Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-05-10 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:47:49 +0200, Joerg Schiermeier wrote:

Would be nice if someone informs me when the bugtracker is online again.

Don't hold your breath...

Nobody asked for my opinion but I will give it anyway:
Beta! version 5.1 released + Bugtracker dying = Too much of a
coincidence.

Arjan
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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-05-10 Thread Rick
 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:47:49 +0200, Joerg Schiermeier wrote:

Would be nice if someone informs me when the bugtracker is online again.

 Don't hold your breath...

 Nobody asked for my opinion but I will give it anyway:
 Beta! version 5.1 released + Bugtracker dying = Too much of a
 coincidence.

What lesson are we to discern from this? Also, you said Ritlabs was a one man 
operation now. Do you have some evidence or a link to back that up? I asked you 
once before but you never replied

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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-05-10 Thread Viktor Kabelac
Hello Rick,

Thursday, May 10, 2012, 4:54:55 PM, you wrote:

 Nobody asked for my opinion but I will give it anyway:
 Beta! version 5.1 released + Bugtracker dying = Too much of a
 coincidence.

 What lesson are we to discern from this? Also, you said Ritlabs was a
 one man operation now. Do you have some evidence or a link to back that
Seriously, even if it were, there's nothing wrong with that alone. It'd rather
make the achievements more impressive.
The problem, as I see it, is the symptoms - that do not necessarily require an 
one-man-show behind the
product: the strange focus on features and ignoring others (including
erros); the obviously broken release(s) etc.

Let's hope for the best - a nice stable mail program with features just as
you need them - as TB! used to be.

And, personally, I'd wish I could get an answer to my old question: is it
enough to find and agree on a bug on the list here, or is there a bugracker
I need to use (and where)?

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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-05-10 Thread Rick
 Hello Rick,

 Thursday, May 10, 2012, 4:54:55 PM, you wrote:

 Nobody asked for my opinion but I will give it anyway:
 Beta! version 5.1 released + Bugtracker dying = Too much of a
 coincidence.

 What lesson are we to discern from this? Also, you said Ritlabs was a
 one man operation now. Do you have some evidence or a link to back that
 Seriously, even if it were, there's nothing wrong with that alone. It'd rather
 make the achievements more impressive.
 The problem, as I see it, is the symptoms - that do not necessarily
 require an one-man-show behind the
 product: the strange focus on features and ignoring others (including
 erros); the obviously broken release(s) etc.

 Let's hope for the best - a nice stable mail program with features just as
 you need them - as TB! used to be.

 And, personally, I'd wish I could get an answer to my old question: is it
 enough to find and agree on a bug on the list here, or is there a bugracker
 I need to use (and where)?

Hi Viktor - Arjan makes ad hominum attacks on Ritlabs and I would just like to 
see him BACK UP what he says. He shows up every so often and has nothing good 
to say about anything. He is not even using the Bat, just complaining on the 
Beta list

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by the rulers as useful.
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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-05-10 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:54:55 -0400, Rick wrote:

 Nobody asked for my opinion but I will give it anyway:
 Beta! version 5.1 released + Bugtracker dying = Too much of a
 coincidence.

What lesson are we to discern from this? 

None. It's just an opinion. My opinion is that Ritlabs wanted to get
rid of the Bugtracker history and make a fresh start, probably
without a renewed bugtacker. Much more convenient for them, don't you
think?

Now I may be right or wrong, and you may agree or not. It just doesn't
matter.

Also, you said Ritlabs was a one man operation now. 

You must confuse me with someone else.

Do you have some evidence or a link to back that up? I asked you once 
before but you never replied

I never said RL is a one man operation so there's nothing to prove.

Arjan.
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Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-04-19 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Is there a new URL for this bugtracker? Or will it disappear for ever?

Please Ritlabs send an answer. Also I want update the URL in wines
application database. See
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=68

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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-04-19 Thread mse
Hello Joerg,

JS Please Ritlabs send an answer. Also I want update the URL in wines
JS application database. See
JS http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=68

Until there is something new, you could temporarily remove the link and put in 
something like Currently down for maintenance?

Best regards,
mse
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Re: Again: Bug tracker no longer available - something new?

2012-04-19 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
mse wrote:

 Until there is something new, you could temporarily remove the link and
 put in something like Currently down for maintenance?

This isn't possible because the system only allows valid URLs.
So I just removed the bugtracker link.

Would be nice if someone informs me when the bugtracker is online again.

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