Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
Hello Dwight, you can hardly tell them that they or their mail contacts are morons (technically, of course you can, but you'll be doing it at jobs changing in a fast pace). If there are people sending me mails of 10, 20 or 30 MB (this are realistic sizes I have witnessed and I have no illusions regarding other people not seeing much bigger ones), there is no reason to have a column that contains 8 and more digits and be forced to count them in 3somes to find out the mail sizes. I read that you are saying you shouldn't tell them are morons, just assume they are and treat them as such. You do not seem to read what I am saying. I say - your mail partners or users of your mail program do have a way of using their IT resources, be it by sending 50MB large mails. Unless you are their boss, it's not your job to tell them they should be using them in a way we think is more correct (you are free to think it, but that's about all). The conclusion is, big emails are reality and it is not helping to attempt to deny it when designing and developing software handling that data. It will only lead to lessened user comfort of senders or receivers by having their programs crash or display astronomic numbers where MB would be appropriate. How was this nice rule...be strict about what you produce and benevolent about what you can handle? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
On 03.10.2011 NetVicious wrote: One mail should not be more greater than 10Mb, so I think the current way of show the size of the emails it's correct. As already Viktor Kabelac wrote, even with a 10 MB mail you'll get at least 8 digits in the column Size, what doesn't look very nice IMO, especially if the sizes of the other mails in the same folder have only 4-5 digits. Besides, even the old OE shows the sizes in KB. Now we should not have any problem with column sizes, because the monitores are becoming bigger and bigger with the time (mine it's a 24 inches one at 1920x1200), so the 30-50 pixels of the message size should not be any problem for all the TB! users, IMHO. There are still a lot of offices and so on with old 19 4:3 monitors, which are still working fine, and TB! is not only for private use, so it can't be a real option. -- Alex www.BatBoard.net [ The Bat! v4.2.44.2 | Regula Anti-Spam Plugin v2.2.7.0 ] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
Regarding today's internet capabilities, down- and upload rates, harddrive sizes, possible message attachment sizes it seems a lot more up to date to show message sizes in Kilobytes (at least) or even Megabytes (adequately rounded). Maybe this could be made customizable via Preferences. One mail should not be more greater than 10Mb, so I think the current way of show the size of the emails it's correct. However it'd be nice if all people were bytes and sizes aware, your argument is the typical mistake of many IT people. Similar with your decision on behalf of everyone else on how many pixels do and do not hurt. Something should be one way, so we simply ignore the mostly different reality (I am not handling that, no one has any business doing it that way). The problem with this approach is, that if you are writing an application for users (normal people out there, you know), you can hardly tell them that they or their mail contacts are morons (technically, of course you can, but you'll be doing it at jobs changing in a fast pace). If there are people sending me mails of 10, 20 or 30 MB (this are realistic sizes I have witnessed and I have no illusions regarding other people not seeing much bigger ones), there is no reason to have a column that contains 8 and more digits and be forced to count them in 3somes to find out the mail sizes. So, if, optionally, the display could say 2,4 kB and 15,8 MB, I personally would be all for it. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
On Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 2:51:39 PM, Viktor Kabelac wrote: you can hardly tell them that they or their mail contacts are morons (technically, of course you can, but you'll be doing it at jobs changing in a fast pace). If there are people sending me mails of 10, 20 or 30 MB (this are realistic sizes I have witnessed and I have no illusions regarding other people not seeing much bigger ones), there is no reason to have a column that contains 8 and more digits and be forced to count them in 3somes to find out the mail sizes. I read that you are saying you shouldn't tell them are morons, just assume they are and treat them as such. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
sábado, 1 oct 2011 at 22:18, it seems you wrote: Regarding today's internet capabilities, down- and upload rates, harddrive sizes, possible message attachment sizes it seems a lot more up to date to show message sizes in Kilobytes (at least) or even Megabytes (adequately rounded). Maybe this could be made customizable via Preferences. One mail should not be more greater than 10Mb, so I think the current way of show the size of the emails it's correct. Now we should not have any problem with column sizes, because the monitores are becoming bigger and bigger with the time (mine it's a 24 inches one at 1920x1200), so the 30-50 pixels of the message size should not be any problem for all the TB! users, IMHO. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.20.1 Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.3.0.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
On Monday, October 3, 2011, 6:23:20 PM, NetVicious wrote: One mail should not be more greater than 10Mb, so I think the current way of show the size of the emails it's correct. I often feel like I am swimming upstream, but I agree with this. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wish: A more contemporary format of the message size given in the Size-column in message list
Hello all, A wish has been posted on the German forum batboard.net In message list, the column Size is formatted to show the message size in Bytes. Regarding today's internet capabilities, down- and upload rates, harddrive sizes, possible message attachment sizes it seems a lot more up to date to show message sizes in Kilobytes (at least) or even Megabytes (adequately rounded). Maybe this could be made customizable via Preferences. What are your opinions on that? I submitted this to the Wish-Tracker https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8893 Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 SP1 32Bit, without OTFE Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
