Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-09 Thread tux.
Whoa... so many updates. :-)

Updating! Thank you for your hard work, RITlabs. <3



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-08 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Maxim,

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 1:02:35 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi

> Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a message should be 
> resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm.

I can confirmed the problem is resolved.

Thank you,

Jerry

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 Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-08 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Curt,

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 9:20:32 AM, you wrote:

> I received no such warning. I saw smartscreen.exe launch (in
> processes), then evaporate, which is normal behavior.

> All was really terribly "normal."

Thank you. We will keep our regular (normal) code signing certificate then 
rather then buying an EV-certificate.

-- 
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Maxim Masiutin



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-08 Thread Curt Akin
Hello Maxim,

I received no such warning. I saw smartscreen.exe launch (in processes), then 
evaporate, which is normal behavior.

All was really terribly "normal."

--
Best regards,
Curt Akin
using TheBat! 8.5.6
under Windows 10.0 Build 17074
with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet.

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 2:10:40 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Curt,

> Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote:

>> U No shutdown after send.

> Did you receive the "SmartScreen" warning when you have installed this MSI?

> I have found out that if a developer has a standard code signing
> certificate, some time will be needed for the application to build
> "trust" with the SmartScreen. Microsoft affirms that an Extended
> Validation (EV) Code Signing Certificate allows to skip this period of trust 
> building.

> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2012/08/14/microsoft-smartscreen-extended-validation-ev-code-signing-certificates/

> According to the information from the link, extended validation
> certificates allow the developer to immediately establish reputation
> with SmartScreen. Otherwise, the users will see a warning like
> "Windows Defender Smartscreen prevented an unrecognized app from
> starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.", with the two
> buttons: "Run anyway" and "Don't run".

> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsnetsetup/2013/01/09/windows-smartscreen-prevented-an-unrecognized-app-from-running-running-this-app-might-put-your-pc-at-risk/

> Another Microsoft resource from the second link (above) states the
> following (quote): "Although not required, programs signed by an EV
> code signing certificate can immediately establish reputation with
> SmartScreen reputation services even if no prior reputation exists
> for that file or publisher. EV code signing certificates also have a
> unique identifier which makes it easier to maintain reputation across 
> certificate renewals."

> My question is how long does it take for The Bat! new MSI files to
> build "trust" with the Smartscreen?
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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-08 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Curt,

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote:

> U No shutdown after send.

Did you receive the "SmartScreen" warning when you have installed this MSI?

I have found out that if a developer has a standard code signing certificate, 
some time will be needed for the application to build "trust" with the 
SmartScreen. Microsoft affirms that an Extended Validation (EV) Code Signing 
Certificate allows to skip this period of trust building.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2012/08/14/microsoft-smartscreen-extended-validation-ev-code-signing-certificates/

According to the information from the link, extended validation certificates 
allow the developer to immediately establish reputation with SmartScreen. 
Otherwise, the users will see a warning like "Windows Defender Smartscreen 
prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC 
at risk.", with the two buttons: "Run anyway" and "Don't run".

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsnetsetup/2013/01/09/windows-smartscreen-prevented-an-unrecognized-app-from-running-running-this-app-might-put-your-pc-at-risk/

Another Microsoft resource from the second link (above) states the following 
(quote): "Although not required, programs signed by an EV code signing 
certificate can immediately establish reputation with SmartScreen reputation 
services even if no prior reputation exists for that file or publisher. EV code 
signing certificates also have a unique identifier which makes it easier to 
maintain reputation across certificate renewals."

My question is how long does it take for The Bat! new MSI files to build 
"trust" with the Smartscreen?

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-08 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Ira,

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:53:14 AM, you wrote:

> Thank you so much, this fixes that most annoying problem.

One of the most annying and hard-to-diagnose problem that we ever had.

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-07 Thread Ira
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, July 7, 2018, 10:02:35 PM, you wrote:


> Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a
> message should be resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm.

Thank you so much, this fixes that most annoying problem.

-- Ira 



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-07 Thread Curt Akin
Hello Maxim,

Yes, all appears well.

--
Best regards,
Curt Akin
using TheBat! 8.5.6
under Windows 10.0 Build 17074
with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet.

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 1:02:35 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi

> Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a message
> should be resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm.
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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-07 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Curt,

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote:

> U No shutdown after send.

Good news! Thank you! What a nasty trouble it was!

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin



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Re: 8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-07 Thread Curt Akin
Hello Maxim,

U No shutdown after send.

--
Best regards,
Curt Akin
using TheBat! 8.5.6
under Windows 10.0 Build 17074
with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet.

Sunday, July 8, 2018, 1:02:35 AM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi
 Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


8.5.6 MSI files

2018-07-07 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Please try 8.5.6 MSI files:

https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_32_8-5-6.msi
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi

Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a message should be 
resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm.

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin



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