Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-22 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Marck, MDP> There is no definitive list that I know of. We'll have to beg for a MDP> straight answer from one of the programmers. Maybe we should ask on MDP> TBBETA? The list is right. Currently, From, Reply-To, Return-Path and Sender fields are used. I've seen the message from Bill about

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 7:01:34 PM, Thomas wrote: T> I have a question to those who have their own address in their T> AB: What is the reason? My reasons are pretty simple. I have many mail groups - tennis team, swim team board, basketball board, school parents, etc. (Hmmm. There's a theme there

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 4:31:36 PM, Bill wrote: B> I know Sender checks From:, Sender:, Reply-To: and B> Return-Path: but I didn't find a definitive list. Have I B> missed any? I checked the spams that leaked through and they all have my e-mail in the Return-Path. Looks like that's the culprit.

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 11:53:18 AM, Alexander wrote: A> 16-Jul-2003 17:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A> What Dave Kennedy wants to know is which fields of a message A> DOES the Known filter compare with the given address book? A> You know, FROM, TO, REPLY-TO, etc. etc. Thank you! I'm glad some

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 5:54:23 PM, Allie wrote: A> This thread has now been declared DEAD . as in DEAD A> HORSE!! I wasn't trying to get a POPFile/SpamPal battle going. What I'm trying to do is learn what the logic/algorithm is that TB! uses for the Known filter. If that could be answere

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 4:13:58 PM, MAU wrote: M> Loose messages No matter what method, program, filter, M> whatever, you use to detect spam you should not delete or M> trash spam (initially flagged as spam) messages until you M> somehow review them. There are always false positives and M> fal

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 4:07:53 PM, WL wrote: W> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:28:47 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK>> I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to DK>> get e-mail from will send a note that has spam-like material DK>> in it. W> ...but that defeats the purpose of "training ma

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello Paul, you wrote: > well, I just got rid of spampal, not because it didn't work LOL, yeaH right I guess not all software is idiot-proof -- John Morse pagemaker -at- semo -dot- net Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http:/

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello MAU, you wrote: > Can I say that I doubt it? :-) Yes, you can, but have you tried SpamPal? I can honestly say I have used both! And Popfile's stats will fool you, believe me I know, I used Popfile. Popfile uses only Bayesian, SpamPal uses a combination of effective spam fighting techniques.

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread MikeD
Hello neurowerx, Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:32:42 PM, you wrote: nwd> 15-Jul-2003 21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I don't know about other Bayesian filters but for POPFile, for example >> IP addresses are just "words" that it can use to classify messages. And >> it sure does learn and use IP l

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Terry
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 6:38 PM, neurowerx wrote: > I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only > measure again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal > "alone" (DNS blacklist feature). I only use the Bayesian plugin to > Spampal as an addition (the few mail

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 3:09:00 PM, MAU wrote: M> Are you using any filter to sort messages classified as spam M> by POPFile? If so, this filter should be placed _before_ the M> Known filter. I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to get e-mail from will send a note that has spam

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering - SpamPal

2003-07-15 Thread John Morse
Hello neurowerx, you wrote: > I wonder why many people are using Bayes filtering as the only measure > again spam. 95% of the spam I get is being caught by SpamPal "alone" (DNS > blacklist feature). I only use the Bayesian plugin to Spampal as an > addition (the few mails that get thru first place

Re[2]: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 12:52:27 PM, MikeD wrote: M> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 8:49:16 AM, Dave K wrote: DK>> What is the logic for the "Inbox - Known" automatic DK>> filtering in conjunction with the address book? M> The problem is that enough spammers have figured this out and M> they are spoofing