Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 21:30:13, Vili wrote: If you manually invoke it, Ctrl+F2, individually with your accounts, one by one, can you find the problematic account? I can't quite point it out, but it seems that one of my IMAP accounts is the culprit. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The only imperfect thing in nature is the human race. -- Fowler's Note Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spec...
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 19:13:32, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: There's no need at all for user applications to put their settings into something like the windows registry! Except that it is the way MS has designed Windows. :) Maybe, but Microsoft has deprecheated the use of Registry quite a while ago. They can't get rid of it though, since that would break everything that uses it to store settings. The preferred way now is to store settings in %APPDATA%\ProgramName in whatever format the application wishes to use. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Those with the best advice offer no advice. -- Dave's Law of Advice Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spec...
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 22:21:57, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Other operation systems put them into one single directory (instead of a single file) called /etc or whatever. That isn't true - on *nix, /etc is used for system-wide settings only (%ALLUSERPROFILE% and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE in Registry on Windows), while per-user settings are stored in his home directory, in hidden files and directories (eg. ~/.opera/, ~/.ssh/, ~/.gtkrc, ~/.bashrc, which corresponds to %USERPROFILE% and %APPDATA% on Windows). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Do not nurse a kid who wears braces. -- Nursing Mother Principle Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spec...
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 22:44:08, Michael Schneider wrote: The windows registry is slow, possibility that one single application smashes the whole thing is very high, it's hard to maintain. Registry slow? Get RegMon from sysinternals, and look at the number of transactions Registry handles per second - (I get an average of 870 on my computer). Now imagine that all of these were instead querying normal files on disk - your disk cache would be trashed, and all file access would slow down considerably. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Murphy was an optimist... -- O'Toole's Commentary on Murphy's Laws Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spec...
On Sunday, December 4, 2005, 7:40:43, Mark Partous wrote: These settings are loaded every time Windows is being started. No, they aren't. Registry settings are read-in when the application first needs them, and they stay cached for a while (registry works similarly to disk cache, however it's independent from it AFAIK). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. -- Colson's Law Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 16:45:38, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00404808 in module thebat.exe Reading from location ffd5. Registers: eax=0001 ebx= ecx=007ee230 edx=0013e6e4 esi=01970921 edi=0013e6e4 eip=00404808 esp=0013e5d8 ebp=0013e7f0 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010206 Call stack: 00404808 thebat.exe:00404808 007FEBDF thebat.exe:007FEBDF 007F0219 thebat.exe:007F0219 007F0005 thebat.exe:007F0005 007F1A19 thebat.exe:007F1A19 0080705E thebat.exe:0080705E 0080465A thebat.exe:0080465A 004553F2 thebat.exe:004553F2 7739C3B7 user32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 user32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739CA68 user32.dll:7739CA68 TranslateMessageEx 7739CE7A user32.dll:7739CE7A MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx 7C82EC9E ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E KiUserCallbackDispatcher 773AD01A user32.dll:773AD01A SendMessageA 007FBF64 thebat.exe:007FBF64 007FBFCE thebat.exe:007FBFCE 007FB991 thebat.exe:007FB991 007FC066 thebat.exe:007FC066 007FC2FD thebat.exe:007FC2FD 004553F2 thebat.exe:004553F2 7739C3B7 user32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 user32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C user32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 user32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D user32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 user32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 user32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 user32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 user32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 user32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B user32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 user32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00BEE5CB thebat.exe:00BEE5CB 00BEE6E3 thebat.exe:00BEE6E3 00657D7C thebat.exe:00657D7C 00BEE4B1 thebat.exe:00BEE4B1 00BEE3D9 thebat.exe:00BEE3D9 00BDE22A thebat.exe:00BDE22A 00BDEDE3 thebat.exe:00BDEDE3 00C1B1B9 thebat.exe:00C1B1B9 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] You should have seen it when *I* got it. -- Bureaucratic Cop-Out #1 Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature
On Sunday, December 11, 2005, 3:11:46, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The new beta URL http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36309.rar First run: --- The Bat! --- Invalid pointer operation. --- OK --- 10 seconds later: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x referenced memory at 0x. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location Reading from location . Registers: eax=032dd8dc ebx=007ad974 ecx=0013efe0 edx=02f3bb88 esi=01a8067d edi=0013f10c eip= esp=0013efc8 ebp=0013efe0 iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac po cy cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010297 Call stack: 007C6A28 thebat.exe:007C6A28 007C59DB thebat.exe:007C59DB 007864EE thebat.exe:007864EE 00454E06 thebat.exe:00454E06 7739C3B7 user32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 user32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C user32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 user32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D user32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 user32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 user32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 user32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 user32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 user32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B user32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 user32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C1089F thebat.exe:00C1089F 00C109B7 thebat.exe:00C109B7 0063DE58 thebat.exe:0063DE58 00C10785 thebat.exe:00C10785 00C106AD thebat.exe:00C106AD 00BDE61A thebat.exe:00BDE61A 00BDF1D3 thebat.exe:00BDF1D3 00C1D9A5 thebat.exe:00C1D9A5 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent Second run: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00057365. Read of address 00057365. --- OK --- 10 seconds later: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x007c58fc referenced memory at 0xe1b58c3c. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 007c58fc in module thebat.exe Reading from location e1b58c3c. Registers: eax=039b73e4 ebx=007c58cd ecx=e1b58c00 edx=139b esi= edi=0013effc eip=007c58fc esp=0013f008 ebp=0013f058 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 007C58FC thebat.exe:007C58FC 007864EE thebat.exe:007864EE 00454E06 thebat.exe:00454E06 7739C3B7 user32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 user32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C user32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 user32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D user32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 user32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 user32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 user32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 user32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 user32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B user32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 user32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C1089F thebat.exe:00C1089F 00C109B7 thebat.exe:00C109B7 0063DE58 thebat.exe:0063DE58 00C10785 thebat.exe:00C10785 00C106AD thebat.exe:00C106AD 00BDE61A thebat.exe:00BDE61A 00BDF1D3 thebat.exe:00BDF1D3 00C1D9A5 thebat.exe:00C1D9A5 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] One should always prefer the probable impossible to the improbable possible. -- Dictum Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 21:51:49, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat! --- Invalid pointer operation. --- OK --- --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x004048f1 referenced memory at 0x. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 004048f1 in module thebat.exe Reading from location . Registers: eax=01bb60a0 ebx= ecx= edx=0013e6dc esi= edi=0013e6dc eip=004048f1 esp=0013e5d0 ebp=0013e7e8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 004048F1 thebat.exe:004048F1 0076D21B thebat.exe:0076D21B 0075E745 thebat.exe:0075E745 0075E531 thebat.exe:0075E531 0075FF45 thebat.exe:0075FF45 0077573A thebat.exe:0077573A 00772D2E thebat.exe:00772D2E 00494CD2 thebat.exe:00494CD2 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739CA68 USER32.dll:7739CA68 TranslateMessageEx 7739CE7A USER32.dll:7739CE7A MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx 7C82EC9E ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E KiUserCallbackDispatcher 773AD01A USER32.dll:773AD01A SendMessageA 0076A554 thebat.exe:0076A554 0076A5BE thebat.exe:0076A5BE 00769F81 thebat.exe:00769F81 0076A656 thebat.exe:0076A656 0076A8ED thebat.exe:0076A8ED 00494CD2 thebat.exe:00494CD2 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00BFC717 thebat.exe:00BFC717 00BFC82F thebat.exe:00BFC82F 0060CDFC thebat.exe:0060CDFC 00BFC5FD thebat.exe:00BFC5FD 00BFC525 thebat.exe:00BFC525 00B83844 thebat.exe:00B83844 00B8440B thebat.exe:00B8440B 00C2FEA1 thebat.exe:00C2FEA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent Are you planning to fix this at all? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. -- Vique's Law Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 22:19:18, Roelof Otten wrote: They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one works. What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) A lot - 8 POP3 accounts (7 active), 2 IMAP accounts, no OTFE. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. -- Greenhaus's Summation Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.14 (Beta) is now available
On Saturday, December 17, 2005, 20:55:51, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.14 (Beta) is now available from: --- thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0080f8da referenced memory at 0x00fc. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080f8da in module thebat.exe Reading from location 00fc. Registers: eax=021f4e40 ebx=007f6510 ecx=0013efdc edx= esi=01ad068a edi=0013f108 eip=0080f8da esp=0013efc8 ebp=0013efdc iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac po cy cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010297 Call stack: 0080F8DA thebat.exe:0080F8DA 0080E893 thebat.exe:0080E893 007B1F9A thebat.exe:007B1F9A 00455B86 thebat.exe:00455B86 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C022EB thebat.exe:00C022EB 00C02403 thebat.exe:00C02403 00659884 thebat.exe:00659884 00C021D1 thebat.exe:00C021D1 00C020F9 thebat.exe:00C020F9 00BF1EAC thebat.exe:00BF1EAC 00BF2A73 thebat.exe:00BF2A73 00C31EA1 thebat.exe:00C31EA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The meek shall inherit the earth, but NOT its mineral rights. -- Getty's Reminder Current beta is 3.63.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:43:38, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Your ideas about this help are very welcome. This is what I found so far: - macros . aside from having full list of macros, also split the list by categories . change the table spacing - first column should be narrower (since this is HTML, you should try letting the rendering engine automatically size the columns - just put line breaks at the longer macros [where you have 2 macros that do the same thing, eg. 'CAPITALFIRST=textbrorbr UCFIRST=text']) . add some borders to the table -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Never characterize the importance of a statement in advance. -- (Charles) Ross's Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 16:36:40, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e8ec in module thebat.exe Reading from location 003c. Registers: eax=021fb700 ebx=0080e8bd ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4 eip=0080e8ec esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 0080E8EC thebat.exe:0080E8EC 007B20D2 thebat.exe:007B20D2 00455B86 thebat.exe:00455B86 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C02723 thebat.exe:00C02723 00C0283B thebat.exe:00C0283B 00659884 thebat.exe:00659884 00C02609 thebat.exe:00C02609 00C02531 thebat.exe:00C02531 00BF22E4 thebat.exe:00BF22E4 00BF2EAB thebat.exe:00BF2EAB 00C32EA1 thebat.exe:00C32EA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent How long has this been going on now? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When things are going well, someone will inevitably experiment detrimentally. -- Boyle's Second Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:32:32, Marek Mikus wrote: when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't find more info about it. Usually while I have TB sitting in background, though it seems to be connected with checking mail in one of my IMAP accounts. BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at the time of problem). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] There's no such thing as a large whiskey. -- Rev. Mahaffy's Observation Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:37:34, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: First, try to remove the USER.DEF file. Where is this file supposed to be? If it doesn't help, name the programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running. I'm not using any plug-ins, and I have the following programs running practically all the time: - Opera 9.0tp1 - 40tude Dialog (currently 2.0.15.84/beta 38) - FAR Manager (1.70 alpha6 build 2039) - TightVNC Viewer 1.3dev7 - HydraIRC 0.3.151 Tray applications: - UltraMon 2.5.22.0 - E-Mu PatchMix DSP 1.81.00 - kX Mixer 5.10.00.3538 - Genius Wireless Optical Pro Control Panel 7.06.00 - ASUS PC Probe - PopFile 0.22.3 - WebWasher 3.4 build 57 - Proxomitron Naoko-4.3 (2002-6-9) - DaemonTools 4.00HE - VirtuaWin 2.xx (special build) - nVidia tray - UltraVNC server 1.0.0 My system is Windows 2003 Standard Server SP1 + all patches, 3GB ram. I have 8 POP3 accounts (1 is set not to receive mail though) and 2 IMAP accounts (both IMAP accounts are hosted on Courier IMAP v4 servers). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] All people are cremated equal. -- Beauregard's Second Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 20:16:47, Paul Meathrel wrote: Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi (www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it helped us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been reported by our users. That looks like what Dialog is using. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave's Rule of Street Survival Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available
On Tuesday, December 20, 2005, 19:51:05, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ It hasn't crashed yet, but I already got an Invalid pointer operation, Access violation at address 00C04287 in module 'thebat.exe'. Write of address 9E83A3E8. and Access violation at address 0080E9D0 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 003C. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.63.16 (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Opportunity always knocks at the least appropriate moment. -- Law of Adult Opportunity Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.16 (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 12:28:29, Jernej Simončič wrote: It hasn't crashed yet, but I already got an Invalid pointer operation, Access violation at address 00C04287 in module 'thebat.exe'. Write of address 9E83A3E8. and Access violation at address 0080E9D0 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 003C. It only took a bit longer: thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e9d0 in module thebat.exe Reading from location 003c. Registers: eax=030bb000 ebx=0080e9a1 ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4 eip=0080e9d0 esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 0080E9D0 thebat.exe:0080E9D0 007B21AA thebat.exe:007B21AA 00455C5E thebat.exe:00455C5E 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C029BF thebat.exe:00C029BF 00C02AD7 thebat.exe:00C02AD7 0065995C thebat.exe:0065995C 00C028A5 thebat.exe:00C028A5 00C027CD thebat.exe:00C027CD 00BF2580 thebat.exe:00BF2580 00BF3147 thebat.exe:00BF3147 00C32EA1 thebat.exe:00C32EA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Large numbers of things are determined, and therefore not subject to change. -- Levy's First Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test it. My pet crash seems to be gone, too :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The fact that you do not know the answer does not mean that someone else does. -- Stein's Maxim Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:22:32, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test it. My pet crash seems to be gone, too :) ...or maybe not: --- Application Error --- Exception EAccessViolation in module ntdll.dll at 000396D0. Access violation at address 7C8396D0 in module 'ntdll.dll'. Read of address 0014. --- OK --- -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When one is trying to be elegant and sophisticated, one won't. -- Hartig's Sleeve in the Cup, Thumb in the Butter Law Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:35:29, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:22:32, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:03:34, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test it. My pet crash seems to be gone, too :) ...or maybe not: Definitely not gone, just takes a bit longer: --- thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x007b9fe4 referenced memory at 0x0104. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 007b9fe4 in module thebat.exe Reading from location 0104. Registers: eax=0330b970 ebx= ecx=0220fe00 edx= esi=019a049c edi=0013ee70 eip=007b9fe4 esp=0013ed50 ebp=0013ed90 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 007B9FE4 thebat.exe:007B9FE4 007BA49D thebat.exe:007BA49D 0077B65F thebat.exe:0077B65F 004554CA thebat.exe:004554CA 7739C3B7 user32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 user32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C user32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 user32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D user32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 user32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 user32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 user32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 user32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 user32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B user32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 user32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00BCDAE3 thebat.exe:00BCDAE3 00BCDBFB thebat.exe:00BCDBFB 006313B0 thebat.exe:006313B0 00BCD9C9 thebat.exe:00BCD9C9 00BCD8F1 thebat.exe:00BCD8F1 00BBB7BE thebat.exe:00BBB7BE 00BBC377 thebat.exe:00BBC377 00C24C89 thebat.exe:00C24C89 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If it says one size fits all, it doesn't fit anyone. -- Julian's Law Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.64.01
On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 22:29:35, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Make sure you're not running it from a mapped or networked drive. That will kill an MSI. Really? I never had any such problems... -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow. -- Patton's Law Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature request for the next version
On Friday, December 23, 2005, 10:41:46, Vilius Šumskas wrote: No, no and no. Charset selection *never* was intended to be user-defined option. It is plain wrong how nowadays email clients handles this. Charset must be set by MUA automatically. Not necessarily - sometimes you may want to send a message to somebody who has old client (and you know that), that can't handle UTF8, but handles some other encoding. What Dialog does, is let you specify the preferred order of character sets to use - if there are no 8bit characters, it'll automatically use US-ASCII, and if there are 8bit characters, it'll search down the list of preferred charsets until it finds one that covers all characters you used. Dialog's way of doing this has it's downsides, since you can't force a charset for a single message. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Berra's Law Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA
On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar Running for about 20 minutes so far... -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If it works, don't fix it. -- First Rule of Rural Mechanics Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA
On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 21:29:20, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar Running for about 20 minutes so far... So far it crashed twice - when the computer woke up from hibernation and when I connected to my computer remotely through Remote Desktop. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] There is no traffic until you start to back out of your driveway. -- First Law of Driving Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA
On Friday, January 6, 2006, 12:24:31, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 21:29:20, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 13:18:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar Running for about 20 minutes so far... So far it crashed twice - when the computer woke up from hibernation and when I connected to my computer remotely through Remote Desktop. ...and it crashed while I wasn't doing anything in particular - first a message box with Access violation at address . Read of address . appeared, and a few minutes later: --- http://www.sterling.si/slov/mainpages/test_english/test_english.htm: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x004048ec referenced memory at 0xffd5. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 004048ec in module thebat.exe Reading from location ffd5. Registers: eax=0001 ebx= ecx=0075ee44 edx=0013e6dc esi=01af0663 edi=0013e6dc eip=004048ec esp=0013e5d0 ebp=0013e7e8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010206 Call stack: 004048EC thebat.exe:004048EC 0076FA7B thebat.exe:0076FA7B 00760E2D thebat.exe:00760E2D 00760C19 thebat.exe:00760C19 0076262D thebat.exe:0076262D 00777F9A thebat.exe:00777F9A 0077558E thebat.exe:0077558E 0049512E thebat.exe:0049512E 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739CA68 USER32.dll:7739CA68 TranslateMessageEx 7739CE7A USER32.dll:7739CE7A MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx 7C82EC9E ntdll.dll:7C82EC9E KiUserCallbackDispatcher 773AD01A USER32.dll:773AD01A SendMessageA 0076CD1C thebat.exe:0076CD1C 0076CD86 thebat.exe:0076CD86 0076C749 thebat.exe:0076C749 0076CE2A thebat.exe:0076CE2A 0076D0C1 thebat.exe:0076D0C1 0049512E thebat.exe:0049512E 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C01433 thebat.exe:00C01433 00C0154B thebat.exe:00C0154B 0060EF54 thebat.exe:0060EF54 00C01319 thebat.exe:00C01319 00C01241 thebat.exe:00C01241 00B88560 thebat.exe:00B88560 00B89127 thebat.exe:00B89127 00C34EA1 thebat.exe:00C34EA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent (btw, the address that appears in the titlebar of the message box was something I clicked a few hours before the crash - but it wasn't the last link I clicked, though it might have been the first one after restarting TB). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Enough research will tend to support your theory. -- Murphy's Law of Research Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still Curious about DDHELP.exe
On Sunday, January 8, 2006, 16:53:05, Robert D. wrote: IF this is so, then, at least, TB! should shut down ddhelp at exit of TB! TB isn't the one that starts it, it's started automatically (probably by your video card drivers). IF no other program is using it at the time of TB! shutdown That's pretty much impossible to determine. Why does Win2000 and XP NOT need the GUI DLL's from ddhelp.exe and WinME does? It probably depends on the drivers. (hint: do a text search for ddhelp.exe inside thebat.exe - it'll come up empty). Maybe that's how to approach the issue or . are they thinking that, very soon, no one will be using Win98 and WinME?? That's very likely to happen either way - none of those systems are supported by M$ anymore, and it's a real PITA writing software that still works on anything older than Windows 2000. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there. -- Harris's Law Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available
On Thursday, January 12, 2006, 20:34:42, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36501.rar This version is again crashing often enough to make it unusable. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Nobody loves a winner who wins all the time. -- Trump's Quirk of Human Nature Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available
On Saturday, January 14, 2006, 23:33:13, Paul Van Noord wrote: The Bat! 3.65.02 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36502.rar Sorry, posted in the wrong thread - 3.65.02 is the one that's crashing a lot. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.01 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Never decide to buy something while listening to the salesman. -- Berkeley's Third Law Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available
On Sunday, January 15, 2006, 2:26:35, Maxim Masiutin wrote: What about 3.65.01 - does it crash with the same frequency as 3.65.02, or more, or less? Less often - it's usable even though it crashes every now and then. 3.65.02 crashed after running for 5-10 minutes, while .01 runs for hours. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.01 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If things were left to chance, they'd be better -- Langin's Law Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: - Invalid Pointer Operation
On Sunday, January 15, 2006, 20:38:42, Eddie Castelli wrote: Any confirmation? (see Sys Environment below) No, but I got random Invalid pointer operations every now and then. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.01 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. -- First Postulate of Isomurphism Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: - Invalid Pointer Operation
On Monday, January 16, 2006, 5:57:18, Dean wrote: Just curious. I was using 3.65.2 when the invalid pointer issues started. I noticed they slowed down when I greatly diminished my IMAP capabilities. Either of you using IMAP. As you can see, I went back to 3.65 msi using all IMAP functions and no problems. Don't know if there is any correlation. I've had these problems for a while, with various severity - 3.65 and 3.65.01 are pretty much usable, and crash usually only when I connect to my computer remotely (Remote Desktop), and later when I again resume working locally, while 3.65.02 and many versions before 3.65 crashed after running for a few minutes (or even less). I do have 2 IMAP accounts, and I'm pretty sure that the errors are related to (at least) one of them. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.01 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Smile, tomorrow will be worse. -- The Murphy Philosophy Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.03 is now available
On Monday, January 16, 2006, 16:29:02, 9Val wrote: It is the same .02 just repackaged to MSI and increased version number. Weird, it crashed immediately on the first run (before even the splash appeared), but I haven't had any problems since. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] There is a solution to every problem; the only difficulty is finding it. -- Nef's Law Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.03 is now available
On Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 10:49:17, Jernej Simončič wrote: Weird, it crashed immediately on the first run (before even the splash appeared), but I haven't had any problems since. I take that back, it crashed. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Internal consistency is valued more highly than efficiency. -- Peter's Inversion Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.65.04
On Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 21:16:37, Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36504.rar Again very unstable. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The trouble with resisting temptation is it may never come your way again. -- Korman's conclusion Current beta is 3.65.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available
On Monday, January 23, 2006, 19:53:00, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Looks like the IMAP crashing problem is fixed. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Ideas endure and prosper in inverse proportion to their soundness and validity. -- Fried's Law Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Authenicating StarTls
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 21:40:46, Robert D. wrote: you actually posted your username and password to the list for everybody with a bit of knowledge to see really? Was that parts of this stuff ? Yes, it was just that - 354 lines say Username: and Password:, and the lines you sent are your username and password, all in Base64 encoding. OK ... I did Smtp Auth and Regular and, as before when I tried the same way, it fails to authenticate me as the correct user and then denies my sending ... OE works, as seen in the packets. Obviously I won't use OE anyway. Strange, your log looks like TB doesn't attempt authentication at all - here's how my log looks when TB authenticates on a server I run: [22:19:04] C: Connected to mail.ena.si, port 465 [22:19:04] S: 220 konto.si ESMTP Drive defensivly. Buy a tank. [22:19:04] C: EHLO HACTAR [22:19:04] S: 250-konto.si [22:19:04] S: 250-PIPELINING [22:19:04] S: 250-SIZE 12582912 [22:19:04] S: 250-VRFY [22:19:04] S: 250-ETRN [22:19:04] S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN [22:19:04] S: 250-AUTH=CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN [22:19:04] S: 250 8BITMIME [22:19:04] C: AUTH CRAM-MD5 [22:19:05] S: 334 PDE0MzA3OTQ4NjAuMTQxNTA3NjlAa29udG8uc2k+ [22:19:05] C: Q29uZ3JhdHVsYXRpb25zIVlvdSBkZWNyeXB0ZWQgdGhlIEJhc2U2NCB0ZXh0IW== [22:19:05] S: 235 Authentication successful [22:19:05] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=673 Note that my server supports more authentication methods, and that TB uses CRAM-MD5 authentication - maybe The Bat doesn't support LOGIN auth? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Money isn't everything. (It isn't plentiful, for instance.) -- Money Maxim Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.10 Qigong (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 23:00:40, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.70.10 Qigong (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I'm having a problem with the latest 3 beta versions, TB's icon is always animated, as if I had unread messages even when I don't have any. It appears that this is related to one of my IMAP accounts, which always shows X unread messages (where X is the number of messages in the Inbox). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.70.10 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If it should exist, it doesn't. -- Arnold's First Law of Documentation Current beta is 3.70.10 'Qigong' | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unwanted periodic mail
On Monday, February 20, 2006, 21:38:25, Vili wrote: I realised, that I hear a cling in every 20 sec... I noticed, that one of my IMAP account's log has a note in every 20 sec, that it cannot connect to the server. I had a ding every second while I was upgrading my IMAP server :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.71.01 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Them what gets -- has. -- Wakefield's Refutation of the Iron Law of Distribution Current beta is 3.71.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB and Open Office
On Friday, March 10, 2006, 12:52:22, Roelof Otten wrote: On the Ritlabs forum somebody is complaining about the inabilty to copy some cells from Open Office Calc to TB. As I don't use Open Office, I can't confirm that. Anybody? Confirmed when pasting to HTML message. Works fine with plain text. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When things are going well, someone will inevitably experiment detrimentally. -- Boyle's Second Law Current beta is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 64-bit
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 14:36:24, Cees wrote: I'm curious if this behaviour can improve in a true 64-bit email application. Is there a 64bit version of Delphi available? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] As the economy gets better, everything else gets worse. -- Buchwald's Law Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 64-bit
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 20:54:09, Neal Laugman wrote: Besides, I think RIT Labs has now migrated to C++. So if it were me, I'd be thinking C# and .NET 2.0 Framework. The Team version of Visual Studio 2005 has a 64-bit compiler and that's the only windows one I'm aware of. If TB moves to .NET, I stop updating it immediately. There must be a reason why even M$ doesn't use .NET for eg. Office. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. -- First Postulate of Isomurphism Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 64-bit
On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 22:45:39, Cees wrote: I never assumed that it should be easy merely that my hardware is 64-bits for 2,5 years now, and that I'm dying to get a proper support, finally! Blimey I'm almost due for a major upgrade, something NEW and this last platform hasn't been tested thoroughly yet. :) I've had a 64bit CPU for a year and a half (actually, I'm already on my second Athlon64), but on the Windows side of things I'm sticking with 32bit, simply because drivers for a certain piece of my hardware aren't available in 64bit version. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Being sure mistakes will occur is a good frame of mind for catching them. -- Berkeley's Thirteenth Law Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Start TB Beta reminder
On Sunday, April 9, 2006, 3:50:52, Robert D. wrote: It used to be I was reminded only the first time I ran a new Beta. If you select Start-Shutdown while TB is running, you'll get the beta reminder next time your start TB (if you haven't closed it normally before). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.72.08 (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Good times end too quickly. Bad times go on forever. -- Time Observation Current beta is 3.72.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available
On Saturday, April 29, 2006, 20:18:37, Vili wrote: I believe it is linked to using other than normal fonts. With my notebook having a native resolution of 1600 x 1050, if I used normal Is it a 19 col wide screen laptop? I'd say 16 at most. Some laptops have crazy resolution these days. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.80.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The world is more complicated than most of our theories make it out to be. -- Berkeley's First Law Current beta is 3.73 rc 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PGP 9 and TheBat
On Sunday, April 30, 2006, 21:40:23, Vilius Šumskas wrote: As far as I understand, PGP 9 is proprietary code of pgp.com, so it depends on them to provide means of access to other software developers. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) They have a public open SDK. Doesn't matter - never trust a privacy enhancement program that doesn't have it's source open. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.80.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] One man's red tape is another man's system. -- Waldo's Observation Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Vista
On Saturday, June 24, 2006, 16:30:30, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Is there a version of The Bat! that will run on 64 bit Vista? Tried the Pro Version from the rit homepage and it is a no go. That's a Vista problem then - it's a beta OS after all. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.03 BETA on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. -- Experiential Law Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
On Thursday, June 29, 2006, 14:25:00, Mary Bull wrote: See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 . This might be related to graphic drivers - have you tried updating to the latest offered by your graphic card manufacturer? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.05 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] All thing being equal, all things are never equal. -- Paradox of Selective Equality Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Document Attachments
On Sunday, July 16, 2006, 8:18:38, Dean wrote: Has anyone encountered problems when receiving email attachments from Microsoft Word? I have sent myself an email from one of my other machines via Outlook. The attachment was a Word Document with Inserted Data. When sent, the attachment had the correct name.doc When I receive the email I get an attachment that reads winmail.dat. Change the format of your message from Rich Text to either HTML or Plain Text, both of which will actually attach the document, and not embed it inside winmail.dat (which can't be read by anything but Outlook - even OE doesn't understand that). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.07 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you are on. -- New Theory of Relativity Current beta is 3.81.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.81.?? 1000 character limit in References header
On Monday, July 17, 2006, 1:06:21, Roelof Otten wrote: Over at tbot we're having a thread threading badly as TB truncates the References: header to a 1000 characters. AFAIK, the length limit for headers is 992 bytes (that includes the header name and contents), and when truncating the References header, it should be done this way: always keep the first msgid, then delete from the 2nd one onwards, until the header is short enough to fit in 992 bytes. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.07 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Nails are selectively attracted to the inside wheel on a dual wheeled vehicle. -- The Puncture Principle Current beta is 3.81.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
On Saturday, August 12, 2006, 17:01:18, Thomas Fernandez wrote: No, I don't think so. I think the Voyager installation on the stick (it's OTFE) is related to the stick's serial number. If it's the volume serial number, that can be easily changed through software. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The most important leg of a three legged stool is the one that's missing. -- Lyall's Fundamental Observation Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
On Saturday, August 12, 2006, 17:29:38, Thomas Fernandez wrote: If it is in the software of the stick, what you are suggesting is either a workaround or a crack, isn't it? Volume serial number is stored in the boot sector, and it's usually written when the disk is formatted. Given that USB pendrives are fairly unreliable storage, I see nothing wrong in changing the volume ID to get around the software lockdown. One of the many tools for changing it is available on the sysinternals website: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/VolumeId.html -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The one day you'd sell your soul for something, souls are a glut on the market. -- Faust's First Law of Synergism Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
On Sunday, August 13, 2006, 15:30:34, Peter Meyns wrote: Thanks a lot Jernej! But before changing the volume ID, I'd like to know the existing one. Where can I find it? I tried and searched on Win XP and on Kanotix, but to no avail. Just type VOL drive: in command prompt. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Once a dish is fouled up, anything added to save it will only make it worse. -- Julia's Law of Kitchen of Confusion Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML
The attached (plaintext) message causes the Invalid HTML message to appear in TB when using the Rich Text viewer. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The more food you prepare, the less your guests eat. -- The Party Law---BeginMessage--- Revision: 6945 Author: gonosztopi Date: 2006-09-09 16:59:57 +0200 (Sat, 09 Sep 2006) Log Message: --- Making portuguese users happy - fix for #954. Added ability to turn IPFilter on/off for clients/servers independently. Modified Paths: -- trunk/docs/Changelog trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp trunk/src/Preferences.cpp trunk/src/Preferences.h trunk/src/PrefsUnifiedDlg.cpp trunk/src/TextClient.cpp trunk/src/libs/ec/ECCodes.h trunk/src/muuli.wdr trunk/src/muuli_wdr.cpp trunk/src/muuli_wdr.h Modified: trunk/docs/Changelog === --- trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944) +++ trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945) @@ -22,6 +22,8 @@ * Got rid of a few more warnings. * Fixed #929: configure: BUILD_CC uses CCs CFLAGS * Implemented #962: don't display (0) when not downloading from source + * Fixed #954 - added ability turn IPFilter on/off for servers/clients + independently. ken: * Fixed control-clicking (right-clicking) on tabs in notebooks on the Modified: trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp === --- trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944) +++ trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945) @@ -281,9 +281,12 @@ if (selection EC_PREFS_SECURITY) { CECEmptyTag secPrefs(EC_TAG_PREFS_SECURITY); secPrefs.AddTag(CECTag(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES, thePrefs::CanSeeShares())); - if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) { - secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED)); + if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) { + secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS)); } + if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) { + secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS)); + } if (thePrefs::IPFilterAutoLoad()) { secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE)); } @@ -487,7 +490,8 @@ if ((oneTag = thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES)) != NULL) { thePrefs::SetCanSeeShares(oneTag-GetInt()); } - ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterOn, EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED); + ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringClients, EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS); + ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringServers, EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS); ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterAutoLoad, EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE); if ((oneTag = thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_UPDATE_URL)) != NULL) { thePrefs::SetIPFilterURL(oneTag-GetStringData()); Modified: trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp === --- trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944) +++ trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945) @@ -1192,8 +1192,10 @@ case EC_OP_SET_PREFERENCES: ((CEC_Prefs_Packet *)request)-Apply(); theApp.glob_prefs-Save(); - if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) { + if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) { theApp.clientlist-FilterQueues(); + } + if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) { theApp.serverlist-FilterServers(); } if (!thePrefs::GetNetworkED2K() theApp.IsConnectedED2K()) { Modified: trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp === --- trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944) +++ trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945) @@ -391,7 +391,7 @@ bool CIPFilter::IsFiltered(uint32 IPTest, bool isServer) { - if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) { + if ((thePrefs::IsFilteringClients() !isServer) || (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers() isServer)) { wxMutexLocker lock(m_mutex); // The IP needs to be in host order @@ -464,8 +464,10 @@ std::swap(m_iplist, evt.m_result
Re: Invalid HTML
On Saturday, September 9, 2006, 18:26:46, Roelof Otten wrote: Cannot confirm. Hmm, weird, I could when the message came to the list, but now it displays fine for me, too... -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] A coup that is known in advance is a coup that does not take place. -- Camp's Law Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory Usage in Official Release - Mapi32 failure in Beta
On Thursday, December 7, 2006, 16:42:01, Barry wrote: Interesting? Today at initial start was using 35 000 about 15 seconds after checking all the accounts (2 POP 2 IMAP) then dropped to 7 000 after closing the connection centre. I then minimised TB! and it immediately dropped to 2 000 and it remains pretty consistent thereafter. 7 000 maximised to 2 000 minimised. I've said it a million times already: don't look at the Mem Usage column in Task Manager because it's lying. That column shows how much of the program is currently resident in the *physical memory*, which doesn't mean much, especially since the Windows shell (Explorer) forces any program you minimize out of physical memory (this is why you see memory usage drop when you minimize programs). The only column in Task Manager which tells you *something* about the program is VM Size, which tells you how much memory is allocated in the program. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. -- Malek's Law Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: DEP
On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 10:51:43, Michal Kosinski wrote: Uhh, got all that (with Pentium D) and it's disabled. Can I turn it on somewhere? Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance - Data Execution Prevention. Note that not all programs are compatible with DEP. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.86.11 beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Time moves slower in a fast moving vehicle. -- Relativity For Children Current beta is 3.86.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: DEP
On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 11:33:08, Cees wrote: thought thebat! had a (similar) feature like that already? Try to execute an attached executable...it won't fire up. DEP is something different, and I really don't see why RitLabs see it as important enough to mention in the About box. DEP prevents buffer overflows from being able to cause program code to execute, it has nothing to do with executable files. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.86.11 beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. -- Haberdasher's Instruction Current beta is 3.86.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Crash when closing TB and doing Windows shutdown at the same time
If I close The Bat, then while it's Processing Folders window is still open, do a Start - Shutdown - Shutdown/Reboot, I get a notification from Windows that The Bat has crashed, then an AV or an error message from The Bat, then another Windows message that TB has crashed. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ Murphy was not just an optimist - he was a hopeless romantic. -- Jones' Extension to O'Toole's Commentary on Murphy's Laws [The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
On Monday, January 29, 2007, 17:21:16, Peter Gannushkin wrote: They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. In either of those cases the files are kept in the mail folders. The Bat doesn't leave .tmp files behind if you cancel folder compression, otherwise I'd have to have a ton of them. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Every man has a scheme that will not work. -- Howe's Law Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
On Monday, January 29, 2007, 21:27:18, Peter Meyns wrote: They don't appear in a message folder. Have a look at C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp - that's where they accumulate... :( Nope, only a ton of old Office temporary files there. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] People are always available for work in the past tense. -- Zymurgy's Law of Volunteer Labour Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: common QTs
On Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 1:21:03, Ron Secord wrote: A point that I found out the hard way when I deleted one of my accounts that had a bunch of QT's associated with it. I had this account for quite some time and completely forgot about the QT's until after I deleted it and the QT's in other accounts stopped working. Here's another vote of support. I'm keeping one of my old accounts only because of the multitude of QTs I've got in it. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] History doesn't repeat itself -- historians merely repeat each other. -- First Rule of History Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.01 (BETA) is now available
On Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 16:48:34, 9Val wrote: This version supposed to be replacement for Christmas Edition so let's start enumerate show-stoppers. I'm getting a reproducible crash on exit: --- thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0087bbde referenced memory at 0x025b2875. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- --- Error --- Runtime error 217 at 0041F971 --- OK --- --- Error --- Runtime error 216 at 00457558 --- OK --- Everything else seems to work fine though. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.96.01 (BETA) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When you are over the hill, you pick up speed. -- Baker's Byroad Current beta is 3.96.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.01 (BETA) is now available
On Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 22:28:56, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Since these days, I think of the dot as a terminator - meaning that all parts of your domain name are already present, nothing must be appended to it, and the next level is the DNS root. That only applies to DNS zone files, which otherwise append your zone to the domain name given. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.96.01 (BETA) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. -- Brooks' First Law Current beta is 3.96.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists
On Saturday, February 24, 2007, 21:24:11, Ian A. White wrote: I know it certainly is possible for spammers to use dictionary methods to get your e-mail address, however when you do not use dictionary words in your username, it points to someone harvesting them. Tell that to spammers trying to send stuff to random completely made up words on my mail server. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.96.14 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If at first you don't succeed, transform your data set. -- Law of Computability Applied to Social Science (Brook's Law) Current beta is 3.96.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists
On Sunday, February 25, 2007, 21:18:33, Ian A. White wrote: That is a little different in that there spammers are targeting a known domain. The spam (and I have received even more now) is not coming to my domain (where I restrict the usernames I will accept anyway), but to a slave address at my ISP account. What you are describing is attacks on domains that are configured to catch all. No, I'm describing what I see in the greylist filter logs. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.96.15 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If everything seems to be coming your way, you're probably in the wrong lane. -- Borstelmann's Rule Current beta is 3.96.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
On Saturday, March 3, 2007, 21:33:48, Rick Grunwald wrote: Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to research who and where. Nothing that could or should be enforced If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite) Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If two wrongs don't make a right, try three. -- Nixon's Rule Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer
The subject says it all - when rich text viewer is active, Ctrl+Ins doesn't copy selected text to the clipboard. This doesn't happen with plain text viewer. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ There is an exception to all laws. -- Government's Law [The Bat! v3.98.5 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Current beta is 3.98.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 0:28:48, Marek Mikus wrote: I have such problem in other apps, I am using Ctrl+C and it works allways. I know that Ctrl+C works, but Ctrl+Ins is much easier to press for me. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.5 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Never characterize the importance of a statement in advance. -- (Charles) Ross's Law Current beta is 3.98.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 1:51:06, Roelof Otten wrote: I'm using the RTV and Ctrl-Ins just works fine, both from the body as from the header. Tried it in the preview pane and in the folder view window. It doesn't work from the preview pane for me (but it does when the message is open in a separate window). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.5 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The chief cause of problems is solutions. -- Sevareid's Law Current beta is 3.98.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 5:57:06, Ian A. White wrote: Ctrl+C for Copy (because of the C for copy) Ctrl+X for Cut (because the X looks a bit like scissors if you squint) Ctrl+V for Paste (because the V looks like an arrow pointing to where I want the items placed) I've been using Windows for 13 years, and couldn't get myself used to these keys (and I only used DOS programs that only supported Ctrl+Ins co. for about 3 years before that). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.5 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Old age is always fifteen years older than I am. -- Baruch's Rule for Determining Old Age Current beta is 3.98.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl+Ins shortcut not working in Rich Text Viewer
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 13:21:54, Paul Van Noord wrote: I'll second that, plus it is uniform across most programs. The classic shortcuts (Ctrl+Ins, Shift+Del, Shift+Ins) work pretty much everywhere, and there's a few cases when they work even when the new ones don't. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.5 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Just when you get really good at something, you don't need to do it any more. -- Lowrey's Law of Expertis Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.06
On Monday, March 12, 2007, 17:38:31, Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39806.rar Ctrl+Ins seems to work in RTV now :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.6 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Never program and drink beer at the same time. -- Woltman's Law Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.98.14
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 12:11:30, Mike wrote: Faulting application thebat.exe, version 3.98.14.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00011e58. Sounds like RAM problem - I'd run a memory test if I were you. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.14 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Our customer's paperwork is profit. Our own paperwork is loss. -- (Tony) Brown's Law of Business Success Current beta is 3.98.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.98.15: No Disk error
On Thursday, April 19, 2007, 17:30:51, MAU wrote: As you can see, the error doesn't say it is a TB error, it says 'Windows'. But the 'Processing message...' text leads me to think (and believe) it is TB. This looks like an error from Adobe Reader when you open a PDF from CD-ROM and eject the CD afterwards. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.15 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] If the shoe fits, it's ugly. -- Gold's Law Current beta is 3.98.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Links with Accents
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 16:20:10, Vili wrote: what should be the end character for a link? Space? If we agree, Maxim can implement it in a minute, I guess. What RFC says? Space should always terminate the link - but it shouldn't be the only character that does it, depending on what's in front of the link. Take a look at the following examples: foo http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de) bar http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de) baz ^ ^ foo (http://čšž.ena.si/) bar [http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de)] baz ^^ ^ The ^'s mark parts of the URLs that should be clickable. Even something like (http://čšž.ena.si/abc(de)) shouldn't be too hard to get right, even if it could cause a few problems when the user actually forgot a space after the closing parenthesis (I tested these examples in my newsreader [Dialog], and it does the right thing, so I see no reason why The Bat couldn't). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] One child is not enough, but two are too many. -- Otoole's Axiom Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Links with Accents
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 17:49:40, Vili wrote: Is it a good method? I'd actually write the rule like this: - space always terminates the link - if the first character before URI is ,{,[,( then ,},],) followed by any non-alphanumeric or _ terminates the link (don't bother counting braces inside the link, just have any closing brace followed by space/punctuation mark the end). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Usefulness is inversely proportional to reputation for being useful. -- Greenberg's First Law of Influence Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Links with Accents
On Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 18:12:51, Jernej Simončič wrote: - if the first character before URI is ,{,[,( then ,},],) followed by any non-alphanumeric or _ terminates the link (don't bother counting braces inside the link, just have any closing brace followed by space/punctuation mark the end). Oh, I forgot: closing brace followed by % should not terminate the URL. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] In America, it's not how much an item costs, it's how much you save. -- Paulg's Law Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME reporting Windows 2003 on XP64
The macro %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME returns Windows 2003 when used on Windows XP X64 Edition (which I'm using). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ Nothing can be done in one trip. -- Cook's Second Law of Travel [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to install the Home version
On Saturday, May 5, 2007, 13:36:53, Vili wrote: Unable to open install package. Verify if the package exists and you have right to access it, or contact the owner of the package to check if the package is a valid Windows Installer install package. The wonders of Windows Installer technology - try downloading the Home MSI again, and run it. If you're lucky, you'll get the uninstall option immediately, otherwise you'll have to install it again, and then uninstall. If that still doesn't work, download the Windows Installer CleanUp from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301, use it to remove TB, then delete C:\Program Files\The Bat! manually (yes, Windows Installer screws up like this so often that Microsoft is offering a cleanup utility for it). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] A chain of reasoning is no stronger than its weakest link. -- Berkeley's Seventh Law Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 quoting in a reply
On Sunday, May 6, 2007, 23:52:13, Roelof Otten wrote: The reason that I didn't notice this behaviour was that I don't use F4 for answering without quotes. (Can't remember when I answered without quotes for the last time, if I ever did.) To tell the truth, I prefer the new behaviour - got spoiled by my news client that replies by quoting everything when nothing is selected, and with selected text only with the same keypress. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] When you arrive at your chosen campsite, it is full. -- Barber's Ninth Law of Backpacking Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to install the Home version
On Saturday, May 5, 2007, 22:05:37, Vili wrote: Thanks... Dont tell me MSI is cutting edge :)) When was the last time Microsoft released a non-beta product? :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Toothache tends to start on Saturday night. -- Laird's Law Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 quoting in a reply
On Monday, May 7, 2007, 18:51:42, Richard Wakeford wrote: Then how do you reply to a particular person or folder for whom you have specific reply quick templates but don't want to quote any of the message at any particular time, because F4 is meant to do just that? I haven't felt the need for that yet; I have several folder templates, but they don't differ between New message and Reply (except for the not including attribution line and quotes for the New message of course; practically all of my templates are actually just a collection of quick templates, so I have just one place to edit). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. -- First Postulate of Isomurphism Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Header pane drifting
In very long threads, my header pane starts pretty uselessly drifting to the left (Image1.png), instead of staying put (Image2.png). This is fairly annoying, as the view doesn't change back when going to another thread, making it impossible to see what you're actually looking at. Also, is there a setting that would keep the columns fixed? I don't want them to automatically adjust to the depth of the thread - I'd much rather see that too deep nodes would start at the left side again, with differently coloured treelines (eg. similarly to how Dialog newsreader does it - Dialog.png) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ A successful symposium depends on the ratio of meeting to eating. -- Zusmann's Rule [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] attachment: Image1.pngattachment: Image2.pngattachment: dialog.png Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Optional hiding connection centre for imap-connections
On Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:54:54, Neal Laugman wrote: For me, it would be a nice feature to have the possibility of hiding the connection centre for just imap-connections. I want this too. Me three :) Here's another vote :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] The territory behind rhetoric is too often mined with equivocation. -- Dunne's Law Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: VCF file association to TB!
On Saturday, August 18, 2007, 14:45:03, Eddie Castelli wrote: Today, when rebooting TB!, I got this window coming up - for the first time ever. The window filled the whole screen. I found it a bit strange! Any idea what this is? Looks like something went wrong with window size calculation - normally the dialog box would be fairly small and centred on screen. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.14 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one takes him. -- Kelly's Law Current beta is 3.99.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.14 BETA
On Sunday, August 19, 2007, 22:53:33, Maxim Masiutin wrote: But we didn't change anything in this area. Isn't it the best when problems resolve themselves automatically? :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance. -- Peter's Placebo Current beta is 3.99.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks
On Monday, August 20, 2007, 0:09:14, Marek Mikus wrote: I have asterisks in my W2K, see enclosed picture. Sorry, I've ment to test in the next beta which didn't yet came out. OTFE passw dialog has bullets here under WinXP. AFAIK, asterisks were standard characters using for hiding the password until (including) Windows 2000. Only Windows XP and newer use bullets. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Everything goes wrong all at once. -- Murphy's Restatement Current beta is 3.99.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler transparency beta/18
On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 2:43:10, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: Maybe it's an Win2000 issue? Looks like you're running out of GDI resources, which prevents TB from painting the column headers. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] History doesn't repeat itself -- historians merely repeat each other. -- First Rule of History Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Interface Inconsistencies
On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 20:19:40, Indie_Dev wrote: 3) In threaded view, why is there no option (not even in the right-click menu) to expand or collapse a thread? I have discussion threads going back several months. If someone replies, I have to troll through many - many - many - many trees (of the same thread due to discussion branching) to get to the current 'unread' message or a particular message that I'm looking for. Sure if you're looking for unread messages, you can use the 'Unread' view to see a new incoming message, but thats not the point. The treeview behaves similar as the standard Windows treeviews - pressing * will expand all threads, and pressing Ctrl++ will expand current thread. You can also use spacebar to jump to the next unread message (after paging through current message), which is another function common to many mail and newsreaders. Alternatively, you can use Ctrl+] to jump straight to the next unread message. The right-click menu in headers pane is already pretty cluttered, and I don't think adding even more options to it would improve it (besides, I have yet to see a treeview which has these options in a menu). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] To err is human -- to blame it on someone else is even more human. -- Jacob' Law Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resource Leak
On Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 16:37:57, Goncalo Farias wrote: I got the attached message. Hint: next time, press Ctrl+C (you'll hear a beep), and simply paste the text of the message. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] If an experiment works, something has gone wrong. -- Finagle's First Law Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resource Leak
On Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:59:27, Goncalo Farias wrote: I meant attached screenshot (and not really a email msg). I know, and I wanted to point out there's no need to send screenshots of standard dialog boxes, as they can be copied as text (this is a Windows function). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Always remember to pillage before you burn. -- Attila's Instruction Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat freezes while processing folders
I've noticed in the past few days that The Bat seems to freeze when I try to close it, and it starts processing folders. This doesn't happen if I use Folder maintenance, nor does it happen when TB is shut down when I shut down Windows. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ Whichever carousel you stand near, your baggage will arrive on another one. -- Basic Baggage Principle [The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat freezes while processing folders
On Thursday, August 30, 2007, 20:48:49, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Do you have IMAP account(s)? Yes, one. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] When opportunity knocks, you've got headphones on. -- Law of Teenage Opportunity Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat freezes while processing folders
On Friday, August 31, 2007, 8:41:19, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please narrow this issue by removing the IMAP account and testing The Bat! without it? I suspect that this is IMAP-enabled. Unfortunately I can't reproduce the issue anymore - it hasn't frozen neither yesterday, nor when I exited TB earlier today. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] You can't fall off the floor. -- Paul's Law (of Drinking) Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
On Saturday, October 6, 2007, 22:39:37, Thomas Martin wrote: I got 'Access denied' in all three cases,seems i don't remember my passowrd well. I tried the Forgot password link, we'll see if it's delivered (hopefully I registered with an address that's still valid). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Power attracts people but it cannot hold them. -- Law of Attraction Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
On Saturday, October 6, 2007, 23:06:24, Jernej Simončič wrote: I tried the Forgot password link, we'll see if it's delivered (hopefully I registered with an address that's still valid). I successfully reset my password, however I can't log in through https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php. I can browse the site from the point where I changed the password, however every page gives me Authorization error / Access denied, even though the header shows my username and name (and a Logout button). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Opportunity always knocks at the least opportune moment. -- Ducharme's Precept Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat for Mac or MacBat
On Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:36:10, Tim Casten wrote: Will the Bat run on this machine without using dualboot and installing xp on it. Kinda defeats the purpose of buying a Mac. The only way you could do that would be with something like VMWare Fusion. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.27 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] Social innovations tend to the level of minimum tolerable well being. -- Albrecht's Law Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat for Mac or MacBat
On Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 19:35:18, Vilius Šumskas wrote: I'd recommend Parallels. I've seen both in action, and VMWare Fusion easily justifies it's higher price. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.99.27 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] In specifications, Murphy's Law supersedes Ohm's. -- Klipstein's Law of Specifications Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2
On Saturday, December 22, 2007, 21:14:45, MAU wrote: Headers and free space in windows have nice gradient background; 'Nice' is just an opinion. Some of us think it is 'ugly'. I don't mind gradient backgrounds, as long as they don't clash with my colour scheme. Unfortunately, the current ones do, badly. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] The nail that sticks up gets hammered down. -- Advanced Systems News Letter Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
On Saturday, January 5, 2008, 15:21:59, Gunivortus Goos wrote: Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript, that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password and then gives the content of the mail free? This is impossible to do. What you want would require JavaScript support, but even e-mail programs that use HTML engines with JavaScript support do not execute scripts in e-mail messages anymore, since they're a security risk. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] The less work an organization produces, the more frequently it reorganizes. -- Organizational Law Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html