Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-21 Thread Luca
Rick:

  In v.5.0.8.1: 
 drag - doesn't work. 
 shift+drag - drop on a different message - re-thread
 - drop down below, on the empty space - un-thread
 - drop on the same message - disintegrator ray
 
  Former behaviour is to be restored, I think. Even if the disintegrator bug
  were corrected, it's uneasy to unthread a message when the empty space is 
  deep
  down at the end of a long message list.
 
 You are correct - if you drag them up or down they WILL unthread. 

If I _shift_drag them up they will re-thread, here. They un-thread only if I
shift-drag them down on the empty space after the last message in the list.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-20 Thread Luca
Rick:

 copy a few messages to a temporary folder. Thread them. Now try to break the 
 thread 
 and watch what happens to the lower message - IT DISAPPEARS

How do you break the thread? I can see messages disappear only if I shift-drag
a message on itself (it doesn't even have to be threaded, it happens with a
single message too). To unthread a message or a subthread, I shift-drag the
message down below the last message of the list, on the empty space of the
message list pane. It un-threads correctly. 

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-20 Thread Rick
 Rick:

 copy a few messages to a temporary folder. Thread them. Now try to break the 
 thread 
 and watch what happens to the lower message - IT DISAPPEARS

 How do you break the thread? I can see messages disappear only if I shift-drag
 a message on itself (it doesn't even have to be threaded, it happens with a
 single message too). To unthread a message or a subthread, I shift-drag the
 message down below the last message of the list, on the empty space of the
 message list pane. It un-threads correctly. 

Shift dragging to the left and off the messages SHOULD break the threading.

Instead of now having 2 unthreaded messages, one of them vanishes

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-20 Thread Luca

Rick:

  Rick:
 
  copy a few messages to a temporary folder. Thread them. Now try to break 
  the thread 
  and watch what happens to the lower message - IT DISAPPEARS
 
  How do you break the thread? I can see messages disappear only if I 
  shift-drag
  a message on itself (it doesn't even have to be threaded, it happens with a
  single message too). To unthread a message or a subthread, I shift-drag the
  message down below the last message of the list, on the empty space of the
  message list pane. It un-threads correctly. 
 
 Shift dragging to the left and off the messages SHOULD break the threading.
 
 Instead of now having 2 unthreaded messages, one of them vanishes

Ok, I realize now the full picture: 

In v.4.x: 
drag - re-thread (and you can't drop a message on itself). 
shift+drag - un-thread (no matter where you drop the message).

In v.5.0.8.1: 
drag - doesn't work. 
shift+drag - drop on a different message - re-thread
   - drop down below, on the empty space - un-thread
   - drop on the same message - disintegrator ray

Former behaviour is to be restored, I think. Even if the disintegrator bug
were corrected, it's uneasy to unthread a message when the empty space is deep
down at the end of a long message list.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-20 Thread Rick
 In v.5.0.8.1: 
drag - doesn't work. 
shift+drag - drop on a different message - re-thread
- drop down below, on the empty space - un-thread
- drop on the same message - disintegrator ray

 Former behaviour is to be restored, I think. Even if the disintegrator bug
 were corrected, it's uneasy to unthread a message when the empty space is deep
 down at the end of a long message list.

You are correct - if you drag them up or down they WILL unthread. If you drag 
it to the left or toward the tree and it is still near the message when you let 
go, it will destroy the message.

You USED to be able to drag it to the left and have it unthread

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 18 abr 2011 at 15:51, it seems you wrote:

 Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list
 pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps?

Try to rethread a message to himself.

Is there any BT for this bug ???

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Maxim,

up and running.

Rethreading still does not work (wasn't this brought up weeks ago?).

Thread mark as read still does not work correctly. I mentioned this already
two times... It works when you only mark unread threads (which means the
first message has to be unread). But it does not work when you first mark a
read thread and then several unread threads.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread Jay Walker
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Rick rick.grunwald.groupm...@gmail.com wrote:

 That error when trying to associate file types with the Bat when loading 
 should really be fixed. That is not a good one for new users

 ---
 Configure file  protocol handling
 ---
 Some of extensions/protocols could not be associated.
 It is possible you do not have access rights to do that or
 some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to associate with:

 .EML  (message files in RFC-822 format)
 ---

Not just new users. It is very irritating for some old users as well.
I am a case in point. And one other thing that irritates me greatly
are the huge tool tips every time I click Receive Mail or Send Mail. I
don't find any way to disable them or to make them smaller as they
used to be.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread NetVicious
martes, 19 abr 2011 at 12:11, it seems you wrote:

 Rethreading still does not work (wasn't this brought up weeks ago?).

Ritlabs  changed the way to rethread. You need to press Shift key when
you want to re-thread.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread Rick
 martes, 19 abr 2011 at 12:11, it seems you wrote:

 Rethreading still does not work (wasn't this brought up weeks ago?).

 Ritlabs  changed the way to rethread. You need to press Shift key when
 you want to re-thread.

copy a few messages to a temporary folder. Thread them. Now try to break the 
thread and watch what happens to the lower message - IT DISAPPEARS

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-19 Thread NetVicious
miércoles, 20 abr 2011 at 00:55, it seems you wrote:

 copy a few messages to a temporary folder. Thread them. Now try to
 break the thread and watch what happens to the lower message - IT DISAPPEARS

Yes, I know. I asked if someone created a BT for it. I see it when you 
rethread one message to himself.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Maxim,
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, at 20:38:42 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:38 where I live) 
you wrote about: 'The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)'

 [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not 
 functional

Tnis is still not quite right.
See image:


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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread Luca
Rick:

  Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the
  executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5
  everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of 
  times.
 
 You might want to add a note to the item in bug tracker that it is still 
 broken in this release
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542

Ehm... I did, and Tanurkov just answered:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542#c25975
| Re-threading works only if you press and hold the Shift key while dragging. 
| It was so for quite a while AFAIR... 

Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of the
blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like I've
been tricked :)

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread Rick
 Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of the
 blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like I've
 been tricked :)

Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will 
disappear

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread Luca
Rick:

  Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of 
  the
  blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like 
  I've
  been tricked :)
 
 Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will 
 disappear

Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list
pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps?

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread Luca
Luca:

 Rick:
 
   Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of 
   the
   blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like 
   I've
   been tricked :)
  
  Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will 
  disappear
 
 Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list
 pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps?

No, wait, it can disappear, when you try to re-thread a message on itself:
shift+drag a message and drop it on its own line, you're asked if you want to
re-thread it, answer yes, it disappear. Nasty.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-18 Thread F.P.
Hi,

The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

[-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically

Cannot confirm. TB filters only one message with the matching filter,
the rest stay in Inbox. try to make a ReFilter - still filters out
one messages.
Latest version where that Refilter works: *.138

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The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8:
[-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not 
functional
[-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages
[-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, 
messages still were marked as read 
[-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions
[-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't 
working properly
[-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically
[-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view
[-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the Finder's 
message list
[-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in 
Microed
[-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by 
default in all folders
[-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in 
non-MIME format
[-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping 



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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim,

Sunday, April 17, 2011, 11:38:42 AM, you wrote:

MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

Running  well for me so far in Gmail's IMAP system.  However, my input
must  be  understood  as  coming from a non-expert user who pushes the
limits of TB.

Now,  hopefully  you'll be able to rest at home this evening (now - in
your time zone; here it is only a bit after noon).

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Rick
 The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

 What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8:
 [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not 
 functional
 [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages
 [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were
 switched off, messages still were marked as read 
 [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions
 [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't 
 working properly
 [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically
 [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view
 [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the 
 Finder's message list
 [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in 
 Microed
 [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by 
 default in all folders
 [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in 
 non-MIME format
 [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping 




That error when trying to associate file types with the Bat when loading should 
really be fixed. That is not a good one for new users

---
Configure file  protocol handling
---
Some of extensions/protocols could not be associated.
It is possible you do not have access rights to do that or
some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to associate with:

.EML  (message files in RFC-822 format)
---
OK   
---

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, April 17, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is
really crazy!

 [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were
 switched off, messages still were marked as read 

confirm as fixed

 [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in 
 Microed

confirm as fixed

 [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in 
 non-MIME format

confirm as fixed

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Rick
 The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

 What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8:

 [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages

FIXED! Thank you!

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello,

Sunday, April 17, 2011 at 19:38:42, Maxim wrote :
MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar

... and graphic smileys are back :)

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Re:The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Ron Secord
On Sunday, April 17, 2011 Marek Mikus, [MM] wrote:

snipped a bit
 First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is
 really crazy!

Confirmed here

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Luca
Maxim Masiutin:

 The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar
 
 What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8:
 [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not 
 functional
 [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages
 [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched 
 off, messages still were marked as read 
 [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions
 [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't 
 working properly
 [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically
 [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view
 [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the 
 Finder's message list
 [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in 
 Microed
 [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by 
 default in all folders
 [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in 
 non-MIME format
 [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping 

Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the
executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5
everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of times.

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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Rick
 Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the
 executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5
 everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of times.

You might want to add a note to the item in bug tracker that it is still broken 
in this release
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542


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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Maxim,

Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:38:42 PM, you wrote:
MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar
UR
MM [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically
Seems to be working
MM [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in 
non-MIME format
Seems fixed.

Not fixed:
1) Open address book focuses on Search results rather than Personal
Address Book.

2)  CTL  +  DEL  permanently  deletes  messages in a folder instead of
moving  them  to trash. THIS IS A SERIOUS CHANGE IN FEATURES AND NEEDS
TO BE CORRECTED!
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Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)

2011-04-17 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi Marek

On Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:31:45 PM you wrote:

 First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is
 really crazy!

Can't confirm over here.

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