Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server

[John Phillips]

Hello Marcus
You wrote  On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 17:00:37 [GMT +0200] (01:00:37 Friday, 28 June 2002 
where I live):-

> I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to
> send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment.


Have a look at MailDirect http://www.ocloudsoft.com/

I tried the others mentioned here - all seemed a bit buggy, or overloaded with
features, and stopped working from time to time.  Mail Direct is very simple to
set up, and comes with default IP addresses to enable mail sending, thus
overcoming your ISP blocking ports 25 or 53 (at  least I hope so!)

Shareware - USD20-00.

Of course, YMMV

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

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TF> Then I don't understand the question. crtl-enter works fine here for
TF> replies to the list.

For lists messages that include the list address in the reply-to
header this is true. We're not referring to such list messages. You
need to review the thread, especially the initial message that started
it.

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Copy mail folder view to other folders

[Jakob Breivik Grimstveit]

I  have a desire to change the view of all new folders created (and 20 or so
old  folder  views)  with  a new one I just created (remove message parking,
flagging,  change  order  of columns, change width etc.). How on earth can I
make   this   change  be  distributed  to other folders of my choice (I want
an other view of sent, drafts and trash)?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Can Not Send Mail

[Gerard]

ON Friday, June 28, 2002, 11:39:27 AM, you wrote:

PP> It's not better a MTA-spftware does not filter on _HEADER_ fields in a mail
PP> for deciding if a virus is trying to spread itself, no.
PP> It's better every software around the world changes names and
PP> identifications strings if a new virus comes out that's named similar to
PP> that application by ANY AV-software company.

PP> In fact a great idea, no doubt.

Hi Peter,

 I only suggested it because obvious similarity with .bat files. If this
 was Becky I would not have suggested it.
 If this was Outlook I would but for marketing reasons ;-)
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Re: Can Not Send Mail

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Gerard,

On Friday, June 28, 2002 at 9:02:08 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

>>> Changed  the x-mailer header to "Becky!" and sent it off lickety-boo! So
>>> the x-mailer header is definitely throwing the server into a tiz.

JP>> and this is probably why:-

JP>> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

G> If that is the reason a simple change in the program from:
G> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to X-Mailer: TB! (v1.60q) Personal
G> would do the tricjk and prevent further problems.

Unless some AV company decides to name a virus/worm similar enough to 'TB'.
Good solution, really.

It's not better a MTA-spftware does not filter on _HEADER_ fields in a mail
for deciding if a virus is trying to spread itself, no.
It's better every software around the world changes names and
identifications strings if a new virus comes out that's named similar to
that application by ANY AV-software company.

In fact a great idea, no doubt.
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Re: Can Not Send Mail

[Gerard]

ON Friday, June 28, 2002, 9:59:21 AM, you wrote:

TF> The people over at the ISP in question need to set up their software
TF> correctly, that's all. A header called X-Mailer should not trigger
TF> rejection as if it were a header called Attachments. Its not so
TF> difficult, really...

Hi Thomas,

I agree that it is not difficult, but I always prefer avoiding problems
over educating "The World" even on non-difficult items.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

[Peter Fjelsten]

John [J],

On 28-06-2002 09:00, you wrote in :
>> John, I know how to change the "local" time (%otimelong) to display no
>> seconds, but how do I do that with the RegExp time?

J> Just change the appropriate macro in the expression.  Is this waht you mean?

I know. I wasn't able to, that was my point, but no worries, Januk came
through for me.

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Re[2]: Unread messages sorting

[Mitja Perko]

Hello Thomas,

> What is "sorted by unread"?
There is a column "Unread messages". With sorted by unread I thought
sorting on that column.

This allows me to see all threads that have changes quickly.

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Re: Parked message sent (was: OT: Mobile phone fads)

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Friday, June 28, 2002, 10:21, Thomas F wrote:

> Why did this message get sent?

> I had reopened it in the editor in order to change the address to the
> TBOT address. When you open a message that is in the Outbox, it gets a
> "draft" icon and is therefore parked and unsendable.

Maybe you clicked on "Send the letter" instead of "Put the letter in
Outbox" after the change of address?

> I found the sent message in the Sent folder, and it was parked! Now,
> what is going on here?

That however contradicts my suggestion abowe, if you did hit send then
the message shouldn't be parked in the sent folder. Strange indeed.

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Re: OT: Mobile phone fads

[Thomas F]

Hello Dierk,

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:19:15 +0200 GMT (28/06/02, 13:19 +0700 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> Sorry, I cut out all the other words used for it by just using the
DH> most common one.

Sorry, but my point is that "cell phone" is *not* the most commonly
used word for "mobile phone". It is just the word used by North
Americans, and in your personal limited perception, *you* may *think*
it is the most commonly used word. USA is *not* the centre of the
world. Most people live in Asia. Sorry to shatter your world.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

[Thomas F]

Hello Chris,

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:23:05 +0100 GMT (28/06/02, 14:23 +0700 GMT),
Chris Weaven wrote:

CW> 1. "20:58 GMT -0700 (Friday, June 28, 2002 at 04:58" doesn't add up.
CW> It appears to be missing the summer daylight saver bit, the adding
CW> and removing of an hour during the different time of the year. Can
CW> this be fixed?

If you have localised your Windows (My Computer / Setup /
International (I don't know what it's called in English, but the icon
is a globe), and Windows knows about daylight savings time (which for
some reason it does on my German friends' computers), it will
automatically update your computer. So I think the regex doesn't need
to be changed.

CW> 2. Also, I move to America in 5 weeks. Will I need to change it again
CW> then?

If you update your computer clock and your local windows settings (see
above), a change should not be necessary.

Unless I am mistaken. I had to update my own regex, because I have
"+0800" hardcoded into it when I lived in Taiwan. So I had to adjust
it to "+0700" when I moved here. The regex you are using just says
"where I live".

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Re: help

[Thomas F]

Hello Dierk,

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:21:37 +0200 GMT (28/06/02, 13:21 +0700 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> With what?

I guess he wanted to trigger an email sent to him with list commands.
Other list servers work this way - if you send the message to the
list server, not to the list, of course.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

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On Friday, June 28, 2002, 03:19, Adam wrote:

> How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses?

Besides Roelof suggestion you can also make a .txt file with all
addresses and filter against that one. This method does however only
work with the Selective Download filter.

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

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Hi,

Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> 1. When composing the original message in TB!!, in my cogeco.ca acct.
> the message encoding is showing as "Latin-1 (ISO 8859-1).

> 2. After I save the message as a *.msg file the encoding shows as "None"

My guess: ISO 8859-1 is your default encoding set, when the message gets
saved the Bat notices that there are no 8 bit characters in it so "none"
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Re: Can Not Send Mail

[Thomas F]

Hello Gerard,

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:02:08 +0200 GMT (28/06/02, 14:02 +0700 GMT),
Gerard wrote:

JP>> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

G> If that is the reason a simple change in the program from:
G> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to X-Mailer: TB! (v1.60q) Personal
G> would do the tricjk and prevent further problems.

The above is just one worm that gets distributed by Microsoft Virus
Express users and is a batch file. I don't think this necessitates
renaming the X-mailer in a perfectly good (and not virus-spreading)
MUA.

The people over at the ISP in question need to set up their software
correctly, that's all. A header called X-Mailer should not trigger
rejection as if it were a header called Attachments. Its not so
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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

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Hallo Adam,

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:49:06 -0230GMT (28-6-02, 3:19 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

A> How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses?

Place the addresses in your address book in one group.
What you've got to do is at the 'advanced' tab check 'address(es) must
be listed in the address book:' and see that you point to the correct
address book group.
The condition that you're checking on at the 'rule' tab must be a
rather general one (a dot present in the kludges or something like
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Re: Previous <-> Next Arrow Confusion

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Sudip,

On Friday, June 28, 2002 at 12:51 GMT +0545, Sudip Pokhrel [SP]
pressed random keys until the following was produced:

SP>Aren't these arrows suppose to do what they are told irrespective
SP>of the sorting order?

When you double click on a message, choose:
 -> View
   -> Message List

That will show you the sort order used by the icons.  To explain, when
you double click a message in the main window, you really don't open
the message, you open a folder view.  The viewing options of the
folder view is independent of the options for the main window.

So to set the sort order in the double clicked message, use:
 -> View
   -> Sort by
 -> ...

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