Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-11 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, August 11, 2011, 12:59:31 AM, you wrote:

 We can make a registry option for you if you wish to not complicate
 the user interface.

That's great. What I thought is a command line parameter to enable hidden
preference section just like submission form. But registry option is better. It
makes UI concise.

-- 
Best regards,
 Miles Changmailto:drift...@gmx.com
Translator of Chinese The Bat!  AntispamSniper
Agent: The Bat! v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA)
Plugins: AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4  MyMacros 1.11a
Platform: Windows XP (v5.1.2600, Service Pack 3) with AVG 2011 (v10.0.x)



 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-10 Thread Zann
Thank you for the answer, Maxim.

 The question remains: why using custom date format specified as 'MM/dd/yy'
 shows both date and time?

MM We can make an option (checkbox) to not add time to date, should we? It may
MM add complexity to an already big number of options.

It looks like you already did - in 5.0.22.27 - hats off to you!

I still don't quite understand why not using a custom format string to cover 
all possibilities, instead of cluttering the dialog with check boxes and such. 
,  dd,  replicates long, M/d/ - short (both with no time), 
while M/d/, hh:mm tt would display short date with 12:19 AM separated 
by a comma, and so on.

Doing it this way will eliminate most of the controls on the dialog (and, quite 
likely, will simplify the logic in the code), providing more options at the 
same time. Such a string would need to be specified three times, provided the 
user will want to display this week's and today's messages differently, and 
that's all.

But then again, I am sure you have reasons to do things the way you do it now. 
From my user's perspective - I am very happy with how things are in 5.0.22.27, 
so I should not be complaining! :)

Now if only you could fix Replied and Forwarded flags being applied prematurely 
bug and fix the controls in Column settings!

Thank you,
-Zann



 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-10 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, August 10, 2011, 12:52:47 AM, you wrote:

 That's a correct observation, but we try to keep user interface as simple as
 possible, we are relucatant to add yet another language selection combo-box.
 Maybe the current choise between Windows language and The Bat! language be
 sufficient?

Yes, it's sufficient for average people. How about making it an advanced option
for diehard TB users?

-- 
Best regards,
 Miles Changmailto:drift...@gmx.com
Translator of Chinese The Bat!  AntispamSniper
Using The Bat! v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) with AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4  MyMacros 1.11a
on Windows XP (v5.1.2600, Service Pack 3)



 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-10 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Miles,

Wednesday, August 10, 2011, 7:18:01 PM, you wrote:

MC Yes, it's sufficient for average people. How about making it an advanced 
option
MC for diehard TB users?

We can make a registry option for you if you wish to not complicate
the user interface.

-- 
Best regards,
 Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com



 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-09 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Zann,

Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 5:44:19 AM, you wrote:

 The question remains: why using custom date format specified as 'MM/dd/yy'
 shows both date and time?

Windows  have different API calls to format date and time:

GetDateFormat http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd318086%28v=VS.85%29.aspx
GetTimeFormat http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd318130%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

And The Bat! calls them both sequentially and combines the output.

Previously  The  Bat! didn't call Windows API functions and that's why it was
possible to not display time.

We   can make an option (checkbox) to not add time to date, should we? It may
add complexity to an already big number of options.

-- 
Best regards,
 Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com



 Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-09 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim,

Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:32:41 PM, you wrote:

 What's new in 5.0.22.6 since 5.0.22.5:
 [+] An option to specify time format
 for the message list in the Preferences dialog. Now the time format by default
 fits time format used in previous version of The Bat!

Since TB can switch datetime language on the fly, why not give us a pull down
menu to specify the datetime language(whose default value is TB UI language)
instead of reading it from TB UI?

IMHO, that implementation would have maximum flexibility. Imaging following
scenario:

I work on Japanese OS, my TB UI is Chinese(Simplified), I want to show datetime
in English. I cannot change regionlocale setting because it might interfere
other programs...

-- 
Best regards,
 Miles Changmailto:drift...@gmx.com
Translator of Chinese The Bat!  AntispamSniper
Using The Bat! v5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) with AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4  MyMacros 1.11a
on Windows XP (v5.1.2600, Service Pack 3)



 Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-09 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Miles,

Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 7:07:52 PM, you wrote:

 Since TB can switch datetime language on the fly, why not give us a pull down
 menu to specify the datetime language(whose default value is TB UI language)
 instead of reading it from TB UI?

That's  a correct observation, but we try to keep user interface as simple as
possible,  we are relucatant to add yet another language selection combo-box.
Maybe  the  current  choise between Windows language and The Bat! language be
sufficient?

-- 
Best regards,
 Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com



 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-08 Thread Vilius Ĺ umskas
Sveiki,

Monday, August 8, 2011, 6:32:41 PM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50226.rar

 What's new in 5.0.22.6 since 5.0.22.5:
 [+] An option to specify time format for the message list in the
 Preferences dialog. Now the time format by default fits time format
 used in previous version of The Bat!

Works   fine.   One  small  note: Force 24hours format should not be
needed  now, because time format must be taken from regional settings.
For  some  reason,  even  if  I have 24hours configured in my regional
settings,  and  The  Bat!  is  configured to take language/format from
regional settings I have to force it to display 24hours.

-- 
Best regards,
 Vilius



 Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 5.0.22.6

2011-08-08 Thread Zann
Hello Maxim,

MM What's new in 5.0.22.6 since 5.0.22.5:
MM [+] An option to specify time format for the message list in the 
Preferences dialog. Now the time format by default fits time format used in 
previous version of The Bat!

The question remains: why using custom date format specified as 'MM/dd/yy' 
shows both date and time? Inability to hide time is a major downgrade from the 
old options to be  able to ... display date and time using different formats 
for convenience of reading the message list (quotation is from the old 
Date/Time Format dialog). By the way, 'Day, Month, Year, and Era Format 
Pictures' article on MSDN The Bat! opens on clicking Help in the new dialog 
says nothing about time - so why 'MM/dd/yy' ends up displaying time as well?

With hope,
-Zann



 Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html