Hello 9Val,
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:28:49 +0700 GMT (28/06/2005, 21:28 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
[Not being able to assign hotkeys to encodings any more]
9 It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found workaround.
TF Thanks for your reply, it's very honest. I'll be looking forward
Hello Thomas,
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:41:42 +0700 GMT (27/06/2005, 23:41 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF I still cannot assign a short-cut to message encodings.
9 ...
TF Also, I cannot assign a short-cut to the interface language.
9 It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found
Hi Thomas,
TF I still cannot assign a short-cut to message encodings.
...
TF Also, I cannot assign a short-cut to the interface language.
It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found workaround.
--
9Val
Hello 9Val,
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:22:24 +0300 GMT (27/06/2005, 15:22 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:
TF I still cannot assign a short-cut to message encodings.
9 ...
TF Also, I cannot assign a short-cut to the interface language.
9 It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found workaround.
Thanks
Hello 9Val,
Friday, June 24, 2005, 5:06:06 AM, you wrote:
Hi All,
So, how some testers have already seen, I've returned at the
beginning of the week. It took a long time to read all messages :-)
We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
Hello 9Val,
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:06:06 +0300 GMT (24/06/2005, 16:06 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:
9 We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
9 deadlines and no rush. Only approved by your responses versions will
9 be named releases.
I humbly approve of this policy.
On 2005-06-24 (14:35), you wrote:
First things first.
Tell this to RITLABS ...
If IMAP and Exchange handling reach the quality level of POP, then by
all means start playing around with nntp.
In pronciples you are all right, but in facts. For example: customisable
interface is not
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 2:02:14 AM [GMT -0500], Krzysztof Kudlacik
wrote:
In pronciples you are all right, but in facts. For example:
customisable interface is not connected with POP/IMAP/Exchange, but it
took over 6 months of RITs time.
Interestingly, it's this customisable interface
Hi All,
So, how some testers have already seen, I've returned at the
beginning of the week. It took a long time to read all messages :-)
We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
deadlines and no rush. Only approved by your responses versions will
be
Hi 9Val,
Le vendredi 24 juin 2005 à 11:06:06, vous écriviez :
9 Hi All,
9 So, how some testers have already seen, I've returned at the
9 beginning of the week. It took a long time to read all messages :-)
9 We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
9
9Val,
On 24-06-2005 11:06, you [9] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
9 Currently main directions of TB! development are:
9 - IMAP
Looking very much forward.
9 - Unicode support
Should be good.
9 - HTML editor improvements
I suppose this will be a wise business decision.
9 - Customization
On 6/24/05, 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
deadlines and no rush. Only approved by your responses versions will
be named releases.
Fair enough, but I have two concerns:
1. Currently 3.5.30 seems to be the MSI that is
On Friday, June 24, 2005 at 5:34:13 AM [GMT -0500], Avi Yashar wrote:
2. Several days ago, Maxim announced that several bug fixes had
already been completed - including a fix to the Connection Centre -
that I have been wanting for a long time. I would surely prefer to get
a version of TB with
Hi Avi,
AY2. Several days ago, Maxim announced that several bug fixes had
AY already been completed - including a fix to the Connection Centre -
AY that I have been wanting for a long time. I would surely prefer to get
AY a version of TB with that long-awaited fix ASAP.
Yes, there are a
On 6/24/05, 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Avi,
AY2. Several days ago, Maxim announced that several bug fixes had
AY already been completed - including a fix to the Connection Centre -
AY that I have been wanting for a long time. I would surely prefer to get
AY a version of TB with
On 05-06-24 (11:06), you wrote:
Currently main directions of TB! development are:
- IMAP
- Unicode support
- HTML editor improvements
- Customization
- Bug-fixes
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
... on and on ...
Best regards, Krzysztof Kudlacik
--
pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 1:52 pm +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you want to start another rush session?
Not for publication to the public no, but it would be nice if you could get
your finger out for us testers :)
I know it's going to take a while but it would be nice if I
On 6/24/05, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
9Val gave us a mini roadmap. Don't take it to be more than what it is.
What does it have to do with a new service release that includes the
fixes that were already reported as done?
Allie, I believe that 9Val's response to me and my reply to
Hello.
9 Hi All,
9 So, how some testers have already seen, I've returned at the
9 beginning of the week. It took a long time to read all messages :-)
9 We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
9 deadlines and no rush. Only approved by your responses
On 6/24/05, Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not for publication to the public no, but it would be nice if you could get
your finger out for us testers :)
Right. That was my point also.
Having said that, Tony, I'm not acquainted with the expression - get
your finger out. I infer that it
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 1:44 pm +0200 Krzysztof Kudlacik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
... on and on ...
I'd like to add something to the wish list if I may, photo and graphic
editing. I know it will take quite a while to get TB! as good as Photoshop
but it would
Hi Avi,
AY My second point pertained only to beta releases. So we all know that
AY the fixes that have been done are not yet ready for the public. But we
AY are not the public - we are RL's beta testers. So why not releas a
AY version of TB with those fixes to us?
Yes, there are a lot fixes
Bonjour Tony,
TB I'd like to add something to the wish list if I may, photo and graphic
TB editing. I know it will take quite a while to get TB! as good as Photoshop
TB but it would be nice not to have to open a separate program just to edit my
TB photo's... Oh and video editing, Adobe Premiere
On 6/24/05, 9Val wrote:
BTW, it is unpleasant to publish any unfinished work, no matter of
name (alpha/beta/release) and no matter who'll use it (testers/end
users/reviewers)
I understand. I appreciate people who always try to produce the best
possible product that they can, and I
I'd like to add something to the wish list if I may,
Fnar-fnar.
--
Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70,
MyMacros 1.11a.
A backward poet writes inverse.
pgpDKBSSDqfEw.pgp
On 6/24/05, Tony Boom wrote:
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 3:13 pm +0300 Avi Yashar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Having said that, Tony, I'm not acquainted with the expression - get
your finger out. I infer that it means something like get a move
on, but why exactly?
It means exactly that,
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 3:00 pm +0200 Francis Segond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You mean TheBat as a new operating system? Great, I wanted to switch
to Linux, but I'll wait then! ;-)
Brilliant idea. Reformat, install just The Bat and it does it all, never
have to buy another software
Greetings BatPeople,
Friday, June 24, 2005, 9:49:44 AM, Tony wrote:
T --On Friday, June 24, 2005 1:44 pm +0200 Krzysztof Kudlacik
T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
... on and on ...
T I'd like to add something to the wish list if I may, photo and graphic
T editing. I
Het was op vrijdag 24 juni 2005 om 16:15 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'A
little roadmap' :
Hallo Tony,
You mean TheBat as a new operating system? Great, I wanted to switch
to Linux, but I'll wait then! ;-)
TB Brilliant idea. Reformat, install just The Bat and it does it all, never
TB
- HTML editor improvements
Will that incorporate a switch to a graphics library (GDI+) that supports
decent scaling for pictures?
--
With best regards
Lars Sölter
The Bat! Version 3.5.28
Windows 2000 / Service Pack 4 (Build 2195)
This is an EMAIL client, not a news reader
That said, with the help of a small plugin TB does quite a good job of
being a newsreader.
I for one like to use TB for these quite similar messaging tasks.
Further I use TB for collecting my RSS subscriptions too; another
messaging task.
Don't
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 9:26 am -0400 Wolffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is a dedicated product for drafting, sending, receiving and
sorting email.
Exactly, without doubt, 100% exactly what I said. It's an email client, not
a bloody news reader.
I realize Tony was probably being
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 3:28 pm +0200 Cees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just bought a second-hand Apple G3/233
Somehow Mac OS feels more secure than Bat OS
Beat ya, mine a G3/500 :)
What's the comparison between Mac speed and PC speed? This only seems
marginally slower than my 2.4
Hello Tony,
On Friday, June 24, 2005 at 3:49:44 PM Tony [TB] wrote:
TB --On Friday, June 24, 2005 1:44 pm +0200 Krzysztof Kudlacik
TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
NNTP!
... on and on ...
TB I'd like to add something to the wish list if I may, photo and graphic
TB editing. I
--On 24/06/2005 17:09 +0200 Peter wrote:
*pah* go playing somewhere else! If you want an all-in-one MTA that's
capable of photo editing and some more and behaves like an OS: write
your own
No, Tony's right. We need the ability to display movie images of posters in
TB, plus the ability to
Hello Clive!
On Friday, June 24, 2005, 10:31 AM, you wrote:
*pah* go playing somewhere else! If you want an all-in-one MTA that's
capable of photo editing and some more and behaves like an OS: write
your own
No, Tony's right. We need the ability to display movie images of posters in
TB,
Hello Clive,
On Friday, June 24, 2005 at 5:31:56 PM Clive [CT] wrote:
CT --On 24/06/2005 17:09 +0200 Peter wrote:
*pah* go playing somewhere else! If you want an all-in-one MTA that's
capable of photo editing and some more and behaves like an OS: write
your own
CT No, Tony's right. We need
--On 24/06/2005 17:39 +0200 Peter wrote:
Don't know IncrediMail with all it's facets, but I guess that's not
implemented yet ... File a wish to them ;-)
Surely Ritlabs can produce a better programme than Incredimail. After all,
in just one weekend 9val managed to incorporate those picture
Hello Tony,
Friday, June 24, 2005, 4:15:16 PM, you wrote:
TB Brilliant idea. Reformat, install just The Bat and it does it all, never
TB have to buy another software application again, great idea Francis
I sincerely hope we will get all of this as a free upgrade!?! :-)
--
Best Wishes,
Mark
9Val,
So, how some testers have already seen, I've returned at the
beginning of the week. It took a long time to read all messages :-)
Good to see your smiling face.
We are taking course to not-fixed-date releases, which means no
deadlines and no rush. Only approved by
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 4:31 pm +0100 Clive Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
No, Tony's right. We need the ability to display movie images of posters
in TB, plus the ability to attach sound files so that we can hear them
speak their messages. Oh, and a little animated globe in the corner
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 10:38 am -0500 Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Everyone seems to be forgetting to include Smell-A-Vision here, too!
I'd rather not have that given how hot it's been lately :)
--
Tony
iMac
Current
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 4:31 pm +0100 Clive Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Oh, and a little animated globe in the corner of the message window that
gradually zooms in to the poster's location.
Most of us have that already, you can get it here...
http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/
Hello Tony!
On Friday, June 24, 2005, 11:56 AM, you wrote:
Everyone seems to be forgetting to include Smell-A-Vision here, too!
I'd rather not have that given how hot it's been lately :)
Okay, it could be an option, not default? ;)
--
Best regards,
Mary
The Bat 3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1
Hello Mark,
A reminder of what Mark Partous on TBBETA typed on:
24 June 2005 at 17:57:29 GMT +0200
I sincerely hope we will get all of this as a free upgrade!?! :-)
Of course, as long as it remains in the V3.x.x cycle. I'd expect to pay a
small upgrade fee for v4 though :)
--
Tony.
Hello Gleason,
A reminder of what Gleason Pace on TBBETA typed on:
24 June 2005 at 09:11:25 GMT -0700
I noticed the responses so far reflect not too much complaining, and
some joking around. It sounds like the list mostly approves.
No, it sounds mostly like Deja Moo.
--
Tony.
Using
Hello Mary,
A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on:
24 June 2005 at 12:01:12 GMT -0500
Okay, it could be an option, not default? ;)
And you said I was good at funny comments :)
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 Windows XP Home SP2
Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop.
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 1:52 PM +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, there are a lot fixes. But current build is not yet ready for
public, do you want to start another rush session?
sure, why not? ;) it would give an excuse for a new round of bash all
those bums in Moldavia.
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 2:15 PM + Tony Boom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean TheBat as a new operating system? Great, I wanted to switch
to Linux, but I'll wait then! ;-)
Brilliant idea. Reformat, install just The Bat and it does it all, never
have to buy another software
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 6:13 PM +0100 Tony Boom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, as long as it remains in the V3.x.x cycle. I'd expect to pay a
small upgrade fee for v4 though :)
Worth every farthing, because it will be able to do the shopping, and
prepare all the meals. 4.5
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 5:56 PM +0100 Tony Boom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone seems to be forgetting to include Smell-A-Vision here, too!
I'd rather not have that given how hot it's been lately :)
we've had enough of that bacon sandwich already
--
Dwight A Corrin
928 S Broadway
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 3:03 pm -0500 Dwight A Corrin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking of taking up homebrewing, maybe it can help with that
too!
I used to make my own wine. Trouble is when it came to siphoning it into
the bottles I kept getting the tube stuck in my mouth
Hello Tony Boom everyone else,
on 24-Jun-2005 at 17:01 you (Tony Boom) wrote:
What's the comparison between Mac speed and PC speed? This only seems
marginally slower than my 2.4 P4.
As if anyone would need 2.4Ghz for word processing, email, browsing the
WWW, or office stuff...
I'm happy
Hello 9Val everyone else,
on 24-Jun-2005 at 11:06 you (9Val) wrote:
- HTML editor improvements
In the HTML range, may I stress that this old issue needs attention, too:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Hi,
9 29.04TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 1
Will this be a complete install package that one can use to
atomatically update the latest release version, without manually
fiddling with icon- and settings files, while still keeping all
personal settings made in the previous version?
Hello MAU,
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M Well, bug or feature I do appreciate your support :) and I hope 9Val is
M listening
As you know I've added my support to this before but there's no harm in
jogging people's memory with such a _very_ important issue, so I'll
Hi Boris,
BA Are you planing to fix all bugs which appeared in this beta cycle (and
BA are known)?
No, it is impossible. Some of them are limitations of new system,
which couldn't be fixed to soon. Some of them are not bugs but
incompatibility with old behaviour.
BA If not, when
Hi MAU,
M Yes, I agree with you and I also appreciate the roadmap. But we must be
M realistic though, the road map is only to the nearest village which is
M just a few miles away ;-)
Do you want to see road map to City of Emeralds ;-)
--
Hi MAU,
M Well, bug or feature I do appreciate your support :) and I hope 9Val is
M listening :)
He is always listening but not always is the wizard ;-)
--
9Val
Hello MAU,
A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
28 April 2005 at 01:04:09 GMT +0200
M ESC is working fine here and AFAIK it has been working fine in al betas.
M I use this quite frequently.
Me too, it works fine, as does ctrl+= for the same purpose.
--
Tony.
Using The Bat!
Hello Boris,
On Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 12:46:13 AM Boris [BA] wrote:
2.05-4.05TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 2
Fix of non-fixed and fix of the bugs created by fixing :-)
BA Are you planing to fix all bugs which appeared in this beta cycle (and
BA are known)? If not, when do
Hello Richard,
As you know I've added my support to this before but there's no harm in
jogging people's memory with such a _very_ important issue, so I'll just
add my wish for it again too.
Thanks for your support :)
I am sure this issue will be addressed sooner or later, we just have to
be
Hello 9Val,
He is always listening but not always is the wizard ;-)
I know you are 9Val. And, as I have just said in another message, I am
sure this issue will be addressed some time in the future and understand
there are higher priority issues right now.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El
Hello 9Val,
Do you want to see road map to City of Emeralds ;-)
Well, maybe just to the next village would be enough at this time ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.9.20 Return on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Hello Tony,
On Thursday, April 28, 2005 you wrote:
Hello MAU,
A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
28 April 2005 at 01:04:09 GMT +0200
M ESC is working fine here and AFAIK it has been working fine in al betas.
M I use this quite frequently.
Me too, it works fine, as does ctrl+=
Hello Krzysztof,
Thursday, April 28, 2005, 6:54:06 AM, you wrote:
Hello MAU,
A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
28 April 2005 at 01:04:09 GMT +0200
M ESC is working fine here and AFAIK it has been working fine in al betas.
M I use this quite frequently.
Me too, it works fine,
Hi All,
Well, as you can see, integration of new GUI system is mostly
finished, so here is a short-time roadmap:
29.04TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 1
It will differ from .20 only with bug fixes and ability to
create/maintain containers in
9Val,
On 27-04-2005 21:27, you [9] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
9 So any input on show-stoppers, most critical and fatal bugs are
9 appreciated.
Do you need the IMAP bugs I have reported to you privately here on the
list, too?
--
greeting Best regards /greeting
author Peter Fjelsten
Hello Peter,
PF Do you need the IMAP bugs I have reported to you privately here on the
PF list, too?
Yes, it will be usefull, more testers - more conditions, more ideas
when it happens and how to reproduce it better.
--
9Val
Hello 9Val everyone else,
thanks for posting the roadmap.
Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it is not
in Peter list as far as I can see. The current thread by reference should
be renamed to thread by reference subject and the old thread by
reference of all
Alexander,
On 27-04-2005 22:56, you [ASK] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ASK Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it
ASK is not in Peter list as far as I can see. The current thread by
ASK reference should be renamed to thread by reference subject and
ASK the old
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005, 3:56:35 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it
is not in Peter list as far as I can see. The current thread by
reference should be renamed to thread by reference subject and
the old thread by reference of
Alexander,
On 27-04-2005 22:56, you [ASK] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ASK Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it
ASK is not in Peter list as far as I can see.
BTW, the View mode: New thread sorting is also broken (new threads are
NOT placed at the bottom if
Hello Alexander,
Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it is not
in Peter list as far as I can see.
Thanks for your support :) It is not in Peter's list because it is not
a bug.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.9.20
Hello MAU,
Wednesday, April 27, 2005, 4:41:27 PM, you wrote:
Hello Alexander,
Most urgently, take care of the threading issue reported by MAU, it is not
in Peter list as far as I can see.
Thanks for your support :) It is not in Peter's list because it is not
a bug.
In all
Hello 9Val,
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 you wrote:
UI: ctrl-clicking a message in virtual folder no longer acts as
follow. The option in context menu works though.
--
/ Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put /
/ www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG
Hello 9Val,
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 you wrote:
UI: ESC key doesn't remove filter in message list. You have
to select View/Display/All messages.
--
/ Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put /
/ www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/
Hello Jonathan,
Thanks for your support :) It is not in Peter's list because it is not
a bug.
In all technicalities... it is ;) The other emails aren't under the
same reference headers, so should not match... that to me makes it a
bug :) I second your request though.
Well, bug or
Hello Krzysztof,
UI: ESC key doesn't remove filter in message list. You have
to select View/Display/All messages.
ESC is working fine here and AFAIK it has been working fine in al betas.
I use this quite frequently.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
Hello Boris,
here is a short-time roadmap:
Thanks very much for this! I (and others) often have requested a roadmap
to know where we are - so thanks for hearing our request.
Yes, I agree with you and I also appreciate the roadmap. But we must be
realistic though, the road map is only to the
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