Re: address book

2000-12-14 Thread Beat Strasser

Hi Hilary

 address book, there were no entries in it.  Before I re-installed TB!,
 I kept a copy of all the files from my previous installation of TB!.
 Is there a way that I can bring back my old address book?

Yes.  Go  to  the address book and choose 'File/Open address book...'.
Then  look  for a file something.ABD in your backup directory and open
it. This will restore your addresses.

Hope, it works.

So short,
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Re: Wishlist: Search expansion

2000-12-14 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Karin,

...
KS 1. In a new edition of TB's search facility, could we
KShave extra information detailing the whereabouts of
KSfound messages (describing the mail folder in which
KSthey are located)?
KSOften you'd like to know *where* it was found.

Right click on any of the result column headers and enjoy ;-)

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Re[2]: AND condition in filtering

2000-12-14 Thread epp


It works now. Thanks Januk. :)

Best regards,
   epp
   
Wednesday, December 13, 2000, 9:52:46 PM, Januk wrote:

I want to make INBOX filter with this condition:
If my address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT in RECEPINET field
AND
my address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT in RECEPINET field
DO SOMETHING.

This will not be problem with "OR" statement but I dont know how to
use "and" statement in this example.

JA In each set (main set or any of the alternative sets), the AND
JA operator is handled by ADDING a string.  So in the main set, click the
JA ADD button and you'll get another line to put an additional condition.
JA This condition is a AND condition.

JA Does that answer your question?



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Re: Wishlist: Search expansion

2000-12-14 Thread Karin Spaink

On 13-12-2000 at 15:53, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote:
 Hello Karin

Currently, we can only search for one condition, but not
for two (or more).

 Another needed feature 
 The same goes for ...
 And ... would also be welcome.

It seems that you took the oppurtunity to expand on the
wishes, while wishing an expansion to search ;-)



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(No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread George F. Schoelles

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Hello Bat Users,

Is there a way to modify/Add X-Headers in The Bat!

  

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(No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread George F. Schoelles

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Is there a manual other than the help-file?
  

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Re: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Ming-Li

On Wednesday, December 13, 2000, 4:54:12 AM, Jan wrote:

On 11 Dec 11:52PM, I rcvd a msg created on 12 Dec 12:04AM. I
believe this file was created in the US.

One of you (or both) has a slightly inaccurate PC clock. What's the
problem?

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Re: (No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread Manfred Ell

On 14-12-2000 at 06:32:36GMT -0800 (which was 14:32 where I live)
George F. Schoelles wrote regarding the subject of "(No Subject)"


George Hello Bat Users,

George Is there a way to modify/Add X-Headers in The Bat!

  


Hello George F.,

Only via external filter programs like Hamster/Korrnews and X-Ray.

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Re: The Bat! - bug report - error while reading message base

2000-12-14 Thread Ming-Li

On Wednesday, December 13, 2000, 2:45:01 PM, Krzysztof wrote:

   Steps to reproduce the bug:
 Create  a  filter  that works against messages with attachment and
 associates  it  to  a  color group. After you receive such message
 highlight  it  and try to delete the attachment. The mentioned box
 appears.  In  my  configuration, attachments are stored in message
 bodies.

Confirmed. If you answer "Yes" when TB asks to fix the message base,
the attachment would be deleted as desired and nothing else seems to
happen.

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Re[2]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

On 11 Dec 11:52PM, I rcvd a msg created on 12 Dec 12:04AM. I
believe this file was created in the US.

ML One of you (or both) has a slightly inaccurate PC clock. What's the
ML problem?

How about an option for the bat which would get current time from one
of the many site locations.  This could happen at startup, mail
receive/send what ever.

I use one of these products and know my system is *always* sync'd but
it would be a nice feature.


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Re: (No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread Manfred Ell

On 14-12-2000 at 06:46:23GMT -0800 (which was 14:46 where I live)
George F. Schoelles wrote regarding the subject of "(No Subject)"


George Is there a manual other than the help-file?


Hello George F.,

Nope.

But you have the specialists of this list at your disposal ;-)
And you have an online FAQ at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html

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Re[3]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello David,

   In a post time stamped re: "created v rcvd time anomoly" you
   wrote:

David [...] an option for the bat which would get current time from
David one of the many site locations. [...] I use one of these
David products [...]

   While the programmers consider your suggestion, which product(s)
   in this category do you recommend? The Bouvs wanna know.

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Re: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi David,

On 14 December 2000 at 07:01:39 -0800 (which was 15:01 where I
live) David Tod Sigafoos wrote and made these points:

On 11 Dec 11:52PM, I rcvd a msg created on 12 Dec 12:04AM. I
believe this file was created in the US.

ML One of you (or both) has a slightly inaccurate PC clock. What's the
ML problem?

DTS How about an option for the bat which would get current time from
DTS one of the many site locations. This could happen at startup,
DTS mail receive/send what ever.

That's not going to help with the "created time" on a received message
- -  the topic being discussed :-). Now, if there were a time synch tool
that  could affect someone *else's* PC remotely whenever they send you
a message ... well!

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Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread Jamie Dainton

Hello George F. Schoelles,

GFS Is there a manual other than the help-file?

Not at the moment. I'm gradually trying to compile a sort of help file
from the archives. I'm trying to find a good amount of non-copyrighted
regular expression manuals. Currently I'm thinking of using the Linux
man pages. I'll release a preview soon in Postscript format.

BTW Not bad a signal to sig ratio of 1:30
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Re: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

On Thursday, December 14, 2000, 4:01:39 PM, David Tod Sigafoos wrote:

 How about an option for the bat which would get current time from
 one of the many site locations. This could happen at startup, mail
 receive/send what ever.

I object. The Bat should not become a NTP (network time protocol)
client. Everybody wanting to have an accurate local time on his/her
machine may decide to install an NTP client separately.

Regards,

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Re: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread Manfred Ell

On 14-12-2000 at 15:43:23GMT + (which was 15:43 where I live)
Jamie Dainton wrote regarding the subject of "Help file (Look you can type a subject 
in.)"


Jamie Not at the moment. I'm gradually trying to compile a sort of help file
Jamie from the archives. I'm trying to find a good amount of non-copyrighted
Jamie regular expression manuals. Currently I'm thinking of using the Linux
Jamie man pages. I'll release a preview soon in Postscript format.


Hello Jamie,

We'll all be eternally grateful! If you need someone to create PDF's let me
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Re: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread Nick Danger

Ref Subject: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)
From: Manfred Ell

Hi Manfred,

M We'll all be eternally grateful!

Wow,  speak for yourself there Manfred.  While I think Jamie is just
swell I'm not sure I want to be 'eternally' plagued with having to suck
up to him!  ;-)

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Re[2]: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread Jamie Dainton

Hello Manfred Ell,
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:15:07 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, December 14, 2000, 16:15:07 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

Manfred Ell wrote:

ME We'll all be eternally grateful! If you need someone to create PDF's let me
ME know.



I've got all the distiller software already. I was going to use
Postscript level 2 as people with postscript printers will not need
additional software. Also the files can be renamed with a prn
extension and Windows should be able to use them. The final copy will
be released as a PDF. If anyone has anything they would like to see or
have already written mail it offlist.

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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey
 
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Sorry

2000-12-14 Thread Fred Weissman

Please excuse my test message.
I was in the wrong folder went I created it.

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Re: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread George F. Schoelles

Hello Jamie,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 7:43:23 AM, you wrote:

JD Not at the moment. I'm gradually trying to compile a sort of help file
JD from the archives. I'm trying to find a good amount of non-copyrighted
JD regular expression manuals. Currently I'm thinking of using the Linux
JD man pages. I'll release a preview soon in Postscript format.

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Actually the expression stuff is a bit too much for an average user as
myself.  I'm more interested in Keyboard and Short-cut templates.
Information that tells you about features with-out list assistance and
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Re[2]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Hello Marck,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 7:48:29 AM, you wrote:

MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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MDP Hi David,

MDP On 14 December 2000 at 07:01:39 -0800 (which was 15:01 where I
MDP live) David Tod Sigafoos wrote and made these points:

On 11 Dec 11:52PM, I rcvd a msg created on 12 Dec 12:04AM. I
believe this file was created in the US.

ML One of you (or both) has a slightly inaccurate PC clock. What's the
ML problem?

DTS How about an option for the bat which would get current time from
DTS one of the many site locations. This could happen at startup,
DTS mail receive/send what ever.

MDP That's not going to help with the "created time" on a received message
MDP - -  the topic being discussed :-). Now, if there were a time synch tool
MDP that  could affect someone *else's* PC remotely whenever they send you
MDP a message ... well!

oh .. and all this time i thought it would update someone elses system

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Re[2]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Hello Markus,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 7:54:08 AM, you wrote:

MG Hi,

MG On Thursday, December 14, 2000, 4:01:39 PM, David Tod Sigafoos wrote:

 How about an option for the bat which would get current time from
 one of the many site locations. This could happen at startup, mail
 receive/send what ever.

MG I object. The Bat should not become a NTP (network time protocol)
MG client. Everybody wanting to have an accurate local time on his/her
MG machine may decide to install an NTP client separately.

I object too

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Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Alexander Turcic

Hi,

In the past I used Yahoo's Mail-/Newsticker. What is nice about it is
that you can stick it to any place on your desktop. Especially two
locations are useful (so I found):
1. the tasktray
2. the top line on the desktop where a window's titelbar is located.

Unfortunately, TB's Mailticker cannot be put in the tasktray. And
though you can stick it to the top of the desktop, it is not as nice
as with Yahoo; TB's ticker is simply too big! Why does it have to tell
me "0 new message" in a space that occupies three lines? Because of
this big black spot in the top of my desktop, I cannot read the menu
commands of the underlying running program anymore.

So please dear TB programmers give the ticker a little cosmetic change
to make it practically more useful.

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Re[4]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

David [...] an option for the bat which would get current time from
David one of the many site locations. [...] I use one of these
David products [...]

JRWhile the programmers consider your suggestion, which product(s)
JRin this category do you recommend? The Bouvs wanna know.

Jan,

There are a couple .. One I have used for a long time is called Atomic
Clock from parsons Technology.  They are now part of mattelinteractive
so not sure their product is still around.

The one I am testing is Clockwise .. www.jrsoftware.com  It has some
nice features.  It costs 29$.  As I said I have just started testing
it but will be happy to let you know.

(later that same morning .. didn't even know I was gone did you :-)

Actually Atomic Clock is still available at

http://www.mattelinteractive.com/store/product.asp?OID=4142355SC=0120056015CID=99

Seems they have enhanced it with a lot of additional features.
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Re[4]: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Jan

On Thursday, December 14, 2000, Jan wrote the following on the
subject "created v rcvd time anomoly"

While the programmers consider your suggestion, which product(s)
in this category do you recommend? The Bouvs wanna know.

AboutTime  was  recommended  here  once,  works  great and is CareWare
(free).

http://www.arachnoid.com/abouttime/index.html

Later,

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Re: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Hilary Franklin

 Unfortunately, TB's Mailticker cannot be put in the tasktray. And
 though you can stick it to the top of the desktop, it is not as nice
 as with Yahoo; TB's ticker is simply too big! Why does it have to tell
 me "0 new message" in a space that occupies three lines? Because of
 this big black spot in the top of my desktop, I cannot read the menu
 commands of the underlying running program anymore.

Alexander, perhaps you already knew this option, but in case you
didn't: you can right-click on the mail ticker and choose "Thin View,"
which effectively puts the ticker on a diet.  It's still not the ideal
size, but it helps.

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Re[2]: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Alexander Turcic

Hello Hilary,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 7:46:15 PM, you wrote:

 Unfortunately, TB's Mailticker cannot be put in the tasktray. And
 though you can stick it to the top of the desktop, it is not as nice
 as with Yahoo; TB's ticker is simply too big! Why does it have to tell
 me "0 new message" in a space that occupies three lines? Because of
 this big black spot in the top of my desktop, I cannot read the menu
 commands of the underlying running program anymore.

HF Alexander, perhaps you already knew this option, but in case you
HF didn't: you can right-click on the mail ticker and choose "Thin View,"
HF which effectively puts the ticker on a diet.  It's still not the ideal
HF size, but it helps.

HF ~ Hilary


HF ~~
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HF ~~

Hi Hilary,

yes I knew this option :) In fact, when I talked about "three lines" I
was referring to the "thin" version.

The size of standard non-"thin" is really absurd for a ticker in my
point of view.

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Re[3]: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Fusiontunes


 ''you  can right-click on the mail ticker and choose HF "Thin View,"
HF  which  effectively  puts the ticker on a diet. It's still not the
ideal"""



Hello,  I  see  that  you  can right click on the message scroller and
choose several different fonts sizes and styles as well.. All of these
will affect the size of the the ticker also..

Best regards,
Fusiontunes.


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Re[4]: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Alexander Turcic

Hello Fusiontunes,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 8:47:34 PM, you wrote:

F Hello,  I  see  that  you  can right click on the message scroller and
F choose several different fonts sizes and styles as well.. All of these
F will affect the size of the the ticker also..

Thats true... but even with fond size 8 the ticker is wider than the
title bar of a standard window of the underlying program. What I think
should/could be changed is the wide boarder above and below the text
line of the ticker. E.g. look at any title bar of a windows program.
That is the size the ticker should have so that 100% of it can stick
on top of the underlying title bar. Then underlying menus could still
be still visible  accessible ... :)

Alex

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Clumsy clumsy Mailticker again

2000-12-14 Thread Fusiontunes

""What  I  think should/could be changed is the wide boarder above and
below the text line of the ticker."""


Hello,

I  agree,  It  seems  like  it  wouldnt  be  that big of a deal to fix
something  like  that..  I  am  suprised  they  overlooked  it..  I am
constantly moving mine around to get to the buttons..

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Re: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Karin Spaink

On 14-12-2000 at 21:38, Alexander Turcic kindly wrote:

 Thats true... but even with fond size 8 the ticker is wider than the
 title bar of a standard window of the underlying program. What I think
 should/could be changed is the wide boarder above and below the text
 line of the ticker.

You can squeez your ticker into a 1 cm x 3 cm box. That's
hardly intrusive


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Re: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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On 14 December 2000 at 19:34:05 +0100 (which was 18:34 where I
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AT TB's ticker is simply too big! Why does it have to tell me "0 new
AT message" in a space that occupies three lines?

...  erm, how about the "Show automatically" setting? Mine never tells
me "0 new messages". Also, you don't have to dock it to be full width.
Mine  lives  somewhere  near the bottom right of my screen and gets in
the way of next to nothing.

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Re: (No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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GFS Is there a way to modify/Add X-Headers in The Bat!

You could add it as a comment.

%Comment="X-Header here"

or you could enter it via the editor:

In the editor window go to View - Comments.

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Re: Help file (Look you can type a subject in.)

2000-12-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hi Jamie,

On 12/14/2000 at 7:43 AM witnesses say Jamie Dainton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 
 I'm trying to find a good amount of non-copyrighted
 regular expression manuals. Currently I'm thinking of using the Linux
 man pages.

As far as I know, the Help in the TB helpfile on regexps are *exactly*
the same as the man pages.  RITLabs just used the standard PCRE man
pages.

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Re: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi David,

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:01:39 -0800GMT (14/12/2000, 23:01 +0800GMT),
David Tod Sigafoos wrote:

DTS How about an option for the bat which would get current time from one
DTS of the many site locations.  This could happen at startup, mail
DTS receive/send what ever.

TB is an email client. Do not make it a circus, like those monolithic
MS products.

DTS I use one of these products and know my system is *always* sync'd but
DTS it would be a nice feature.

There are enough freeware synch proggies around. I personally use
AboutTime (URL already submitted by Terry Mundis). I think integrating
this funcitonality into an MUA is pure bloatware.

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Re: created v rcvd time anomoly

2000-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Marck,

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:48:29 +GMT (14/12/2000, 23:48 +0800GMT),
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

DTS How about an option for the bat which would get current time from
DTS one of the many site locations. This could happen at startup,
DTS mail receive/send what ever.

MDP That's not going to help with the "created time" on a received message
MDP - -  the topic being discussed :-). Now, if there were a time synch tool
MDP that  could affect someone *else's* PC remotely whenever they send you
MDP a message ... well!

Sure. I dare you try to change my PC clock when you *receive* an email
from me. Go ahead, through my firewall, right after my grandmother
(whose PC clock runs different from yours) has changed it, and by the
way, I just went offline after I sent my mail, so good luck... ;-)

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Re: How to remove warning when opening attachments

2000-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Beat,

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:26:01 +0100GMT (14/12/2000, 04:26 +0800GMT),
Beat Strasser wrote:

BS ...and how it is possible to change the default button of this message
BS box to 'Yes: I want to save the file instead of opening it!' ?

Right-clicking not conveneient? That's what I do. ;-)

BS Because I consider this as a security bug. You easily hit enter... and
BS you open a program you didn't really want to run...

I hardly ever have the focus on the attachment, therefore hitting
"enter" will usually result in the focussed message being opened in a
new View Folder but won't open an attachment. I would have to actually
clcik onto the attachment icon (or move there with the TAB key) to get
it in focus.

Therefore, I don't see a security risk.

In addition, you can add *.* to ProtectWarnOpen, so that you get
warned if the file extension is not explictely allowed or disabled.

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Re[2]: (No Subject)

2000-12-14 Thread George F. Schoelles

Hello A.,

Thursday, December 14, 2000, 3:15:38 PM, you wrote:

GFS Is there a way to modify/Add X-Headers in The Bat!

ACM You could add it as a comment.

ACM %Comment="X-Header here"

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Re: Single-user mode in multi-user environment

2000-12-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Karin,

On  Fri, 15 Dec 2000  at  04:38:50 GMT +0100 (CET) (which was 7:38 PM
where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed:

 Is there a way to make TB behave as in a single-user environment, disregard
 the various NT users, and let me fix the rest with file permissions and the 
 like?

Probably your best option is to have a logout script that records the
TB registry keys.  Then, instead of launching TB directly, use a
script to first import the reg keys, then launch TB.  At the end of
this message you'll find the batch file version of what I'm thinking.

The only problem I can see is if your NT user accounts don't have
regedit permission.  Also I'm not sure how well Batch files work under
Windows NT, but I'm sure you could translate it to the appropriate
scripting language.

The not so nice way is to create all the accounts in TB under your
administrator account.  Then log into NT with the different accounts.
Now when you do the TB install, create the appropriate accounts, but
just point them to the folders you already created.

-Begin Batch file-
@echo off
rem -
rem - The TB setting import and launching script.   -
rem -   -
rem -  Written by Januk Aggarwal  December 2000 -
rem -
cls

rem -
rem - Switch to TB Mail Directory.  -
rem - You'll need to change this to suit your needs -
rem -
:switch
   c:
   cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\Mail\

rem -
rem - Import Registry Settings. -
rem - This assumes that you're keeping the registry settings file   -
rem -  in the main Mail folder  -
rem -
:import
   echo.
   echo Importing Registry Settings
   echo.
   if not exist TBbckup.reg goto error
   start /w regedit TBbckup.reg
   
rem -
rem - Launch The Bat!   -
rem - This assumes that TB lives in C:\"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\  -
rem - You may also want to add command line parameters as you prefer-
rem -
:run
   echo.
   echo Launching The Bat!
   echo.
   c:
   cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\
   thebat.exe
   exit

:error
   echo Could not find registry settings.  Exiting...
   exit

 End Batch File 

-Begin Batch file-
@echo off
rem -
rem - The TB setting export script. -
rem -   -
rem -  Written by Januk Aggarwal  December 2000 -
rem -   -
rem -   This code borrows heavily from my previous backup script-
rem -   available at www.egroups.com on the TBOT files page -
rem -
cls

rem -
rem - Switch to TB Mail Directory.  -
rem - You'll need to change this to suit your needs -
rem -
:switch
   c:
   cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\Mail\

rem -
rem - Export Registry Settings. -
rem - This assumes that you're keeping the registry settings file   -
rem -  in the main Mail folder  -
rem -
:continue
   if not exist TBbckup2.reg goto export
   echo Your previous backup is being stored in TBbckup2.reg
   echo.
   if exist TBbckup.reg del TBbckup2.reg

:export
   if exist TBbckup.reg rename TBbckup.reg TBbckup2.reg
   start /w regedit /e TBbckup.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!"
   echo.
   exit

 End Batch File 

It's been a while since I've written any DOS scripts.  Please let me
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2000-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi George,

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:23:24 -0800GMT (15/12/2000, 12:23 +0800GMT),
George F. Schoelles wrote:

ACM %Comment="X-Header here"

GFS Were would this go?  In a template or.?

Yes. %Comment is a template macro. ;-)

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Re: Single-user mode in multi-user environment

2000-12-14 Thread Karin Spaink

 Januk kindly wrote: 
 Karin Spaink typed:

 Is there a way to make TB behave as in a single-user environment, 
 disregard the various NT users, and let me fix the rest with file 
 permissions and the like?
 
 Probably your best option is to have a logout script that records the
 TB registry keys.  Then, instead of launching TB directly, use a
 script to first import the reg keys, then launch TB.  At the end of
 this message you'll find the batch file version of what I'm thinking.

Meanwhile I've been doing some checking and thinking, and an older posting
in the TBUDL archives gave me an intersting hint.

What if I install TB as NT administrator, put in all the NT and TB users, 
assign them their rights within TB, and *then* copy the entire RIT key from 
my user registry into each and every NT user's registry?

 The only problem I can see is if your NT user accounts don't have
 regedit permission.  Also I'm not sure how well Batch files work under
 Windows NT, but I'm sure you could translate it to the appropriate
 scripting language.

I don't think that later user registry changes need to be reflected 
systemwide. I'll try, anyway.

 The not so nice way is to create all the accounts in TB under your
 administrator account.  Then log into NT with the different accounts.
 Now when you do the TB install, create the appropriate accounts, but
 just point them to the folders you already created.

If all else fails I'll try that, too.

 -Begin Batch file-
 @echo off
 rem -
 rem - The TB setting import and launching script.   -
 rem -   -
 rem -  Written by Januk Aggarwal  December 2000 -
 rem -
 cls

You're such a doll. I'll be back with live reports from the scene ;-)
 

- K -


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Re: Single-user mode in multi-user environment

2000-12-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Karin,

On  Fri, 15 Dec 2000  at  05:48:06 GMT +0100 (CET) (which was 8:48 PM
where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed:

 Meanwhile I've been doing some checking and thinking, and an older posting
 in the TBUDL archives gave me an intersting hint.

 What if I install TB as NT administrator, put in all the NT and TB users, 
 assign them their rights within TB, and *then* copy the entire RIT key from 
 my user registry into each and every NT user's registry?

That was my intention with the batch file.  However, I did not make
that clear.  Sorry.

 I don't think that later user registry changes need to be reflected
 systemwide. I'll try, anyway.

Depends how you implement the solution.  If you want the User's
accounts to be updated *every* time they run TB, then you'll need to
give this script file registry access.  I have no idea how you'd go
about doing that since I don't use NT.

 If all else fails I'll try that, too.

Copying the registry key from one account to the others should do this
automatically.

 -Begin Batch file-
 @echo off
 rem -
 rem - The TB setting import and launching script.   -
 rem -   -
 rem -  Written by Januk Aggarwal  December 2000 -
 rem -
 cls

 You're such a doll. I'll be back with live reports from the scene ;-)
 
Thanks.  I haven't written a DOS batch file in a while, it's nice to
use a primitive language occasionally..

 

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Thanks for writing,
 Januk Aggarwal

 Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/12
 under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A 

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Re[2]: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Alexander Turcic


MDP ...  erm, how about the "Show automatically" setting? Mine never tells
MDP me "0 new messages". Also, you don't have to dock it to be full width.
MDP Mine  lives  somewhere  near the bottom right of my screen and gets in
MDP the way of next to nothing.

Why don't you just look at the yahoo ticker to see what I mean. OF
COURSE there are ways to avoid the problem such as using "show
automatically" or not to dock. But both are just way-around solutions
if you'd (or me in that case) like to use one of these features
mentioned before.

Fact is that TB offers "show always" and docking, and for that it
could implement those two better -- like they are when you look how
they implemented in other products.

I am not trying to make the TB ticker look entirely bad; I am just
trying to give some thoughts on how to make it better and to make ALL
of its features practically useful.

But if no one else thinks that this is important then I will simply
not use the ticker and keep my mouth shut.

Alex



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Re: Single-user mode in multi-user environment

2000-12-14 Thread Karin Spaink

Januk kindly wrote:
 Karin Spaink typed:

 Meanwhile I've been doing some checking and thinking, and an older 
 posting in the TBUDL archives gave me an intersting hint.
 What if I install TB as NT administrator, put in all the NT and TB 
 users, assign them their rights within TB, and *then* copy the entire 
 RIT key from my user registry into each and every NT user's registry?

 That was my intention with the batch file.  However, I did not make
 that clear.  Sorry.

You *did* make it clear, perfectly clear. The funny thing was that 
meanwhile our thoughts were going in the same direction, but since I
am not used to writing into the registry I was about to look up previous
postings on the subject. You were far ahead of me.

 I don't think that later user registry changes need to be reflected
 systemwide. I'll try, anyway.

 Depends how you implement the solution.  If you want the User's
 accounts to be updated *every* time they run TB, then you'll need to
 give this script file registry access.

I need to check whether TB writes so much to the registry that needs 
cross-user access. I'll set up all users, implement the basic filters, 
set their address books to all use the same file and that might be 
sufficient (said she, praying to The Bat, o thy swan of the night!).

 I have no idea how you'd go about doing that since I don't use NT.

It's quite a hassle. Basically, users may *not* write to their registry,
so updates such as this are a bit cumbersome.

What I did was this:

- as NT administrator, set up user accounts in TB, and set their
  folders in directories that only the respective user can read;
- export the TB keys from the registry
- make user A administrator
- log on as NT user A and update his registry 
- log on as NT administrator
- make user A a user again.
This procedure has to be applied to each user.

After this I checked how user permissions would work. Being userA 
(by now deprived of his NT admin rights) I started TB as userA. 
Excellent: all I could see was userA's mail (and the shared mail). 
Then I tried to log in as userB and got lots of errors about not 
being able to read mailboxes. Ha. NT had kicked in and, being userA, 
it disallowed me to see userB's mailboxes. I could only see the 
account name, nothing more.

The number of error messages that you get is proportional to the
number of mailboxes; which will surely dissuade people from trying
to use other people's TB accounts.

 You're such a doll. I'll be back with live reports from the scene ;-)
  
 Thanks.  I haven't written a DOS batch file in a while, it's nice to
 use a primitive language occasionally..

purr, purr 

(that's me expressing my primitive thanks to Januk)
 

- K -



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Re: Killing Reply To All for lists

2000-12-14 Thread SyP

Hello Brian,
 
You wrote on 12/15/2000, 12:53 AM:

Brian Is there any way, using templates, that I can force my address
Brian NOT to appear in the CC or To field when someone hits 'Reply To
Brian All' in their email client? I'd like to force a user to
Brian manually enter my address if they truly wish to CC me on list
Brian replies.

You may set Reply-To to the mailing list address. This is going to
work on some lists, and not on others (some lists aren't changing
Reply-To to the list address automatically - there it'll work; some
do, but backs up Reply-To to From, From to X-Sender - then it'll work
too; TBUDL  TBBETA simply replaces Reply-To with its address - there
it will not work.)

Just my .02 Fts.

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Re[5]: Clumsy clumsy Mailticker

2000-12-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov

Hello Alexander, 

AT Thats true... but even with fond size 8 the ticker is wider than the
AT title bar of a standard window of the underlying program.

Why don't you use Small Fonts? Size 5 looks very neat...


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