auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread rellieb-cal
Dear Bat folk I have started to use Auto-Format in Bat editor, and I wonder how to make a hard-return in some situations. For example, with wrap-text set at 70, I type a line like a particular type of cartridge, and wonder if you are doing it right. and as soon as I type a space at the end of

Re: Bat windows on the taskbar should be improved

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi rellieb-cal, On 01 May 2000 at 12:13:03 GMT +1000 (which was 03:13 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Bat windows on the taskbar should be improved": I think the words View Folder are just taking up wasted space which is limited on taskbar items,

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rellieb-cal, Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs Yes, you do. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi rellieb-cal, On 01 May 2000 at 13:13:01 GMT +1000 (which was 04:13 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs Yes. if I intend to indent the first

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Cristian Secara
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:26:38 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Oddly enough it works exactly as you described for me. How is that ? For example, I read my own message, sent in The Bat! mailing list (opened in its own window). In order to view your replay, I have to press the "previous" toolbar button.

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 09:36:30 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: if I intend to indent the first line of that new paragraph with a few blank spaces or whatever. Sadly auto-format denies the possibility of using paragraph indent. It suits my purposes perfectly because I don't indent

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 01 May 2000 13:05:19 +0300, Cristian Secara wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:26:38 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Oddly enough it works exactly as you described for me. How is that ? For example, I read my own message, sent in The Bat! mailing list (opened in its own window). In order to

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Cristian Secara
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:10:13 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: The toolbar buttons that you speak about move you among messages as they appear in the list. Yes, but in the *received* list, not in my own displayed list. And it follows a reverse logic ("next" brings the previous in time message). It

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 13:05, Cristian Secara wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Cristian, I think you miss the following point: when you browse the messages in a _separate_ window, there is a _hidden_ (by default) message list there (you need to tick View--Message List in the menus of

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
I have sent this mail yesterday but it has been refused bcs I attached a small JPG to it showing the problems of sorting with Vew by reference. Sorry for the delay. Thus I omit the pic, of course. Hello Marck, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 4:28:17 PM, you wrote: 1-1. Autowrap Doesn't work if the

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Alexander, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 9:59:58 PM, you wrote: 7. Forward/Reply of multiple msg Merge them into one, attach all attachments in the forward mode to the merged text file. Add up all the subjects into one and put it into the subject field. Duplicate subjects should not be

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Jast, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 3:59:43 PM, you wrote: 13. Add Sender To AddressBook Doesn't work in b19. Well, it does with Beta/20 for sure. Indeed. Sorry. A couple more comments. a) Is it possible to change the order of folders in any account? b) I have tried the "thread by

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Cristian, On 01 May 2000 at 13:05:19 GMT +0300 (which was 11:05 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": What kind of logic is that ? "Normal" IMHO. Previous is up in the list. Next is down in the list. This is true of so many item

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Cristian, On 01 May 2000 at 14:04:36 GMT +0300 (which was 12:04 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": If they were named "up" and "down", that would be more flexible. But they are. "Previous" is a synonym for "Up" in this context as

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello tracer, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 3:04:54 PM, you wrote: 14. Account polling It would be nice to be able to poll any and all accounts into one in TB! instead of creating more than one at home. HUH? I have this suspicion that this one surprised you Steve... And not sure myself

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Jast, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 3:59:43 PM, you wrote: (as an example). This should possibly be done with any field. It should stop the problem of reading the reply in a thread before the question (and thus save the girls on this list a few early wrinkles). Have you tried threading by

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Steve, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 5:00:00 PM, you wrote: He meant that if you are in a miling list's folder, and hit CTRL+N, the new message should be automagically addressed to the list. I am aware of that. You define a template for that folder to add the mailing list address.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Roel
Hi Eberhard On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:39:53 +0200GMT (which was 30/04/00, 17:39 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: EH What I mean is: use one account at home, on this here PC. Download all EH mail from different remote servers into this one account. This will be implemented in Version 2... :-) --

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Eberhard, On 01 May 2000 at 13:31:07 GMT +0200 (which was 12:31 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": I have sent this mail yesterday but it has been refused bcs I attached a small JPG to it showing the problems of sorting with Vew by

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 6:43, Eberhard Hafermalz wrote about "Re[2]: TB! WishList": It's already there and is called "MIME forwarding". Have a look at Account options-- Templates-- Forwarding. Indeed - never would have suspected it there in the first place but it is there.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 7:26, Eberhard Hafermalz wrote about "Re[2]: TB! WishList": a) Is it possible to change the order of folders in any account? Alt-dragging. BTW, _this_ is covered in the online help;-) b) I have tried the "thread by reference" option. It doesn't really work

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 13:31, Eberhard Hafermalz wrote about "Re[2]: TB! WishList": Enable Auto-Format. When allied with Auto-Wrap, that's what it does. Nope, it doesn't. At least not the way it should. Try it. Type a line with less chars than the wrap limit. Press RETURN. Type

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Cristian Secara
On Mon, 1 May 2000 15:58:33 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Cristian, I think you miss the following point: when you browse the messages in a _separate_ window, there is a _hidden_ (by default) message list there (you need to tick View--Message List in the menus of this window to see it)

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:39:53 +0200, Eberhard Hafermalz wrote: Hypocrisy is the vaseline of social intercourse. Brilliant. -- © 2000 Allie Martin /*\ Using TB! v1.42 Beta/20 on Win2k Pro --- Urghm! - "Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. " --

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:31:55 +0200, Eberhard Hafermalz wrote: He meant that if you are in a miling list's folder, and hit CTRL+N, the new message should be automagically addressed to the list. I am aware of that. You define a template for that folder to add the mailing list address.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 13:32:00 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: I also noticed one annoying thing about The Bat!: the blue cursor bar over the message list remains still as I go further and read more messages. After reading, say, 20 messages in the list, I can no more say where I am with the

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 01 May 2000 16:17:52 +0300, Cristian Secara wrote: 8 Hm ... what's the use for keeping those message lists separately each other ? Flexibility? I thread some of my view folder message listing while I keep the mail list unthreaded. If there was only one list then I couldn't do this.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Jast
Morning Eberhard, a) Is it possible to change the order of folders in any account? Yes. Either hold alt and drag them or press the folder view header and it gets sorted alphabetically. b) I have tried the "thread by reference" option. It doesn't really work that well, does it. IMHO, it

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Jast
Morning Eberhard, I open the New mail and type: Smith - and hit TAB. Nothing happens. Typing Joe leads to the same result. this form of auto-completion only works with nicks recorded in address book. the other form is typing a phrase, and if it is in the list of recently used addresses,

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 16:17, Cristian Secara wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Cristian, I think you miss the following point: when you browse the messages in a _separate_ window, there is a _hidden_ (by default) message list there (you need to tick View--Message List in the menus of

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Cristian Secara
On Mon, 1 May 2000 13:20:47 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: "Normal" IMHO. Previous is up in the list. Next is down in the list. Next is *not* intuitive. When I am saying "what's next ?" I mean what's new. What's the new message that follows in time, not down in the list, where the newer

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 8:40, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": And, again, how can I keep them synchronized (at least the cursor movement) ? This is a pet peeve of mine. The cursor movement should be synchronised and would make you a lot more comfortable, not having

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 17:59:21 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: This is a pet peeve of mine. The cursor movement should be synchronised and would make you a lot more comfortable, not having to use two message lists. Nah, I don't like this idea. Suppose I'm working with the separate folder

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 17:47:53 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: 8 Finally, the sad fact that _you_ find no use for the separate message list doesn't mean _others_ don't need it. I find it pretty cool to be able to efficiently work with one and the same folder sorted differently. This isn't

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 16:54, Cristian Secara wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Next is *not* intuitive. When I am saying "what's next ?" I mean what's new. What is your native language? I'm just curious, since when _I_ say "what's next?" (in Russian: þÔÏ ÄÁÌØÛÅ?), _I_ usually mean

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 9:18, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Nah, I don't like this idea. Suppose I'm working with the separate folder view (separate window), and now I want to look at yet another message _in the same_ folder. Now I just go to the three-pane view,

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 9:24, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Finally, the sad fact that _you_ find no use for the separate message list doesn't mean _others_ don't need it. I find it pretty cool to be able to efficiently work with one and the same folder sorted

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Sunday, April 30, 2000, 8:39:53 AM, Eberhard wrote: Now you can say: Duh... stupid, create some filters and do it with one real and one pass-through account at home. Sure, that's possible, but inconvenient to have to check all external accounts manually (or use a different key) isn't it.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Sunday, April 30, 2000, 9:31:55 AM, Eberhard wrote: He meant that if you are in a miling list's folder, and hit CTRL+N, the new message should be automagically addressed to the list. I am aware of that. You define a template for that folder to add the mailing list address. you hit

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Sunday, April 30, 2000, 10:26:15 PM, Eberhard wrote: a) Is it possible to change the order of folders in any account? Yes. RTFM. Oh, a general note before wrapping this one. I am positively surprised by the quality of this list. I had expected some RTFM mails but none so far. Thanks for

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:05:19 AM, Cristian wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:26:38 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Oddly enough it works exactly as you described for me. How is that ? You did read the rest of the message, right? ... What, you weren't aware that the message window doesn't inheirit

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 4:04:36 AM, Cristian wrote: Yes, but in the *received* list, not in my own displayed list. And it follows a reverse logic ("next" brings the previous in time message). No, it /is/ in the list given. *sigh* In the folder view (It is not a message view) turn on

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 4:31:07 AM, Eberhard wrote: 3. Extremely important: Mailing List Support %TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TBUDL[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hahaaa! Thanks! It works! =B-D Gee, and a while ago when I wrote that folder templates did it you replied that it didn't have anything to do

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Cristian, On 01 May 2000 at 16:54:58 GMT +0300 (which was 14:54 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": "Normal" IMHO. Previous is up in the list. Next is down in the list. Next is *not* intuitive. For you, maybe. When I am saying

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 6:17:52 AM, Cristian wrote: I find no real use of this hidden message list, as it occupies a lot of space from the window. The window becomes like the preview pane - in fact this is the reason I opened the message separately, to have more space. Reduce the size of

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 6:54:58 AM, Cristian wrote: Next is *not* intuitive. To you. When I am saying "what's next ?" I mean what's new. What's the new message that follows in time, not down in the list, where the newer message is up. In received descending that would be previous.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 01 May 2000 at 08:10:04 GMT -0700 (which was 16:10 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": Monday, May 01, 2000, 4:31:07 AM, Eberhard wrote: 3. Extremely important: Mailing List Support %TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TBUDL[EMAIL

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 8:22:51 AM, Marck wrote: i.e. everything coincided. GAAA. *thud* I hate English. Pardon me as I go back to Perl where I can grok it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:42:14 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Take for example. I wish to display the TBUDL view folder list in thread mode but not for other folders. I can't seem to do this. If I set the view folder for TBUDL to threading, all other folders view folder message lists do the

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 08:21:37 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: You are making an illogical jump in logic. You're stating "Well, I want to read the next message in the thread so I press next, right?" No. Previous/next, just like up/down, are relative to your position in the message list and the

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 16:22, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": %TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TBUDL[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hahaaa! Thanks! It works! =B-D Gee, and a while ago when I wrote that folder templates did it you replied that it didn't have anything to do

date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Pim Slim
Hoi TBUDL-readers, In my message list the date-time format used in 'created' and 'received' looks like this: 30 apr 2000, 18:19. Is there a way of changing this in e.g. 30-4-00, 18:19 or are these settings fixed? -- doeidoei, Pim Slim

Re: Drag and drop

2000-05-01 Thread Tom Plunket
t test: That doesn't always work. Try doing that in TB's Template editors. Wow, I can't believe that they just didn't put the same window type into all the edit windows, so the editor quirks you have to learn work everywhere. Makes sense to me. ahh well, perhaps next time? -tom! -- Hopin'

Re: date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 15:38, Pim Slim wrote about "date-time formatting": Hoi TBUDL-readers, Your greeting line (specifically the first word of it) sounds a bit... hmmm... eccentric for the Russian ear;-) Or was it intended to sound this way? In my message list the date-time

Re[2]: date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Pim Slim
On 1-5-2000, 21:02:27, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: AVK Your greeting line (specifically the first word of it) sounds a bit... hmmm... AVK eccentric for the Russian ear;-) Or was it intended to sound this way? Hoi Alexander, No intention was meant. 'Hoi' simply means 'hi' in Dutch. I hope I

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Stephen
Dear Bat folk Hm ... what's the use for keeping those message lists separately each other ? Flexibility? I thread some of my view folder message listing while I keep the mail list unthreaded. If there was only one list then I couldn't do this. IMO the Bat-cave of sorting and navigation

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Randy Robinson
Hello Lionel, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote: LEM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- LEM Hash: SHA1 LEM Hello rellieb-cal, LEM Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs LEM Yes, you do. You've found the one

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 7:34, Stephen wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Flexibility? I thread some of my view folder message listing while I keep the mail list unthreaded. If there was only one list then I couldn't do this. snip So I think the title bar should at least say

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 18:05, Randy Robinson wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'": You've found the one thing I hate about TheBat! It's the best program around, but I guess you can't have everything! It has a very strange idea of what autoformatting is. I wanted

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:05:33 -0500, Randy Robinson wrote: Hello Lionel, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote: LEM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- LEM Hash: SHA1 LEM Hello rellieb-cal, LEM Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 03:23:31 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Well, it's of course less then perfect, but it can be _easily_ fixed (at least, temporarily). The quick fix should be this one: "do not autoformat indented lines plus never remove the spaces in the beginning of any line". That's

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Cristian Secara
On Mon, 1 May 2000 17:47:53 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: That's a question of (English) terminology, so I cannot comment it further. The programmer of PMMail is an US citizen. I trust his English terminology :) And, again, how can I keep them synchronized (at least the cursor movement) ?

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Eberhard, On Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 17:39:53 GMT +0200 (which was 8:39 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello tracer, Sunday, April 30, 2000, 3:04:54 PM, you wrote: 14. Account polling It would be nice to be able to poll any and all accounts into one in TB! instead

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 02 May 2000 03:43:42 +0300, Cristian Secara wrote: 8 There are few lists where I usually read 10-20 messages, then close the message window and like to see where the cursor has stopped. Then I try to estimate how many messages on a given topic are left. Depending on that number, I

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Stephen, On Tue, 2 May 2000 07:34:04 +1000GMT (02/05/2000, 05:34 +0800GMT), Stephen wrote: S So I think the title bar should at least say something like - S View Folder Bat of ServNet Sorted by Receive Time (Ascending) ServNet - Bat View Folder (...) Why not mention the name fo the