Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-15 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Friday, August 11, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Communication between mail clients and external editors: SL> Oh, it is more than justifiable. I downloaded it and boy did the SL> problems come flooding in. First off, default

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 5:03:19 AM, Soth wrote: > I don't believe that's a justifiable claim. Oh, it is more than justifiable. I downloaded it and boy did the problems come flooding in. First off, default colors were completely unacceptable. W

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 5:03:19 AM, Soth wrote: > Although superficially valid, after all they are all email clients, the > difference between TB! and, for example, Outlook is significant. As Right, one email client does a decent job at IMAP and

Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Soth
>> Then why were you so eager to term it "another notepad wannabe"? > Because most, if not all, ASCII editors on Windows aren't much above that > level. I've taken a look at UltraEdit and wasn't impressed by it in the > least. Same stuff, different programmer I don't believe that's a justi

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 3:40:39 AM, Soth wrote: > Then why were you so eager to term it "another notepad wannabe"? Because most, if not all, ASCII editors on Windows aren't much above that level. I've taken a look at UltraEdit and wasn't impres

Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Soth
>> So what exactly is better than UltraEdit? In my opinion and it blows >> Word and Emacs out of the water. > I've never used it. Why should I when I've had joe and vim? Then why were you so eager to term it "another notepad wannabe"? As much as I am a vi fan (it's the only editor I use in

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 11:43:19 PM, Oleg wrote: > It doesn't remain in memory -- it is dumped to swapfile and next time > I will need it it will be ready a bit faster than if started again. It > will be an economy of my time if I use it frequentl

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 11:43:19 PM, Oleg wrote: > It doesn't remain in memory -- it is dumped to swapfile and next time > I will need it it will be ready a bit faster than if started again. It > will be an economy of my time if I use it frequentl

Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, August 10, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Communication between mail clients and external editors: SL> Like I said, a cheap, garden variety notepad wannabe. Get a real editor. SL> Unless you've got Word or Emacs t

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:22:25 PM, Kenneth wrote: > I was thinking that more powerful editors like those you and I use > could implement this as either a core function or in an add-on DLL (.so > for Linux). Stupider editors could rely on a small w

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:44:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >TB! will soon be on Linux. Cool! >Which needs to be defined for each editor. Most editors can't even >implement anything more complex than a simple search and replace correctly. I >doubt they would even begin to consider this. No

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:09 PM, Kenneth wrote: > First, does it need to be cross-platform? Would one run an email client > and editor on different machines? TB! will soon be on Linux. The issue isn't what the user will do, but what the p

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:09:01 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >What other protocol is there that will work across all platforms? Every >other form of direct process control is platform specific. The only things >you can count on are the basics on the OS level. First, does it need to be cross-platform?

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:51:18 AM, Kenneth wrote: > Ideally there should be a standard editor "server protocol" that all > editors should support so that editor-using clients (like mail > composition programs) need not include an editor but can t

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:07:02 -0500, Curtis wrote: >This is the sort of thing I'm referring to Kenneth. Having to close the >editor every time in PMMail is plain awkward. I agree; my editor (an Emacs clone) is pretty quick to start and exit, but I don't want a separate instance to work as a clien

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 7:20:46 AM, Jamie wrote: > So what exactly is better than UltraEdit? In my opinion and it blows > Word and Emacs out of the water. I've never used it. Why should I when I've had joe and vim? - -- Steve C. Lam

Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Jamie Dainton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Steve, Thursday, August 10, 2000, 14:29:25, you wrote: SL> Like I said, a cheap, garden variety notepad wannabe. Get a real editor. SL> Unless you've got Word or Emacs there is /NO/ need for the editor to remain SL> in memory except to s

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:43:00 AM, Oleg wrote: SL>> use are a little more advaced than the garden variety notepad programmed by a SL>> shareware wannabe visual basic programmer? > Because I don't exit my UltraEdit. I just close project with all fi

Re[2]: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, August 10, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Communication between mail clients and external editors: SL> On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:07:02AM -0500, Curtis wrote: >> This is the sort of thing I'm referring to Kenneth. Havin

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:07:02AM -0500, Curtis wrote: > This is the sort of thing I'm referring to Kenneth. Having to close the > editor every time in PMMail is plain awkward. It may be natural to Steve > but it's bad. I'd only put up with it if I really much preferred the > external editor over

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:00:50 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: KP> Another approach is to use a DDE-aware editor. (Epsilon is also one KP> of these.) The client program (eg. TB or PMMail) can send a DDE KP> message to an existing instance of such a program to open a file, KP> and register some kind of

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-09 Thread phil
Greetings Kenneth! On Wednesday, August 09, 2000 at 21:00:50 GMT -0700 (which was 9:00 PM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: KP> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:37:54 -0500, Curtis wrote: I have a problem with it personally. Why can't the send action be made to close the edito

Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-09 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:37:54 -0500, Curtis wrote: >>> I have a problem with it personally. Why can't the send action be made >>> to close the editor? >SL> How is it supposed to? >If I knew I wouldn't be asking. I asked why can't it be done. I'm >actually giving PMMail the benefit of the doubt and