Re: Inbox - Known ??

2010-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Raymund, On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:43:45 +0200 GMT (25/Sep/10, 15:43 PM +0700 GMT), Raymund Tump wrote: >> What's the story with the "Inbox - Known" folder? RT> Well, there should be a Known filter in your sorting office. That RT> would move all messages t

Inbox - Known ??

2010-09-25 Thread Gary Odom
Hi : What's the story with the "Inbox - Known" folder? Thanks. Regards, Gary Odom g...@waterfire.us Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: What is Inbox - Known for?

2006-08-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Peter, On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 you wrote in PM> There is a new version of Voyager, based on The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta. You had me all excited there for a minute until I realised that it's not exactly new and it's the one I have already installed :-( -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.17 RC1.

Re: What is Inbox - Known for?

2006-08-30 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Andrew, on Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:08:58 -0600GMT (30.08.2006, 21:08 +0200GMT here), you wrote: AAD> Mystery solved, thanks! Outside of mail lists most of the mail I get AD> is from known people, so I don't think I'll wind up using it. If AD> Inbox - Known was just a referenc

Re[2]: What is Inbox - Known for?

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Diederich
Hello Chris, Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 7:38:25 PM, you wrote: > Andrew Diederich @ 2006-8-29 8:30:02 PM > "What is Inbox - Known for?" >> I have a folder called "Inbox - Known" in one of my two accounts, >> but nothing is in it. I can't figure out

Re: What is Inbox - Known for?

2006-08-29 Thread Chris W .
Andrew Diederich @ 2006-8-29 8:30:02 PM "What is Inbox - Known for?" > I have a folder called "Inbox - Known" in one of my two accounts, > but nothing is in it. I can't figure out what _should_ be in it, > either. It does look like a system generated folder.

What is Inbox - Known for?

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Diederich
Hello Batfolk, I have a folder called "Inbox - Known" in one of my two accounts, but nothing is in it. I can't figure out what _should_ be in it, either. It does look like a system generated folder. What's it for? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3

Re: Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread Scott A . Moorman
Hello, Sunday, June 11, 2006, 7:48:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I put my cursor on Inbox-Known, and go to Account Properties, the > "Common Folder Properties" comes up. In that Properties box, all I get > are Options, Templates, Memo and Chat. Under Template

Re[2]: Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg
Sunday, June 11, 2006, Robert D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED] foretold : z>> How can I get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation z>> Request? > I believe you can set it in Properties of Inbox-Known : > Templates | Over-ride | Ignor

Re: Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread Robert D.
Generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED] foretold : z> How can I get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation z> Request? I believe you can set it in Properties of Inbox-Known : Templates | Over-ride | Ignore -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3

Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg
Two questions on Inbox-Known: 1. When my cursor in on Inbox-Known and I on New Message, the account that is being used is Account1234, by default. I don't recall setting the account to be used for Inbox-known. Is there a way to set the default account to another account? [I don't kn

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-07 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 4 December 2005 at 9:19:52 PM, in , Roelof Otten wrote: M>> You may find it re-created the next time you start TB! > IIRC that depends on whether the known filter is active or not. Only tried once and it came back. I expect the filter was active because I think I have never alter

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MFPA, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:04:28 +GMT (4-12-2005, 22:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: >> I dont really think of any reason why I would need it anyway. So I >> think Ill just delete it. M> You may find it re-created the next time you start TB! IIRC that depends on whether the known

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-04 Thread Darrin
Hello MFPA, Sunday, December 4, 2005, 1:04:28 PM, you wrote: M> You may find it re-created the next time you start TB! Nope. Didnt show up. -- Darrin Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.6

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-04 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 4 December 2005 at 12:46:39 PM, in , Darrin wrote: > I dont really think of any reason why I would need it anyway. So I > think Ill just delete it. You may find it re-created the next time you start TB! -- Best regards, MFPA We are all in the gutte

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-04 Thread Darrin
Hello Roelof, Sunday, December 4, 2005, 12:30:56 AM, you wrote: RO> My own inbox-known is rarely used for the RO> latter reason, hardly any message from people in my AB gets past my RO> real filters. I dont really think of any reason why I would need it anyway. So I think Ill just

Re: Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-04 Thread Roelof Otten
actually showing up in my inbox-known D> folder. What do you suppose is wrong here? I guess your known filter could be inactive or all messages could be processed by other filters. My own inbox-known is rarely used for the latter reason, hardly any message from people in my AB gets past my

Mail into inbox-known?

2005-12-03 Thread Darrin
Hello friends, In my address book I have some listed in the default personal address book. Others listed in different groups. I dont notice emails from any of the people in my address book actually showing up in my inbox-known folder. What do you suppose is wrong here? -- Darrin Using The Bat

Inbox known - missing from random account

2005-07-31 Thread The Janitor
oomba, then somebody else did; I persevered with Poco. What a waste of a year. Now, I've just gone through my ten accounts and activated the 'inbox - known' filter but on one of those accounts (the third to be stet up) it was missing. Not a great problem - I just created it, but d

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-18 Thread Darrin
Hello Jeff, Saturday, June 18, 2005, 1:18:07 AM, you wrote: > The condition is: > Address Book Contains Sender > Action is: > Move To The Folder (folder name) Great! Thank you much :) -- Best regards, Darrin

Re[2]: Inbox-known

2005-06-18 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello Group On Saturday, June 18, 2005, 3:00:48 AM, Darrin wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Friday, June 17, 2005, 8:22:23 AM, you wrote: >> The fitler should be there by default under the Incoming >> filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. > I checked and nothing. I know ho

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Darrin
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 17, 2005, 8:22:23 AM, you wrote: > The fitler should be there by default under the Incoming > filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I checked and nothing. I know how to re-create the known inbox, but how do I re-create the filter? Thanks -

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 11:23:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DAC>> I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. > Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. I don't know either. Figured the only to learn whether that was because of the differences, or whether it was an oversig

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:50:52 -0500 GMT (17/06/2005, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC> I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chan

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Dwight A Corrin & everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 17:56 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: > sending the send button That button didn't arrive here yet, however... ;-) SCNR! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Dub Angel" (3:49) by

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
nd on further reflection, immediately after sending the send button on last message, notice there is no inbox-known created for that account. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 o

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:22:23 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > The fitler should be there by default under the Incoming > filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. I have created a few local filters for my new IMAP account, s

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Darrin, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:20:24 -0700 GMT (17/06/2005, 09:20 +0700 GMT), Darrin wrote: D> It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is D> no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? The fitler should be there by default under the Incoming f

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
led "" (without the quotes). You are not really missing anything important - I have mine disabled. I created my own called "known" with put messages not with me as a sender (I'm in the address book) AND with the sender in the address book. The actions is to move to Inbox-kn

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-16 Thread Darrin
Hello Bill, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:06:15 PM, you wrote: > If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that > should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? > If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a > sender address that is really in your address book and > the filter i

Re: Inbox-known

2005-06-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Thu 16-Jun-05 8:21pm -0500, Darrin wrote: > I thought that all mail from users in my address book will go into > "inbox-known" automatically. Doesnt seem to work. Is there something > I must do to get this working? What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work?

Inbox-known

2005-06-16 Thread Darrin
Hello TBUDL, I thought that all mail from users in my address book will go into "inbox-known" automatically. Doesnt seem to work. Is there something I must do to get this working? -- Best regards, Darrin Current version

Re: Lost Inbox-Known

2004-07-22 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Paul, On 7/22/2004 12:10 PM my time, Paul wrote: PC> I think if you add a folder called $KNOWN$ PC> that will add it back. PC> when I right-click an accounts inbox-known, the name shows as : PC> $KNOWN$ PC> with the "$" on both sides. That did the trick thanks :

Re: Lost Inbox-Known

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Darrin, DR> Anyone know how to get it back? DR> Thanks I think if you add a folder called $KNOWN$ that will add it back. when I right-click an accounts inbox-known, the name shows as : $KNOWN$ with the "$" on both sides. -- Bes

Lost Inbox-Known

2004-07-22 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello, Anyone know how to get it back? Thanks -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpdGJieGYy2z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInf

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-22 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Marck, MDP> There is no definitive list that I know of. We'll have to beg for a MDP> straight answer from one of the programmers. Maybe we should ask on MDP> TBBETA? The list is right. Currently, From, Reply-To, Return-Path and Sender fields are used. I've seen the message from Bill about

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Audiac, @19-Jul-2003, 19:31 +0200 (18:31 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> So I will never use a black list to determine spam. So far I am >> still trying to get something bayesian that will work for me. I >> have

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-21 Thread audiac
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 10:37:12 PM, MikeD wrote: > So I will never use a black list to determine spam. So far I am still > trying to get something bayesian that will work for me. I have hopes > for the new bayesian plug-in for TB. Does anyone have any more information on this plugin? For insta

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Bill, On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:14:54 -0400 GMT (17/07/03, 11:14 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: >> I have a question to those who have their own address in their AB: >> What is the reason? > For both BCCing and test mails to myself. I don't like auto complete > turned on. It's much easie

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 16-Jul-03 7:01pm -0400, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I have a question to those who have their own address in their AB: > What is the reason? - If you keep BBC'ing yourself, you type your own > address into the BBC field once, and the history function will always > autocomplete (faster than d

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 16-Jul-03 5:22pm -0400, Dave Kennedy wrote: > Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 4:31:36 PM, Bill wrote: B>> I know Sender checks From:, Sender:, Reply-To: and B>> Return-Path: but I didn't find a definitive list. Have I B>> missed any? > I checked the spams that leaked through and they all have m

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 7:01:34 PM, Thomas wrote: T> I have a question to those who have their own address in their T> AB: What is the reason? My reasons are pretty simple. I have many mail groups - tennis team, swim team board, basketball board, school parents, etc. (Hmmm. There's a theme there

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dave, On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:22:53 -0400 GMT (17/07/03, 04:22 +0700 GMT), Dave Kennedy wrote: > So, now the question becomes - what next? Hmmm. I looked at the > suggestion of creating my own Known filter, but the choice in the > Location column is TB!'s generic (and pervasive) Sender. Look

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 4:31:36 PM, Bill wrote: B> I know Sender checks From:, Sender:, Reply-To: and B> Return-Path: but I didn't find a definitive list. Have I B> missed any? I checked the spams that leaked through and they all have my e-mail in the Return-Path. Looks like that's the culprit.

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread MAU
Hello Bill, > Could you be more specific - i.e. which of the 25 topics returned? Not rally, I didn't read them all. I didn't even count them like you did. > I know Sender checks From:, Sender:, Reply-To: and Return-Path: but I > didn't find a definitive list. Have I missed any? I think you are

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 16-Jul-03 4:37pm -0400, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > @16-Jul-2003, 16:31 -0400 (21:31 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in > mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: >>> And what is "sender"? Help/Find/sender :) BM>> Could you be more specific - i.e. which of the 25 topics BM>> returned? BM>> I know

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, @16-Jul-2003, 16:31 -0400 (21:31 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: >> And what is "sender"? Help/Find/sender :) BM> Could you be more specific - i.e. which of the 25 topics BM> returned? BM> I know Sender c

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 16-Jul-03 3:56pm -0400, MAU wrote: > And what is "sender"? Help/Find/sender :) Could you be more specific - i.e. which of the 25 topics returned? I know Sender checks From:, Sender:, Reply-To: and Return-Path: but I didn't find a definitive list. Have I missed any? -- Best regards, Bi

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander, > 16-Jul-2003 17:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd prefer you don't quote my e-mail address in the body. Thanks, -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | "Using TB

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander, > What Dave Kennedy wants to know is which fields of a message DOES the Known > filter compare with the given address book? > > You know, FROM, TO, REPLY-TO, etc. etc. Ah, that? I didn't know he was asking that ;-) It's the Sender's address. At least that is what the Known filte

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 11:53:18 AM, Alexander wrote: A> 16-Jul-2003 17:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A> What Dave Kennedy wants to know is which fields of a message A> DOES the Known filter compare with the given address book? A> You know, FROM, TO, REPLY-TO, etc. etc. Thank you! I'm glad some

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Alexander
16-Jul-2003 17:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm telling you but you don't belive me. The reason for the leaks is you > put your Known filter first :-) What Dave Kennedy wants to know is which fields of a message DOES the Known filter compare with the given address book? You know, FROM, TO, REP

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread MAU
Hello Dave, M>> Anyway, if you put your Known filter first, you will see some M>> spam messages "leaking through" as you say in your original M>> post. > > I don't mind the leaking per se; it's not understanding the > reason for the leak that is keeping me awake nights. :) I'm telling you but you

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 5:54:23 PM, Allie wrote: A> This thread has now been declared DEAD . as in DEAD A> HORSE!! I wasn't trying to get a POPFile/SpamPal battle going. What I'm trying to do is learn what the logic/algorithm is that TB! uses for the Known filter. If that could be answere

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 4:13:58 PM, MAU wrote: M> Loose messages No matter what method, program, filter, M> whatever, you use to detect spam you should not delete or M> trash spam (initially flagged as spam) messages until you M> somehow review them. There are always false positives and M> fal

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 4:07:53 PM, WL wrote: W> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:28:47 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK>> I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to DK>> get e-mail from will send a note that has spam-like material DK>> in it. W> ...but that defeats the purpose of "training ma

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Morse, [JM] wrote: JM> whoops I thought you were saying that it didn't work. JM> I see you said "not because it didn't work" JM> My Appologies! Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being r

Re[3]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello John, you wrote: >> well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work > LOL, yeaH right > I guess not all software is idiot-proof whoops I thought you were saying that it didn't work. I see you said "not because it didn't work" My Appologies! -- John Morse pagemaker -at- sem

Re[3]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello MikeD, you wrote: > The problem with 'black lists' is that inevitably there are a lot of > people on them that should not be. Did you know that you can "un-check" this feature from SpamPal if you do not wish to use it? -- John Morse pagemaker -at- semo -dot- net

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello Paul, you wrote: > well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work LOL, yeaH right I guess not all software is idiot-proof -- John Morse pagemaker -at- semo -dot- net Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http:/

Re[3]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello Terry, you wrote: > And, at 99% + accuracy, Popfile makes it really easy for me to stick > to my principles. :) This is always the main point that Popfile users stick too. I too (although losing many "good" emails) was assured by Popfile itself that it was doing such a good job why

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello MAU, you wrote: > Can I say that I doubt it? :-) Yes, you can, but have you tried SpamPal? I can honestly say I have used both! And Popfile's stats will fool you, believe me I know, I used Popfile. Popfile uses only Bayesian, SpamPal uses a combination of effective spam fighting techniques.

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MikeD
Hello neurowerx, Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:32:42 PM, you wrote: nwd> 15-Jul-2003 21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I don't know about other Bayesian filters but for POPFile, for example >> IP addresses are just "words" that it can use to classify messages. And >> it sure does learn and use IP l

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Terry, Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:03:03 PM, you wrote: T> I use Popfile alone because it *doesn't* use DNS blacklists. I have T> philosophical issues with DNS blacklists. And, at 99% + accuracy, T> Popfile makes it really easy for me to stick to my principles. :) This is not directed at Te

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 4:19 PM, you wrote: nwd> 15-Jul-2003 22:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work, but because >> I finally noticed that the slowdown in receiving mail was only on the >> accounts that had spampal setup. Now I am back t

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread neurowerx
15-Jul-2003 22:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work, but because > I finally noticed that the slowdown in receiving mail was only on the > accounts that had spampal setup. Now I am back to getting my mail FAST. I'd say that depends on how freq

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MAU
Hello Dave, > I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to get > e-mail from will send a note that has spam-like material in it. I > don't want to lose those messages. Loose messages No matter what method, program, filter, whatever, you use to detect spam you should not delete

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread WL
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:28:47 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 3:09:00 PM, MAU wrote: M>> Are you using any filter to sort messages classified as spam M>> by POPFile? If so, this filter should be placed _before_ the M>> Known filter. DK> I've got the Known filter first. Somet

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 3:19 PM, you wrote: >> SpamPal also makes less mistakes than PopFile. M> Can SpamPal do much better than 99,71% accuracy? I doubt it, because M> even 100% isn't that much more ;-) well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work, but because I finally notic

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MAU
Hello neurowerx, > Good point. However, I believe that DNS blacklists are updated faster than > popfile will "learn" IP addresses when you teach them manually. I don't teach IPs to POPFile. It learns by itself. The only thing I tell POPFile is if a message it has classified as spam and it isn't,

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Terry
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 6:38 PM, neurowerx wrote: > I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only > measure again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal > "alone" (DNS blacklist feature). I only use the Bayesian plugin to > Spampal as an addition (the few mail

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread neurowerx
15-Jul-2003 21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know about other Bayesian filters but for POPFile, for example > IP addresses are just "words" that it can use to classify messages. And > it sure does learn and use IP lists. Good point. However, I believe that DNS blacklists are updated fast

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 3:09:00 PM, MAU wrote: M> Are you using any filter to sort messages classified as spam M> by POPFile? If so, this filter should be placed _before_ the M> Known filter. I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to get e-mail from will send a note that has spam

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread MAU
Hello John, > But imagine my surprise... Now I have to say, without a doubt, that > SpamPal is better than PopFile. Can I say that I doubt it? :-) > SpamPal also makes less mistakes than PopFile. Can SpamPal do much better than 99,71% accuracy? I doubt it, because even 100% isn't that much more

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MAU
Hello neurowerx, > I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only measure > again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal "alone" (DNS > blacklist feature). Because, for example in my case, I'm getting a 99.71 accuracy with POPFile alone which, as you probably know,

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MAU
Hello Dave, > The related problem is some POPFile identified spam is leaking > through, and I suspect that the Inbox-Known filtering is causing > it to trigger. But, I'm not sure of the details of the > Inbox-Known algorithm to debug this issue. Are you using any filter

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 15-Jul-03 12:52pm -0400, MikeD wrote: > The problem is that enough spammers have figured this out and they are > spoofing your address so that (assuming, presumably, that you list > yourself in your address book ) it is not as clear as it was. I > recently had to take my address out of my a

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello neurowerx, you wrote: > I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only measure > again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal "alone" (DNS > blacklist feature). I only use the Bayesian plugin to Spampal as an > addition (the few mails that get thru first place

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 12:52:27 PM, MikeD wrote: M> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 8:49:16 AM, Dave K wrote: DK>> What is the logic for the "Inbox - Known" automatic DK>> filtering in conjunction with the address book? M> The problem is that enough spammers have figu

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread neurowerx
15-Jul-2003 15:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The related problem is some POPFile identified spam Just a thought about "combined measures"... I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only measure again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal "alone" (DNS blacklist

Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MikeD
Hello Dave, Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 8:49:16 AM, you wrote: DK> What is the logic for the "Inbox - Known" automatic filtering in DK> conjunction with the address book? DK> The related problem is some POPFile identified spam is leaking DK> through, and I suspect that the In

Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Kennedy
What is the logic for the "Inbox - Known" automatic filtering in conjunction with the address book? The related problem is some POPFile identified spam is leaking through, and I suspect that the Inbox-Known filtering is causing it to trigger. But, I'm not sure of the details of

Re: inbox-known ?

2002-08-08 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Andy, On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, at 23:52:31 [GMT +0100] (23:52 where I live) you wrote: AM> Hello list AM> Probably a stupid question, but what is the purpose of the AM> "Inbox-Known" folder which was created automatically on AM> installation? There is

inbox-known ?

2002-08-08 Thread Andy Morrison
Hello list Probably a stupid question, but what is the purpose of the "Inbox-Known" folder which was created automatically on installation? -- Best regards, Andy Current version is 1.61 | &q

Re: Restoring 'Inbox - Known'

2002-06-18 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Monday, June 17, 2002, 18:21, Joseph N. wrote: > I cannot delete the filter. The folder's long gone, and the 'remove' > button in the Sorting Office is grayed out for the 'Known' filter. Same here. I think I deleted it somewhere during the beta series, haven't looked at it since. Sorry, sho

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?

2002-06-15 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Miles! On Friday, June 14, 2002 at 9:03:31 PM you wrote: > It boggles the mind that several WEEKS after this (potentially very > useful) feature is implemented there's still NOTHING on the updated > program's FAQ. The FAQ does not come from RITLabs. > And please, please don't tell us tha

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?

2002-06-14 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Miles, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 3:03:31 PM. TM>> [+] The incoming mail filter for moving messages from TM>> known senders to a special folder so the Inbox can be left for TM>> unknown senders and spam :-) MJ> Wel

Re[3]: "Inbox - Known" Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?

2002-06-14 Thread Bill Blinn, Technology Editor
It seems that Miles Johnson said ... M> I'm sticking to 1.53... Do others feel the same way? In a word, no. Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -- Bill Blinn, Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 6/14/2002 at 3:31 PM Technology Corner on Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio

Re[2]: "Inbox - Known" Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?

2002-06-14 Thread Miles Johnson
TM> [+] The incoming mail filter for moving messages from known TM> senders to a special folder so the Inbox can be left for unknown TM> senders and spam :-) Well I've been trying to figure this out ever since it was implemented, seen all kinds of people upset about this... It boggles the mind t

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder?

2002-06-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @14 June 2002, 11:20:14 -0400 (16:20 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA>> As this question has been asked several times... might it not be a JA>> nice addition to add to the FAQ (whoever maintains it?) ;

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder?

2002-06-14 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 11:16:22 AM. JA> As this question has been asked several times... might it not be a JA> nice addition to add to the FAQ (whoever maintains it?) ;) Not a bad idea... Marck?

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder?

2002-06-14 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Alan, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 10:43:56 AM. AL> Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 AL> I just upgraded to 1.60q, and it created a folder named "Inbox - AL> Known" in each of my accounts, just abo

Re: "Inbox - Known" Folder?

2002-06-14 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Friday, June 14, 2002, Alan Little wrote... > Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 > I just upgraded to 1.60q, and it created a folder named "Inbox - > Known" in each of my accounts, just above the Inbox standard folder. > What is this for? I can'

"Inbox - Known" Folder?

2002-06-14 Thread Alan Little
Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 I just upgraded to 1.60q, and it created a folder named "Inbox - Known" in each of my accounts, just above the Inbox standard folder. What is this for? I can't find anything about it in the documentation. -- Alan Little Holot

Re: Inbox - Known (was: What happened to Help?)

2002-05-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 8:07:31 AM you wrote: MSG>> and how I get rid of it if I don't want it? > Don't know. For all those who couldn't follow the lists in the past few weeks - and those that don't know what an archive is: Got to your Sorting Office and disable the filte

Inbox - Known (was: What happened to Help?)

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F
Hello Michael, On Tue, 21 May 2002 18:25:04 -0700 GMT (22/05/02, 08:25 +0700 GMT), Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: MSG> Is this a problem on my computer or with the program? It's not a problem, it's a new feature. MSG> Meanwhile, can anyone tell me what this Inbox-Known is, why

Re[4]: Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error [SOLVED]

2002-05-06 Thread role+the_bat
Ta-dah! I've found the cause and thought I should share with community and developers, so here goes. Many thanks to all that responded with ideas, too! It turns out that during some aspect of the upgrade process from 1.53d through 1.60h to 1.60j (current), and/or deleting my "Inb

Re: separate Inbox-Known for each address book

2002-05-05 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hello John. At 1:03 PM on Friday, May 03, 2002 you wrote the following about [separate Inbox-Known for each address book]: John> I've split my address book into two - work folks and John> personal folks. Can I make an "Inbox - Known" rule for John> each address book?

Re[3]: Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error

2002-05-05 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Sun, 5 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jonathan, > > JA> Not sure if this is helpful... Have you made sure that you have > JA> the "Continue processing" set? I cannot remember the full name. It > JA> may have become switched off some how... and as soon as it hits > JA> that rule, it has no

Re[3]: Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error

2002-05-05 Thread role+the_bat
Jonathan, JA> Not sure if this is helpful... Have you made sure that you have JA> the "Continue processing" set? I cannot remember the full name. It JA> may have become switched off some how... and as soon as it hits JA> that rule, it has no reason to continue processing. The problem is actually

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