Message files -- versions 1.6x and 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg
I have one computer on Win98SE with The Bat! 1.62 and a new computer with WinXP-Home and The Bat! 2.12. Do the messages.tbb and messages.tbi have the same structure in both of the above versions? i.e. can I copy the *.tbb and *.tbi from one computer to another? Or do I have to use Backup and

Re: Message files -- versions 1.6x and 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo z5worg, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:05:14 -0400GMT (27-10-2004, 8:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z I have one computer on Win98SE with The Bat! 1.62 and a new computer Z with WinXP-Home and The Bat! 2.12. Z Do the messages.tbb and messages.tbi have the same structure in both Z of the

Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Gerard
Hi Bat Users, Can I please get some help on forwarding a HTML mail. The problem seems to be with embedded pictures. All the receiving party sees when they select the HTML part is the text and the little redboxes were the pictures should go and a list of JPG's on the side. I have been

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:40:40 +0200GMT (27-10-2004, 11:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z Can I please get some help on forwarding a HTML mail. Z The problem seems to be with embedded pictures. All the Z receiving party sees when they select the HTML part is the text and Z the

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Gerard, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:40:40 AM, you wrote: Can I please get some help on forwarding a HTML mail. [...] Funny - I've had the same problem just yesterday... Does anyone have a solution for this? I haven't, sorry. Whats worse - same happens when you choose to redirect

HTML displaying in V.3.01

2004-10-27 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans, Previously HTML would not display, on upgrading to 3.0 and later, I see HTML, particularly from users of Chinese versions of Windoze. Is there a setting I am missing here so that I can see plain text as the main screen? No plain text shows in these particular e-mails. -- John

Re: HTML displaying in V.3.01

2004-10-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo John, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:19:45 +1000GMT (27-10-2004, 12:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Is there a setting I am missing here so that I can see plain text as the JP main screen? No plain text shows in these particular e-mails. Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor --

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:54:37 AM, you wrote: RO Use alternative forward, that way the original message is sent as it RO is, as an attachment. Hi Roelof, lIsn't alternative forward the same a redirect? If not how do you do this alernative forward? -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:03:24 +0200GMT (27-10-2004, 13:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Use alternative forward, that way the original message is sent as it RO is, as an attachment. Z lIsn't alternative forward the same a redirect? No. You can forward a message in two ways,

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Cory
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:02:55 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to forward/redirect HTML and preserve the original message - IMHO this is a must-have function, is this on the wishlist already? A whole lot of flaws regarding HTML formatting should be solved ages ago, but

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 27 Oct 2004, @ @ at 02:33:58 +0100, when MFPA wrote: Hi On Tuesday, 26 October, 2004, at 3:13:52 PM, Michael Geyer wrote: That's one of the effects of a missing cancel

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 1:17:33 PM, you wrote: Z Isn't alternative forward the same a redirect? No. You can forward a message in two ways, with the original message in the body of your message or with the original message as an attachment. What is normal and what is

PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg
I have copied the 3 batpgpNN.dll files (the same ones from version 1.6x) in The Bat!'s program directory. However, when I click on Tools OpenPGP Choose OpenPGP Version, the Open PGP 6.0x/6.5x plugin is grayed out. How do I make the plugin a selectable option? -- Thanks in advance JM Using

Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
I have just ordered V3 Pro! I am sure not to exploit the advantages of the Pro, but indeed, 2 EUR is noy so lot. And perhaps other advantageous functions will be available and only for Pro version… I wanted to boycott this purchase, because I had asked for a free renewal of my V2 licence

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Wil, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 2:37:49 PM, you wrote: Now I am irritated a little, because this morning I see the information of Denis (TB-FR) concerning the preferential rate (www.ritlabs.com/upgrade-privilege-pro.html) and I know now that Ritlabs didn’t offer me a commercial

Re: hard code percent sign (i.e. %) in QT?

2004-10-27 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:14:06 +1300 (12:14 AM EDT here) Allister Jenks wrote: Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:09:35 PM, Greg wrote: GS Anyway to hard code a percent sign (i.e. %) so it actually shows GS up in a message derived from a quick template? Don't know for fact, but often something like %%

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Mica, If there is an interest to know this, an esoteric move (in both FS) replacing the function of the missing cancel button is pushing ESC button. ESC does _not_ cancel every addition, deletion or change done since opening the Sorting Office. Not at all. -- Best regards, Miguel A.

Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Acklin
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 7:02:48 AM, (Internet Time - @543) you wrote: Hello Alexander, ASK When I use alternative forward, I end up with an empty reply template ASK and a 1.eml attachment with the original HTML message just as you ASK said but em... ASK Well, forwarding messages with

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 8:51 AM, you wrote: MM ... replacing the function of the missing cancel button is MM pushing ESC button. M ESC does _not_ cancel every addition, deletion or change done since M opening the Sorting Office. Not at all. I have just put a note to the

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello WilWilWil! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 7:37 AM, you wrote, in part: W Can my contribution and my 15 EUR enable them to improve TB and to W mature their trade relationship. I fully appreciate your frustrations and was pleased to read what you referred to as your polemic. And as you've

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, Please support? With a note of your own? I am sure Rit guys are well aware of this need, what probably happens is that it may not be as easy to implement as we may think. See my Oct. 16th mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBeta. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:51:20 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 20:51 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: No. An unparked message can sit in the Outbox for days due to connection problems. Then it will suddenly be sent. Who is to know on which day? M Yes, of course. That is a quite common situation,

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:02:48 -0500 GMT (26/10/2004, 20:02 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: FWIW, I reviewed all my filters and found I had a filter named New Rule that had no conditions and no actions. I have since deleted it, so maybe that was the source of the problem. AM I'm

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
ASK That priviledge update is for beta testers only. Sure ? Beta testers or not, anybody can click on this link and obtain such price. No password, no control... Click and you are redirected to pavement on Element5 Site... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP

Re: Connection broken before Message Dispatcher displays

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:57:32 -0500 GMT (26/10/2004, 19:57 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB I have just had an experience that never happened to me before. For MB about 15 minutes, while my number of mails increased from 4 to 9, the MB Connection Centre would announce the number of

Re: HTML displaying in V.3.01

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello John, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:19:45 +1000 GMT (27/10/2004, 17:19 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP Previously HTML would not display, on upgrading to 3.0 and later, I see JP HTML, particularly from users of Chinese versions of Windoze. I'm using Chinese Windows. Are you sure you are

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 10:04 AM, you wrote: MB Please support? With a note of your own? M I am sure Rit guys are well aware of this need, what probably M happens is that it may not be as easy to implement as we may think. M See my Oct. 16th mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on M

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
MB Hello WilWilWil! Hello Mary Bull MB In defense of RitLabs, MB 1) They truly are a very small company. They are writing in a language MB which is a foreign language to them when they write in English. And I MB think French is also a foreign language to them. Yes, but Ritlabs was very good in

Re: Connection broken before Message Dispatcher displays

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 10:27 AM, you wrote, in part: MB Log file would say (just one example): MB 10/26/2004, 07:07:51: FETCH - authenticated (plain) MB !10/26/2004, 07:08:52: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last MB commands sent were: UIDL, TOP 1 5) MB 10/26/2004,

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello WilWilWil everyone else 27-Okt-2004 17:21, you wrote: ASK That priviledge update is for beta testers only. Sure ? Beta testers or not, anybody can click on this link and obtain such price. No password, no control... Click and you are redirected to pavement on Element5 Site... Yes.

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:22 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 23:19 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: MM Netscape Messenger is an example having such feature, and it is quite MM simple, normal, and standard one. RO Actually, telling me that some other client has the same feature won't RO mean

Re: HTML displaying in V.3.01

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:32:37 +0700 GMT (27/10/2004, 22:32 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Are you sure you are seeing HTML versions, or are these users posting TF in TUF, causing TB to switch to the RTV by default? ^^^ UTF -- Cheers, Thomas. Man: How do you

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, Okay. I get your point. Sending a cup of coffee your way, as I slept late and the fresh pot is still hot, here. :) Delicious coffee, as usual :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello WilWilWil! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 10:43 AM, you wrote, in part: MB Since you are indeed trying so hard and bending over backwards to MB be gracious to everyone, I would encourage you to subscribe to MB the tbbeta list and read there for awhile and post there, if you MB want to. W

Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Michael Acklin everyone else 27-Okt-2004 16:21, you wrote: I have no way of checking the actual message for sure, but I believe the second method, as Roelof mentioned, with the box checked will show the message in HTML to the person you are sending it to. I have tried that meanwhile,

Re: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else 27-Okt-2004 08:03, you wrote: I have copied the 3 batpgpNN.dll files (the same ones from version 1.6x) in The Bat!'s program directory. However, when I click on Tools OpenPGP Choose OpenPGP Version, the Open PGP 6.0x/6.5x plugin is grayed out. I'm

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, So you support the wish? ;-) Not really. I don't mind if it is implemented for the benefit of others, but I have personally never felt the need in my 10+ years on the Internet. Maybe because I usually write my e-mail 2 or 3 days _after_ I should have done so and send them

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi Alexander, I'd say anyone who uses this link to buy, while not being a registered beta tester at Ritlabs, does not buy a legal license. Normally, yes. But Ritlabs told him to use the link as far as I understand. So it should be legal. -- Regards, Raymund

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text=== From: Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:58:56 PM Subject: Boycott then purchase of V3 ASK Yes. However, the link was originally only published on the TBBETA list; ASK I'd say

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
RTT Normally, yes. But Ritlabs told him to use the link as far as I RTT understand. So it should be legal. Not exactly. Ritlabs give me a special link to order :https://secure.element5.com/esales/cart.html?PRODUCT[5423... But I've seen a public link on Ritlabs SIte found by

Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-27 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 6:05:42 PM, you wrote: ASK If I forward an HTML message, the forward message should open as HTML and ASK the unaltered original message should be part of any forward/redirect. Hi Alexander, My feeling exactly. -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 27 Oct 2004, @ @ at 15:51:59 +0200, when MAU wrote: Hello Mica, If there is an interest to know this, an esoteric move (in both FS) replacing the function of the missing

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday, 27 October, 2004, at 1:37:49 PM, WilWilWil wrote: I have just ordered V3 Pro! [...] I wanted to boycott this purchase, because I had asked for a free renewal of my V2 licence towards V3 because it had less than 3 months. Boycott, because Ritlabs did not answer me.

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MFPA! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 4:15 PM, you wrote: RL You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The Bat! RL version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time RL limit in using. Upgrading is optional. M At least I got Hello and Best regards. I remember.

Re: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 11:09:40 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but IIRC v2 doesn't need the batpgpNN DLL's anymore. You can install PGP (version 5,6,7 or 8) and should be able to select PGP 5,6,7,8 (built in support) from the menu; at least thats how it

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
MB So, if you still want v. 3.0.1.33, go to the link that WilWilWil MB posted and get it for a very small further investment? MB In my opinion, it is absolutely only fair for you to have it under the MB same terms as those offered to WilWilWil! Good and equitable way... :-) -- WilWilWil

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello WilWilWil! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:18 PM, you wrote: MB In my opinion, it is absolutely only fair for you to have it MB under the same terms as those offered to WilWilWil! After only 2 weeks or 3 months, respectively, use of v. 2.12.00. W Good and equitable way... :-) Right

Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread WilWilWil
M You fared better than I did. I emailed Ritlabs on 4th September, having M purchased my version 2 licence on 20th August. They only took two M days to reply to me with:- RL You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. Wrong : bugs are debug only in V3 now, and user of V2 are alone with

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello WilWilWil! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:33 PM, you wrote, in part: W So good developers team with so pitiful sales service... Yes. But something got through to them between the almost immediate, very bad response to MFPA and the weeks-later rude offering to you of a substantial

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Oct 2004, @ @ at 00:33:35 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: My latest boss always says It's no necessary to have the best product : in 3rd millennium, customer want just a

Re[2]: Migration from v1.6 to 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg
Tuesday, October 26, 2004, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:07:56 AM, you wrote: How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without having to re-create all of them?

Re: Migration from v1.6 to 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2004-Oct-26 10:30:44 PM Migration from v1.6 to 2.12 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. I downloaded one of the files. How do I replace the program icons with the downloaded *.bmp file? Copy the downloaded file into your The Bat! directory (normally C:\Program Files\The Bat!).

Re[2]: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 11:09:40 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but IIRC v2 doesn't need the batpgpNN DLL's anymore. You can install PGP (version 5,6,7 or 8) and should be able to

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday, 27 October, 2004, at 1:37:49 PM, WilWilWil wrote: I have just ordered V3 Pro! I am sure not to exploit the advantages of the Pro, but indeed, 2 EUR is noy so lot. And perhaps other advantageous functions will be available and only for Pro version… I wanted to boycott this

Re: [the_bat] Re[2]: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Acklin
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 8:47:25 PM, (Internet Time - @116) you wrote: Hello z5worg, zzc I have PGP 6.5.8 freeware. The batpgpNN DLL's were the ones downloaded zzc from Ritlab sometime ago. But as I said, I unzipped the files into the zzc Program directory, and the Choose OpenPGP Version

Re: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Thursday, 28 October, 2004, at 2:47:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] However, if you're running PGP v8, the integrated support is the best to use. But it still gives me problems such as reported at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3488 Is there a PGP v8 freeware? Yes.

Re: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 8:47:25 PM [GMT -0500], Z5worg wrote: I have PGP 6.5.8 freeware. The batpgpNN DLL's were the ones downloaded from Ritlab sometime ago. But as I said, I unzipped the files into the Program directory, and the Choose OpenPGP Version option is grayed out. Where

Re: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Thursday, 28 October, 2004, at 3:12:35 AM, Allie Martin wrote: [...] They're usually placed either in the TB! installation directory or in any directory that's in your system path. I keep seeing the terms system path and (in tip of the day) system's PATH Environment variable. Does

Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bugs strongly handicapping me in V2 are corrected in V3. Did I have I bought v2 last January; but haven't really used it yet. I just installed it on a new computer last week. I am still using v1.62. What kinds of bugs

kav plugin?

2004-10-27 Thread Dave Wilson
Hi all, I use nod32 as my primary av program, but I also have kav pro version 4 for on demand scanning. My question is; is there a kav plugin for TB! 3 and if so, where would I get it please? I have tried googling to no avail...:-( Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED]