Hi
On Saturday 14 October 2006 at 1:59:22 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Arjan de Groot wrote:
It's obvious you don't know the difference between stupidity
and common sense.
One obvious difference is that stupidity appears to be by far the
more common.
Arjan
Just curious but what is the
Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else,
on 14-Okt-2006 at 00:01 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote:
That doesn't make it any less superfluous or stupid.
Well, that is your opinion. I wouldn't use such hard words.
I call it stupid because it serves no purpose whatsoever. No other
mail-client that I
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:05:23 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
I call it stupid because it serves no purpose whatsoever. No
other mail-client that I know of understands it, no e-mail
user that I know of cares about it. It's just code sitting in
there for nothing.
Well, I know of other email
Hello Ben,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 12:23:08 AM, you wrote:
Thursday, October 12, 2006, 10:12:33 PM, Graham wrotened:
GS I have a person who I email regularly. Emails that I initiate, get
GS through to him, but if I reply to one of his emails he doesn't
GS receive it.
Do they bounce
Hello Thomas,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 2:43:12 AM, you wrote:
GS Thanks, but only one entry for this contact and no reply templates
GS defined.
When you reply, is the a spelling mistake in his address?
No, I have checked this
Just guessing: Maybe he has a spelling mistake in his Reply-To
Hallo Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:59:18 +0100GMT (13-10-2006, 8:59 , where I
live), you wrote:
GS How do I view the Reply to header? I have right clicked on the header
GS and selected the Reply to option in the headers menu, but it isn't
GS showing up.
Press Shift-Ctrl-K to view all headers
Hello Roelof,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 9:10:49 AM, you wrote:
Press Shift-Ctrl-K to view all headers (including the reply-to header)
while viewing the message. Press Shift-Ctrl-K again to make them
disappear.
I have extracted the headers from a send to email (upper) and a reply
to email
Hello Thomas,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 2:43:12 AM, you wrote:
GS Thanks, but only one entry for this contact and no reply templates
GS defined.
When you reply, is the a spelling mistake in his address?
No, I have checked this
Just guessing: Maybe he has a spelling mistake in his
Hello David,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 1:50:48 PM, you wrote:
For your information I have exactly the same problem when sending
emails to a client in Australia. All replies disappear into the
ether. Sending standalone emails seems to work. I have asked their
IT people to look into their
Hallo Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:21:19 +0100GMT (13-10-2006, 11:21 , where I
live), you wrote:
disappear.
GS I have extracted the headers from a send to email (upper) and a reply
GS to email (lower). Can anyone see anything strange about them. Many
GS thanks.
I can't see anything wrong
Hallo David,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:50:48 +0100GMT (13-10-2006, 14:50 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:
DE etc? If this works it's either a Bat or a server issue.
moderator
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just to the person being replied to, even if their
Hello Roelof,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 3:08:33 PM, you wrote:
Because I can't see anything wrong with both messages.
You can disable reply numbering at:
Account - Properties - Templates - Reply - Use reply numbering in the
subject line
Is this going to affect message threading?
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Hallo Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:27:15 +0100GMT (13-10-2006, 16:27 , where I
live), you wrote:
You can disable reply numbering at:
GS Is this going to affect message threading?
No. Not for TB and other threading mail clients.
For non-threading mail clients that only thread/sort on subject
Hello Roelof,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 3:52:06 PM, you wrote:
You can disable reply numbering at:
GS Is this going to affect message threading?
No. Not for TB and other threading mail clients.
For non-threading mail clients that only thread/sort on subject it
might improve threading.
Hello Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:59:18 +0100 GMT (13/10/2006, 13:59 +0700 GMT),
Graham Smith wrote:
When you reply, is the a spelling mistake in his address?
GS No, I have checked this
That crashes my theory.
Just guessing: Maybe he has a spelling mistake in his Reply-To header,
which
replying to
those numbered Re: TB-specific messages, because they don't
recognize them as such. Which leads to messages with Subjects
like:
Re: Re[4]: Reply to problem.
In short, this Re: numbering is non-RFC, superfluous and stupid,
and RIT should get rid of it as soon as possible
Arjan
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Hello Thomas,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 4:17:40 PM, you wrote:
Crtl-K was suggested to see all headers. You can also hit F9 to see
the whole source of the message, which is what I usually do. It will
also show you other problems, such as unbalanced boundaries. Not that
I have experienced
Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else,
on 13-Okt-2006 at 17:27 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote:
In short, this Re: numbering is non-RFC
Can you point me to the RFC that says reply prefixes *MUST NOT* contain
these numbers?
superfluous and stupid, and RIT should get rid of it as soon as
possible
Hello Roelof,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 3:52:06 PM, you wrote:
You can disable reply numbering at:
GS Is this going to affect message threading?
No. Not for TB and other threading mail clients.
For non-threading mail clients that only thread/sort on subject it
might improve threading.
Hello David,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 1:50:48 PM, you wrote:
For your information I have exactly the same problem when sending
emails to a client in Australia. All replies disappear into the
ether. Sending standalone emails seems to work. I have asked their
IT people to look into their
Hallo Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:24:39 +0100GMT (13-10-2006, 19:24 , where I
live), you wrote:
You can disable reply numbering at:
GS This seems to have worked :-)
In that case it's most likely that the Re[2]: in the subject was
triggering some sort of spam filter.
Just out of curiosity,
Hello Roelof,
Friday, October 13, 2006, 7:08:24 PM, you wrote:
You can disable reply numbering at:
GS This seems to have worked :-)
In that case it's most likely that the Re[2]: in the subject was
triggering some sort of spam filter.
Just out of curiosity, did you even receive your own
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:15:27 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
In short, this Re: numbering is non-RFC
Can you point me to the RFC that says reply prefixes *MUST NOT*
contain these numbers?
RFC-2822 has this to say:
3.6.5. Informational fields
[...] The Subject: field is the most common and
On Friday, October 13, 2006, 3:24:35 PM, Arjan de Groot on TBUDL wrote:
Its configurable, so what. Maybe it should be off by default though.
That doesn't make it any less superfluous or stupid.
I never have understood why we had that option to begin with. That's
always one of the first things
Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else,
on 13-Okt-2006 at 21:24 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote:
[...] The Subject: field is the most common and contains a
short string identifying the topic of the message. When used in a
reply, the field body MAY start with the string Re: (from the
Latin res, in
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else,
on 13-Okt-2006 at 20:08 you (Roelof Otten) wrote:
In that case it's most likely that the Re[2]: in the subject was
triggering some sort of spam filter.
That sounds very plausible. There's been quite some spam in the past
that contained this Re: numbering in
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:25:45 -0400, David Calvarese wrote:
Its configurable, so what. Maybe it should be off by default
though.
That doesn't make it any less superfluous or stupid.
I never have understood why we had that option to begin with.
That's always one of the first things I do on
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:53:46 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
If I understand correctly, it implies: you MAY use 1 instance of
Re: in a reply, but you SHOULD NOT use other strings as it can
lead to undesirable consequences.
That is one interpretation. :-) Another fine example of an RFC that
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@ @ at 00:01:36 +0200, when Arjan de Groot wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:53:46 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
If I understand correctly, it implies: you MAY use
Hello,
I have a weird problem, which may be nothing to do with The Bat! but
has only occurred since I started to use The Bat!
I have a person who I email regularly. Emails that I initiate, get
through to him, but if I reply to one of his emails he doesn't
receive it.
He is confident that this
Hallo Graham,
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:12:33 +0100GMT (12-10-2006, 23:12 , where I
live), you wrote:
GS I have a person who I email regularly. Emails that I initiate, get
GS through to him, but if I reply to one of his emails he doesn't
GS receive it.
Check your address book for entries of this
Hello Roelof,
Thursday, October 12, 2006, 11:59:34 PM, you wrote:
Check your address book for entries of this contact (there might be
more than one) and check whether you've got reply templates defined
for him, especially ones that alter the recipient of the reply.
Thanks, but only one
Howdy Graham,
Thursday, October 12, 2006, 10:12:33 PM, Graham wrotened:
GS I have a weird problem, which may be nothing to do with The Bat! but
GS has only occurred since I started to use The Bat!
GS I have a person who I email regularly. Emails that I initiate, get
GS through to him, but if I
Hello Graham,
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:14:54 +0100 GMT (13/10/2006, 06:14 +0700 GMT),
Graham Smith wrote:
GS Thanks, but only one entry for this contact and no reply templates
GS defined.
When you reply, is the a spelling mistake in his address?
Just guessing: Maybe he has a spelling mistake in
I wish to have the reply-to field blank.
If that's not possible, I want it set, in a specific folder for an
email list, to be the email list address.
No matter what I've tried, in the specific list's folder, the reply
to, upon checking again, has reverted to the From information.
And the reason
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@ @ at 08:55:33 -0500, when Robert D. wrote:
I wish to have the reply-to field blank.
If that's not possible, I want it set, in a specific folder for an
Hello Robert,
No matter what I've tried, in the specific list's folder, the reply
to, upon checking again, has reverted to the From information.
Have you set the Reply-To in the Identity of the folder properties?
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.72.04
Recently, MAU opined :
Have you set the Reply-To in the Identity of the folder properties?
Yes, I did but it **seemed** to ALWAYS track what the Account's
Reply-To was.
As it turn out, I copied what Mica just suggested and oddly it worked
this time.
For, that was what I thought I was trying
Hello Robert,
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:55:33 -0500 GMT (25/03/2006, 20:55 +0700 GMT),
Robert D. wrote:
RD I wish to have the reply-to field blank.
Account / Properties / General. Take the entries at Reply-To
Information out. In fact, they should be blank by default.
RD If that's not possible, I
Thomas Fernandez waved a wand then said :
In fact, they should be blank by default.
OK ... I shall ... but could you enlighten me as to why it should be
blank?
Hm. On all lists I post, the list software will overwrite
dunno laddie , however, there are a couple of them, one being:
Analog-Help
Who would have guessed that Thomas Fernandez would have said :
Account / Properties / General. Take the entries at Reply-To
Information out. In fact, they should be blank by default.
Actually, I remember now. A couple of years ago, there was a list to
which I belonged, that categorically
Hello Robert,
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:29:35 -0500 GMT (25/03/2006, 22:29 +0700 GMT),
Robert D. wrote:
In fact, they should be blank by default.
RD OK ... I shall ... but could you enlighten me as to why it should be
RD blank?
It's not your fault, the default is set by Ritlabs. It should be
Hello Robert D. everyone else,
on 25-Mrz-2006 at 14:55 you (Robert D.) wrote:
And the reason I wish this would be that there is a certain list I am
on that sends List replies to me rather than the mentioned list. They
can't fix that problem so I am trying to do the make-shift repairs on
my
Hallo Andrew,
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:48:05 -0500GMT (19-12-2004, 20:48 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:
Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMG Not sure why this would happen, but you should consider installing
moderator
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Thomas,
Yes, my mistake, thanks.
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William
Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Roelof,
RO In an AB template it should be easy. You can insert his/her name
RO without any macros. ;-)
I can't get anything I enter into the Reply template in the
AddressBook to appear in the message editor when I create a reply.
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William
Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build
Hallo William,
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:33:34 +GMT (27-11-03, 8:33 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
WS I can't get anything I enter into the Reply template in the
WS AddressBook to appear in the message editor when I create a reply.
The most common reason for that is having multiple entries
Roelof,
Thanks, I've found the problem.
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William
Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello William,
A reminder of what William Sigmund typed on:
26 November 2003 at 22:08:03 GMT +
WS Is there anything I have overlooked?
%TOFNAME
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Best regards,Tony.
Using The Bat! v2.01.50
Hi,
I can't get my reply template to insert the recipient's name into
either a folder template or an address book template.
I use this to get the first name from the address book:
%AbFROMFirstName
Is there anything I have overlooked?
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William
Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build
Hallo William,
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:08:03 +GMT (26-11-03, 23:08 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
WS I can't get my reply template to insert the recipient's name into
WS either a folder template or an address book template.
In an AB template it should be easy. You can insert his/her name
Hello William,
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:08:03 + GMT (27/11/2003, 05:08 +0700 GMT),
William Sigmund wrote:
I use this to get the first name from the address book:
%AbFROMFirstName
This would be your own name; you are the sender in the FROM field. If
you do not have your own address in the
Hi Roelof,
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:37:40 +0200
Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry but have to disagree.
Look two messages back in the thread. ;-)
You're reacting on a part of it,
I know :-)
You said RFC2822 tells Reply-To can have more than one address.
Thomas begged not to say
Hallo Peter,
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:21:30 +0200GMT (22-10-02, 13:21 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
PP :-) Thought this is obvious as I concentrated to put my 'disagree'
PP inline, directly behind this sentence of you :-)
Excuse me for missing your point. ;-) You're completely right of
Hallo Peter,
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:59:40 +0200GMT (21-10-02, 12:59 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
PP I'm sorry but have to disagree.
Look two messages back in the thread. ;-)
You're reacting on a part of it,
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Current
Good afternoon Thomas,
It was foretold that on 20-10-2002 19:01:58 GMT+0700 (which was
14:01:58 where I live) Thomas Fernandez would mumble:
snipped a bit
TF This will at least send the reply to the original poster's PM address
TF as well
Exactly
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Best regards,
Luc
Good night list,
I have a weird thing happening: one of the lists i'm subscribed to
seems to have strange headers: sometimes the reply-to header doesn't
contain the mail address of the list but that of the sender of a
message, thus my reply doesn't get to the list. Some messages have
Hey Luc,
My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta6) Personal' was used
to write mid:2439927923.20021020021339;pandora.be
on Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 8:13:39 PM.
L I have a weird thing happening: one of the lists i'm subscribed to
L seems to have strange headers: sometimes the reply-to header
Good night Tim,
It was foretold that on 20-10-2002 20:20:53 GMT-0400 (which was
2:20:53 where I live) Tim Musson would mumble:
snipped a bit
TM It is the list. What you can do in TB is set up a folder template (I
TM believe this is the only time a folder template is recommended) that
TM
Good night Luc,
It was foretold that on 20-10-2002 @ 02:30:29 GMT+0200 (which was
2:30:29 where I live) Luc would mumble:
snipped a bit
L i'll make a Qt for it
which doesn't work :(.
Here's my QT:
%SINGLERE%- %REPLYTO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%Qinclude=IE
%BCC= %LANGUAGE=BR
Hey Luc,
My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta6) Personal' was used
to write mid:19742166081.20021020025057;pandora.be
on Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 8:50:57 PM.
L snipped a bit
me to! 8 snip
Are you sure you want to set the replyto in a message you are
creating? Don't you
Tuesday, 8/13/02, 3:20 PM
Hi Marck,
On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, at 12:32:58 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:32 AM where I live)
you wrote about: 'reply template problem'
MDP ... but do the default account templates apply across the board? Do
MDP you have anything in your address book for any of the variants
Tuesday, 8/13/02, 3:53 PM
Hi Allie,
On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, at 07:23:10 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:23 AM where I live)
you wrote about: 'reply template problem'
ACM So what templates do you use? Address book?
Yes!
ACM Are you saying that your folder templates are empty?
Yes!
ACM then create
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Hi Paul,
@11 August 2002, 20:01 -0700 (04:01 UK time) Paul Wilson in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL Members:
I have several accounts set up. Each has a unique variation of my
name.
... but do the default account
Saturday, 8/10/02, 7:57 PM
Hi TBUDL Members,
I posted this on the beta list and got no response, so I will try
here.
I have several accounts set up. Each has a unique variation of my name.
No duplicate handles or address book entries. No Folder Templates
involved here, (I don't use them)
If I
Hi All,
This one has probably come up a couple of times... I just don't seem
to be able to find anything in the BUDL archives (I've spent the last
couple of days looking). This is the situation. I have several domain
names (for the same company) pipped into one pop3 account (they're all
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