Re: Don't sort.

2003-07-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:36:18 +0100GMT (24-7-03, 16:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SH How do I /not/ sort? Sort on an item that's the same for all messages. If you don't park any messages and subsequently sort on 'parked' then you've got the messages in the database order. Or

Re[2]: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Jan Oetjen
Hi Geoff, Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 (01:04 Uhr) hast Du in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben... On 24 July 2003, 18:50, Peter Kerekes wrote: I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. ~~~ ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RO No. sigh - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... 666 KHz AM Radio station of the Beast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro by pressing AltGr+4 (which is how I produced the ?'s in this paragraph). I

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Geoff Lane
On 25 July 2003, 09:30, Jan Oetjen wrote: what - in return - produces an empty black border rectangle unless the font you are using is support the ? character in it's font table. ;) ~~~ Just like other characters, the euro symbol is only available when the font includes it. All the Windows

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 7/24/2003 18:51:59, I think I heard Roelof Otten say: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:10:20 +0100GMT (24-7-03, 18:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SH Is there any way for getting getting the reference thread type SH ordering with subject threaded messages? No. :( Any chance it'll

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Tim
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Alexander wrote: A the rare benefits of Windows :) you can still reach it with ALT+0128. Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) Can someone recommend a good online list of all the Alt+numeric codes? Occasionally I google for a specific

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Tim
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Geoff Lane wrote: GL ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro GL by pressing AltGr+4 What is AltGr? I can insert euro symbol in Word though InsertSymbol, but I've never found a keystroke that will do it in any application. Is there an

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 00:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SH Is there any way for getting getting the reference thread type SH ordering with subject threaded messages? No. Hasn't someone mentioned that a future version will have combined threading, that is, by both references and subject? (Mutt does that,

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone recommend a good online list of all the Alt+numeric codes? Occasionally I google for a specific character, but I never remember to bookmark whatever site I find. Windows has a tool for that. Not very comfortable because searching is a

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) Hmmm. On my keyboard, the Alt key is left of the SpaceBar, AltGr is right... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 T Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) On most PC keyboards, it's the Alt key on the right-hand side of the space bar. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 03:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.) A Just one question - the test mail you were sending with Netscape, did you A send it through ChoiceMail, or directly

Re[2]: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-25 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Alexander, all: I believe I've sent some log extracts to the list recently, so won't do that again today. But I've not had this experience where a message is first rejected and then accepted. I appreciate your analysis. The best thing now I expect is that we find a way to make this

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Tim
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Stuart Hemming wrote: T Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) SH On most PC keyboards, it's the Alt key on the right-hand side of the Define most keyboards. I did another Google search when I read this, and after limiting the search to

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Geoff Lane
On 25 July 2003, 11:01, Tim wrote: What is AltGr? ~~~ AltGR is the Alt key to the right of the spacebar. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A procrastinator's work is never done.

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 T Not much use to me in Australia (everyone assumes that, if we speak T English, have dollars as currency, and go to war when the US says T because our prime minister likes licking the president's arse, we must T really be American. We're not.) Very

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander, I'd also like to have a *comfortable* ;-) way of manually adding mails to existing threads (I've seen mailers, especially web-frontends, that really screw things up a lot, not only killing any references but also mangling the subject so badly threading by subject fails, too).

Re: Don't sort.

2003-07-25 Thread Domagoj Klepac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, July 25, 2003, 9:06:55 AM, Roelof wrote: SH How do I /not/ sort? Sort on an item that's the same for all messages. If you don't park any messages and subsequently sort on 'parked' then you've got the messages in the database order. Or

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Tim, on Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:01:40 +1000GMT (25.07.03, 12:01 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : T Is there an Alt+0??? combination that will do it? Here it is alt+0128, but then this is German Win98 with a German keyboard with char set ISO-8859-1 or -2 or -15... -- Cheers

Re: Received time should be rectified

2003-07-25 Thread Constantin Tanurkov
Hi Joe, Monday, July 21, 2003, 3:16:40 AM, you wrote: Joe Recently I found a problem when using TB. We need to handle Joe emails according to the time frame. Say, I will need to reply to Joe the emails arrive at our mail server from 9am to 3pm, my workmate Joe needs to reply from 3pm to 10pm.

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, Friday, July 25, 2003, MAU MAU wrote: Depending in what you understand by comfortable... Take a look here: http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/ Thank you! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/ I've spent an hour or so trying to make this work without success! - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... I can't be

Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers

2003-07-25 Thread WL
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 10:16:37 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote: CM [replying to self] CM Well, I don't know what the problem was, but since this was for my Yahoo CM account, I went to the web mail page and cleared out the messages using CM my web browser. Must've been a corrupt message on the

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, Thank you! I thought you already knew about it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers

2003-07-25 Thread audiac
Friday, July 25, 2003, 3:39:48 PM, WL wrote: ..OTOH, I get a similar problem with 1.62r. When checking mail and connection center set to automatic, the communication center window will usually pop up and go away of its own accord. Every once in a while (3-5 times a day with 15min automatic

Re[2]: Fwd: Making the bat more accessible to screen readers

2003-07-25 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Thomas, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 11:21:23 PM, you wrote: TF When Maxim and Stefan were contacted regarding screenreaders a few years TF ago, they changed a bit so that buttons became accessible etc. But, at TF the time we were talking only about Jaws, and I think one guy used a TF hardware

Re[2]: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-25 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Allie, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:28:54 PM, you wrote: AM The address book picker should also close when you hit OK. Does it? Yep, sure does and, thanks to the shft/enter tip, it even works! AM Not that I can think of. :/ I'm wondering why simply arrowing down the AM list would lead to

Re[2]: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-25 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Mark, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 4:15:12 PM, you wrote: MW Pressing Tab once gets me to the right box. The pressing space when MW I've selected the proper addressee adds that person to the recipient MW box on the right. Not sure why the space bar trick isn't working for MW you. A

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/ I've spent an hour or so trying to make this work without success! What doesn't work, The URL? Or the Thread Ignore or RE-Thread functions? I see that you are using v1.63 Beta/11 , that may be a problem. As you can see I'm only using v1.62i and

Re[2]: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Artemich, On July 24, 2003, 16:52, you wrote: A Hello Peter, A Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:50:54 PM, you wrote: PK I use the MicroEd text editor in the BAT and cannot get the Euro PK symbol. A I think that font you are using for MicroEd does not contain Euro A symbol (Courier for

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M What doesn't work, The URL? Or the Thread Ignore or RE-Thread M functions? I've been trying to get the Re-thread option working, but I'm not getting too far ATM. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 12:52 schrieb Tim: I almost never use the right Alt key as the left one is much easier to hit (for me) in most cases. It would be really useful to have an extra mondifier key, so does anyone know a way to activate AltGr on US keyboard layouts? Hi Tim, I'm not sure,

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, I've been trying to get the Re-thread option working, but I'm not getting too far ATM. Any specific problem where I could help? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've spotted why I'm not getting what I was expecting; I was expecting the wrong thing! The message/folder I was trying it out on is threaded by subject and the message was mis-threaded there. Your script sorts

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Any specific problem where I could help? Not unless you have a cure for stupidity! - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... £665.95 Retail price of the

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:22:11 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 17:22 +0700 GMT), Alexander wrote: The message is sent, but only after an initial error. It would be interesting to see what the server actually says, but I don't know how to intercept the command/reply exchange. You can do

Re[2]: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-25 Thread Terry
On Friday, July 25, 2003 at 11:22 AM, Alexander wrote: Hmmm. Thats what I was suspecting. I have the feeling that TB is not as fault tolerant for misbehaving SMTP-servers, or something. Here's what happens to me *every* time... 25.07.2003, 12:12:17: SEND - sending mail messages - 1

Re: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:34:54 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 22:34 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: It would be really useful to have an extra mondifier key, so does anyone know a way to activate AltGr on US keyboard layouts? I'm not sure, as I use a German keyboard and char set, but I think

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, The message/folder I was trying it out on is threaded by subject and the message was mis-threaded there. Your script sorts out the threading when it's done by reference. Yes? Well, yes. If you have seen the script it does include an In-Reply-To and a References header lines with

Re: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steve, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:26 -0400 GMT (25/07/03, 21:08 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: AM You could join by sending a message using this URL: AM mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I'm now subscribed. Interestingly enough, my filters don't seem to be working for that list,

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, Not unless you have a cure for stupidity! H, maybe I can think of a PowerPro script to do it ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Sorry about that. Don't apologize for me being dumb. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:27:58 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 23:27 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Not unless you have a cure for stupidity! H, maybe I can think of a PowerPro script to do it ;-) Now, I don't know whether you snipped too much, but it certainly sounds like PowerPro cures

Re[2]: A wish...

2003-07-25 Thread Deborah W
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, 11:23:12 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Oh then, how would TB know which accounts you want to check now, and TF which accounts you want to check next time? Because I would highlight the first account I want to check, then use ctrl-click to highlight the other accounts

Re[2]: Euro character

2003-07-25 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, July 25, 2003, 6:01:40 AM, Tim wrote: T What is AltGr? AltGr is a button which is found on European keyboards where you'd find one of the Alt buttons on North American keyboards. It acts as a second Alt button, allowing you to have a whole extra set of keyboard shortcuts. -- Deborah

Re: Threading

2003-07-25 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, Now, I don't know whether you snipped too much,... When threading by reference, which TB does beautifully and specially in this list where everybody uses TB, quoting shouldn't be necessary at all. I am subscribed to a number of newsgroups where most posters don't quote anything at

Re: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steve, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:11:16 -0400 GMT (25/07/03, 21:11 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: MW Pressing Tab once gets me to the right box. The pressing space when MW I've selected the proper addressee adds that person to the recipient MW box on the right. Not sure why the space bar