Hello TBUDL members,

As I have understood it:

Received time is my time, Created time is sender's time and GT or GMT
is just the latter says - Mean time, or 0 time (it's the longitude,
which is what makes time time).

Therefore, the suggestion to include the sender's time zone in a
message sent as indicted by GMT+X or 0+X hours is as logical solution
to the issue as any.

DH


Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 9:29:07 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hi Alexander,

TF> on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 10:56:56 PM GMT+0800, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

>>> I would prefer it to always be in GMT (as pine does it), but I have
>>> seen from my colleagues that the lcoal time is more appreciated by the
>>> average user. 

AVK>> And I'll explain you why...

AVK>> Suppose I worked hard all day teaching students, then returned 
AVK>> back home and composed a couple of message to a mailing list 
AVK>> (about 5-00PM my local time). Then suppose some American 
AVK>> like Steve Lamb (just for example) decided to reply to these. His 
AVK>> message will then start with:

AVK>> ....., 1-00 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote....

AVK>> And suppose the head of our staff is the member of the same 
AVK>> mailing list....

TF> In that case I would think your head of staff would know the meaning
TF> of GMT, wouldn't s/he? ;-)

>>> I think we discussed this on this list about last month or so.
>>> The result was the suggestion to add "GMT+hhhh" hours to the
>>> Reply Template (see above). 

AVK>> Yup, this is a workaround of course, but this doesn't solve the 
AVK>> problem itself I'd say.

TF> But it clarifies what time is meant. You sent your message at 10:56pm
TF> my time - but do you know that it is "my time", or does it look like
TF> it could be "your time"? And do you know where "my time" is? A "time
TF> zone indicator" is needed in international email, I think. And for me,
TF> "09:00 GMT+0800" and "01:00 GMT" have the same meaning. No time zone
TF> indicator causes confusion. With a time zone indicator, it really
TF> doesn't matter whether you use Local Time or GMT. The average user
TF> prefers Local Time.

>>> Here is a suggestion: Add a %GMT macro, which would should the
>>> difference between your local time zone and GMT.

AVK>> Better add a %LTIME macro that would default to the local time 
AVK>> (this is how the %OTIME works currently), and modify the 
AVK>> %OTIME macro to show the time as it was stated in the 
AVK>> message headers, *without* the timezone correction.

TF> Agree; better than my suggestion. Still it should show the time zone,
TF> in order to avoid confusion. Imagine this lsit: some people prefer
TF> %LTIME, otehr prefer %OTIME, how would you know who uses which?

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