Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Stefan, thank you for your response :) Monday, June 19, 2023, 6:34:42 PM, you wrote: >> - Is the reaction on right click desired too? My gut tells me: standard >> click yes, right click has already another function and shouldn't trigger >> the standard click response too. > Right click on an attachment should select that attachment, otherwise there > is no point for most menu commands, so it's at least has some logic behind :) > We may rethink this, though we did not see much complains about the current > auto-preview behavior - normally, people either just like it or switch it > off... I see. I like it personally, but would support its limitation to the standard click only. So if there should be any decision making later, this would be my vote... >> - In my case the document is a PDF, which is being viewed in an embedded >> Acrobat Viewer if I'm not mistaken and thus the potential for an exploit >> being launched thru it is not mitigated. > PDF are viewed either using Chromium PDF viewer or (in the single process > mode) they are converted into HTML using the same library we use for Office > documents. In both cases, no Adobe software is used... I see, sorry. It looked to me like the Adobe thing. I was mainly irritated by the fact that an attachment has been displayed that I explicitly wanted to right-click to save and have scanned online first :) -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 10.4.0.1 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Viktor, > - Is the reaction on right click desired too? My gut tells me: standard click > yes, right click has already another function and shouldn't trigger the > standard click response too. Right click on an attachment should select that attachment, otherwise there is no point for most menu commands, so it's at least has some logic behind :) We may rethink this, though we did not see much complains about the current auto-preview behavior - normally, people either just like it or switch it off... > - In my case the document is a PDF, which is being viewed in an embedded > Acrobat Viewer if I'm not mistaken and thus the potential for an exploit > being launched thru it is not mitigated. PDF are viewed either using Chromium PDF viewer or (in the single process mode) they are converted into HTML using the same library we use for Office documents. In both cases, no Adobe software is used... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Stefan, Monday, June 19, 2023, 10:52:45 AM, you wrote: >> BUT: this feature seems to me to have been meant to control the auto-preview >> on *standard click* - the right click does something different and, in my >> opinion, shouldn't trigger the auto-preview at all. Like this, I find it a >> security risk with users launching files they intended to treat with caution. > This was discussed here right after the feature was released. Viewing Office > attachments is safe because the code for conversion them into HTML is built > in, does not run any scripts and protected against buffer underrun and other > vulnerabilities. If a document cannot be displayed withing The Bat!, most > probably it contains an exploit... Thank you for your response. Two things: - Is the reaction on right click desired too? My gut tells me: standard click yes, right click has already another function and shouldn't trigger the standard click response too. - In my case the document is a PDF, which is being viewed in an embedded Acrobat Viewer if I'm not mistaken and thus the potential for an exploit being launched thru it is not mitigated. -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 10.4.0.1 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Viktor, > BUT: this feature seems to me to have been meant to control the auto-preview > on *standard click* - the right click does something different and, in my > opinion, shouldn't trigger the auto-preview at all. Like this, I find it a > security risk with users launching files they intended to treat with caution. This was discussed here right after the feature was released. Viewing Office attachments is safe because the code for conversion them into HTML is built in, does not run any scripts and protected against buffer underrun and other vulnerabilities. If a document cannot be displayed withing The Bat!, most probably it contains an exploit... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Zygmunt, Friday, June 16, 2023, 2:55:20 PM, you wrote: > On Friday, June 16, 2023, at 14:28:57 [UTC+0200] (Friday, June 16, > 2023 14:28 my local time) Viktor Kabelac wrote: >> when I right-click a suspicious PDF attachment in order to save and possibly >> scan it, TheBat!, along with showing the context menu, activates the tab >> with that attachment and displays it in an embedded window. > You can untick the option "Attachment auto-preview" on this context menu and > problem will disappear. That's a good work-around, thank you! BUT: this feature seems to me to have been meant to control the auto-preview on *standard click* - the right click does something different and, in my opinion, shouldn't trigger the auto-preview at all. Like this, I find it a security risk with users launching files they intended to treat with caution. -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:kabe...@rar.cz TheBat! 10.4.0.1 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
On Friday, June 16, 2023, at 14:28:57 [UTC+0200] (Friday, June 16, 2023 14:28 my local time) Viktor Kabelac wrote: > when I right-click a suspicious PDF attachment in order to save and possibly > scan it, TheBat!, along with showing the context menu, activates the tab with > that attachment and displays it in an embedded window. You can untick the option "Attachment auto-preview" on this context menu and problem will disappear. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.4.0.1 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19045 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hi Alexander, Monday, May 29, 2023, 3:45:43 PM: What's new in v10.4 since v10.3.3.16: I'm so sorry, and I don't know why, but this annoying bug is not fixed already a lot of time. The only way to work with TheBAT now - is restart it after each issue and reopen all windows, opened before: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id= -- With best regards, Sergey ( mailto:ad...@dotfix.net )DotFix Software: http://www.dotfixsoft.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023, at 10:28:14 [UTC+0300] (Tuesday, May 30, 2023 09:28 my local time) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> After reverting to 10.3.3.16 this slow response for editor still existed. I >> have decided to reinstall The Bat! from scratch. First, I have made backup >> and then have removed all TB! entries from registry. After fresh >> installation The Bat! editor is responsive again! > This is strange. May be you've switched Pure HTML editor as the default? This > could be the case for a slow start of editor, but it should happen just once > - looks like it enumerates fonts and you probably have a lot of them... No, I have pure text editor as the default. Now, after reinstallation, this problem has disappeared. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.4 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19045 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 access violation errors
Hello Белрус, >>> 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when >>> PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled >> We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a >> configuration-specific thing. > They are here and really annoying. See attached image. What can I do for help > here? Are you need some logs or what? Yes, please send the TheBat_Exceptions.log file directly to me so we don't generate useless traffic here. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 access violation errors
Howdy! >> 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when >> PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled > We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a > configuration-specific thing. They are here and really annoying. See attached image. What can I do for help here? Are you need some logs or what? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Zygmunt, > After reverting to 10.3.3.16 this slow response for editor still existed. I > have decided to reinstall The Bat! from scratch. First, I have made backup > and then have removed all TB! entries from registry. After fresh installation > The Bat! editor is responsive again! This is strange. May be you've switched Pure HTML editor as the default? This could be the case for a slow start of editor, but it should happen just once - looks like it enumerates fonts and you probably have a lot of them... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
On Monday, May 29, 2023, at 22:01:19 [UTC+0200] (Monday, May 29, 2023 22:01 my local time) Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: > For me it is running, except very long time of waiting for opening message > editor (almost 2 minutes). I will revert to 10.3.3.16. After reverting to 10.3.3.16 this slow response for editor still existed. I have decided to reinstall The Bat! from scratch. First, I have made backup and then have removed all TB! entries from registry. After fresh installation The Bat! editor is responsive again! -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.4 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19045 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
On Monday, May 29, 2023, at 15:15:40 [UTC+0100] (Monday, May 29, 2023 16:15 my local time) Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 29/05/2023 13:45, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: >> 64-bit >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-4.msi > Up and, sadly, still not running for me :-( For me it is running, except very long time of waiting for opening message editor (almost 2 minutes). I will revert to 10.3.3.16. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.4 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19045 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 internal viewer PDF
Howdy! > 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when > PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled >> We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a >> configuration-specific thing. >> PDF is now available for viewing in the single process mode, it is just >> presented as an MS Office document (like DOC/DOCX) >> Stefan Tanurkov Single CEF shows PDF's now with internal viewer. And WOW - PDF's are dark. Darth Vader power is here! Thanks! Will check on these days about access violation errors. + Wait google calendar fixes. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Marck, >Up and, sadly, still not running for me :-( Did you try the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line parameter? it logs startup sequence into ex_log.txt in the mail directory. Please try to run The Bat! with this parameter and send the log to me. It's a weird one... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Белрус, 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a configuration-specific thing. PDF is now available for viewing in the single process mode, it is just presented as an MS Office document (like DOC/DOCX) 2) Is Any fixes added to watch google calendar with all events from all "branches"? Is button "manual sync" for google calendar added? Those are not fixes, it's another piece of functionality that must be implemented one day. :) -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
On 29/05/2023 13:45, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: 64-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-4.msi Up and, sadly, still not running for me :-( -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user OpenPGP_0x39E424AB929DCDA0.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Alexander, Monday, May 29, 2023, 3:45:43 PM, you wrote: > What's new in v10.4 since v10.3.3.16: > [-] Missing indication on the current message format - plain text or HTML > [-] "Paste as plain text" doesn't work both in RichText and in PureHTML > [-] "Invalid image. Error" upon replying to messages with certain image files > [-] RichText includes the background color in HTML-messages depending on the > interface theme 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled 2) Is Any fixes added to watch google calendar with all events from all "branches"? Is button "manual sync" for google calendar added? -- Best regards, Георгий, Белрус 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
