Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-14 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 14, 2020

Hello Zygmunt,

Sunday, June 14, 2020, 10:30:23 AM, you wrote:

>> When I hit a email link in a web page, I get a failure message from The
>> Bat indicate that it cannot find the CEF Binaries Missing!

>> Is there a work around for this problem?

> Unfortunately, this bug is not fixed yet. You can see at Bygtrack
> (https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2024) for more description.

Thanks, I add a note to confirm the same situation in 64 bit to the Bug Track.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-14 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 14, 2020

Hello ,

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z


Bug
When  I hit a email link in a web page, I get a failure message from The Bat 
indicate
that it cannot find the  CEF Binaries Missing!

Is there a work around for this problem?

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - Ctrl + C and Ctrl + T both call dialogue "Copy message(s) to"

2020-06-14 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

In earlier versions Ctrl + C used to call dialogue "Copy message(s) to" and 
Ctrl + T used to call "Move message(s) to".

Now both short cuts call the dialogue "Copy message(s) to".
For these two actions no short cuts are specified in customizer.
If the two short cuts are added in customizer, they have no effect.

0002032: Ctrl + C and Ctrl + T both call dialogue "Copy message(s) to"
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2032

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-13 Thread Sergey Chubchenko
Hi Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 2:16:13 PM:

ST> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

x64 U

Bug are not fixed:
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2021

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - grey empty area in main window after minimize and restore

2020-06-13 Thread mse
Hello Thomas,

>> * After minimizing TB! and maximizing there is a grey empty space
>> right below the menu bar. Switching messages makes it go away.

TF> No such probvlem over here.

OK, ... it happens here reproducibly. It's not HighDPI related as it 
happens on my internal FullHD-laptop screen as well.

If anyone else sees it, i wrote a BT-entry here:
0002030: Grey unfilled area in main window after minimize to task bar and 
restore to full screen state
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2030
(includes a screen shot)

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Re: 9.2.0.1 Message list losing focus for HTML messages

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

> Please support: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2029

Done.


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Re: 9.2.0.1 - Redirect

2020-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:21:33 +0200 GMT (13-Jun-20, 15:21 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Richard,

>> The "Redirect" icon on the main toolbar and the message toolbar returns this 
>> error message:
>> Ancestor for 'ContainerPanelSwitch' not found.

> Confirmed.

Confirmed.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 Message list losing focus for HTML messages

2020-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:28:12 +0200 GMT (13-Jun-20, 15:28 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>>  Any confirmations?

> Yes, confirmed here. Also, it does affect multiple selections.

Please support: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2029

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-13 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 13 June 2020 at 08:59 Jernej Simončič wrote and made these points

JS> Another problem: I've got TB set to start when I log in, and but
JS> instead of starting, it showed

JS> ---
JS> Error
JS> ---
JS> CEF binaries missing !
... 

JS> Starting it from the icon worked fine. Is this a working directory
JS> issue?

Yes.  Find  the  shortcut in the Startup folder and put the TB Program
Files folder path into the Start In field.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 line space

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew,

>> I second this. It doesn't look nice now.
>
> +1

+1 more.


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Re: 9.2.0.1 HTML Viewer: Pictures

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

> I've done that now, but I don't feel comfortable with it.

I don't feel confortable either.


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Re: 9.2.0.1 Message list losing focus for HTML messages

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

>  Any confirmations?

Yes, confirmed here. Also, it does affect multiple selections.


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Re: 9.2.0.1 - Redirect

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,

> The "Redirect" icon on the main toolbar and the message toolbar returns this 
> error message:
> Ancestor for 'ContainerPanelSwitch' not found.

Confirmed.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-13 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart,

> Is it just me or is there no way to hide the Quick Search and have it 
> automatically appear when you start typing in the Message List.

It doesn't automatically appear here.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-13 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, June 12, 2020, 13:16:13, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

Another problem: I've got TB set to start when I log in, and but
instead of starting, it showed

---
Error
---
CEF binaries missing !

The missing files are :
chrome_elf.dll
libcef.dll
libEGL.dll
libGLESv2.dll
swiftshader\libEGL.dll
swiftshader\libGLESv2.dll
icudtl.dat
snapshot_blob.bin
v8_context_snapshot.bin
cef.pak
cef_100_percent.pak
cef_200_percent.pak
cef_extensions.pak
devtools_resources.pak
locales\am.pak
locales\ar.pak
locales\bg.pak
locales\bn.pak
locales\ca.pak
locales\cs.pak
locales\da.pak
locales\de.pak
locales\el.pak
locales\en-GB.pak
locales\en-US.pak
locales\es.pak
locales\es-419.pak
locales\et.pak
locales\fa.pak
locales\fi.pak
locales\fil.pak
locales\fr.pak
locales\gu.pak
locales\he.pak
locales\hi.pak
locales\hr.pak
locales\hu.pak
locales\id.pak
locales\it.pak
locales\ja.pak
locales\kn.pak
locales\ko.pak
locales\lt.pak
locales\lv.pak
locales\ml.pak
locales\mr.pak
locales\ms.pak
locales\nb.pak
locales\nl.pak
locales\pl.pak
locales\pt-BR.pak
locales\pt-PT.pak
locales\ro.pak
locales\ru.pak
locales\sk.pak
locales\sl.pak
locales\sr.pak
locales\sv.pak
locales\sw.pak
locales\ta.pak
locales\te.pak
locales\th.pak
locales\tr.pak
locales\uk.pak
locales\vi.pak
locales\zh-CN.pak
locales\zh-TW.pak
---
V redu   
---

Starting it from the icon worked fine. Is this a working directory
issue?

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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1 line space

2020-06-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:30:32 PM, you wrote:

> I second this. It doesn't look nice now.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 Message list losing focus for HTML messages

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 14:16:13 +0300 GMT (12-Jun-20, 18:16 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

The way I work is, I highlight the first message in the message list,
and then work may way through the messages using either down-arrow or
crtl-.

This works fine if the messages are plaintext messages, but not any
more when the messages are HTML: messages. TB loses focus, the message
is greyed (not dark blue any more) in the message list, and my
keyboard shortcuts do nothing. I have to highlight the message again
in the message list with the mouse, and can then continue browsing.

Reproducable over here 100%. Any confirmations?

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Re: 9.2.0.1 line space

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:02:09 +0200 GMT (12-Jun-20, 23:02 +0700 GMT),
Martin wrote:

> Hi Stefan

> On Friday, June 12, 2020 1:16:13 PM you wrote:

>> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

>> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes

> As already mentioned: The horizontal line space in the folder list on
> the left side is too large now.

> It doesn't change when font size is reduced - seems to be sort of hard
> coded.

> Please make it changeable.

I second this. It doesn't look nice now.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: 9.2.0.1 Closing TB

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:05:59 +0200 GMT (12-Jun-20, 21:05 +0700 GMT),
Martin wrote:

> Hi The

> On Friday, June 12, 2020 2:55:34 PM you wrote:

>> It starts and runs for me here.  Other problems though:
>> hard to get it to shut down.  Task manager shows 5 or 6 instances
>> running.  I had to End Task multiple times to finally get it stopped.

> Can not confirm - closes w/o any problems.

FWIW: Not confirmed over here either. I can close TB without problems.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 HTML Viewer: Pictures

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:41:25 +0200 GMT (12-Jun-20, 21:41 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Marck,

M>>> And what does 'Manual download' actually mean?
>>
>> My  guess  is that it should be referring to the old download manager,
>> but it's not linked in yet. I'm in a "I suppose we shall see" mode.

Oh, I see. Looking forward to it.

> Thanks. So far, and although not recommended, I have set my preference
> to 'Download all' and seems to work just fine and fast.

I've done that now, but I don't feel comfortable with it. With spams,
I don't know (I actually don't have the technical knowledge) whether
pictures can container malware of any kind.

When travelling with my laptop in a country with slow internet, or
when I am on a metered connection, I don't need to download hundreds
of elaborate company logos (which I have most likely downloaded
hundreds of times before).

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Re: 9.2.0.1 HTML viewer: Picture download

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stuart,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 19:24:31 -0500 GMT (13-Jun-20, 7:24 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Stuart,
> Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:55:19 PM, you wrote:

>>>> Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.

>>> Please forward them to me as EMLs or archive. Thank you!

>> Actually I don't believe that any of the pictures are downloading at all.

> OK, I think I just solved the problem. By default in the last version of TB! I
> had set the HTML viewer to The Bat Internal Viewer. It seems to save that
> setting so when you go into the new version, the internal version was 
> displaying
> and there were no pictures downloading. And there is no way in the new version
> to change to the External viewer.
> I went back into the old version and made the change to the external viewer 
> and
> now it is used in the new version by default.

I had set the viewer to the external viewer (the internal viewer just didn't 
cut it), and now pictures were not being downloaded; the setting under Options 
/ Preferences / HTML Viewer were set to "Manually". I could not find a way to 
doenl;oad manually, so I have set it to "Automatically (not recommended)" now.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 14:56:29 +0300 GMT (12-Jun-20, 18:56 +0700 GMT),
Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote:

> Hello,

> Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z

> Extract its contents into the folder where The Bat! is installed,
> typically C:\Program Files\The Bat!

U

> Run The Bat! and get acquainted with Chromium.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mse,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:29:35 +0200 GMT (12-Jun-20, 22:29 +0700 GMT),
mse wrote:

> Hello Stefan,

STvT>> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> A few things I noticed

> * Icons of child windows are missing (editor, address book, ...).

Confirmed over here.

> * Running TB! from pinned task bar icon is not possible.

Not a problem over here. But then, I am ruinning 64b and you are
running 32b. Maybe that's the difference.

> * After minimizing TB! and maximizing there is a grey empty space
> right below the menu bar. Switching messages makes it go away.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

Is it just me or is there no way to hide the Quick Search and have it 
automatically appear when you start typing in the Message List. Also Esc twice 
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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stuart,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:55:19 PM, you wrote:

>>> Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.

>> Please forward them to me as EMLs or archive. Thank you!

> Actually I don't believe that any of the pictures are downloading at all.

OK, I think I just solved the problem. By default in the last version of TB! I 
had set the HTML viewer to The Bat Internal Viewer. It seems to save that 
setting so when you go into the new version, the internal version was 
displaying 
and there were no pictures downloading. And there is no way in the new version 
to change to the External viewer. 
I went back into the old version and made the change to the external viewer and 
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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 9:45:51 AM, you wrote:

>> Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.

> Please forward them to me as EMLs or archive. Thank you!

Actually I don't believe that any of the pictures are downloading at all.

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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 3:06:43 AM, you wrote:

> What's the point of keeping HTML browser on outdated engine that
> doesn't render quite a bit of HTML messages today anyway? :) 

I was dreaming of having a mail client with some of the most recent bugs
fixed, snappy UI/UX and without the heap of bugs introduced in v9.2.0.1


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ira
Title: Re: 9.2.0.1


Hello Richard,

Make sure the shortcut has program and start in set correctly, I had to edit my shortcut so they both pointed to "C:\Program Files\The Bat!"

Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:21:10 PM, you wrote:









I put this in Mailwasher and then The bat comes up:
"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Ritlabs The Bat!\The Bat! (64-bit).lnk"


       I couldn't get that to work and I tried it several different ways. At lease you pointed me towards the direction of being able to directly point to any email program. I suspect the "issue" is more directly related to how TB is interacting with CEF. So, I'll wait to see what the developers come up with as a fix before investing time into something that is likely to be superfluous.






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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stuart,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:51:34 AM, you wrote:

> On the bright side we are getting good at recreating toolbars as if
> you create one it will disappear on reboot. :>)

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Ira,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 2:06:50 PM, you wrote:

> The function "Reply Quoting Selected Text" does not seem to work on
> HTML messages, only on text messages.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Ira,


I guess I should say thanks, it's the first time it's ever worked since I 
started using the bat.
I've never had a problem with MailWasher and TB. I've probably been 
using both for at least 10 years.


I put this in Mailwasher and then The bat comes up:
"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Ritlabs The Bat!\The Bat! 
(64-bit).lnk"
I couldn't get that to work and I tried it several different ways. At 
lease you pointed me towards the direction of being able to directly point to 
any email program. I suspect the "issue" is more directly related to how TB is 
interacting with CEF. So, I'll wait to see what the developers come up with as 
a fix before investing time into something that is likely to be superfluous.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - Redirect

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Richard,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 5:48:26 PM, you wrote:

> The "Redirect" icon on the main toolbar and the message toolbar returns this 
> error message:
>Ancestor for 'ContainerPanelSwitch' not found.

Confirmed

Running 64Bit

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - Redirect

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Stefan,

The "Redirect" icon on the main toolbar and the message toolbar returns this 
error message:
Ancestor for 'ContainerPanelSwitch' not found.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ira
Title: Re: 9.2.0.1


Hello Richard,

I put this in Mailwasher and then The bat comes up:

"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Ritlabs The Bat!\The Bat! (64-bit).lnk"

Choose Use Other Program and then that should work. I did have to edit the shortcut as somehow it seemed to think The Bat was in Program Files(x86) ans so it would not work till I fixed that. You can't pick it either as then mailwasher just reads the name of the exe from the shortcut.

And I guess I should say thanks, it's the first time it's ever worked since I started using the bat.

 Ira

Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:57:22 PM, you wrote:





Hello Ira,





I'd guess you need to ren "the BAt" in it's own folder soyou should try pointing mailwasher to the start menu shortcut instead of The Bat exectable, or making a shortcut in The Bat folder that points to the exe and is set to start in that folder.


Thanks for your creative guess. MailWasher doesn't seem to allow one to "point" to the email program; it seems to pick it up from listings in WIN10. Since writing about the MailWasher program I found that using email links in my browser (FireFox) to email an article brings up the same errors as it attempts to load TB.
 
Hence, I suspect that the answer lies in making the CEF Library more universally embedded in the system before the system tries to load TB or somehow allow TB  to call the library before it attempts to load. Either of which is beyond my capabilities.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Ira,


I'd guess you need to ren "the BAt" in it's own folder soyou should try 
pointing mailwasher to the start menu shortcut instead of The Bat exectable, or 
making a shortcut in The Bat folder that points to the exe and is set to start 
in that folder.
Thanks for your creative guess. MailWasher doesn't seem to allow one to "point" 
to the email program; it seems to pick it up from listings in WIN10. Since 
writing about the MailWasher program I found that using email links in my 
browser (FireFox) to email an article brings up the same errors as it attempts 
to load TB. 
  
Hence, I suspect that the answer lies in making the CEF Library more 
universally embedded in the system before the system tries to load TB or 
somehow allow TB  to call the library before it attempts to load. Either of 
which is beyond my capabilities. 

Thanks again for your thoughts.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ira
Title: Re: 9.2.0.1


Hello Richard,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 11:37:02 AM, you wrote:





But I use MailWasher Pro to pre-load and remove spam before downloading to TB. When MP tries to open TB I get the long list of CEF Binaries Missing error message. I changed the mail program settings in MP and my default WIN mail program for 10-15 minutes. 



After reading todays flurry of messages, I'd guess you need to ren "the BAt" in it's own folder soyou should try pointing mailwasher to the start menu shortcut instead of The Bat exectable, or making a shortcut in The Bat folder that points to the exe and is set to start in that folder.

And isn't Mailwasher wonderful!

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - menu improvements in editors

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

STvT> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

I have created three BT entries. The Format menu of the three editors 
should be improved regarding entries about text color and text 
background color.

https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2025
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2026
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2027




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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ira
Hello Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:16:13 AM, you wrote:

Stefan> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

Thankyou, installed and running the 64 bit version.

The function "Reply Quoting Selected Text" does not seem to work on
HTML messages, only on text messages.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 2:21:45 PM, you wrote:

> Currently, CEF is not a kind of package which is automatically gets to user
> systems (I guess some day it will be distributed like that, but today it's 
> not the
> case). So, we are going to distribute CEF as  a part of The Bat! package 
> starting from the next release.

Excellent.

Thank you.

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Stefan,

My install of 9.2.0.1 is working just fine with your "fix download". The only 
problem I initially encountered was the icon pinned to the task bar needed to 
be replaced.

But I use MailWasher Pro to pre-load and remove spam before downloading to TB. 
When MP tries to open TB I get the long list of CEF Binaries Missing error 
message. I changed the mail program settings in MP and my default WIN mail 
program for 10-15 minutes. After rebooting I changed the default WIN mail 
program back to TB and set MP to open TB. The CEF Binaries Missing error 
continued when MP tried to open TB. There was/is no problem opening TB directly.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Ethan, 

>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

>> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

> This took a few attempts to get it work.

> All of my short cuts were broken.

That's because your shortcuts were configured to start in a directory different 
to the one where thebat*.exe resides. I guess we need to play with CEF settings 
and maybe even move it to its own separate directory

> Based  on  the  current conversation, how would I know if I have the most 
> current CEF
> library loaded in my system?

Currently, CEF is not a kind of package which is automatically gets to user 
systems (I guess some day it will be distributed like that, but today it's not 
the case). So, we are going to distribute CEF as  a part of The Bat! package 
starting from the next release.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Andrew,

> Would it be possible to release a "stable" build without DevExpress
> widgets _and_ without Chromium?..

No, because we have further plans on preview pane development and supporting IE 
further will just add great PITA without clear gain.

What's the point of keeping HTML browser on outdated engine that doesn't render 
quite a bit of HTML messages today anyway? :) 


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Re: 9.2.0.1 - two beta issues reagarding menues

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

STvT> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

Two beta issues (without BT-entry)
* Message / Submit a form / Submission Forms... does not open the 
corresponding section in Preferences. Nothing happens.
* HTML-Editor, menu Format contains the entry Table twice. The second 
one should be Alignment. The feature itself works.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

STvT> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

Assuming you won't return to DevExpress the following reports are 
resolved for me:

0001879: Scheduler / Refilter messages: Text in folder selection box bigger 
than normal
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1879

0001880: Sorting office / Move to folder and Copy to folder: Text in folder 
selection box bigger than normal
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1880

0001960: Customizer: Dialogue to configure keyboard shortcuts looks bad with > 
100% zoom
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1960

0001819: Themes on high-DPI monitors cut height of fixed-size dialogs
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1819


STvT> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)
With the change to Chromium HTML Handler this is also fixed:

0001500: Mails from German newspaper "Die Zeit" are not displayed in internal 
HTML Viewer: Blank message window
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1500



Still present are
0001688: HTML-Editor: Collection of High Resolution issues
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1688

0001685: Insert Symbol: Dialog looks not good on 4k-screen / blue square on top 
of dialogue
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1685




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RE:9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

 > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

 Confirmed that F5 now creates a new message.

 Thank you,

 Jerry



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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

This took a few attempts to get it work.

All of my short cuts were broken.

I have used the new EXE and things are working.

Based  on  the  current conversation, how would I know if I have the most 
current CEF
library loaded in my system?

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

> Here is  a short list of changes:

> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI must become 
> faster)

I was able to customize the tool bar.  Lock it and they terminate the program.

When I restarted, the tool bar changes remained in placed.

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Alexander,

APvT> Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version:
APvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z
U This version installed and is running just fine after replacing my 
taskbar icon to start.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 line space

2020-06-12 Thread Martin
Hi Stefan

On Friday, June 12, 2020 1:16:13 PM you wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

As already mentioned: The horizontal line space in the folder list on
the left side is too large now.

It doesn't change when font size is reduced - seems to be sort of hard
coded.

Please make it changeable.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, June 12, 2020, 13:16:13, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

devtools_resources.pak is missing from this archive - The Bat doesn't
start without it (but seems to work after getting
devtools_resources.pak from 32-bit download).

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, June 12, 2020, 13:16:13, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> [*] Loading of external resources for HTML messages (to be
> extended) can be set on HTML Viewer Preferences' page

Hopefully the old Image download manager will return (with one
improvement that I'd like to see - URLs from currently opened message
should be highlighted).

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Stefan,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

I got it up and running.

Working at away in the Beta Now.

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stuart,

SC> I had the same issue, but I shut down TB! and went to the new executable in
SC> Explorer and right click/Pin to taskbar and now it works. I did have a 
problem
SC> with deleting the old taskbar icon, but the new one seems to work.

Stuart, you are great!
That actually worked. Thank you.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

STvT> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

A few things I noticed

* Icons of child windows are missing (editor, address book, ...).
* Running TB! from pinned task bar icon is not possible.
* After minimizing TB! and maximizing there is a grey empty space 
right below the menu bar. Switching messages makes it go away.

Positive:
* I already saw that a few of my reports in Mantis can be closed now. I 
will update them.
* F5 for starting a new message works again. This small thing is maybe 
the biggest hurray for me right now. 

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 12 June 2020 at 16:16 mse wrote and made these points

... 
M> Delete old task bar icon
M> Start TB! via Exe-doubleclick
M> Add it to task bar while in running state
M> Close TB!
M> Start it via task bar icon gives the aforementioned errors.

Confirmed - with reasons.

I  have  an old link in the Start menu, which also results in the same
error.  If  I  open  the  containing  folder  and  edit  the  shortcut
properties  and  add  the  path to the exe into the (blank) "Start in"
field,  the saved link then works. I'm going to guess that the "Add to
taskbar while running" action results in a shortcut with no "Start In"
path.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello MAU,

M> Hello Stefan,

>> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI must become 
>> faster)

M> And  apparently  we are back to Old Customiser too. Lost my customised
M> toolbar.

I am also a bit sad, that I don't have an old tbuser.def lying around 
somewhere...
But I can live with that.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 10:20:26 AM, you wrote:

> And  apparently  we are back to Old Customiser too. Lost my customised
> toolbar.

On the bright side we are getting good at recreating toolbars as if you create 
one it will disappear on reboot. :>)

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello mse,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 10:16:51 AM, you wrote:

> I'm not sure, what you mean by "replace with new executable"; here is 
> what I did:

I had the same issue, but I shut down TB! and went to the new executable in 
Explorer and right click/Pin to taskbar and now it works. I did have a problem 
with deleting the old taskbar icon, but the new one seems to work.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI must become 
> faster)

And  apparently  we are back to Old Customiser too. Lost my customised
toolbar.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stuart,

>> I can confirm that the 32 bit archive starts when TheBat! is started 
>> via doubleclick on the exe-file.
>> It does not start when running from a pinned task bar icon. See the 
>> three error messages below:

SC> If you replace the taskbar icon with the new executable, does it work?

I'm not sure, what you mean by "replace with new executable"; here is 
what I did:

Delete old task bar icon
Start TB! via Exe-doubleclick
Add it to task bar while in running state
Close TB!
Start it via task bar icon gives the aforementioned errors.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello mse,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 9:59:16 AM, you wrote:

> I can confirm that the 32 bit archive starts when TheBat! is started 
> via doubleclick on the exe-file.
> It does not start when running from a pinned task bar icon. See the 
> three error messages below:

If you replace the taskbar icon with the new executable, does it work?

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gwen
Hello mse, hello Stefan,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, at 16:59:16 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:59 where I
live) mse wrote:

> Hello Stefan,
STvT>> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> I can confirm that the 32 bit archive starts when TheBat! is started 
> via doubleclick on the exe-file.
> It does not start when running from a pinned task bar icon. See the 
> three error messages below:

I reported the bug some minutes ago:
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2024


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Re: 9.2.0.1 - 32bit-archive also not running

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,

STvT> Hello mse, 

>> I need to confirm this. 32bit archive has icudtl.dat missing. Taking 
>> the one from the 64bit archive does not help. (Some files in the 
>> archives had identical file sizes, so I gave it a try...)

STvT> Thank you for noticing this!
STvT> Please try this one -
STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32-fix.7z

This archive seems to work, however I fixed it before by downloading 
the chromium for windows installation.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Stefan,
STvT> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

I can confirm that the 32 bit archive starts when TheBat! is started 
via doubleclick on the exe-file.
It does not start when running from a pinned task bar icon. See the 
three error messages below:

---
Error
---
CEF binaries missing !


The missing files are :

chrome_elf.dll
libcef.dll
swiftshader\libEGL.dll
swiftshader\libGLESv2.dll
icudtl.dat
snapshot_blob.bin
v8_context_snapshot.bin
cef.pak
cef_100_percent.pak
cef_200_percent.pak
cef_extensions.pak
devtools_resources.pak
locales\am.pak
locales\ar.pak
locales\bg.pak
locales\bn.pak
locales\ca.pak
locales\cs.pak
locales\da.pak
locales\de.pak
locales\el.pak
locales\en-GB.pak
locales\en-US.pak
locales\es.pak
locales\es-419.pak
locales\et.pak
locales\fa.pak
locales\fi.pak
locales\fil.pak
locales\fr.pak
locales\gu.pak
locales\he.pak
locales\hi.pak
locales\hr.pak
locales\hu.pak
locales\id.pak
locales\it.pak
locales\ja.pak
locales\kn.pak
locales\ko.pak
locales\lt.pak
locales\lv.pak
locales\ml.pak
locales\mr.pak
locales\ms.pak
locales\nb.pak
locales\nl.pak
locales\pl.pak
locales\pt-BR.pak
locales\pt-PT.pak
locales\ro.pak
locales\ru.pak
locales\sk.pak
locales\sl.pak
locales\sr.pak
locales\sv.pak
locales\sw.pak
locales\ta.pak
locales\te.pak
locales\th.pak
locales\tr.pak
locales\uk.pak
locales\vi.pak
locales\zh-CN.pak
locales\zh-TW.pak
---
OK   
---


---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 771760C5 in module 'ntdll.dll'. Write of address 
0010
---
OK   
---


---
Error
---
Runtime error 217 at 00742191
---
OK   
---



Extract from ex_log.txt: (the one from AppData, nothing was in the 
ex-log in my mail directory.)
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:51:07.687 StartupMgr:Library.CEF.Init 
Exception Could not initialize CEF
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:51:07.712 StartupMgr:FinalizeWSock 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 771760C5 in module 'ntdll.dll'. 
Write of address 0010
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:51:07.730 MainForm:SecondAct 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 771760C5 in module 'ntdll.dll'. 
Write of address 0010
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:52:16.925 StartupMgr:Library.CEF.Init 
Exception Could not initialize CEF
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:52:16.971 StartupMgr:FinalizeWSock 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 771760C5 in module 'ntdll.dll'. 
Write of address 0010
v9.2.0.1 (BETA) 32-bit / 12.06.2020 16:52:16.992 MainForm:SecondAct 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 771760C5 in module 'ntdll.dll'. 
Write of address 0010

Nothing was written to the thebat_exceptions in my mail directory.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes

I  don't  know it it is an intended fix, but 'Smartspace reading' with
HTML messages, which was my main PITA, seems to be working just fine.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Stuart, 

> With this version sending from my Fastmail account has become very slow.Will
> test to see if other accounts are also a problem.

Nothing was changed in relation to communication layer since the last release 
AFAIK...

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Stuart, 

> Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.

Please forward them to me as EMLs or archive. Thank you!


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Gwen, 

> You Chromium CEF codebase is too old! Chromium 80?
> This could result ins some security issues for users.

The latest Chrome version is 83. I don't remember really serious security 
issues connected to rendering with JS switched off for at least 20 versions :)

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - 32bit-archive also not running

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello mse, 

> I need to confirm this. 32bit archive has icudtl.dat missing. Taking 
> the one from the 64bit archive does not help. (Some files in the 
> archives had identical file sizes, so I gave it a try...)

Thank you for noticing this!
Please try this one - 
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32-fix.7z


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Marck,

M>> And what does 'Manual download' actually mean?
>
> My  guess  is that it should be referring to the old download manager,
> but it's not linked in yet. I'm in a "I suppose we shall see" mode.

Thanks. So far, and although not recommended, I have set my preference
to 'Download all' and seems to work just fine and fast.


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Re[2]: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan,

Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:05:26 AM, you wrote:

> Overall  UI performance seems to be back to normal after DevExpress removal.

Would it be possible to release a "stable" build without DevExpress
widgets _and_ without Chromium?..


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Marck,

TBL>> [*] Loading of external resources for HTML messages (to be
TBL>> extended) can be set on HTML Viewer Preferences' page

> ..  with  no  current  way to administrate manual mode - the 'download
> manager' is no longer there.

Yeah, it's just for a short time - we're not going to leave it this way :)


TBL>> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

> I can, at last, just hit reply and type. The hang on new message issue
> is gone! ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou!

You are always welcome, Marck! :)  Overall  UI performance seems to be back to 
normal after DevExpress removal.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 12 June 2020 at 15:26 MAU wrote and made these points

>> I have the HTML viewer in Preferences set to Manual download.

M> And what does 'Manual download' actually mean?

My  guess  is that it should be referring to the old download manager,
but it's not linked in yet. I'm in a "I suppose we shall see" mode.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Marck,

> I have the HTML viewer in Preferences set to Manual download.

And what does 'Manual download' actually mean?


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Ethan,

> I did follow the instructions and it did not work.

I did  follow the instructions and it DID work.


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Re: [SPAM] Re: 9.2.0.1 - 32bit-archive also not running

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Martin,

>>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

>> I need to confirm this. 32bit archive has icudtl.dat missing. Taking
>> the one from the 64bit archive does not help. (Some files in the 
>> archives had identical file sizes, so I gave it a try...)

M> I downloaded Chromium for Windows and copied the icudtl.dat from the
M> zip file to the TheBat! program folder. This helps.

Yes, it does. I found a working archive here:
https://chromium.woolyss.com/download/en/

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 12 June 2020 at 12:16 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote and made
these points

TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

... 
TBL> [*] Loading of external resources for HTML messages (to be
TBL> extended) can be set on HTML Viewer Preferences' page

..  with  no  current  way to administrate manual mode - the 'download
manager' is no longer there.

TBL> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes 

I can, at last, just hit reply and type. The hang on new message issue
is gone! ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou!

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread MAU
Hello Gleason,

> hard to get it to shut down.  Task manager shows 5 or 6 instances
> running.  I had to End Task multiple times to finally get it stopped.

No problem here shutting down.


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Re: [SPAM] Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Martin
Hi The

On Friday, June 12, 2020 2:55:34 PM you wrote:

> It starts and runs for me here.  Other problems though:
> hard to get it to shut down.  Task manager shows 5 or 6 instances
> running.  I had to End Task multiple times to finally get it stopped.

Can not confirm - closes w/o any problems.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: 9.2.0.1 - 32bit-archive also not running

2020-06-12 Thread Martin
Hi The

On Friday, June 12, 2020 3:00:24 PM you wrote:


> Hello Martin,

>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

> I need to confirm this. 32bit archive has icudtl.dat missing. Taking
> the one from the 64bit archive does not help. (Some files in the 
> archives had identical file sizes, so I gave it a try...)

I downloaded Chromium for Windows and copied the icudtl.dat from the
zip file to the TheBat! program folder. This helps.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Martin
Hi The

On Friday, June 12, 2020 3:33:40 PM you wrote:

> The file icudtl.dat is missing.

> I fixed it by copying the icudtl.dat from my Chromium 83 installation
> to The Bat! program folder.

Did same thing - it's running now.

But the horizontal spacing is wider now - not very comfortable... Any
option to change this?

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gwen
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, at 14:16:13 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:16 where I
live) Stefan wrote:

> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

I always install The Bat! in program folder P:\The Bat! and set as
defaul Mail client as it works in The Bat! 9.1.16.

Now the Chromium DEF libs and files are not found if i start from
command line (cmd.exe) with
start mailto:test@€xample.org

Seems The Bat! does not load libs from startup folder.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Gleason,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:55:34 AM, you wrote:

> Changes to the tool bar at the top are not saved when restarting TB.

Confirmed

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gwen
Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, at 14:56:29 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:56 where I
live) Alexander wrote:

> Can anyone confirm there are no issues with the archive for the 32-bit 
> version?

The file icudtl.dat is missing.


I fixed it by copying the icudtl.dat from my Chromium 83 installation
to The Bat! program folder.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gwen
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, at 14:16:13 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:16 where I
live) Stefan wrote:

> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

You Chromium CEF codebase is too old! Chromium 80?
This could result ins some security issues for users.


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gwen
Hello Stefan,

I get with 32bit error message that file icudtl.dat missing

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z


With this version sending from my Fastmail account has become very slow.Will 
test to see if other accounts are also a problem.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gleason


List,


Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:16:13 AM, you wrote:


 [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)


Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.


Confirmed.  Some don't display at all.




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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Gleason

Ethan,

It starts and runs for me here.  Other problems though:
hard to get it to shut down.  Task manager shows 5 or 6 instances
running.  I had to End Task multiple times to finally get it stopped.

Changes to the tool bar at the top are not saved when restarting TB.


> June 12, 2020

> Hello Zygmunt,

> Friday, June 12, 2020, 8:18:53 AM, you wrote:

>>> Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version:
>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z

>>> Extract its contents into the folder where The Bat! is installed,
>>> typically C:\Program Files\The Bat!

> I can confirm this challenge.

> I did follow the instructions and it did not work.

> I had to move to the former release to send this message.

> Any advice on what I should do to get the new beta to work.

> Jerry

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> President,
> The Desk Consulting Group Inc.
> Enabling your organization to anticipate the future with confidence!
> 1-200 North Service Road W. - Suite 311 | Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6M 2Y1
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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)

Not all messages are working with new HTML engine.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:49:11 AM, you wrote:

>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

> Several error messages at startup - can't use it

You need to use the fix from Alexander.

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Re: 9.2.0.1 - 32bit-archive also not running

2020-06-12 Thread mse
Hello Martin,

>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

M> Several error messages at startup - can't use it

M> ---
M> Error
M> ---
M> CEF binaries missing !

M> The missing files are :

M> icudtl.dat
M> ---
M> OK   
M> ---

I need to confirm this. 32bit archive has icudtl.dat missing. Taking 
the one from the 64bit archive does not help. (Some files in the 
archives had identical file sizes, so I gave it a try...)

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Ethan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 7:46:47 AM, you wrote:

> Any advice on what I should do to get the new beta to work.

Worked here.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Martin
Hi The

On Friday, June 12, 2020 1:16:13 PM you wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z

Several error messages at startup - can't use it

---
Error
---
CEF binaries missing !



The missing files are :

icudtl.dat
---
OK   
---

Back to running copy.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
June 12, 2020

Hello Zygmunt,

Friday, June 12, 2020, 8:18:53 AM, you wrote:

>> Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version:
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z

>> Extract its contents into the folder where The Bat! is installed,
>> typically C:\Program Files\The Bat!

I can confirm this challenge.

I did follow the instructions and it did not work.

I had to move to the former release to send this message.

Any advice on what I should do to get the new beta to work.

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 12 June 2020 at 12:56 Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote and made
these points

TBL> Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version:
TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z

... 

Thank you!

U

The  Chromium renderer does seem to work much better, but the download
manager  is  not  showing.  I guess the internal renderer is no longer
being  used  so  the switcher would have been removed from the message
viewer.

I have the HTML viewer in Preferences set to Manual download.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Alexander Petrari via TBBETA
Hello,

Please get this updated archive for the 64-bit version: 
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64-fix.7z

Extract its contents into the folder where The Bat! is installed, typically 
C:\Program Files\The Bat!

Run The Bat! and get acquainted with Chromium.

Can anyone confirm there are no issues with the archive for the 32-bit version?

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stefan,
Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:16:13 AM, you wrote:

> Version 9.2.0.1 (BETA) can be downloaded from

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x32.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z

> Here is  a short list of changes:

> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI must become 
> faster)
> [!] HTML engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library)
> [*] Loading of external resources for HTML messages (to be extended) can be 
> set on HTML Viewer Preferences' page
> [-] Lots of cosmetic fixes

How should this be installed. I downloaded and ran from its own folder and it 
gave me an error message ---
Error
---
CEF binaries missing !



The missing files are :

devtools_resources.pak
---
OK   
---
Then
---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 7FFF660DB38D in module 'ntdll.dll'. Write of 
address 0018
---
OK   
---


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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Title: Re: 9.2.0.1



On 12 June 2020 at 12:16 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote and made
these points

... 
TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.1-x64.7z




I can't run this build. All of these files seem present, but I get this error message before TB closes.

Reverted to previous build.

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Re: 9.2.0.1

2020-06-12 Thread Andrei Arkhipov
Title: Re: 9.2.0.1


CEF binaries missing:

devtools_resources.pak

Regards,

Andrei.

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