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Hello Mike,
MA> Sunday, December 29, 2002, 5:18:41 AM, you wrote:
VBG>> In actuality I have 2 AVs. pccillin & Norton fully updated.
MA> Er, don't :) That is, don't have 2 AVs as they will tend to crash
MA> your system if you run them both at the same time
A>>> Seriously, you absolutely should have a scanner. You could be one of
MA>>> the people passing on viruses to people.
VBG>> Even if I had executed the virus and it be one of the worst
VBG>> viruses in existence it really wouldn't have affected me in
VBG>> the least.
MA> How do you know? And how do you know it won't affect someone else?
It could take me a long time to explain and is why I am
writing the report. I have measures of methods that I've
been following for a long time and they have proven well.
VBG>> I've built my systems to be +virus proof and I can literally
VBG>> catch over 400 different viruses in one shot and it wouldn't
VBG>> make a difference to my information or OS & boot stability.
MA> Victor, you really need to read the literature. There is no such
MA> thing as 100% virus/worm/Trojan proof.
The answer is in your own statement. No such thing (AV) that
is 100% malware proof.
Day 1 - You update your AV with day 1 signature.
Day 2 - New malware on loose. Next AV update is day 4.
Day 3 - Malware infects your OS, melting your ice cream.
MA> There is only a very high degree of protection. That's
MA> because each new incursion will result in a
MA> virus/worm/Trojan which you don't know about and which
MA> executes code you may not be protected against.
I've read somewhere that human error is 77% responsible for
system failures.
Human Error Vs. Malware
If that is the case then I am willing to bet (just a bet)
the remaining 27% who protected against a virus but catches
one fall into the 77% of human error.
VBG>> To be honest I don't even need my currently updated AVs.
MA> Yes, you do. :)
MA>>> Not having a scanner not only means you can get infected, it also
MA>>> means you can pass it on to other people.
I agree, I apologize. Though my smarts and methods might
prove great against an attack on my OS, I only agree because
I wasn't thinking about everyone else when it came to my OS.
VBG>> You're right! & you got me there. I know not every one has
VBG>> systems & plans in place like I do to fend off viruses,
VBG>> Trojans & worms.
MA> You may fend off most, but basically, even you if a triple-cycled
MA> sheep dip machine, you can till miss something.
what?
VBG>> I have plans on writing a report on how to operate &
VBG>> maintain a safe and healthy OS after I finish my spam report
VBG>> and to be honest you've made a point I really didn't stop to
VBG>> think about.
MA> I should check out what's already on the Net before leaping into
MA> writing something. I'm not saying you don't know enough or can't help
MA> people to learn some tricks, but your attitude to new threats and to
MA> passing on nasties seems a little naive. And that's not meant in any
MA> way offensively.
No offense taken what so ever :) A good debate is the father
of a good report.
I was though for the record not mentioning writing a report
about AVs but a report on good system maintenance.
The future report is mainly aimed at protecting yourself
and not others; but what is safety with a disregard of it
towards others?
You're right and I am not upset. I can only thank you for
your point of view on the subject.
VBG>> One thing then I would need help with if someone would be
VBG>> so kind. One, I understand The Bat! supports the AVG plugin,
VBG>> but do I need AVG running all the time or can AVG simply
VBG>> launch unnoticeably when I hit send to send mail out & then
VBG>> just stop?
I do still prefer a plug-in VS. full system watch AVs. Which
is the best freeware version out? I don't really like the
idea of paying for another anti-virus scanner :(
MA> You'd be much better off with the excellent Norton engine that you
MA> already have, running all the time.
NAV is a part of my NSW2002 Pro package and I don't have it
installed. Does it have plug-in support because then maybe
I'll pull it out of the box?
I do have MicroTrend PC-cillin 2000 installed and it is
actively updated but it fails to catch incoming & outgoing
virus attachments :(
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Best regards,
Victor B. Gonzalez
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