Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello mse! It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. You also might want to try what happens when you switch from S/MIME internal implementation to MS Crypto API. Maybe there's a change in behavior that could help. I tried but no certificate was found. Not surprise because I downloaded the certificates via Firefox, they never were installed in Windows. I might try this during the weekend. But the internal impementation should work - which also makes more sense that the MS Crypto API when using TheBat from a different computer from time to time. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Martin, when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. The friend I was talking about upgraded from 4.1.11 to 4.2.16 Final right now. Before, signed mails from him were fine in Squirrelmail and everywhere else, now signed mails from him are broken as my mails. Inside TheBat the mails look fine. Interesting is, that my mails, which were shown as invalid with a red cross in my friends 4.1.11 TheBat are now shown as valid in the 4.2.16 Final version. I have Version 4.2.18 running on my machine. I installed the required certificates from the website and now your mail appears as properly signed and valid. I'm afraid, I can't help you; here everything looks fine. -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello mse! when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. The friend I was talking about upgraded from 4.1.11 to 4.2.16 Final right now. Before, signed mails from him were fine in Squirrelmail and everywhere else, now signed mails from him are broken as my mails. Inside TheBat the mails look fine. Interesting is, that my mails, which were shown as invalid with a red cross in my friends 4.1.11 TheBat are now shown as valid in the 4.2.16 Final version. I have Version 4.2.18 running on my machine. I installed the required certificates from the website and now your mail appears as properly signed and valid. I'm afraid, I can't help you; here everything looks fine. Yes, everything looks fine INSIDE TheBat and when sending mails from one TheBat to another TheBat. The fun starts when you try to verify the signatures with another mailer than TheBat, e.g. Squirrelmail, Thunderbird or something else. There the signature is broken and invalid. This was not the case with older TheBat versions so something was changed and screwed up the signature thing. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
On Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 16:20 Martin Sebald [MS] wrote: MS The fun starts when you try to verify the signatures with another mailer MS than TheBat, e.g. Squirrelmail, Thunderbird or something else. It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition; ; AJS v0.0; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hi Maurice! The fun starts when you try to verify the signatures with another mailer than TheBat, e.g. Squirrelmail, Thunderbird or something else. It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. Well, could be that some clients don't handle 2048 bit certificates. But when I tested the scenario with a friend of mine he sent me a testmail with TheBat 4.1.11 and his fancy brand new StartSSL 2048 bit certificate. The certificate was valid in my TheBat 4.2.16, Squirrelmail, a linux mail client and also in Thunderbird. After he upgraded his TheBat installation to 4.2.16 as well, mails signed with the same certificate (nothing was changed in the configuration, just upgraded to the then most recent version) were only valid in TheBat, not in any other mail client software. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Maurice, It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. You also might want to try what happens when you switch from S/MIME internal implementation to MS Crypto API. Maybe there's a change in behavior that could help. -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello all, problem still exists in 4.2.18... ...and obviously nobody cares... ...as always, adding new fancy features is more important than fixing stuff which already worked before... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello all, Wednesday, January 6, 2010, Martin Sebald wrote: Hello all, problem still exists in 4.2.18... ...and obviously nobody cares... ...as always, adding new fancy features is more important than fixing stuff which already worked before... christmas editions have more than 80 bugfixes, what new fancy features are You talking about? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Marek! problem still exists in 4.2.18... ...and obviously nobody cares... ...as always, adding new fancy features is more important than fixing stuff which already worked before... christmas editions have more than 80 bugfixes, what new fancy features are You talking about? I'm talking about the usual way many bugs are treated comparing to adding new features. We had this discussion many times here in the beta list. Usually I would not be concerned that a bug is not fixed after some days. But with these discussions in the past and that just nobody replied or commented this bug concernes me that there will be a long waiting time until something happens. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
On Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 03:45 Martin Sebald wrote: This message should be signed, too. Does someone else has the same problem or can say more about this? It is signed, but my TB! as well as all those other clients don't have the root and intermediate certificates that were used to sign your personal certificate. As you probably have your TB! on the machine where you requested and installed your certificate, the import process will likely have added those to your configuration. But that does this for TB! and possibly the browser that was used to fetch the certificate only. You will need to at least have the root and intermediate certificates installed into the other programs before they will recognize your certificate as valid. Also, this may pose a problem with recipients such as us. In order to to be able to verify your certificate, everyone that receives mail from you needs to install two CA certificates, including one root-certificate an therefore everyone also needs to decide whether they trust the organization that you decided to get your certificate from. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 The Bat! v4.2.16 Christmas Edition; ; AJS v65535.65535; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 4.2.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Maurice, I know that the certificate only appears valid when the root and intermediate certificates are there. The problem here is that it seems that there is some kind of message format error. If the message format was ok, the signature would show as not valid. But the mail client would be able to read the signature. In my case the mail is somehow broken, at least for Squirrelmail and this Linux mail client I mentioned in my first mail. Can someone confirm my problems? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.14.7 RC2 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello all, when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. Has anybody an idea what is going on? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: Screenshot_PKCS_Error.jpg smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello again, ok, it's a issue with the current TheBat! version. when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. The friend I was talking about upgraded from 4.1.11 to 4.2.16 Final right now. Before, signed mails from him were fine in Squirrelmail and everywhere else, now signed mails from him are broken as my mails. Inside TheBat the mails look fine. Interesting is, that my mails, which were shown as invalid with a red cross in my friends 4.1.11 TheBat are now shown as valid in the 4.2.16 Final version. Problem is now reported here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
