Re[2]: The Bat! Help File
Hello MAU, Monday, December 19, 2005, 11:07:23 PM, you wrote: And I add: Is a new version of TB that far away? ;-) Hold your breath... Christmas is in 6 days (including today) -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:43:38 +0200, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar This help differs significantly from previous helps, and I like it much. We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Thank you for the great work Dierk and Marck! -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! Help File
Hello Tbbeta, Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar This help differs significantly from previous helps, and I like it much. We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.63.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:43:38, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Your ideas about this help are very welcome. This is what I found so far: - macros . aside from having full list of macros, also split the list by categories . change the table spacing - first column should be narrower (since this is HTML, you should try letting the rendering engine automatically size the columns - just put line breaks at the longer macros [where you have 2 macros that do the same thing, eg. 'CAPITALFIRST=textbrorbr UCFIRST=text']) . add some borders to the table -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Never characterize the importance of a statement in advance. -- (Charles) Ross's Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Maxim Masiutin, On 19-12-2005, at 14:43 (local time here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Appendices, List of symbols shows no symbols at all. -- Best regards, M. Diaz Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Maxim Masiutin, On 19-12-2005, at 14:43 (local time here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Appendices, Menu Reference - Specials and Help = This topic is incomplete -- Best regards, M. Diaz Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Maxim, Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar This help differs significantly from previous helps, and I like it much. We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! Your ideas about this help are very welcome. First of all I think that both Dierk and Marck should be thanked and congratulated for the effort and work done, I'm sure it took them many many hours. That said, I think the new help deserves a thorough revision by us before making any actual comments or _constructive_ suggestions. At least that is what I intend to do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello MAU! On Monday, December 19, 2005, 1:15 PM, you wrote: Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar This help differs significantly from previous helps, and I like it much. We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! Your ideas about this help are very welcome. First of all I think that both Dierk and Marck should be thanked and congratulated for the effort and work done, I'm sure it took them many many hours. I agree with all my heart. I expressed this thanks in two posts to TBBETA which I have not yet seen in my Dispatcher. And nor did a tbbeta acknowledgment post (I'm configured to receive those) show for either of those two missing posts; I sent them during an apparent blackout period, which I hadn't tumbled to at the time, so they may be gone forever. Also, I put a thank-you note at the Wish for a help file, http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=829 , where Maxim first told of its availability in an added note. That Feature Request (Wish) is now Resolved. beaming with happiness about that That said, I think the new help deserves a thorough revision by us before making any actual comments or _constructive_ suggestions. At least that is what I intend to do. Completely agree. I am in the process of reading every word and clicking all the links as they show up. I am very, very much pleased at the step-by-step instructions on how to use each function and feature. And I like very, very much the Menu Tree to the left of the Help Window, when you click on TB! Main Page/Help/Help Topics. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hi Maxim Masiutin, Monday, December 19, 2005 you let us know -possibly edited- : Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar It must be Christmas time ;) My special thank goes to Dierk Haasis and Marck D Pearlstone. Thank you so very much for all the work on it! -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Maxim Masiutin, On 19-12-2005, at 14:43 (local time here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Program Preferences, Viewer/Editor not so informative: takes you to a capture of the configuration window you were looking at when pressing the F1 key. Some options not explained anywhere (that I can find): Smart tabs, Quote name limit. -- Best regards, M. Diaz Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Manuel! On Monday, December 19, 2005, 1:45 PM, you wrote, referromg to Maxim's mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Program Preferences, Viewer/Editor not so informative: takes you to a capture of the configuration window you were looking at when pressing the F1 key. Some options not explained anywhere (that I can find): Smart tabs, Quote name limit. I agree. 1) There should be some discussion of the settings illustrated by the screenshot of all the various Configuration Windows, as there is for Plug-ins and System Hot-Keys. 2) Additionally, in regard to the discussion of System Hot-Keys: It would be well to put a note there referring to Customise and the configuring of shortcuts, with a link to Customise (in the Menu Tree, that's under Advanced Use/Customisation. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Dear Manuel, @19-Dec-2005, 20:45 +0100 (19-Dec 19:45 here) Manuel Diaz [MD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maxim: Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. MD Program Preferences, Viewer/Editor not so informative: takes MD you to a capture of the configuration window you were looking at when MD pressing the F1 key. Some options not explained anywhere (that I can MD find): Smart tabs, Quote name limit. There are many incomplete sections, yes. Some of the preferences section has some documentation, but very little. This is still work in progress. Hence a release (at this stage) only to the beta squad. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpJlski2vj3z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Marck! On Monday, December 19, 2005, 2:23 PM, you wrote: Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. MD Program Preferences, Viewer/Editor not so informative: takes MD you to a capture of the configuration window you were looking at when MD pressing the F1 key. Some options not explained anywhere (that I can MD find): Smart tabs, Quote name limit. There are many incomplete sections, yes. Some of the preferences section has some documentation, but very little. This is still work in progress. Hence a release (at this stage) only to the beta squad. Marck, it is still so beautifully done. My heartfelt thanks to you and to Dierk. Would like to express my thought about the incomplete sections that much of the New Help File was written simultaneously with on-going major revisions of The Bat! Some of the incomplete sections are incomplete because of lack of information on how various things function. Shortcut Editor is a case in point, I think. But I am sure all will get written, as the beta testers put their suggestions here, and this New Help File will be a good place for everyone to turn to, both beginning and new users of The Bat! and advanced and/or long-time TB! users. I am so happy about it. Again, I thank both you and Dierk for all your hard work. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hallo Maxim, On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:43:38 +0200GMT (19-12-2005, 14:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM Your ideas about this help are very welcome. The full alphabetic list of macros isn't complete. SetEditor is missing. -- Groetjes, Roelof I was the kid next door's imaginary friend. The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpufMIFOzw0L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Marck, First of all, and again, a big thank you to both Dierk and you. There are many incomplete sections, yes. Some of the preferences section has some documentation, but very little. This is still work in progress. Hence a release (at this stage) only to the beta squad. But Maxim said: We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! And I add: Is a new version of TB that far away? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello MAU! On Monday, December 19, 2005, 3:07 PM, you wrote: There are many incomplete sections, yes. Some of the preferences section has some documentation, but very little. This is still work in progress. Hence a release (at this stage) only to the beta squad. But Maxim said: We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! And I add: Is a new version of TB that far away? ;-) That possibility is one reason that I'm going through the new Help File with as careful attention as I can bring to it. A new version of The Bat! shouldn't go out with some of the newer features left unexplained in the Help File. As I said in my post to Marck, it seems to me that some of the incomplete sections are incomplete because The Bat! was undergoing a major rewrite simultaneously with the work on the Help file. But it is still extremely well done, and I am so happy to have it. I hope Stefan will be able to see what a valuable addition a Draft folder would be to many users, and a section on the new Draft folder will need to be incorporated into the new Help File. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Mary, I hope Stefan will be able to see what a valuable addition a Draft folder would be to many users, and a section on the new Draft folder will need to be incorporated into the new Help File. You never loose hope, do you? You are so darling :)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! Help File
Hi Mary, Monday, December 19, 2005, 8:46:23 PM, you wrote: Shortcut Editor is a case in point, I think. Where is this Shortcut Editor, I can't seem to find it anywhere on the menus. I'd love to know because I've been fighting some of the shortcuts that are assigned to common tasks. Can you tell me where I can access this? -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! Help File
Monday, December 19, 2005, 10:03:54 PM, you wrote: Where is this Shortcut Editor Sorry to reply to myself, but I've found it, I think. It's under the View - Toolbars - Customise menu. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Paul! On Monday, December 19, 2005, 4:03 PM, you wrote: Shortcut Editor is a case in point, I think. Where is this Shortcut Editor, I can't seem to find it anywhere on the menus. I'd love to know because I've been fighting some of the shortcuts that are assigned to common tasks. Can you tell me where I can access this? Yes. It's a bit tricky to use. Part of the new user interface that was being written through the summer and fall. View/Toolbars/Customise (from TB!'s main window.) When you get to the Customise window, you will see a scrollable menu at the very top. The choices are in alphabetical order. Scroll way down and click on Shortcut Collection. Click on one--it will appear in the Shortcut square in the bottom right of the window. I just did it for Underline. I clicked on Okay, and Ctrl+U will supposedly underline for me. (Except I use MicroEd, so I don't think so. Nope.) There's also a way to input your own keyboard combination. But I've never done it. I'm a mouse person. You might ask on TBUDL. I've seen it explained there more than once. And, since this is a part of the TB! full release, how it works is no longer a beta issue. However, there's overlap between those subscribed here and those subscribed on TBUDL. So someone who does know how to do it might contribute to the thread and answer your question here. Sorry not to be of more help. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
