Hi Thomas,
TF I am using PC-Cillin. It works good, the interface is easy, it good a
TF 100% score on hackfix; the only thing I am waiting for is the TB
TF plug-in.
Does PC-Cillin itself have a command line interface? Trend's engine is
what's behind OnTrack's AV package (SystemSuite) but OnTrack
Hello Blarp,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 00:59:27 -0700 GMT (12/09/02, 14:59 +0700 GMT),
Blarp wrote:
B Does PC-Cillin itself have a command line interface?
No, I think not.
B If PC-Cillin doesn't do command line interaction then TB may have
B trouble using it. Just a thought.
Most programs use more
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:40:20 AM, you wrote:
I am using PC-Cillin.
Which version are you using?
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David Cohen
Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:
For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in
TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be
blaming on NAV.
When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments
are Word files or JPGs, I can count on some file corruption. The JPGs
will
Hello Technology,
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:47:51 AM, you wrote:
BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in
BBTE TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be
BBTE blaming on NAV.
BBTE When a message with multiple attachments arrives,
Hi fellow TB!ers,
I've had a problem occurring for some time, but haven't really worried about
it since it's just an annoyance. Ever since version 1.59, TB! will not
minimize (either automatically or manually)when it first comes up in my
Start menu on a computer boot/reboot. If I close TB! and
Hello Lou,
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, at 10:06:04 GMT -0400 (9/11/02, 9:06 AM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
LY SysCmdr is not really needed unless you want to boot Linux, etc.
LY or want to use multiple primary partitions, hiding the unused ones.
If I want
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Hi Mark,
@12-Sep-2002, 05:07 -0700 (13:07 UK time) Mark Bernard [MB] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a
BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something
Hi,
This problem has been discussed in other threads. Same over here:
Attachements (Word, RTF, TXT...) are regularly messed up. I first
thought that the problem is sender-dependent but then realized it is
not. The spoilt attachments alwas stem from messages with multiple
attachments of
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 8:33:26 AM, you wrote:
GS Hello Lou,
GS On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, at 10:06:04 GMT -0400 (9/11/02, 9:06 AM -0500 GMT
GS here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
LY SysCmdr is not really needed unless you want to boot Linux, etc.
LY or want to use
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:47:51 AM, you wrote:
BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in
BBTE TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be
BBTE blaming on NAV.
BBTE When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 6:34:43 AM, Thomas Martin wrote:
is there a shareware version for testing somewhere to download?
Not sure. Visit www.abacuslaw.com
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Hi Technology,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 07:47 your local time, (17:32 my local
time), you [BBT] wrote:
BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a
BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I
BBTE should be blaming on NAV.
At one time, I
Hi Technology,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 07:47 your local time, (17:32 my local
time), you [BBT] wrote:
BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a
BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I
BBTE should be blaming on NAV.
At one time, I
Hi Sudip,
Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking
into.
I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But would that mean that no
firewall can be used together with TB if you want to receive correct
attachments? using a broadband access without firewall seems way to
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On Thursday, September 12, 2002, Anselm Buehling wrote...
Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking
into.
I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But would that mean that no
firewall can be used together with TB if you
When I run a search, and want to reply to one of the results, I
right-click onto it and say REPLY.
Now, the BAT just uses the account that I am in OUTSIDE the search,
and it does NOT use the account this mail actually went to.
Is this another one of the GREAT FEATURES or is there any way
Hi Anselm,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:40:29 [GMT +0200], you wrote:
AB using a broadband access without firewall seems way to dangerous
AB these days...
Might I recommend to read the FAQ of the (German speaking) newsgroup
de.comp.security.firewall?
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Hi Anselm,
@12-Sep-2002, 16:40 +0200 (15:40 UK time) Anselm Buehling [AB] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth
looking into.
AB I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But
Hello Sudip,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:21:21 +0545 GMT (12/09/02, 16:36 +0700 GMT),
Sudip Pokhrel wrote:
TF NAV uses an algorithm that tries to find as yet unknown malware.
TF Other AV-software will check in their database whether any known
TF malware is found in the file being scanned.
SP This
Hello David,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 05:23:42 -0400 GMT (12/09/02, 16:23 +0700 GMT),
David Cohen wrote:
I am using PC-Cillin.
DC Which version are you using?
I'm still using PCC6. as the updates still work, I see no reason to
pay again and get PC-Cillin 2000.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der
Hello Marck,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:44:34 +0100 GMT (12/09/02, 19:44 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
MDP I think you've missed the point. Are you using NAV? Some other
MDP real-time POP3 virus scanner?
MDP I don't. I have been a TB user for over 4 years and receive 200-400
MDP messages
Hello Sebastian,
Now, the BAT just uses the account that I am in OUTSIDE the search,
and it does NOT use the account this mail actually went to.
What version of TB are you using? It works fine for me, it uses the
account of the folder where the message is stored when the search is
done, no
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Hi Sebastian,
@12-Sep-2002, 17:06 +0200 (16:06 UK time) Sebastian [S] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
S Is this another one of the GREAT FEATURES or is there any way
S around this?
On the status line of the new message editor
Hi Technology,
BBTE I prefer not to disable it because I
BBTE consider it a last line of defense for outbound traffic in the event
BBTE that something slips through my defenses.
Get Kerio Personal Firewall. MUCH better than ZA+. Smaller footprint
and more configurable. KPF has a few quirks of
Hi Thomas,
TF Most programs use more interfaces than just the user interfaces GUI
TF and CLI. The SDK (Software Developers Kit) of any program will tell
TF you where you can interface with the program. Forgot for the A stood
TF for, but the rest of API means Programmers' Interface.
Of course,
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Hi Thomas,
@12-Sep-2002, 22:28 +0700 (16:28 UK time) Thomas F. [TF] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
MDP I'll wager it's nothing to do with TB though.
TF Let's see.
And now ZA peeps over the parapet yet again. If it were TB
Hello William
Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:35:12 PM, in which you
wrote:
BBTE If nothing else, I have been introduced to AVG Antivirus!
Let me introduce you an even better one :-)
www.eset.com
--
Regards
William
Flying with The Bat! 1.61
Hello Anselm
Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:40:29 PM, in which you
wrote:
AB ... would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB if
AB you want to receive correct attachments?
Certainly not.
I have broadband, NOD32, and Sygate Pro firewall. No
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Hi William,
@12-Sep-2002, 17:02 William Moore [WM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
BBTE If nothing else, I have been introduced to AVG Antivirus!
WM Let me introduce you an even better one :-) www.eset.com
But the price is
Hi Seb.
At 11:06 AM on Thursday, September 12, 2002
you [S] wrote the following about 'I HATE
this BAT-Feature - any help?`':
S When I run a search, and want to reply to
S one of the results, I right-click onto it
S and say REPLY.
S Now, the BAT just uses the account that I
S am in OUTSIDE the
Hi Lars,
Although some of the arguments might seem a bit exaggerated at first, I
can tell from my own experience that not using a personal firewall isn't
much of a loss. You only have to keep up with security updates for your
system, but shouldn't everyone do that? ;-)
Hmm, while one
Well, this is pretty weird!
I accidentally sent out SEVERAL emails with the wrong account by
just hitting the reply button in the search results.
Now I finally saw that you can just choose the account name, and I
thank you all for pointing things out - BAT is ok after all, hehe. ;)
Hi Jonathan,
Not at all... try turning off the mail filtering options, and see if
that helps cure things. I haven't used ZA in a long while, so I
cannot point you to where it is. Either that, or try a different
firewall for a short while.
Thanks, will try that and hope it will be the
Turning off ZA mail filtering options did not help. So i'll have to
test on. Next step would be to completely deactivate ZA. Will do as
soon as I have time and a partner to test.
Kind regards,
Anselm
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On Thursday, September 12, 2002, Anselm
BB When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments
BB are Word files or JPGs, I can count on some file corruption. The JPGs
BB will be unreadable or partly readable, for example. This is virtually
BB guaranteed to happen if there are 3 or more attachments.
BB When the
Hello Marck
Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:06:12 PM, in which you
wrote:
MDP But the price is infinitely worse!
Spoken like a true Londoner ;-)
--
Regards
William
Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat
Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote:
Forwarding a message with a corrupt attachment to a non-TB! user
always results in an attachment that is perfectly valid for the
recipient
If the file is alright after it is forwarded, it can't be corrupted
when you get it. Where do
Hallo Anselm,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:40:29 +0200GMT (12-9-02, 16:40 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
AB But would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB
AB if you want to receive correct attachments?
No, it doesn't. I use TB, AVG and ZA (free version) and have never
It seems that Eddy said ...
E This most certainly appears to be a problem with TB!. I used 'Help
E Feedback Bug Report' to submit a bug (an even included my zip file of
E the corrupted Test folder) but never received any acknowledgement or
E any sort of response from RIT Labs.
I've been
Hi Technology,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:35 your local time, (20:20 my local
time), you [BBT] wrote:
BBTE I'll try contacting Zone Labs, too.
I had a bad experience with them. They kept sending me a same stock
mail suggesting to turn off Mail Safe setting. When this didn't work,
I
Hi Thomas,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 22:22 your local time, (21:07 my local
time), you [TF] wrote:
TF OK, so AVG uses it too. But then, AVG seems to catch only 60-odd
TF percent of the viruses, according to hackfix.
So does Kaspersky though, and it does 100% :)
SP Besides, you always
Hi Marck,
On Thursday, September 12, 2002 16:08 your local time, (20:53 my local
time), you [MDP] wrote:
MDP Anyway, it may be, as advised, that disabling the mail scanning
MDP functions of ZA (... why it's a firewall - what business does
MDP it have scanning mail for pity's sake!) will be
ON Thursday, September 12, 2002, 7:26:55 PM, you wrote:
E Recently, I created a folder called Test, into which I put several
E messages which are corrupt in TB!. I zip'd the Test folder
E (containing the .TBB and .TBI files) and mailed it to several TB!
E users. When they created a Test folder
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 1:36:01 PM, Dwight wrote:
DAC On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote:
Forwarding a message with a corrupt attachment to a non-TB! user
always results in an attachment that is perfectly valid for the
recipient
DAC If the file is alright
Sh'mae Eddy,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:38:37 [GMT -0400] (or 20:38 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 1:36:01 PM, Dwight wrote:
DAC On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote:
E Several TB! users have verified my claims
ON Thursday, September 12, 2002, 9:38:37 PM, you wrote:
E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test
E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved
E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others.
Eddy,
I would like a go at this. Can you pls
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere?
A Adam ...
Everyone who has this problem has bad memory? And I have bad memory on
THREE computers? And the problem doesn't manifest itself with any
other e-mail program? (Not even
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere?
BBTE A Adam ...
BBTE Everyone who has this
Art-
Check the shortcut in the Startup folder - try adding the /minimize
command line argument if it's not already there.
-Mark Wieder
Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere?
BBTE A Adam ...
BBTE Everyone who has this
Hello Marck,
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote:
MB I've seen corruption of various file types.
MB Forwarding/redirecting the corrupt files back to myself results
MB in the files fixing themselves.
MDP I think you've missed the point. Are you using NAV? Some other
MDP
Sh'mae Mark,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
MB Hello Marck,
MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote:
MB I've seen corruption of various file types.
MB Forwarding/redirecting the corrupt files back to
Sh'mae Mark,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
MB Hello Marck,
MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote:
MB I'm using NAV 2002, and NIS2002. I just recently switched to TB! from
MB PMMail2000 Pro. About
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:36:21 PM, Adam wrote:
E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test
E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved
E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others.
AR Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 2:01:12 PM, Gerard wrote:
G I am no expert on this but it sure looks like a corrupted Tbb or
G TBI file. I belive you can delete index file and TB! will recreate
G it. Have you tried that with a corrupted file in the folder?
I don't think so; I can create a new
Sh'mae Eddy,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:09:44 [GMT -0400] (or 23:09 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:36:21 PM, Adam wrote:
E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test
E mailbox that contains 2 messages which
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A a) Its being corrupted in memory as the attachment is being reconstructed.
Agreed, but would it not have the same effect when the message is
being reconstructed in Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, Pegasus,
Netscape Maill, or SOME other program? I have
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A The other thing that crosses my mind is filesystem - obviously you're on Win98
A and other people are on Winxp or whatever?
A You all using fat32? Large disk?
I'm on XP. Wouldn't use FAT32 on a dare. All affected systems are
NTFS. All are Seagate drives
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:23:19 [GMT -0400] (or 23:23 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A a) Its being corrupted in memory as the attachment is being reconstructed.
BBTE Agreed, but would it not have the same
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A 1) FAt/FAT32 or NTFS?
NTFS
A 2) Storing attachments in seperate drectory or in message
I've tried both. If the attachment is in the message body,
sometimes I can recover from the problem by forwarding the
message to myself.
A 3) Encoding
How do
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:29:01 [GMT -0400] (or 23:29 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote:
BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A The other thing that crosses my mind is filesystem - obviously you're on Win98
A and other people are on Winxp or
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:33:46 [GMT -0400] (or 23:33 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled messages' you wrote:
BBTEHow do I tell. A failed attachment had this header:
Account Properties - Files and Directories
a.
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On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:09:44 PM, Eddy wrote:
All the evidence I have encountered seem to point to a problem with
how TB! is processing attachments after they are received.
how about setting up an installation which saves attachments separate
from the messages, and send some of
Sh'mae Technology,
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:33:46 [GMT -0400] (or 23:33 in Wales)
regarding 'Mangled messages' you wrote:
Bill
Do you run your own mail server - and if so, can you read through your logs in
case anything untoward there,,?
Just another random thought?
a
I'm going to
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A Account Properties - Files and Directories
Oh. OK, but that's for outbound files, isn't it? I've never had a
problem sending a file. Mime64.
(From another message)
A TB! on C drive or another drive?
A Spaces in folder name (here its d:\TheBat)
TB on C: in
It seems that Adam Rykala said ...
A Do you run your own mail server - and if so, can you read through your logs in
A case anything untoward there,,?
I wish. No, my domain is at Communitech.net, but I see the same
problem with messages that pass through ...
blinn.com
Hello Adam,
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:07:55 PM, you wrote:
MB I'm using NAV 2002, and NIS2002. I just recently switched to TB! from
MB PMMail2000 Pro. About a month ago. In all my years using PMMail2000,
MB never had a problem with corrupt attachments. Only thing I changed was
MB my
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:'
RO No, it doesn't. I use TB, AVG and ZA (free version) and have
RO never received a corrupt attachment. BTW I run W98 and have got
RO ADSL.
Hmmm. One of the lucky ones. I hope it continues for you. I had no
problems at first
Hi Bat users,
I was directed to this list by an automatic bot at bat ;]
I am a long-time user of The Bat! - a single-user on a laptop running
Win98.
Recently because I was unhappy with Opera's upgrade, I wanted to check
the userworthiness of Mozilla and so downloaded their latest. Just for
Bats-
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:33:46 PM you wrote:
A 2) Storing attachments in seperate drectory or in message
BBTEI've tried both. If the attachment is in the message body,
BBTEsometimes I can recover from the problem by forwarding the
BBTEmessage to myself.
I've found that
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