Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Images in HTML mail

2012-07-13 Thread Steven P Vallière

Rick,

Thursday, July 12, 2012, 2:10:54 PM, you wrote:

 That bug appears to be related to a problem with viewing
 images in email RECEIVED BY TheBat, while my problem has
 always been with messages SENT FROM TheBat.  I don't
 think it applies to the problem I'm reporting.

R If you have truly embedded an image, I have found that it will show in other 
email clients
R If you are seeing an image displayed from a LINK, it will NOT
R appear when you forward it from the Bat. 
R That is an issue that must be addressed when they redo the message editor

I may not have been clear about this in previous messages,
but the image is *NOT* a link.  However, Thunderbird and
the others show only an empty placeholder where the image
belongs and they show that there is an attachment, too,
which is the image that belongs where the placeholder is
shown.  I think that if you looked at the screen shots at
the links I posted it would have been quite clear.

Also, if it was not clear, this problem has existed in
TheBat! as long as I have been using it.  RIT's standard
response has always been to say that they are right and
everyone that doesn't display their messages correctly is
wrong.  While that may be technically correct, it would
seem very sensible to ensure that TheBat!'s messages would
display correctly in any email client that is more popular
than TheBat!  I checked a few sites that track such things
and have deduced that TheBat! (while a very good product)
has significantly less than 0.5% of the total market for
email clients.

http://visibleranking.com/most-popular-email-clients.php

http://www.labnol.org/internet/email/most-popular-email-clients/9340/

http://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/most-popular-email-marketing-clients/attachment/email-client-popularity/

I believe that, if TheBat! were in the top few, then it is
possible to force others to conform if you adopt the We're
right, everyone else is wrong attitude, but TheBat! isn't
at that point, so they should probably conform to the more
commonly accepted standards rather than sticking to the
letter of one particular standard (or is it actually only
an RFC?) that they got working.

-- 
Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.6.7 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com
--
If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen.
   -Larry Zana



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***SPAM*** Re: Images in HTML mail

2012-07-12 Thread Steven P Vallière

Thomas,

Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 12:04:47 PM, you wrote:

SPV   http://www.svalli.com/files/batbug-ei-sm.png
SPV   http://www.svalli.com/files/batbug-ei-rr.png
SPV   http://www.svalli.com/files/batbug-ei-tb.png

TF Or is this TheBat! rather than Thunderbird?

The three places I saw problems were Thunderbird (tb),
Squirrel Mail (sm), my RoadRunner ISP's web mail (rr)
and RoundCube (no image captured.)  In all of those,
the image appears as an attachment and I /can/ eventually
see it.  In some, there is a placeholder for the image
and sometimes the placeholder is the correct size, but
the image is not shown.

All of these programs show images fine when they come
FROM each other or Outlook or gmail or whatever.  So far,
I've only had trouble with HTML messages sent from TheBat!

TF I believe you just missed the bug report as per
TF mid:421411532.20120710201...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de

TF The bug report is here:
TF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=44
TF Please add a note with your comments.

That bug appears to be related to a problem with viewing
images in email RECEIVED BY TheBat, while my problem has
always been with messages SENT FROM TheBat.  I don't
think it applies to the problem I'm reporting.

-- 
Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.6.7 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com
--
If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen.
   -Larry Zana



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http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Images in HTML mail

2012-07-12 Thread Rick
 That bug appears to be related to a problem with viewing
 images in email RECEIVED BY TheBat, while my problem has
 always been with messages SENT FROM TheBat.  I don't
 think it applies to the problem I'm reporting.

If you have truly embedded an image, I have found that it will show in other 
email clients
If you are seeing an image displayed from a LINK, it will NOT appear when you 
forward it from the Bat. 
That is an issue that must be addressed when they redo the message editor

-- 
Rick
People are like stained glass windows:  They sparkle and shine when the sun is 
out,
But when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a 
light shining from within.

v5.1.6.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 3
Using all POP accounts
I download all images

 



 Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html