from the header. Tried it in the preview pane and in the folder view
 window.

It doesn't work from the preview pane for me (but it does when the
message is open in a separate window).

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Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer

2007-03-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 5:57:06, Ian A. White wrote:

 Ctrl+C for Copy (because of the C for copy)
 Ctrl+X for Cut (because the X looks a bit like scissors if you squint)
 Ctrl+V for Paste (because the V looks like an arrow pointing to where
 I want the items placed)

I've been using Windows for 13 years, and couldn't get myself used to
these keys (and I only used DOS programs that only supported Ctrl+Ins
 co. for about 3 years before that).

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Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer

2007-03-13 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 13:21:54, Paul Van Noord wrote:

 I'll second that, plus it is uniform across most programs.

The classic shortcuts (Ctrl+Ins, Shift+Del, Shift+Ins) work pretty
much everywhere, and there's a few cases when they work even when the
new ones don't.

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Re: 3.98.06

2007-03-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 17:38:31, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39806.rar

Ctrl+Ins seems to work in RTV now :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.98.14

2007-04-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 12:11:30, Mike wrote:

 Faulting  application  thebat.exe,  version 3.98.14.0, faulting module
 ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00011e58.

Sounds like RAM problem - I'd run a memory test if I were you.

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Re: 3.98.15: No Disk error

2007-04-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, April 19, 2007, 17:30:51, MAU wrote:

 As you can see, the error doesn't say it is a TB error, it says
 'Windows'. But the 'Processing message...' text leads me to think (and
 believe) it is TB.

This looks like an error from Adobe Reader when you open a PDF from
CD-ROM and eject the CD afterwards.

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Re: Links with Accents

2007-04-24 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 16:20:10, Vili wrote:

 what should be the end character for a link? Space? If we agree, Maxim
 can implement it in a minute, I guess. What RFC says?

Space should always terminate the link - but it shouldn't be the only
character that does it, depending on what's in front of the link. Take
a look at the following examples:

foo http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de) bar http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de) baz
^  ^
foo (http://čšž.ena.si/) bar [http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de)] baz
 ^^   ^

The ^'s mark parts of the URLs that should be clickable. Even
something like (http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de)) shouldn't be too hard to
get right, even if it could cause a few problems when the user
actually forgot a space after the closing parenthesis (I tested these
examples in my newsreader [Dialog], and it does the right thing, so I
see no reason why The Bat couldn't).

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Re: Links with Accents

2007-04-24 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 17:49:40, Vili wrote:

 Is it a good method?

I'd actually write the rule like this:
- space always terminates the link
- if the first character before URI is ,{,[,( then ,},],) followed
  by any non-alphanumeric or _ terminates the link (don't bother
  counting braces inside the link, just have any closing brace
  followed by space/punctuation mark the end).

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Re: Links with Accents

2007-04-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 18:12:51, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 - if the first character before URI is ,{,[,( then ,},],) followed
   by any non-alphanumeric or _ terminates the link (don't bother
   counting braces inside the link, just have any closing brace
   followed by space/punctuation mark the end).

Oh, I forgot: closing brace followed by % should not terminate the
URL.

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%WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME reporting Windows 2003 on XP64

2007-04-26 Thread Jernej Simončič
The macro %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME returns Windows 2003 when used on
Windows XP X64 Edition (which I'm using).

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Re: unable to install the Home version

2007-05-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, May 5, 2007, 13:36:53, Vili wrote:

 Unable to open install package.
 Verify if the package exists and you have right to access it, or
 contact the owner of the package to check if the package is a valid
 Windows Installer install package.

The wonders of Windows Installer technology - try downloading the Home
MSI again, and run it. If you're lucky, you'll get the uninstall
option immediately, otherwise you'll have to install it again, and
then uninstall.

If that still doesn't work, download the Windows Installer CleanUp
from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301, use it to remove TB,
then delete C:\Program Files\The Bat! manually (yes, Windows Installer
screws up like this so often that Microsoft is offering a cleanup
utility for it).

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Re: F4 quoting in a reply

2007-05-07 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, May 6, 2007, 23:52:13, Roelof Otten wrote:

 The reason that I didn't notice this behaviour was that I don't use F4
 for answering without quotes. (Can't remember when I answered without
 quotes for the last time, if I ever did.)

To tell the truth, I prefer the new behaviour - got spoiled by my news
client that replies by quoting everything when nothing is selected,
and with selected text only with the same keypress.

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Re: unable to install the Home version

2007-05-07 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, May 5, 2007, 22:05:37, Vili wrote:

 Thanks... Dont tell me MSI is cutting edge :))

When was the last time Microsoft released a non-beta product? :)

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Re: F4 quoting in a reply

2007-05-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, May 7, 2007, 18:51:42, Richard Wakeford wrote:

 Then how do you reply to a particular person or folder for whom you have
 specific reply quick templates but don't want to quote any of the
 message at any particular time, because F4 is meant to do just that?

I haven't felt the need for that yet; I have several folder templates,
but they don't differ between New message and Reply (except for the
not including attribution line and quotes for the New message of
course; practically all of my templates are actually just a collection
of quick templates, so I have just one place to edit).

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Header pane drifting

2007-05-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
In very long threads, my header pane starts pretty uselessly drifting
to the left (Image1.png), instead of staying put (Image2.png). This is
fairly annoying, as the view doesn't change back when going to another
thread, making it impossible to see what you're actually looking at.

Also, is there a setting that would keep the columns fixed? I don't
want them to automatically adjust to the depth of the thread - I'd
much rather see that too deep nodes would start at the left side
again, with differently coloured treelines (eg. similarly to how
Dialog newsreader does it - Dialog.png)

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A successful symposium depends on the ratio of meeting to eating.
   -- Zusmann's Rule

[The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]
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Re: Wish: Optional hiding connection centre for imap-connections

2007-05-23 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:54:54, Neal Laugman wrote:

 For me, it would be a nice feature to have the possibility of
 hiding the connection centre for just imap-connections.
 I want this too.
 Me three :)

Here's another vote :)

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 Jernej Simončič  http://deepthought.ena.si/ 

[The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

The territory behind rhetoric is too often mined with equivocation.
   -- Dunne's Law



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Re: VCF file association to TB!

2007-08-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, August 18, 2007, 14:45:03, Eddie Castelli wrote:

 Today, when rebooting TB!, I got this window coming up - for the first
 time ever. The window filled the whole screen. I found it a bit
 strange! Any idea what this is?

Looks like something went wrong with window size calculation -
normally the dialog box would be fairly small and centred on screen.

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[The Bat! v3.99.14 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one takes him.
   -- Kelly's Law



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Re: The Bat! 3.99.14 BETA

2007-08-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, August 19, 2007, 22:53:33, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 But we didn't change anything in this area.

Isn't it the best when problems resolve themselves automatically? :)

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[The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance.
   -- Peter's Placebo



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Re: Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks

2007-08-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, August 20, 2007, 0:09:14, Marek Mikus wrote:

I have asterisks in my W2K, see enclosed picture.
 Sorry, I've ment to test in the next beta which didn't yet came out.
 OTFE passw dialog has bullets here under WinXP.

AFAIK, asterisks were standard characters using for hiding the
password until (including) Windows 2000. Only Windows XP and newer use
bullets.

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[The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

Everything goes wrong all at once.
   -- Murphy's Restatement



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Re: Scheduler transparency beta/18

2007-08-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 2:43:10, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote:

 Maybe it's an Win2000 issue?

Looks like you're running out of GDI resources, which prevents TB from
painting the column headers.

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[The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

History doesn't repeat itself -- historians merely repeat each other.
   -- First Rule of History



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Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 20:19:40, Indie_Dev wrote:

 3) In threaded view, why is there no option (not even in the
 right-click menu) to expand or collapse a thread? I have discussion
 threads going back several months. If someone replies, I have to troll
 through many - many - many - many trees (of the same thread due to
 discussion branching) to get to the current 'unread' message or a
 particular message that I'm looking for. Sure if you're looking for
 unread messages, you can use the 'Unread' view to see a new incoming
 message, but thats not the point.

The treeview behaves similar as the standard Windows treeviews -
pressing * will expand all threads, and pressing Ctrl++ will expand
current thread. You can also use spacebar to jump to the next unread
message (after paging through current message), which is another
function common to many mail and newsreaders. Alternatively, you can
use Ctrl+] to jump straight to the next unread message.

The right-click menu in headers pane is already pretty cluttered, and
I don't think adding even more options to it would improve it
(besides, I have yet to see a treeview which has these options in a
menu).

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[The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

To err is human -- to blame it on someone else is even more human.
   -- Jacob' Law



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Re: Resource Leak

2007-08-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 16:37:57, Goncalo Farias wrote:

 I got the attached message.

Hint: next time, press Ctrl+C (you'll hear a beep), and simply paste
the text of the message.

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[The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

If an experiment works, something has gone wrong.
   -- Finagle's First Law



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Re: Resource Leak

2007-08-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:59:27, Goncalo Farias wrote:

 I meant attached screenshot (and not really a email msg).

I know, and I wanted to point out there's no need to send screenshots
of standard dialog boxes, as they can be copied as text (this is a
Windows function).

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[The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

Always remember to pillage before you burn.
   -- Attila's Instruction



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The Bat freezes while processing folders

2007-08-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
I've noticed in the past few days that The Bat seems to freeze when I
try to close it, and it starts processing folders. This doesn't happen
if I use Folder maintenance, nor does it happen when TB is shut down
when I shut down Windows.

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Whichever carousel you stand near, your baggage will arrive on another one.
   -- Basic Baggage Principle

[The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 
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Re: The Bat freezes while processing folders

2007-08-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, August 30, 2007, 20:48:49, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Do you have IMAP account(s)?

Yes, one.

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When opportunity knocks, you've got headphones on.
   -- Law of Teenage Opportunity



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Re: The Bat freezes while processing folders

2007-08-31 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, August 31, 2007, 8:41:19, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Could you please narrow this issue by removing the IMAP account and
 testing The Bat! without it? I suspect that this is IMAP-enabled.

Unfortunately I can't reproduce the issue anymore - it hasn't frozen
neither yesterday, nor when I exited TB earlier today.

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[The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 
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You can't fall off the floor.
   -- Paul's Law (of Drinking)



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Re: test creating @thebat.net

2007-10-06 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, October 6, 2007, 22:39:37, Thomas Martin wrote:

 I got 'Access denied' in all three cases,seems i don't remember my passowrd
 well.

I tried the Forgot password link, we'll see if it's delivered
(hopefully I registered with an address that's still valid).

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Power attracts people but it cannot hold them.
   -- Law of Attraction



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Re: test creating @thebat.net

2007-10-06 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, October 6, 2007, 23:06:24, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 I tried the Forgot password link, we'll see if it's delivered
 (hopefully I registered with an address that's still valid).

I successfully reset my password, however I can't log in through
https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php. I can browse the site
from the point where I changed the password, however every page gives
me Authorization error / Access denied, even though the header shows
my username and name (and a Logout button).

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[The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 
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Opportunity always knocks at the least opportune moment.
   -- Ducharme's Precept



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Re: Bat for Mac or MacBat

2007-12-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:36:10, Tim Casten wrote:

 Will the Bat run on this machine without using dualboot and
 installing xp on it. Kinda defeats the purpose of buying a Mac. 

The only way you could do that would be with something like VMWare
Fusion.

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[The Bat! v3.99.27 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 
2]

Social innovations tend to the level of minimum tolerable well being.
   -- Albrecht's Law



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Re: Bat for Mac or MacBat

2007-12-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 19:35:18, Vilius Šumskas wrote:

 I'd recommend Parallels.

I've seen both in action, and VMWare Fusion easily justifies it's
higher price.

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[The Bat! v3.99.27 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 
2]

In specifications, Murphy's Law supersedes Ohm's.
   -- Klipstein's Law of Specifications



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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, December 22, 2007, 21:14:45, MAU wrote:

  Headers and free space in windows have nice gradient background;
 'Nice' is just an opinion. Some of us think it is 'ugly'.

I don't mind gradient backgrounds, as long as they don't clash with my
colour scheme. Unfortunately, the current ones do, badly.

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[The Bat! v4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
   -- Advanced Systems News Letter



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Re: Secure wish

2008-01-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, January 5, 2008, 15:21:59, Gunivortus Goos wrote:

 Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript,
 that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived
 and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password
 and then gives the content of the mail free?

This is impossible to do. What you want would require JavaScript
support, but even e-mail programs that use HTML engines with
JavaScript support do not execute scripts in e-mail messages anymore,
since they're a security risk.

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[The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 
5.2.3790.Service Pack 2]

The less work an organization produces, the more frequently it reorganizes.
   -- Organizational Law



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