Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-22 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/22/2007  2:16 PM

Hi MAU,

On 2/22/2007 MAU wrote:

 Right-clicking on a folder and choosing Delete instead of Empty...
 I know, been there  done that.

M Me too. That's why I have used Customiser to 're-design' Folder Pop-up
M Menu.

A trick I use is to keep at least 1 parked message in the folders.
That brings the Are you sure... prompt. The problem with redesigning
the menu, I found, is my changes would disappear with certain
versions.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-21 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/21/2007  8:27 AM

Hi Martin,

On 2/21/2007 Martin Sebald wrote:

MS VERY time-consuming because you have to use several tools to sync the
MS folders in folder view and on the hard drive. I don't lie when I write that
MS this takes hours.

Right-clicking on a folder and choosing Delete instead of Empty...
I know, been there  done that.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-21 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/21/2007  8:58 AM

Hi Martin,

On 2/21/2007 Martin Sebald wrote:

MS Hm and how does this help me with the problem? I don't want to delete
MS folders, I want to get folders back into the folder list.

Since prevention is the best cure it might be a possible explanation
for disappearance.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-14 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/14/2007  7:59 AM

Hi Alto,

On 2/14/2007 Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 Well, he wrote this using Voyager 3.95.06, which seems pretty up-to-date.

AS No, the problem is indeed only seen with v3.0.1.33. In Voyager (current
AS non-beta) the virtual folders don't vanish - instead, they simply
AS don't work, they show no or incomplete messages. But that's a
AS different story for sure.

My virtual folders work as advertised. Always have.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/13/2007  7:26 AM

Hi Alto,

On 2/13/2007 Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 If only you are affected [...]

AS He is not.

AS However, here it only happens with Virtual Folders - create them,
AS close TheBat, open TheBat - poof, folder vanished into thin air. This
AS is completly reproducable.

AS (As always, this is seen using v3.0.1.33.)

I have used TB since v1 and win 95 thru XP and v3.95.06. Since I have
become a 100% Voyager user I have not been testing the betas due to
time constraints. I do not use common folders but use virtual folders
and have yet to see the problem. I have 100's of customers using TB
and none of them have had the problem either.

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Re: Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Bob,

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:52:43 -0700
Von: Bob Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Martin Sebald tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com

 Would it help - and make your life easier - if your TB folders AND TB
 were on your C: drive? 

I certainly advise against that. My Windows XP is currently unusable (details 
can be read on TBOT), and I expect that a Windows re-install with a formatted 
C: drive will be necessary.

D: holds the programs, and E: holds the data (including message bases). I don't 
fear a formatting of C:.

Sorry for posting from the web interface, but as I said on TBOT, Linux is my 
saviour. Thank [whoever] for double boots. I would thank Ritlabs for a 
Linux-version of TB!, but that isn't in the stars.

-- 

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/13/2007  1:26 PM

Hi Martin,

On 2/13/2007 Martin Sebald wrote:

MS But fact is, that people have problems with TB you don't have. Could you
MS please just accept that?

Perhaps different management techniques bring more positive results.
If this statement is true then it is also possible that your problem
is not the fault of the program. Determination of the root cause is
the first step in rectifying a problem.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/13/2007  3:00 PM

Hi Alexander,

ASK From you're directorylisting I can see that the folder configuration is
ASK named account.flb no matter if the installation is in OTFE mode or in
ASK plain mode.

Not here. The file is named account.efb and is encrypted.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/13/2007  3:39 PM

Hi Alexander,

On 2/13/2007 Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Hello Paul Van Noord  everyone else,

ASK on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 21:02 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote:

ASK From you're directorylisting I can see that the folder
ASK configuration is named account.flb no matter if the installation
ASK is in OTFE mode or in plain mode.

 Not here. The file is named account.efb and is encrypted.

ASK I didn't know what the file .efb was. Apparently, the extension .flb
ASK becomes .efb (instead of .elb) in OTFE.

ASK If Martin restores that file from his backup, his folders should be back
ASK as they used to be, shouldn't they?

Seems so, although I haven't tested it.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/12/2007  7:47 AM

Hi Martin,

On 2/12/2007 Martin Sebald wrote:

MS Or how do you call it when for example Windows is loosing folders from time
MS to time? Oh no problem, must be a user problem... Don't blame Microsoft!
Dunno' been using computers 20 years and consulting for 18 and am
still waiting for it to happen. I use win2K and xandros server so do
not know about win3k server.

 Again I'm really p*ssed about this experience... :-(
 Where is your signature delimiter?
MS Below Regards, Martin. Is that a problem for you?
Should be above it.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/12/2007  5:56 PM

Hi Alexander,

On 2/12/2007 Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Well, feel free to do so. Maybe it will spare us your unconstructive
ASK criticism. Everybody wants his/her bugs fixed first. I want *my* bugs
ASK fixed first.

ASK To start withm, your 1st problem could be that there have been no
ASK confirmations that other beta testers also lost their folders. You can't
ASK even reproduce it, or describe what happened before you lost the
ASK folders. A virus scanner going wild? Offline folders of your user
ASK profile on your server OS that are out of sync?

ASK Someone who's using TB in an environment like yours should comment on
ASK that. 2nd problem is - that won't be a lot of users. You're using a
ASK server OS as a workstation, and why shouldn't you, but not a lot of TB
ASK users will spend the bucks on a server OS for that.

Well said and necessary. Whining from anywhere is a pain and when the
credibility of the source has not been established it is a royal pain
in the patootie!

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-12 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Martin,

Monday, February 12, 2007, 3:17:56 PM, you wrote:

[snip]

 Read here mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] what I did to recover
 the folders. 3 hours of hand work. Great...

Well, I am not a TB Tech enough to respond in any way except to say
I am darn glad you restored your missing TB folders.  It is terribly
frustrating to have lost folders.  I thought it might get to that with
my indexing problems for several weeks but it never did, thankfully.
 And I did get some great advice here (it was the AV live scanning
 that caused my problem and it was alleviated by changing the AV,
 although I since found out I might not have had to).

Would it help - and make your life easier - if your TB folders AND TB
were on your C: drive?  Or wouldn't that help with this lost folders
problem that I gather is not completely new to you?

And to those who responded to your frustration: I do think it is not
helpful for any of us to use derogatory terms like whining. Everyone
loses.

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Re[2]: Again: lost folders in folder-list!

2007-02-11 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/11/2007  7:49 PM

Hi Martin,

On 2/11/2007 Martin Sebald wrote:

MS Why
MS does this work for everybody exept me? 

MS Again I am complaining about a serious bug (and again nobody of Ritlabs
MS will care about this). Loosing folders is bad, especially when having OTFE
MS enabled.
If only you are affected I doubt this is a serious bug but rather a
local problem. Implementing measures to track your folders seems like
a good first step.

MS Again I'm really p*ssed about this experience... :-(
I really do not care and would rather not know this.

MS Regards,
MS Martin
Where is your signature delimiter?

BTW, I'm curious why you run Windows Server.

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