Re: Message Despatcher receive settings
Hello Gordon, Sunday, November 2, 2003, 4:23:12 AM, among other things you wrote: GW Can someone explain the way in which the Receive settings are preselected GW or not in the Message Despatcher? I think you will find that it depends on what settings have been chosen in Account/Properties/Mail management/Message management. If the setting is Delete received messages from server I think you will get Message Despatcher showing all the mail marked as you describe with receive and delete checked. If only some of them are like this it probably depends on what actions you have specified in some of the receive filters. For example, if the general setting is for messages to be left on the server and then certain filters say to delete the message from the server. I hope this helps. -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat! v2.01.7 on Windows ME, v4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
Saturday, November 01, 2003, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:01:27 -0700 GMT (01/11/2003, 23:01 +0700 GMT), Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: I've never heard of the signature delimiter you describe above. Is this a custom or requirement for The Bat mailing list? It's an internet standard adopted by TB. If you use the sig delimiter, everything below it will be cut off in a reply. There are other advantages if you use the rich-text viewer in TB. As it happens, with my normal signature (which I didn't use for the email I sent with my question but which I have included below), I do have a double dash after my name and before my company information. It was done originally for aesthetic purposes, not for the reason you describe. It's dash-dash-space-enter, not just double-dash. However, it seems inappropriate, to me, to put the double dash *before* my name because then it separates my name from what I've written, and that interrupts the flow of the correspondence. It's like signing one's name on a separate sheet of paper when writing something by hand. There are two different philosophies about the sig delimiter. One is to set it below your name, and this comes from the usenet: some clients have the option to not show what is below it. TB can be set that way, too. Where do you set this option in v1.62? Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ODATE and OTIME problem?
On Fri 31 October 2003, 11:48:49 +1000, Peter Ouwehand wrote: It seems ODATE simply uses the OTIME value to calculate the ODATE value to return, using the local PC-day/date, not taking into account the GMT offset of the original message. Any opinions / confirmation on this? %ODate and %OTime give me the date and time the original message was sent, transposed into my timezone. So,for example, for a message created at Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:45:00 -0700, they return the the following values for me: %ODate=Sunday, 2 November 2003 %OTime=03:45 Since I am in UTC+1100, these are the correct values for the message creation in my timezone. This appears to be different from the behaviour you are experiencing. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%OTIMELOMGEN question
Hi Bat! Fans, The description for this macro states: (replies and forward) insert the time of the original message in the long time format (defined by the system's country settings) My setting in the control panel (using XP Pro SP 1) are HH:mm:ss which shows 24 hour (military) time; however when used in a reply, this macro shows the time as either AM or PM. Is this a bug? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Have you seen my mind? It wandered again. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %OTIMELOMGEN question
Hallo John, On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:02:26 +1100GMT (2-11-03, 9:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP The description for this macro states: (replies and forward) insert JP the time of the original message in the long time format (defined by JP the system's country settings) You're mistaken between two macros: ,- [ ] | OTIMELONG (replies and forward) insert the time of the original message |in the long time format (defined by the system's country settings) | OTIMELONGEN (replies and forward) insert the time of the original message |in hour:minutes:seconds AM/PM format `- -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP info display
Hallo Marck, On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:09:42 +GMT (2-11-03, 3:09 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP g depends on which universe you're working in. If you are talking MDP to a peer group where PGP/MIME can be easily understood by a MDP majority or sending to a friend who has PGP/MIME capabilities, the MDP it's better. Otherwise not. When you're talking to an innocent soul who doesn't use PGP at all (like me for instance) clearsigning is rather irritating, MIME singing is merely a waste of time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %OTIMELOMGEN question
Hi Roelof, On Sun, 02 Nov 2003, at 09:20:38 [GMT+0100] (which was 19:20:38 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: You're mistaken between two macros: Doh! Thanks. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 An ulcer is what you get mountain climbing over molehills. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.07
Hello!
MyMacros 1.07
http://barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/
* rewritten macros descriptions
* added InputBox, ProgressBar, Eval, For, ForDown, While, Until,
MyMacrosVersion
* changed Numerical, Run
Descriptions of macros for making loops is at home page. Here is an
example of template to numerate lines of code:
===
%_Ncb=%Clipboard%-
%For(1,%CountLines('%_Ncb'),Ncbc,%-
%%TextBar(' ','%%_Ncbc','','4') %-
%%GetLine('%%_Ncbc','%%_Ncb')
)
%Cursor
===
It will result something like this:
===
1 function TTBPDataStorage.LocateID(ID: Integer): Integer;
2 var
3 I: Integer;
4 begin
5 Result := -1;
6 for I := 0 to FSize - 1 do
7 if FData[I].ID = ID then
8 begin
9 Result := I;
10 Break;
11 end;
12 end;
===
--
Andrew Perevodchik
Kiev, Ukraine
Using The Bat! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
MyMacros 1.07; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.5.2.157
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Re: S/MIME and PGP/MIME
Hi Darrin, @1-Nov-2003, 20:08 -0800 (02-Nov 04:08 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D ... please explain to me the difference between S/MIME and D PGP/MIME? S/MIME uses x509 cryptography standards which are only ever MIME encoded. Message signatures are added as attachments. Encrypted text removes the message body adds an S/MIME encrypted attachment. Using TB, an S/MIME signature and an S/MIME encrypted message will also encapsulate the sender's S/MIME public key, which makes key exchange using S/MIME a lot easier than with PGP. PGP/MIME uses PGP cryptography standards to encrypt and sign but adds signatures to a message using MIME attachment standards instead of replacing the message body with PGP modified text blocks. Encrypted text also removes the message body and replaces it with a PGP encrypted MIME attachment. Keys are exchanged privately or via PGP key servers. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
N.S.V, [NSV] wrote: NSV Yes, and I have been testing it between several accounts I have. NSV Thank you for remembering it. NSV BTW, how do I insert Insert your space and then allow TB! to sign the message by enabling, 'sign when completed' via the editor's privacy menu. The presence of the trailing space will activate PGP/MIME. All my messages to the list are PGP/MIME signed because the signature delimiter contains a trailing space. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.20 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP info display
Scott Frederick, [SF] wrote: SF One advantage of clear signing is that you have a permanent record SF of the verification stored with the message. You do? Where is this permanent verification stored? If you're referring to the new tabbed version of the message that appears after verification, then it's not stored. It will not be there when you reopen the message after going to another message in the list. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.20 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: OverQuoting (was: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter)
Net5zero, [N] wrote: N Where do you set this option in v1.62? Ooops! moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out net5zero. Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. Thank you. /moderator -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.20 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bring mole recipe
Some time around 11/1/2003 15:28:36, I think I heard Mark Wieder say: ... and let me point out for us vegetarians that it's also excellent over lightly sauteed Portabella mushrooms. ... and trout ... How'bout bat? any good on bat? Although that's no good for vegetarians, I guess... maybe fruit bat? hehe dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v1.62r Hindered by MS Windows 2000 build 5.0.2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Despatcher receive settings
On Sunday, November 2, 2003, 2:23:12 AM, Gordon Woolf wrote: When I use this to check a mail account all of the mail has the Read and Delete checkboxes checked but just a few have the Receive checkbox selected, and there does not seem to be any logical reason for what is selected and what is not. From my own use of the message despatcher, I believe that it unticks the receive box from any messages that have previously been downloaded, and left on the server. I leave all my messages on the server, and if I chose to view all messages (ctrl-Shft-f2) with the message despatcher, it will show them all, but only mark those not already downloaded for Receive. What might be happening is that you have TB set up to leave messages on the server. The ones that have Receive unticked are ones that have been downloaded, and the others are new. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre
Hello Allie, On 1 November 2003, at 08:06 -0500 you wrote: Did you changed your public key? I uploaded your key a month ago, but now when I try to verify your signature the connection PGP's key-server dialog is appears. Or are you not real Allie Martin? :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Vasiliy Efimenko, [VE] wrote: VE Did you changed your public key? I uploaded your key a month ago, VE but now when I try to verify your signature the connection PGP's VE key-server dialog is appears. Or are you not real Allie Martin? :) Yes, I did change my public key. If you update my old one, you'll see that it's now revoked. I made the mistake of making my encryption subkey one that expires. Even though I created a new subkey, many were still seeing my key as expired. To avoid any trust issues, I just created a new key. The new key was signed with the old one to prove that the new key was created by the owner of the old one. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.20 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: TB! 2
Hello Jonathan other TB! list members following this thread, Yesterday, Saturday, November 1, 2003, you responded to my mentioning that: I'm having trouble connecting to the ritlabs ftp site. Do you still have the 1.63 Beta 5 file? If so and you care to send it, I have winrar installed (betas come in rar files as I recall). JA You will have trouble connecting to their FTP sites. They're offline JA for public access until further notice We're not the public. RL is getting finicky on us. JA All the latest betas can be accessed from the beta page, http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/index.php?login=yes It seems to work w/o the login: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ JA not sure about the older ones though. They aren't. What does RL gain by this? They really ought to provide support for any reasonable desire on the part of us registered TB! users. Allowing access to past versions (beta or not) is not likely to hurt them in any way. Does anyone know if past TB! versions are available from another source? What this means is that I'm going to stay with version 1.62 until the bugs in v.2 are ironed out. -- Douglas Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre
Hello Allie, On 2 November 2003, at 08:24 -0500 you wrote: AM Yes, I did change my public key. If you update my old one, you'll see AM that it's now revoked. Yes, I updated it and saw that your old key was revoked. AM I just created a new key. The new key was signed with the old one AM to prove that the new key was created by the owner of the old one. I just uploaded your new key and it's all OK. Also your key was signed by Mark D. Pearlstone. Good luck and have a good day! -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
Hello Michael other TB! list members following this thread, On Saturday, November 1, 2003, Michael responded to Jonathan Angliss thusly: As a small note, your email appears to be missing a signature delimiter, or cut mark. This mark (shown just above my name) is in the format of [dash][dash][space][enter] (-- ). This allows TB to automagically strip any data from below it, such as the list footers, or additional signature information that you may decide to put in your emails. MSG I've never heard of the signature delimiter you describe above. MSG Is this a custom or requirement for The Bat mailing list? After MSG I read your email, I checked other mail from TB, and much of it MSG does indeed seem to have the delimiter you mention. But I don't MSG find it used in any of the other three business-related lists I MSG belong to. Pegasus (and maybe Eudora) also uses the same signature delimiter, I believe. MSG ... it seems inappropriate, to me, to put the double dash MSG *before* my name because then it separates my name from what MSG I've written, and that interrupts the flow of the MSG correspondence. 1).- It's hardly noticeable. 2).- It doesn't take effect until someone else answers one of your posts. At that point, it's THEIR message, not yours, and why should a message of THEIRS contain YOUR signature? IOW, if I was answering a message of yours that DIDN'T have signature delimiter, I'd had to remove it manually. (I bet you weren't thinking in those terms). 3).- If you really want to remove it, the signature delimiter is contained by default in the templates. All you have to do is erase it. (Be forewarned though that on the TB! lists, you're likely to get asked to use it, for the reason I described above). It doesn't come into play when READING a message you sent, it takes effect when ANSWERING it. If you like, you could put it just AFTER your name (which I'd still have to erase when replying), but before the rest of the things that often appear, like your professional status, personal contact data, what kind of equipment, operating system and service packs you're using, a PGP code, cookies, the headers of your mail service or the mailing list, etc. etc. It's just another nice touch you're free to use if desired. -- Douglas Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ODATE and OTIME problem?
Hello Robin Anson,
on Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:21:46 +1100 (2003-11-02, 08:21:46 in .nl) in the
message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
you wrote (at least in part):
RA This appears to be different from the behaviour you are experiencing.
Below are 2 macros, used on the message with reference
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], which contains header
field Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:20:34 -0500
Macro-1:
%WRAPPED='%-
on%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]%-{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS%-
(%ODateShort, %OTime=hh:nn:ss in .nl) %-
in the message with reference mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(.*)%REGEXPMATCH=%OMSGID%-
you wrote (at least in part):%-
'%-
Results in:
---
on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:20:34 -0500 (2003-10-31, 00:20:34 in .nl) in
the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
you wrote (at least in part):
Which is a correct result.
Macro-2:
(from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/RegexPt5.html)
%WRAPPED='Historians believe that on %ODATE%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS , at %SUBPATT=3[GMT%SUBPATT=4]%-
(which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'%-
Results in:
---
Historians believe that on Friday, October 31, 2003 , at 18:20:34[GMT
-0500](which was 00:20 where I live) you wrote:
Which is an incorrect result.
RA %ODate and %OTime give me the date and time the original message was sent,
RA transposed into my timezone.
Having tried both macros on several messages, it seems that Macro-2
returns an incorrect result when the date and time the original
message was sent, transposed into my timezone results in being 'the next
day' in my timezone.
It then return the transposed date, but not a transposed time.
This makes the macro unusable/deceptive in my opinion.
--
Kind regards,
Peter Ouwehand
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ouwehand dot net
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Mod: Cut mark (was: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter)
Hi Michael, @1-Nov-2003, 09:01 -0700 (01-Nov 16:01 UK time) Michael S. Greenbaum [MSG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan: MSG However, it seems inappropriate, to me, to put the double dash MSG *before* my name because then it separates my name from what MSG I've written, Your signature should be detached when replying. The cut mark is understood by many email clients (not just TB) and the use of it *before* a signature is a very widely recognised standard - nay - a courtesy! The cut mark is also a requirement when writing to the TB lists. So, without any more ado, and explanations complete, I proudly present you with a small trout all of your very own :-). moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Michael. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, on Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:24:25 -0500GMT (02.11.03, 14:24 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AM To avoid any trust issues, I just created a new key. The new key was AM signed with the old one to prove that the new key was created by the AM owner of the old one. Good here now. *s* gpg: Signature made 11/02/03 14:24:25 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit using DSA key ID 010721DC gpg: Good signature from Allie C. Martin, Dr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Allie C Martin, Mr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka allie_M [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: checking the trustdb gpg: public key F5D3A501 is 1846 seconds newer than the signature gpg: checking at depth 0 signed=14 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=0/0/0/0/0/1 gpg: public key F5D3A501 is 1846 seconds newer than the signature gpg: checking at depth 1 signed=9 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=11/0/0/0/3/0 gpg: next trustdb check due at 2003-12-31 But what do those 1846 seconds mean? - -- Cheers Peter Up is, by definition, the direction which broadens horizons. A. Cygni Winamp currently playing: Van Halen - You Really Got Me ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows 98) - WinPT 0.7.96 Comment: *Use OpenPGP for privacy and authentication* iD8DBQE/pSAkAzZSBuEHdM4RArwDAKDFG+5AvTndVdjDUd9plCN/6JSIqACgnXCi PyplLcqxWBN18jCfFYPnKQU= =Ptk2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
On Sunday, November 2, 2003, 15:39:14, Douglas Hinds wrote: Pegasus (and maybe Eudora) also uses the same signature delimiter, I believe. Dash-dash-space is defined in one of the RFCs. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the next morning you will have a flat tire. -- Cannon's Comment Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replies in Base64
Hello Kitty, On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0600 GMT (02/11/2003, 03:17 +0700 GMT), Kitty wrote: I do notice that this seems to happen when I reply to a mailing list message and I can see that my reply seems to be appearing on the screen in the same color/font of the message to which I am replying.That is quotes language I am responding to looks brown and is in a particular font. Are you using the rich-text viewer? It sounds to me that your replying to an HTML mail and the HTML editor is invoked. Alas, this is not happening here, even if I set the HTML viewer (only) as default. If I start replying and my reply looks like that then it will appear to the mailing list in base64 encoding. Could be that the HTML-mail you are sending is base64 encoded. Could be that it gets converted for some reason en route. On the other hand, if I reply and my reply is in by regular font (bold Arial in black) then the message appears normal. If my theory is right (I cannot prove it), those message will have come in in plain text, and you are replying with the plain-text editor. Any ideas how to fix this? Is it feasible for you to read that list with the plain text viewer and see whether the problem persists? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Despatcher receive settings
Hello Douglas, On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:24:12 -0600 GMT (02/11/2003, 10:24 +0700 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: If that's the case, you might want to deactivate it and toggle ALL the Receive flags off by using the ctrl+2 command. I would like to add another trick: crtl-2 toggles. So whereever there was a checkmark first, it will be taken off, and where there was none, it will be set. alt-2 sets. Never mind the previous state, all checkmarks will be set. If you want all checkmarks taken off, you hit alt-2 (setting all ON) first and follow up by hitting ctrl-2 (toggling all - to OFF). Same holds true for crtl-1, -3, -4, and the alt- versions. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Did you delete and icon labelled 'The Internet' from your computer? You did? Well, it will take years to restore the entire Internet; in the meantime, the F.B.I. would like to have a word with you. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
Hello net5zero, On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:32:26 -0500 GMT (02/11/2003, 14:32 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two different philosophies about the sig delimiter. One is to set it below your name, and this comes from the usenet: some clients have the option to not show what is below it. TB can be set that way, too. Where do you set this option in v1.62? Options / Prefeernces / Viewer/Editor / Viewer. Look for the drop-down box Item: and look for the item Signature Text. You can set the to white font on white background if you want... Oops: Just saw that you refered to 1.62; I don't remember where that setting was. I think there was a menu entry Options / Editor Preferences. Anyway, it works only with the RTV. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ADULT: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing in the middle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
On Sunday, November 2, 2003 at 10:19:06 AM, Jernej Simoni wrote in the message Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dash-dash-space is defined in one of the RFCs. It is defined in RFC 2646: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Sign in a London department store: BARGAIN BASEMENT UPSTAIRS Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! 2
I see you're using La Chauve-Souris! (v2.01.3) as your mailer. Does that mean you're using Linux? MR Hee hee...no. It's The Bat! in French. :-) The vulgar literal translation to English is The Bald Mouse!. -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending plain text
For another group I belong to, I need to be sure that all messages are sent in plain text, not html. I thought there was a place I could set this in 1.62, but I can't find out where it is in 2.03. Any help would be appreciated. Mike -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 http://janusbooks.com Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ODATE and OTIME problem?
On Mon 3 November 2003, 1:53:58 +1000, Peter Ouwehand wrote:
Macro-2:
(from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/RegexPt5.html)
%WRAPPED='Historians believe that on %ODATE%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS , at %SUBPATT=3[GMT%SUBPATT=4]%-
(which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'%-
Results in:
---
Historians believe that on Friday, October 31, 2003 , at 18:20:34[GMT
-0500](which was 00:20 where I live) you wrote:
Which is an incorrect result.
%ODate and %OTime are working fine, it is just that %ODate has been used in a
way that links it (the date in your timezone) with the time in the sender's
timezone.
The bit that says Historians believe that on %ODATE%- sets the text up with
the date in your timezone. The next bit parses the headers for the time in the
sender's timezone. As you have noted, this will give an incorrect result at
times.
Here is a similar QT that I use:
[ ]
%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date:\s*(((.*?),.*?[\d]{4})\s*([\d]{0,2}:%-
[\d]{0,2}:[\d]{0,2})\s*(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
On %SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=4 [GMT%SUBPATT=5] %-
(which was %-
%IF:_%SUBPATT=3__%ODate=ddd_%-
:_%ODate=ddd, hh:mm:ss_%-
:_%ODate=hh:mm:ss_ where I live) you wrote:'
This one puts the message creation date and time in the sender's timezone,
then puts in your time, preceded by your day if it differ's from the sender's.
If you want the bit about historians belive, change
On %SUBPATT=2
to
Historians belive that on %SUBPATT=2
--
Robin Anson
Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending plain text
Hi Michael, on Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:36:37 -0700GMT (02.11.03, 20:36 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MSG For another group I belong to, I need to be sure that all messages are MSG sent in plain text, not html. Don't worry. If you don't select HTML explicitly in version 2.xx, The Bat! will create only plain text. *S* -- Cheers Peter Black Holes were created when God divided by zero. Winamp currently playing: Laura Pausini - I Surrender (Mike Rizzo Global Club Mix) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
ON Sunday, November 2, 2003, 7:49:30 PM, you wrote: rg The vulgar literal translation to English is The Bald Mouse!. Hi rich, Shouldn't that be The Flying Bold Mouse? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To score consistently, a golfer must think consistently. A sound, consistent pre-shot routine makes it easier. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending plain text
Hi Michael, @2-Nov-2003, 12:36 -0700 (02-Nov 19:36 UK time) Michael S. Greenbaum said to TBUDL: For another group I belong to, I need to be sure that all messages are sent in plain text, not html. ... snip Any help would be appreciated. None is needed. There is no way to make TB send in *other* than plain text without manually changing each message to HTML. TB only sends plain text. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Hi rich, On Sunday, November 02, 2003, at 10:49:30 AM PST, you wrote: The vulgar literal translation to English is The Bald Mouse!. I know...but I still think it looks nice. :-) In any vulgar translation from one language to another, there can be interesting cultural connotations inferred. I guess that because in France they're willing to eat just about anything (prepared very nicely to be sure...but anything nonetheless!), a bald mouse might be more convenient than one with all that messy hair to deal with. Eee...visions of various gourmet foods I've encountered from various parts of the world are creeping into my head, and some of these visions are rather disturbing! :-) -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bald Mouse 2! (- was TB! 2)
I see you're using La Chauve-Souris! (v2.01.3) as your mailer. Does that mean you're using Linux? MR Hee hee...no. It's The Bat! in French. :-) rg The vulgar literal translation to English is The Bald Mouse!. G Shouldn't that be The Flying Bold Mouse? The accepted translation is The Bat! but the etemology is references to hairlessness and to mouse (but none to flying). -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:The Bald Mouse 2! (- was TB! 2)
Hello rich, Sunday, November 2, 2003, 9:42:25 PM, you wrote: I see you're using La Chauve-Souris! (v2.01.3) as your mailer. Does that mean you're using Linux? MR Hee hee...no. It's The Bat! in French. :-) rg The vulgar literal translation to English is The Bald Mouse!. G Shouldn't that be The Flying Bold Mouse? The accepted translation is The Bat! but the etemology is references to hairlessness and to mouse (but none to flying). In german it's a mouse too, a Fledermaus, but I have no idea, what the 'Fleder' stands for... maybe a pun on Leder (leather), as in the leathery wings? -- Regards, Jurgen Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... Using The Bat! v2.01.20, Opera v7.21.3218 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP info display
Roelof- Sunday, November 2, 2003, 12:34:03 AM, you wrote: RO MIME singing is merely a waste of time. ...unless it's accompaniment to air guitar... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP info display
Hello Allie, Sunday, November 2, 2003, 3:55:05 AM, you wrote: AM If you're referring to the new tabbed version of the message that AM appears after verification, then it's not stored. It will not be AM there when you reopen the message after going to another message AM in the list. I hadn't noticed that. I guess that there is not much point in saving verifications. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Despatcher receive settings
On Monday, November 3, 2003, 12:07:36 AM, Julian wrote: What might be happening is that you have TB set up to leave messages on the server. The ones that have Receive unticked are ones that have been downloaded, and the others are new. No messages are left on the server, so all the messages viewed in the Despatcher are new messages each time it opens. In one of the accounts where this happens there are no filters set, I view all the available messages, all of which are new. All have the read checkbox checked, all have the delete checkbox checked, but just a few have the receive checkbox checked. I realise I can use the shortcut key to toggle all the receive items off but there has to be some reason why some messages have it on and most have it off. -- Gordon Woolf The Worsley Press Hastings, Victoria, Australia www.worsleypress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Book: Success in Store - How to Start or Buy a Retail Business, Enjoy Running It and Make Money Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bald Mouse 2! (- was TB! 2)
Hallo Jurgen, On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:28:18 +0100GMT (2-11-03, 22:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JH In german it's a mouse too, a Fledermaus, but I have no idea, JH what the 'Fleder' stands for... Stands for wing. In some parts of Holland 'vleder' is still being used (though not much) for wing. And considering the common roots of Dutch and German... -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
