Attachments not deleted with messages
18 November 2013 I have thought my Attachments directory was huge, and I spotted several .jpg files in it that should have been deleted when I deleted the parent messages. I just did a test and sent a mail to myself with an image attached. I deleted the message and then emptied the Trash folder. The image has not been deleted from the Attachments folder, even after closing and re-opening TB! Tried this several times, attachments not deleted... This is how the properties are set: http://www.gatesgarth.com/purge.jpg __ Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Lost draft
When I compose an e-mail note and close it without sending it, I am prompted to save it or not. If I save it, it goes to the Outbox. If I choose not to save it, it is gone. Fair enough. However if I open a message in the Outbox to continue editing, and choose not to save it, the original message in the Outbox disappears also. Not fair. Why is does the original disappear also? It ought to go to Trash. I worked for an hour or so writing a message and saved it. After a brief addition, in haste I did not save it. I lost it all. Ouch! Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing messages in this thread (WAS: Re: The Bat! Version 6.0.0)
Hello MFPA, A! That may be the reason, that your message was just sent to MFPA and he replied to the list. Yes. I just thought my filters or templates were playing up, and adjusted the To adress of my replies manually. OK, that explains it. At first I thought it was my filters playing up. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing messages in this thread (WAS: Re: The Bat! Version 6.0.0)
Hello Stuart, Another issue. I keep two complete copies of the TB mailing lists. One is a POP account and the other is an IMAP account. (I do this for testing purposes). The POP account kept the whole thread together despite my missing message. The IMAP account which uses the same View mode split them into two threads. No idea of what the reason may be, I don't use any IMAP accounts. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments not deleted with messages
Hello Chris, I have thought my Attachments directory was huge, and I spotted several .jpg files in it that should have been deleted when I deleted the parent messages. I just did a test and sent a mail to myself with an image attached. I deleted the message and then emptied the Trash folder. The image has not been deleted from the Attachments folder, even after closing and re-opening TB! Tried this several times, attachments not deleted... I think you should open a BT report at https://bt.ritlabs.com/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hello Leonard, However if I open a message in the Outbox to continue editing, and choose not to save it, the original message in the Outbox disappears also. Not the behavior here. If I don't save the edited version the original stays in the Outbox. I have just tested it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attachments not deleted with messages
Hello Chris, I have thought my Attachments directory was huge, and I spotted several .jpg files in it that should have been deleted when I deleted the parent messages. I just did a test and sent a mail to myself with an image attached. I deleted the message and then emptied the Trash folder. The image has not been deleted from the Attachments folder, even after closing and re-opening TB! Tried this several times, attachments not deleted... I think you should open a BT report at https://bt.ritlabs.com/ 18 November 2013 Before I do so would someone storing messages in a separate directory please see if they see the same? I thought it may be keeping a copy of the attachment because *I* sent it, which would make sense as it should also show in the sent mail folder, but I have also tried deleting some messages from other people just sent to myself, with attachments. The attachments are not deleted. I see a security issue here, what if my wife finds these photos of my mistress, for example, that I thought I'd deleted VBG et cetera, et cetera The bind outgoing blah blah tick box makes no difference either, I am not sure exactly what that's supposed to change. Thanks. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hello Leonard, Why is does the original disappear also? It ought to go to Trash. No, it ought to stay in Outbox as a Parked (Draft) message, like it does in my case. I've been doing further testing and even if I unpark the message in Outbox before opening it for edit, if I don't save the edited version the original stays in Outbox and it is parked again. Are you using IMAP? In my case I'm doing this with POP accounts, I don't know if there may be any difference with IMAP. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Attachments not deleted with messages
11/18/2013 7:03 AM Hi Chris, On 11/18/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: CW Before I do so would someone storing messages in a separate directory CW please see if they see the same? I thought it may be keeping a copy of CW the attachment because *I* sent it, which would make sense as it CW should also show in the sent mail folder, but I have also tried CW deleting some messages from other people just sent to myself, with CW attachments. The attachments are not deleted. I see a security issue CW here, what if my wife finds these photos of my mistress, for example, CW that I thought I'd deleted VBG et cetera, et cetera CW The bind outgoing blah blah tick box makes no difference either, I am CW not sure exactly what that's supposed to change. CW Thanks. As I learned long ago the attachments folder must be a sub-folder of the Account folder. Do a search in Help for bind and all your questions will be answered. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On Monday, November 18, 2013, 4:56:52 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Not the behavior here. If I don't save the edited version the original stays in the Outbox. I have just tested it. Well, I must have done something peculiar, as I cannot find it. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On Monday, November 18, 2013, 4:56:52 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Not the behavior here. If I don't save the edited version the original stays in the Outbox. I have just tested it. I just found it. I had sent it instead of closing it (red-faced). Thanks. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Attachments not deleted with messages
11/18/2013 7:03 AM Hi Chris, On 11/18/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: As I learned long ago the attachments folder must be a sub-folder of the Account folder. Do a search in Help for bind and all your questions will be answered. 18 November 2013 Hmm, no wonder my attachments folder is so big, many years of deleting messages and assuming any attachment was deleted too is proven wrong! It should be documented better as allowing a free choice of folder name and siting makes a user think it doesn't matter... Off to look for incriminating attachments now :) Thanks for the bind tip, I see how that works now, all the best Paul. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello TBUD Listers, Well, it's happened again. Several months ago (after a TB upgrade IIRC) roguemoticons and smileys stopped working. This failure has finally reached the point of annoyance where I feel the need to do something about it. I scoured the archives for about an hour looking for past correspondence (including my own) relating to this problem as I had this same problem in the past. I've confirmed settings mentioned in the archives but still no luck. If I send myself a message containing :-) it DOES show up as a smiley face. However, if I send myself a message containing :banana: it simply shows up as COLONbananaCOLON. I think this corresponds to my no longer seeing country flags in others messages. Additionally, roguemoticons refuse to appear when it is obvious that the sender has included his/her X-rouge jpg. My ROGUES folder is contained here: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\Images\Rogues and the ROGUES folder does contain images. In a previous message Miguel (MAU) was kind enough to send these links to TB settings for all this stuff: mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com but I don't know how to access the links. So, I tried everything I could think of so that I wouldn't have to bother the list again but... well, you know. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/18/2013 you wrote: Are you using IMAP? In my case I'm doing this with POP accounts, I don't know if there may be any difference with IMAP. I just tested with my IMAP account. It didn't save here, either. Just gone ... exactly as Leonard described. Sorry to confirm. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/18/2013 you wrote: Well, I must have done something peculiar, as I cannot find it. My IMAP folder behaves as you describe - no save. I hadn't discovered this yet; there have been other issues here, but given that we seem to have lost the drafts folder altogether, it's kind of worrisome. Hope it's a temporary glitch ... Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/18/2013 you wrote: I just found it. I had sent it instead of closing it (red-faced). Thanks. That's not what happened here, though. I've not only looked in that account's outbox/sentfolder/trash - I looked in the others, too, because I've had some exciting filter behaviour here. The one I closed here is just gone ... not sent, just not anywhere here. sigh Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/18/2013 you wrote: I just found it. I had sent it instead of closing it (red-faced). Thanks. On combing my other accounts one more time - I found mine in the sent folder of my isp account (POP). I'm guessing that would be a filter issue, though ... still, I closed the thing, didn't send or save it, so it shouldn't have turned up in the outbox of a totally different account. Guess my caution in rebuilding filters is not misplaced :-/ Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Monday 18 November 2013 at 6:03:03 PM, in mid:1746596024.20131118120...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: If I send myself a message containing :-) it DOES show up as a smiley face. However, if I send myself a message containing :banana: it simply shows up as COLONbananaCOLON. I think this corresponds to my no longer seeing country flags in others messages. So basic smileys like :-) work for you, but pcwsmileys like :banana: don't. Does your %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images folder contain a text file called pcwsmileys.msl as well as a folder called pcwimages (and does that folder called pcwimages contain banana.sml.gif and over 500 other image files)? Additionally, roguemoticons refuse to appear when it is obvious that the sender has included his/her X-rouge jpg. My ROGUES folder is contained here: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\Images\Rogues and the ROGUES folder does contain images. Does the Images folder contain the rogues.msl file as well as containing the Rogues folder? There's not an extra level of folders like last year? (See mid:1391391137.20120605095...@charter.net) From right-clicking the message headers, hovering over Sender Photo in the context menu, is there a tick by Display sender and no tick by Prefer photo from Address Book? (I know you said you already checked, but are you sure?) In a previous message Miguel (MAU) was kind enough to send these links to TB settings for all this stuff: mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com but I don't know how to access the links. Those are links to messages on TBUDL from late May 2012, with some of the numbers replaced by dots. The full message-ids are:- mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com Just click (or maybe double-click) and the message will open, if TB! can find it. So, I tried everything I could think of so that I wouldn't have to bother the list again but... well, you know. And I've not suggested anything that was not in the archives from last year. Rogues and pcwsmileys not working when basic smileys being fine would suggest to look carefully at the contents of your %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images folder before ploughing too deeply into settings. Of course, I may be talking complete rubbish. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hi On Monday 18 November 2013 at 8:02:44 PM, in mid:1052479487.20131118120...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote: On 11/18/2013 you wrote: Are you using IMAP? In my case I'm doing this with POP accounts, I don't know if there may be any difference with IMAP. I just tested with my IMAP account. It didn't save here, either. Just gone ... exactly as Leonard described. Sorry to confirm. I'm guessing it's an IMAP vs POP difference. Here, using POP, when I open a draft from the outbox and edit it but do not save or send it, it remains parked in the outbox as a draft. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com No man ever listened himself out of a job Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hello Leonard, On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:21:28 -0500 GMT (18-Nov-13, 22:21 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: Not the behavior here. If I don't save the edited version the original stays in the Outbox. I have just tested it. I just found it. I had sent it instead of closing it (red-faced). Thanks. I was just going to suggest to go to the Outbox and use Folder / Browse Deleted. It should still be there in any case, unless you have Compacted the folder in the meantime. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/18/2013 you wrote: I'm guessing it's an IMAP vs POP difference. Here, using POP, when I open a draft from the outbox and edit it but do not save or send it, it remains parked in the outbox as a draft. Right you are. I just tested a couple of POP accounts, and they do save there. IMAP strikes again ... and just when I thought it was finally working! lol! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
