Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Martin, >> However, there are other messages,likeMartin's >>that I don't get on >> Gmane. Go figure! > > This is strange. It certainly is. I also did not get (on Gmane) the one I am replying to now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 8.5.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Marck, > This was the last post on this list. As moderator, I have to give it a > probe to see if it still functioning after the latest configuration > issues. Apologies for the white noise. I still don't get Maxim's messages to the list. If I want to see them, I have to get them via Gmane. However, there are other messages,likeMartin's that I don't get on Gmane. Go figure! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Current beta is 8.5.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Marck, On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:32:10 +0100 GMT (13-Aug-18, 21:32 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 08 August 2018 at 09:04 Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote and made these > points > ... ZW>> Confirmed, it is fixed. > This was the last post on this list. As moderator, I have to give it a > probe to see if it still functioning after the latest configuration > issues. Apologies for the white noise. Received. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 8.5.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
On 08 August 2018 at 09:04 Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote and made these points ... ZW> Confirmed, it is fixed. This was the last post on this list. As moderator, I have to give it a probe to see if it still functioning after the latest configuration issues. Apologies for the white noise. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgpvfK8WOvZ57.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Marck, > White-listing thebat.dutaint.com may get round this. OK, I think I did so. Will see next time Max sends a message, -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
On 07 August 2018 at 20:51 Lüko Willms wrote and made these points ... >> We don't have access to the list server to be able to inject (or >> remove) headers as things stand. ... LW> I just had to click something in the admin interface to LW> my webspace and copy-n-past some text from somewhere else, ... To clarify: We don't have access to the list server to be able to inject (or remove) ANY headers or settings to control anything like this as things stand. All we have is a web interface to the listman administration for the list and nothing else. Until we can re-host the list, this is the situation. I have tried repeatedly to contact the server admin in Germany, who donated use of the server for list hosting years ago and no longer responds to emails. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgp4n8v9InFlF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello everybody, on Dienstag, 7. August 2018 at 19:00 Marck Pearlstone wrote re The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) LW>> My Web and Mail provider has told me that the solution for Gmail is not DKIM, but SPF. LW>> LW>> My correspondent in the USA who did not get my mails after LW>> having moved to Google Mail, put my address in his White List, and I got SPF for may domains. LW>> LW>> After that it worked like charm. > We don't have access to the list server to be able to inject (or > remove) headers as things stand. SPF or Sender Policy Framework in full, is, as far as I understand, not something which the eMail client or mailing list processor has to included as some header field in outgoing messages. I just had to click something in the admin interface to my webspace and copy-n-past some text from somewhere else, following the instructions I had been given by the support people at the web space and email provider[1], and off it went. For more information see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework This is the introduction to the en.Wikipedia article on SPF: > Sender Policy Framework (SPF) is an email validation protocol > designed to detect and block email spoofing by providing a mechanism to allow > receiving mail exchangers > to verify that incoming mail from a domain comes from an IP Address > authorized by that domain's administrators. > The list of authorized sending hosts and IP addresses for a domain > is published in the Domain Name System (DNS) records for that domain > in the form of a specially formatted TXT record. > Email spam and phishing often use forged "from" addresses and domains, > so publishing and checking SPF records can be considered > one of the most reliable and simple to use anti-spam techniques. > > IETF publication RFC 7208 dated April 2014 defines Sender Policy Framework as > "proposed standard". Cheers, Lüko Willms Frankfurt am Main Germany 6 1 Windows 7 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, August 7, 2018, 11:08:05 AM, you wrote: MM> The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) is available at MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-64.rar U But did require reboot to copy new file over earlier version. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows v10 17134 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
On 07 August 2018 at 19:07 MAU wrote and made these points >> Max's messages include a DKIM signature, which effectively marks list >> traffic as spam, since the sending domain fails to match the domain >> certified in the DKIM signature. M> But if traffic is marked as spam, why his messages don't end up in my M> Gmail account Spam folder? In the case of a DKIM failure, some servers (Max tells me) actually reject the message. That would mean that you wouldn't find it in a spam folder. White-listing thebat.dutaint.com may get round this. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgpnixVu2VL9V.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Lüko, > Any idea why I have not received Maxim's message? I have looked in > Gmail's spam folder and it is not there. > > Get the SENDER tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com in your white list on gmail. I don't see any way of white listing. Anyway, if this was the problem, why messages don't show in Spam folder. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Marck, M>> Any idea why I have not received Maxim's message? I have looked in M>> Gmail's spam folder and it is not there. > > Could it be that you are one of the recipients affected by the > addressing issues that we tried to combat with the change to the list > configuration? I don't know :-( > Max's messages include a DKIM signature, which effectively marks list > traffic as spam, since the sending domain fails to match the domain > certified in the DKIM signature. But if traffic is marked as spam, why his messages don't end up in my Gmail account Spam folder? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
On 07 August 2018 at 17:58 Lüko Willms wrote and made these points ... >> H this makes me think that if we can get the list server to >> strip the DKIM header, the issue would be resolved without >> compromising the configuration of the list... LW> My Web and Mail provider has told me that the solution for Gmail is not DKIM, but SPF. LW> LW> My correspondent in the USA who did not get my mails after LW> having moved to Google Mail, put my address in his White List, and I got SPF for may domains. LW> LW> After that it worked like charm. We don't have access to the list server to be able to inject (or remove) headers as things stand. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgpr4KguYJxX3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Guten Tag, Marck Pearlstone, am Dienstag, 7. August 2018 um 18:07 schrieben Sie: > Max's messages include a DKIM signature, which effectively marks list > traffic as spam, since the sending domain fails to match the domain > certified in the DKIM signature. > H this makes me think that if we can get the list server to > strip the DKIM header, the issue would be resolved without > compromising the configuration of the list... My Web and Mail provider has told me that the solution for Gmail is not DKIM, but SPF. My correspondent in the USA who did not get my mails after having moved to Google Mail, put my address in his White List, and I got SPF for may domains. After that it worked like charm. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Guten Tag, MAU, am Dienstag, 7. August 2018 um 17:43 schrieben Sie: > Any idea why I have not received Maxim's message? I have looked in > Gmail's spam folder and it is not there. Get the SENDER tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com in your white list on gmail. For Dutaint.com -- does that have a SPF record? If not, get one. Maybe a separate one for thebat.dutaint.com That solved the problem mailing to Google mail for me. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Maxim, U Thank you! -- Best regards, Curt Akin using TheBat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) under Windows 10.0 Build 17074 with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet. Web sites always hosted by TurnkeyInternet.net Tuesday, August 7, 2018, 11:08:05 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-64.rar Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
MM>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-32.rar MM>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-64.rar M> Any idea why I have not received Maxim's message? I have looked in M> Gmail's spam folder and it is not there. Could it be that you are one of the recipients affected by the addressing issues that we tried to combat with the change to the list configuration? Max's messages include a DKIM signature, which effectively marks list traffic as spam, since the sending domain fails to match the domain certified in the DKIM signature. H this makes me think that if we can get the list server to strip the DKIM header, the issue would be resolved without compromising the configuration of the list... -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgpUX0IzMR8Nu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
Hello Marck, > On 07 August 2018 at 16:08 Maxim Masiutin wrote and made these points > MM>> The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) is available at MM>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-32.rar MM>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-64.rar Any idea why I have not received Maxim's message? I have looked in Gmail's spam folder and it is not there. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA)
On 07 August 2018 at 16:08 Maxim Masiutin wrote and made these points MM> The Bat! 8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) is available at MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-32.rar MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8583-64.rar ... U -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 pgpWNQtDtltdL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
