Re: SMTP servers
Hello Reza, On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:29:46 -0400 GMT (25/05/02, 02:29 +0700 GMT), Reza Habib wrote: RH Foxmail has a built in smtp server so it will relay your mail to the RH host directly, bypassing the isp. That would be a really cool feature RH for TB to adopt. You need to stay connected until the mail is actually delivered. Out of the question for me on per-minute dial-up. Same holds true for an SMTP server on my machine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
Hello Keith, On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:06:23 -0400 GMT (25/05/02, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Keith Rodrigues wrote: KR 2) Use a free email service that allows you to send from their KR smtp server, with authentication. I use myrealbox KR (www.myrealbox.com) for this. Set up an account with them, then KR enter their smtp server in the Bat! settings, authenticate using KR your username and password, and you can then send from all your KR accounts using the same smtp server, regardless of which ISP you KR happen to be connected to. You said it. I used myrealbox this for three years when I lived in Taiwan, and regardless which ISP I was connected to, it always delivered all my mails from any account. :-) No need to install an SMTP server on your computer. Leave the headache of connecting to POP servers all over the world to the people with the 24/7 connection and the broad bandwidth. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Dinner Special -- Turkey $2.35; Chicken or Beef $2.25; Children $2.00. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: thread view!
Hello Peter, On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:45:20 +0200 GMT (24/05/02, 20:45 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP More correct is: it's a not folder based view-filter, once applied valid PP for all folders you're about to browse to, until you release the filter PP (e.g. with Ctrl++) Or with the esc key. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My wife and I were happy for twenty years then we met. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Version chaos
Saturday, 25 May 2002 Hi RapidFX, On Fri, 24 May 2002, at 16:47:08 [GMT -0800] (which was 12:47 p.m. here in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote: R I can confirm issues with 1.60m and XP. R flaky is about the correct description also :) R Seems leaving Bat! open for lengths of time over 1-2 hours R or so, creates a bit of havoc with my system. No problems here and in fact I tend to leave TB going all the time. I have found though that XP needs lost of memory..I have 512MB of RAM. -- Regards, Chris Feel good? Don't worry; you'll get over it! Using The Bat! 1.60m E-Mail System with Windows XP Pro. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello Dave! On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 6:37:46 PM you wrote: Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue with Opera since 6.02? I didn't ever had any problems during the last months, when I betaed Opera 6.xx. But there have been reports - very few - that Opera could need a complete re-install after an un-install to be stable on certain systems. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60m on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Yes, *you* can make a difference. You just have to *do* something ... anything. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hi Dierk, Saturday, May 25, 2002, 8:50:42 AM, you wrote: Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue with Opera since 6.02? DH I didn't ever had any problems during the last months, when I betaed DH Opera 6.xx. But there have been reports - very few - that Opera could DH need a complete re-install after an un-install to be stable on certain DH systems. Had a strange experience a few days ago when I was surfing with Opera and I checked my mail in TB! at the same time I went back to Opera and my skin had disappeared (on Opera, not my own - LOL) and then a few minutes later I went to access my bookmarks and they were all gone. They were still in the Opera folder but not recognized. Anyway, I downloaded a new copy of 6.02 and reinstalled and then found my old bookmarks and installed them. All has been fine since. As it turned out, I found a nice new skin too ... minimalist, or something. Very small icons and stylish looking. It's been about 18 hours since my last sudden reboot, so am hoping that my system has cured itself! Weird. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
On Saturday, May 25, 2002, 03:18, Mark Wieder wrote: Any experience using The Bat! as a service under Windows NT / 2k server? No, sorry. I've currently got it configured as a System Task set to launch on restart, but that has the following problems: What do you mean by system task? So...I'm thinking of not running it as a System Task and running it as an NT service. Is anyone doing this now? Pros and cons of doing this? Would it even work that way? Would I be able to launch it from the desktop if the service is running in the background? Any other ideas? There is an option for services: Allow service to interact with desktop. Maybe this would help? I've never used it with TB! but I have with other programs and it worked like you seam to want it to. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
El viernes 24 de mayo de 2002, 22.18, Mark Wieder decía: MW Any experience using The Bat! as a service under Windows NT / 2k MW server? no, but TB is not a service. How do you want to do it? And, if you don't mind, why do you want to do it? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c This is a follow up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[4]: symultaneus pop3 check
El sábado 25 de mayo de 2002, 1.05, Jonathan Angliss decía: JA Might not be a TB thing... might be an ISP thing setting a rule saying only one JA connection at once from a single IP (odd rule, but you never know). I wouldn't JA see that TB! would have a problem as it opens a seperate socket connection for JA each connection attempt. I can give mine a test on Tuesday. thanks for any help. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c This is a follow up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
On Sat, 25 May 2002 09:25:22 -0300 Ricardo M. Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Any experience using The Bat! as a service under Windows NT / 2k MW server? no, but TB is not a service. How do you want to do it? Someday in the past I run TB! as Service in NT4 Server, I was using Firedaemon to run it as Service. And, if you don't mind, why do you want to do it? At that time I used it to check message live on my Mail Server (MDaemon), if message live more than certain days, TB! will remove it. I remove it after my Mail Server have this feature built in. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
On 25 May 2002, 13:25, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: no, but TB is not a service. How do you want to do it? And, if you don't mind, why do you want to do it? ~~~ I can think of one reason to want to run TB as a service -- if you're running it in server mode and don't want it to stop functioning just because no-one's logged onto the machine. The requester is running TB on NT Server, so that would (IME) be the normal state. The other alternative is to leave a relevant user logged in which, depending on physical security around the machine, may not be acceptable. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Winamp currently playing Fleetwood Mac - Sara Help ... I can't find my Any key! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
Hi Geoff, On Sat, 25 May 2002 14:43:31 +0100, you wrote: The other alternative is to leave a relevant user logged in which, depending on physical security around the machine, may not be acceptable. But with NT, you press CTRL ALT DEL, and lock the work station if the person is walking away, or there are settings in NT itself to lock the workstation after a certain period of idleness. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Friday, May 24, 2002, 9:37:46 AM, you wrote: [snip] DC Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites DC that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue DC with Opera since 6.02? Yes. I found version 6 to be kind of flakey, in that it crashes on some site loads, and won't load the number of sites it used to without problems. I dl'ed 6.02 in hopes of fixing this, but no luck. In the middle of this I migrated from an NT4 machine to a Win3kPro machine, but that had no positive effect either. I was running TB 1.53 when this started, upgraded to 1.60h after the migration. I think I'll give 1.60m a miss, though I did put it on my husband's machine in trying to fix a different glitch there. He's not a heavy user, so I don't expect him to have problems; he's also not using Opera. FWIW, I don't think it's TB causing the Opera problem, but I suppose anything's possible. Ciao, Lynn DC With best wishes, DC Dave -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: symultaneus pop3 check
On Saturday, May 25, 2002, 4:44:33 AM, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: If I check again the failed one, it goes ok. It seems to fail when attempting to connect simultaneously to the same server, although I don't know if it's a problem at TB or softhome.net. Anyone had the same problem? Yes, all the time. I was tempted to blame TB, but I think it is the ISP, as I have tried logging onto the servers using Popcorn and I get the same problem. I think that the cause is load on the ISP's servers. The message means that the connection timed out. It would be good if there could be a way of extending the timeout period in TB. I think that I would have had this problem in Outlook, but since the timeout was 1 minute, it was rarely a problem. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: symultaneus pop3 check
On Sat, 25 May 2002 09:23:36 +0100 Julian Beach (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be good if there could be a way of extending the timeout period in TB. I think that I would have had this problem in Outlook, but since the timeout was 1 minute, it was rarely a problem. As far as the POP3 Server supporting NOOP command TB! will have no time out problem. If not, manual time out setting as Outlook does will help. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: The Bat! as an NT service
GL On 25 May 2002, 13:25, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: GL I can think of one reason to want to run TB as a service -- if you're GL running it in server mode and don't want it to stop functioning just GL because no-one's logged onto the machine. The requester is running TB GL on NT Server, so that would (IME) be the normal state. Exactly. I need to have TB running on the machine whether anyone's logged in to the terminal or not. If the system fails and then reboots I'd like to have TB come up and continue processing mail. It shouldn't depend on a given user coming into the office and logging in. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: The Bat! as an NT service
Marcus- Thanks. I missed this option. I'll look around for it. Saturday, May 25, 2002, 2:01:18 AM, you wrote: MO There is an option for services: Allow service to interact with MO desktop. Maybe this would help? I've never used it with TB! but I have MO with other programs and it worked like you seam to want it to. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: The Bat! as an NT service
Saturday, May 25, 2002, 2:01:18 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote: MO What do you mean by system task? Sorry - I meant Scheduled Task. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Auto size columns?
tbudl, I was just going through some folders and changing column size... Is there a way to auto size them (similar to double clicking the header separator in the evil applications like -dare I say it- M$ Excel)? Note, I don't want to change any of the current behavior, just add the option of auto sizing... I have gotten used to the ease of changing the width to fit the longest cell. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60k Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas F [TF] wrote: ... TF You said it. I used myrealbox this for three years when I lived in TF Taiwan, and regardless which ISP I was connected to, it always TF delivered all my mails from any account. :-) At what speed? Slower than your ISP's SMTP server I'd bet. TF No need to install an SMTP server on your computer. Leave the TF headache of connecting to POP servers all over the world to the TF people with the 24/7 connection and the broad bandwidth. ;-) When I still had my dialup account, I used to use your method but it was too slow. There was too much of a delay while the SMTP server was being looked up and then accessed. Sometimes it was plain slow. I just made MDaemon or Mercury depending on which one I was using, use my ISP's SMTP server as a SmartHost. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE879CAV8nrYCsHF+IRAhhAAJ43Gk8ZbJlVNYPwyJ2l1CJ3Aovs+QCdEV1p E/hB2r43oD3Q9EHJsZsb6Mc= =VhTs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
Hi Thomas, On Sat, 25 May 2002 13:36:06 +0700, you wrote: Hello Reza, On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:29:46 -0400 GMT (25/05/02, 02:29 +0700 GMT), Reza Habib wrote: RH Foxmail has a built in smtp server so it will relay your mail to the RH host directly, bypassing the isp. That would be a really cool feature RH for TB to adopt. You need to stay connected until the mail is actually delivered. Out of the question for me on per-minute dial-up. Same holds true for an SMTP server on my machine. So what is the difference between running an SMTP server on your host, and connecting to that, verses connecting to your ISPs SMTP? Both would take roughly the same amount of time. Unless you're running the SMTP locally, in which case when you send mail, you can get it to queue the mail until you next connect, and when it next connects, fires off the email to the relevant hosts. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
Hello Allie, On Sat, 25 May 2002 12:54:14 -0500 GMT (26/05/02, 00:54 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM MDaemon here can be configured to use an SMTP host in the sense that ACM it delivers mail to another SMTP server, usually your ISP SMTP server ACM instead of doing a direct delivery. OK then, why would I need MDaemon in the first place? ACM Mercury will also do the same. [...] ACM Does that help you Thomas? :-) Not really. As long as can use a ISP's SMTP server, I just throw my mails their way and let them deal with it. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 12. Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward and do so. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
Hello Allie, On Sat, 25 May 2002 12:57:19 -0500 GMT (26/05/02, 00:57 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: TF You said it. I used myrealbox this for three years when I lived in TF Taiwan, and regardless which ISP I was connected to, it always TF delivered all my mails from any account. :-) ACM At what speed? Acceptable. With my different accounts, I use SMTP servers in Asia, Europe, and USA. The SMTP server for this one account is in the States (see headers). ACM Slower than your ISP's SMTP server I'd bet. My cable ISP in Taiwan was EThome.net.tw. In general, I was quite happy with the cable speed (broadband). They do provide an SMTP server, but after a short while, it was listed on ORBL, and some of my message were returned by the receiving servers (including ritlabs.com). I called EThome and they didn't even know what I was talking about, which resulted in a very educational (for them) email exhange. Finally the SMTP server address was changed, but for some reason, I always got the error message could not connect to server. My way out was myrealbox.com for my Hinet.net account at least: My main account was on hinet.net. When you are connected via another ISP, they will not allow you to use the their SMTP server. Sometimes I had to dial in through them (EThome being a small company and Hinet being the state-owned Big Guy), but this meant I kept switching. On a side note, my mother is on AOL. They don't provide a standard SMTP server. When I am in Germany and connected through my mother's AOL account, I use the myrealbox.com SMTP server for my mail on other ISPs. TF No need to install an SMTP server on your computer. ACM When I still had my dialup account, I used to use your method but it ACM was too slow. There was too much of a delay while the SMTP server was ACM being looked up and then accessed. My experience differs. When I had an SMTP server installed on my system, (using the cable modem and its flat rate) of course it tried to connect the the recipients' servers individually. Those servers where for some reason not always immediately accessible. Each time an access attempt was unsuccessful, I got an error message. As annoying as that was, it meant that I had to stay online until the message was sent. Sorry, I'd rather decide myself when I go to bed. ;-) With myrealbox, you just send the message out. Let them deal with any connection problems. Easy as that. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto size columns?
On 20020525, Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just going through some folders and changing column size... Is there a way to auto size them (similar to double clicking the header separator in the evil applications like -dare I say it- M$ Excel)? This is a default behaviour in Windows which all applications should inherit, actually. Explorer does this, and all Windows applications behaving as expected should do this. Note, I don't want to change any of the current behavior, just add the option of auto sizing... I have gotten used to the ease of changing the width to fit the longest cell. Yes, please. I'll take one of those as well. Auto-sizing for the people! -- Tone Marie Berg «I liked things better when I didn't understand them.» Calvin Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto size columns?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 20:58 op zaterdag 25 mei 2002, Tone Marie Berg: This is a default behaviour in Windows which all applications should inherit, actually. Explorer does this, and all Windows applications behaving as expected should do this. trust me, it is something you, as a programmer, have to add yourself if you do anything that isn't pre-programmed with a list. make it a wish. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt7 iQA/AwUBPO/V2UtQMadp+KslEQLc9gCg0xAlJ8Y8aDdHZ+wpE0Qz+ytvlg0AoKVu vPIuN29wA90l6IudkN2VL8Tc =qXd6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
On Sun, 26 May 2002 01:18:29 +0700 Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACM MDaemon here can be configured to use an SMTP host in the sense ACM that it delivers mail to another SMTP server, usually your ISP ACM SMTP server instead of doing a direct delivery. OK then, why would I need MDaemon in the first place? Depending on your need though :-) These are some benefit for Dial Up users : - While sending mail to more than one recipient : MDaemon only create one session connection (single mail with multiple address). - We can set auto compress if message larger than x KB (x = configurable). - First attempt delivery go directly to MX Recipient, if failed send to relay host. - Download mail from DomainPOP mailbox base on message size (smaller first). - Remote Configuration through mail command (change password, set/unset auto forward etc). -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas F [TF] wrote: ... ACM MDaemon here can be configured to use an SMTP host in the sense ACM that it delivers mail to another SMTP server, usually your ISP ACM SMTP server instead of doing a direct delivery. TF OK then, why would I need MDaemon in the first place? That's besides the point. You made the statement: ,-[ begin ]- | | You need to stay connected until the mail is actually delivered. Out | of the question for me on per-minute dial-up. Same holds true for an | SMTP server on my machine.| | '-[ end ]-|| Using a local SMTP server doesn't necessarily mean you'll have to do a direct delivery and have to wait while it does so. This was the point I was making. A local mail-server isn't necessarily a waste of money for those using a dial-up connection. Not necessarily true at all. I've found that MDaemon connects and negotiaties with POP and SMTP servers faster than TB!. It actually has a great support for unattended dial-up. It could actually be a cost saver ... but I'm not really writing this to make you change how you do things. You're already happy with your method that's quite OK. Only you would know what works best for you. However, this may not be the case for others who could greatly benefit by using their own local servers. It's not an overkill solution in many instances where it's initially perceived as being so. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87/Q1V8nrYCsHF+IRAmIwAKDNwJNJaay071SMT8iVbl7BKtPzagCg4Kvf q0n5S8incf8GkU7VlzD3jN0= =CqmM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Log File
Folks, I had a problem where I was trying to send a message and my SMTP server was rejecting my connection. The Bat! told me to check the log file. I thought it was referring to the account.log file associated with the account, but the account.log file told me to also check the logfile. So the question is: What log file do I need to look at? Thanks, -MikeD Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
