Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Paul Jansen


 Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
 the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
 filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

Anyone have any comments on this?

Thanks

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Paul,

Thursday, November 4, 2004, 10:01:35 AM, you wrote:

 Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
 the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
 filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

 Anyone have any comments on this?

If there's no reply, my guess would be no one has...

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul,

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:48:55 +GMT (2-11-2004, 15:48 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

PJ Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
PJ the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
PJ filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

It isn't possible to do this without creating a filter for each
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Mod: Cut mark (was: Reply Filtering)

2004-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul,

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:01:35 +GMT (4-11-2004, 10:01 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

PJ Anyone have any comments on this?

PJ Thanks

PJ PJ




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Re: One filter in a group triggering

2004-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Ian,

 Here are three filters that you might want to try.

I'll take a look tonight (my time). Too busy right now.

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 3:48:55 PM, you wrote:
PJ Dear All,

PJ Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
PJ the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
PJ filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

Hi Paul,

What I do is filter on Address book. All sent and received mail gets send to the
same folder using the same filter.

Their is no filter action that looks in which folder the original mail was and
therefore it is not possible to do what you want. You can only get the reply to
the same folder if you send the original to a specific folder with a filter
action.


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Re[2]: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Paul Jansen
Gerard,

You wrote:

 What I do is filter on Address book. All sent and received mail gets send to the
 same folder using the same filter.

Thanks for your contribution, can you expand on how you do this?

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Filtering based on search from TXT file.

2004-11-04 Thread speedguy
Hi,

Currently I am filtering my mails based on conditions like

if sender belogns to gruop1 and doesn't belong to group2

i would like to know if it is possible that instead of using group, i can check again 
set of email addresses from a plain text file.

if sender is found in file1.txt and is not found in file2.txt

Thanks.

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Re: Filtering based on search from TXT file.

2004-11-04 Thread finalcut
Hello speedguy

On 4.November.2004, 7:05 AM (Now: 4.November.2004, 7:26 AM),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

s Hi,
s Currently I am filtering my mails based on conditions like
s if sender belogns to gruop1 and doesn't belong to group2
s i would like to know if it is possible that instead of using group, i can
s check again set of email addresses from a plain text file.
s if sender is found in file1.txt and is not found in file2.txt
s Thanks.
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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, November 4, 2004, 12:47:01 PM, you wrote:
PJ Gerard,

PJ You wrote:

 What I do is filter on Address book. All sent and received mail gets send to the
 same folder using the same filter.

PJ Thanks for your contribution, can you expand on how you do this?

This filter is on my Incoming mail filter list and in my Outgoing mail filter
list.

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [D848937E.01C4A58A.76A85703.7647C313]
Name: Zakelijk\20in\20adresboek
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCPR\5CInbox\5CKlanten
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter

The Incoming mail filter, filters all my business contacts, who are all in my
address book folder zakelijk to a specific folder. I have the same for
friends, private, golf, etc.

The same filter in my Outgoing filter list filters all mails sent to my business
contact to the same folder.


I use addressbooks to do my filtering but you can also do this for each specific
emailaddress. I just find it easier to group my contact this way. I use my mail
as you can see for Business and Pleasure :-)

Hope this helps.


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Re: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 As Martin said, it depends on OS settings: if on the OS level is set
 that system files are hidden, then TC will obey to this rule (will not
 see them, although it will display them with an exclamation mark in
 the icon). So you would just have to change this OS setting to show
 system (or all) files and TC will be able to apply all actions on them
 it can, including copying.

 If by OS settings you mean TC's settings, it was sett to show
 hidden/system files and I can see them.

No, OS stands for Operative System, and in your case it is the XP.

.

 Do I need some specific settings in WinXP?  [I am the only user on that
 computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

Yes, you'd need. You may set this up in Windows Explorer (I think it is
somewhere under View menu), but as Miguel said, it is a sensitive
thing: if we do not know exactly what we are doing we can screw our
system up very easily, which is not a big tragedy since Windows does it
to itself by definition and on a regular basis, but the only problem is
then that you'd need to reinstall it again and most of if not all the
programs as well, somewhere along the way loosing perhaps few of your
important or even precious documents - and all of this needs some TIME,
some for work and some for mourning, which may be done simultaneously or
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Re: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mica,

Thursday, November 4, 2004, 1:44:37 PM, you wrote:

 Do I need some specific settings in WinXP? [I am the only user on
 that computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

 Yes, you'd need. You may set this up in Windows Explorer (I think it
 is somewhere under View menu)

I don't think that information is correct. I have TC configured to
show hidden  system files while Explorer hides them. No problem. The
Explorer setting does not affect the TC setting.

(Actually, I've come to appreciate this very much, since my girlfriend
- who is using my computer @ home sometimes - is the Explorer kinda
person that doesn't want to see *.ini and *.dll and *.whatnot files,
while I'm the geeky-nerdish kinda guy who does want to have control
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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Gerard,

Thursday, November 4, 2004, 12:26:20 PM, you wrote:


 Their is no filter action that looks in which folder the original
 mail was and therefore it is not possible to do what you want. You
 can only get the reply to the same folder if you send the original
 to a specific folder with a filter action.

H... thinking about that... is it possible to pass variables as
user param's in the NFS? I mean... we have a source folder option to
filter against, now if we could use the source folder in the user
parameters of the NFS (action set user param) we could auto-sort
sent mail to the correct source folder with one single filter...

(but I think user param's are static - its worth a wish, though...
maybe... ?)

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, November 4, 2004, 2:26:29 PM, you wrote:
ASK (but I think user param's are static - its worth a wish, though...
ASK maybe... ?)

Hi Alexander,

I think the idea of filtering replies into the same folder as the original mail,
is worth a whish regards less of how it is implemented.

I would prefer just a simple tick mark dialog saying place replies in same
folder a original somewhere under preferences, but I guess the regexp boys and
girls will prefer the %originating_folder macro :-)


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Re: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 Hello Mica,

 Thursday, November 4, 2004, 1:44:37 PM, you wrote:

 Do I need some specific settings in WinXP? [I am the only user on
 that computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

 Yes, you'd need. You may set this up in Windows Explorer (I think it
 is somewhere under View menu)

 I don't think that information is correct. I have TC configured to
 show hidden  system files while Explorer hides them. No problem. The
 Explorer setting does not affect the TC setting.

Seems that in XP is (or can be) a bit different. I had TC configured to
show all files, and the files were shown, but no action I could apply on
them. So I had to change settings on OS level. Then it worked. It was a
default XP Home, with no a service pack.

 (Actually, I've come to appreciate this very much, since my girlfriend
 - who is using my computer @ home sometimes - is the Explorer kinda
 person that doesn't want to see *.ini and *.dll and *.whatnot files,
 while I'm the geeky-nerdish kinda guy who does want to have control
 over every file *gg*).

Yes, that might be very handy when we share our machine. g On my
machine, Windows is even not visible at all. You firstly have to boot in
DOS, then in (command line/terminal) Linux, then to decrypt some
sensitive WinOS files, and reboot to DOS, and proceed to Windows.
Then, if you want to get/send a mail, you have to mount a container with
Mail and The Bat, and before you get connection you have to decrypt
Dial-up Networking.

THAT's a :grin: .

:banana:

Of course I don't do that just because I am such a selfish freak; I am
just experimenting with possibilities. :eyes:

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Re: Install problem

2004-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello list,

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:09:23 +0700 GMT (31/10/2004, 01:09 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF I ended up setting up Outlook Expess for him, and it works.

This is OT, but I thought I'd share this with you. He called me
yesterday, complaining that his email doesn't work at all. A customer
had sent him a message, but he couldn't receive it. He had opened OE,
connected to the internet, but nothing. He had stared at the screen
for half an hour before calling me.

I suggested he click on check mail. And hoppla, three mails came in.
No further comments.

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:48:55 + (9:48 AM EST here) Paul Jansen wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered
 to the same folder as the original message without having to set up
 a filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

I haven't tried this, but I think this will work with version 2.
Perhaps it will work with version 3.

1. Tag the reply's From: address.

Change each folder's reply template, so the name field in a reply's
From: will be tagged uniquely, to indicate which folder was being read
when the reply was initiate.

For example, if John Smith's folders were named Whiskey, November, and
Tango, he might add the following lines to their reply templates
(respectively):

%FROM=%FROM=John (Whk) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-

%FROM=%FROM=John (Nov) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-

%FROM=%FROM=John (Tgo) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-

2. Filter the sent messages.

Set up an outgoing mail filters, one for each folder.

For example, the Whiskey filter:

String: [(Whk)], Location: [Sender], Presence: [Yes]

Move messages to folder: [Whiskey]



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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello Group

On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 2:44:47 PM,  Mica wrote:

MM Yes, that might be very handy when we share our machine. g On my
MM machine, Windows is even not visible at all. You firstly have to
MM boot in DOS, then in (command line/terminal) Linux, then to
MM decrypt some sensitive WinOS files, and reboot to DOS, and
MM proceed to Windows. Then, if you want to get/send a mail, you have
MM to mount a container with Mail and The Bat, and before you get
MM connection you have to decrypt Dial-up Networking.

Is that what we can all look forward to in the next version of Windows
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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul,

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:48:55 + GMT (02/11/2004, 21:48 +0700 GMT),
Paul Jansen wrote:

PJ Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
PJ the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
PJ filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

Use %Comment=%Folder in the Reply template.

In the Outgoing filters, filter on this header.

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Gerard  everyone else

04-Nov-2004 15:09, you wrote:

 I would prefer just a simple tick mark dialog saying place replies in
 same folder a original somewhere under preferences, but I guess the
 regexp boys and girls will prefer the %originating_folder macro :-)

A tickbox, tsetsetse... you are so... so... modern! ;-)

Just kidding, I'd vote for the tickbox solution, too...

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, November 4, 2004, 5:21:32 PM, you wrote:
ASK A tickbox, tsetsetse... you are so... so... modern! ;-)

ASK Just kidding, I'd vote for the tickbox solution, too...

I will (tick) mark that as support ;-)

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Thursday, 4 November, 2004, at 3:56:43 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Hello Paul,

 On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:48:55 + GMT (02/11/2004, 21:48 +0700 GMT),
 Paul Jansen wrote:

PJ Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically filtered to
PJ the same folder as the original message without having to set up a
PJ filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot of folders!

 Use %Comment=%Folder in the Reply template.

%SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName) ?

 In the Outgoing filters, filter on this header.

Can he do this without having a filter for each folder?

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Microsoft keyboard configurator

2004-11-04 Thread G. Minnerup
Have just tried the above but it doesn't work with TB. Is that because of the Bat's 
missing Unicode support?

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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread z5worg

Thursday, November 04, 2004, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .

 Do I need some specific settings in WinXP?  [I am the only user on that
 computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

 Yes, you'd need. You may set this up in Windows Explorer (I think it is
 somewhere under View menu),

The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and
folders  and Hide protected operating system files is also
unchecked.  But I still cannot open the System Volume Information
folder.  Have you open that folder and copied any files from that
folder?  If not, would you try and let me know?  I am simply trying to
use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation of WinXP); so 
that if I need to reinstall
a clean copy of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it
would be mostly all configured.

 but as Miguel said, it is a sensitive
 thing: if we do not know exactly what we are doing we can screw our
 system up very easily, which is not a big tragedy since Windows does it
 to itself by definition and on a regular basis, but the only problem is
 then that you'd need to reinstall it again and most of if not all the
 programs as well, somewhere along the way loosing perhaps few of your
 important or even precious documents - and all of this needs some TIME,
 some for work and some for mourning, which may be done simultaneously or
 separately, depending on attitude we grow in such moments, or on our
 specific habits, dictated by our particular culture, being it our
 personal one, or of some wider nature we as individuals accept and obey
 to, preferably willingly.

I appreciate your kind note of caution. But I resent Miguel's tone
(and people like him) who jumps to conclusion and thinks he knows it
all when he couldn't possibly have.

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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerard,

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:29:17 +0100GMT (4-11-2004, 20:29 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

ASK A tickbox, tsetsetse... you are so... so... modern! ;-)
ASK Just kidding, I'd vote for the tickbox solution, too...
Z I will (tick) mark that as support ;-)

Anybody added it to the wishlist yet?

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Re: One filter in a group triggering

2004-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Ian,

 Here are three filters that you might want to try.

As promised this morning, I've been doing some thorough testing and I
believe I found bug in the behaviour of Common sub-filters.

If you are subscribed to TBBeta, please see my:

  mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or the bug report I've just opened at:

  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

Once the bug is fixed, you will not feel the need for an exit action.

-- 
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PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread P.Johnson
Hello,

I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus
protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin
Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this
suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility
between email programs and virus software.

On the Trend site, under System Requirements, email, The Bat! is not
listed. I asked whether PC-cillin would scan my TB! mail, and got this
reply:

We have no answer to this question for now but you may try using your
software but please enable the webmail scan feature. If you experience
any problems, please do not hesitate to write us.
Hope this helps.

Hmmm.

Thank you!

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
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Message attachments incomplete or missing bytes??

2004-11-04 Thread Jason Grunstra
Hello, I'm new to the group. I've been using The Bat! 3.0 for a few months and have 
been experiencing problems with file attachments on incoming emails. In the Message 
List area, the Size column displays the correct number of bytes. But in the preview 
pane the size of the attachment is much smaller, if I try to save/open the attachment 
it the file saved to disk matches the smaller file size and is not the complete file, 
so the file will not open.

If I login to the webmail interface for my email I can download the file in it's 
entirety. So it does not appear to be a server issue. I am using IMAP as a protocol. 
Any ideas on how to fix this?

I've experienced this with Word.Doc, Adobe.Pdf, Excel.xls files to name a few.

Thanks.

-Jason



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Re: Message attachments incomplete or missing bytes??

2004-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jason,

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:47:50 -0800GMT (5-11-2004, 0:47 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JG Hello, I'm new to the group.

Welcome.

JG I've been using The Bat! 3.0 for a few months and have been
JG experiencing problems with file attachments on incoming emails.

Though I won't promise that it cures your problem (I'm not into IMAP
myself), did you try to upgrade to TB 3.0.1.33 that's the latest
release and it had some serious bugfixes on the IMAP part too.

JG Thanks.

JG -Jason

JG 
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Please insert a proper signature delimiter dashdashspace on a
line by itself. When you add that to the templates you're using for
this list, you've got that fully automated.
That will save people replying to your message the trouble of deleting
the list footer.
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-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Facts are stubborn things.

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Re: PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread Leo Landa

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, P.Johnson wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus
 protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin
 Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this
 suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility
 between email programs and virus software.

I have a Trend Micro Office Suite mandatory at work, including the laptop 
which runs The Bat (1.x) for my private mail. I receive a lot of spam, and 
some of it is virus-infected. The problem is, that when the Bat stores 
this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. 
For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because 
OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is 
not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling 
period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the 
server.

Plus, all our admins receive a virus warning.

Hence, I have been asked to remove The Bat.

Just my experience - those problems may be obsolete by now.

Leo.




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Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread WilWilWil


LL I have a Trend Micro Office Suite mandatory at work, including the laptop 
LL which runs The Bat (1.x) for my private mail. I receive a lot of spam, and 
LL some of it is virus-infected. The problem is, that when the Bat stores 
LL this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. 
LL For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because 
LL OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is 
LL not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling 
LL period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the 
LL server.

LL Plus, all our admins receive a virus warning.

LL Hence, I have been asked to remove The Bat.

LL Just my experience - those problems may be obsolete by now.

Not so obsolete. I had the same problem when testing KAV personal Pro 5 with TB3 !

TB3 froze because KAV blocked some TB databases files. It was very annoying. That why 
I 've chosen AVG 7. Now viruses are great managed and moved to quarantine without 
perturbation.

And for firewall I use Kerio Personal Firewall 4. It's free and work well with my 
system (AVG / Ad-Aware 6 / TB3).

I feel well protected. :-) 

Maybe an illusion...

-- 
WilWilWil 
:flag-france:


TB 3.0.1.33
BayesIt! 0.7.3
Windows XP
Service Pack 1

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Re: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello z5worg,

I'll start by the end of your message.

 I appreciate your kind note of caution. But I resent Miguel's tone
 (and people like him) who jumps to conclusion and thinks he knows it
 all when he couldn't possibly have.

Sorry if I offended you in some way. It was not my intention. And no, I
know very well that I do not know everything. Much the contrary. But
usually, not always, when I talk about something is because I think I
know what I'm talking about. And believe me, many of the things I know I
learnt by listening to people who know more than me.

Now to your other paragraph:

 The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and
 folders and Hide protected operating system files is also
 unchecked. But I still cannot open the System Volume Information
 folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that
 folder? If not, would you try and let me know? I am simply trying to
 use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation
 of WinXP); so that if I need to reinstall a clean copy of WinXP, I can
 simply do a copy from this backup and it would be mostly all
 configured.

To be able to open, or view or copy the System Volume Information you
would need to change the the access permissions because, as I think I
told you in my previous message, it is only accessible to the system. In
particular for System Restore.

On the other hand, even if you could do so, backing up the System
Volume Information would serve you no purpose because if you are going
to install XP again, it will create/configure a new System Volume
Information for each volume (drive or partition).

Anyway, if you are curious and what to see what's inside, take a look at:

   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

or

   http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm

or search Google for more links.



-- 
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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread Dan Grunberg
Thu, 4 Nov 2004 22:05:21 + (5:05 PM EST here) MFPA wrote:


 Hi

 On Thursday, 4 November, 2004, at 3:56:43 PM, Thomas Fernandez
 wrote:

 Hello Paul,

 On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:48:55 + GMT (02/11/2004, 21:48 +0700
 GMT), Paul Jansen wrote:

PJ Is it possible to have a reply to an e-mail automatically
PJ filtered to the same folder as the original message without
PJ having to set up a filter for each folder?  I have quite a lot
PJ of folders!

 Use %Comment=%Folder in the Reply template.

 %SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName) ?

 In the Outgoing filters, filter on this header.

 Can he do this without having a filter for each folder?

Create a Quick Template, let's call it ComFold

%Rem BEGIN QT ComFold===%-
%-
%SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%-
%-
%Rem END QT ComFold===%-

Then add this line to each folder's Reply Template:

%QINCLUDE(ComFold)


All of the Outgoing Mail filters will be the similar, so

1. Inside TheBat!, create and troubleshoot an Outgoing Mail filter for
   one of the folders.

2. Copy the Outgoing Mail filter and paste and re-paste it into a word
   processor document once for each of the remaining folders.

3. Systematically use the word processor to

 Change the names of the pasted filters.

 Change the folder names in each copied filter.

4. Copy the whole word processor document and paste it into TheBat!'s
   Outgoing Mail filters.


Certainly this is a pain, but certainly it can be done. Perhaps it can
be done in the time it takes to complain about having to do it. |grin|

   


Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9,
   MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80
   Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4

-- 

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Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread Jason Grunstra
You might want to try a server based spam/virus filter. At our company we use 
Sentinare PostGuard www.sentinare.com so that spam/viruses are trapped on the server 
level, so that they don't waste time/resources downloading and scanning garbage emails.

They have a easy web-based quarantine interface in case you need to rescue a message, 
but it's rare that you have to. They use SpamAssassian and some other filters to get 
really good accuracy, my account at work is 99.6% accurate.

-Jason


===Original message text===
From: Leo Landa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2004, 3:58:12 PM
Subject: PC-cillin and TB!


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, P.Johnson wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus
 protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin
 Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this
 suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility
 between email programs and virus software.

I have a Trend Micro Office Suite mandatory at work, including the laptop 
which runs The Bat (1.x) for my private mail. I receive a lot of spam, and 
some of it is virus-infected. The problem is, that when the Bat stores 
this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. 
For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because 
OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is 
not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling 
period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the 
server.

Plus, all our admins receive a virus warning.

Hence, I have been asked to remove The Bat.

Just my experience - those problems may be obsolete by now.

Leo.




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End of original message text===



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Re: PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Pat!

On Thursday, November 04, 2004, 5:03 PM, you wrote:

PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and
PJ virus protection I can,

Pat, I have had no problems with F-Secure.

http://www.f-secure.com/

I am using only its AV (it now offers a suite, new this year, with
firewall) and I have just renewed my license, after one year's use.
The interface is friendly and it has the advantage of combining 3
separate virus-scanning engines. XP SP2 recognizes it. There's no
plug-in for TB!, but that's not necessary. F-Secure recognizes an
e-mail infection as it is being downloaded. It recognizes an infected
file as soon as it's clicked on.

For my firewall I'm using the free Sygate. Just upgraded to the latest
one. I like it for its simple user interface, also.

But WilWilWil has a good set-up, too, with the free anti-virus program
AVG--which *does* have a plug-in for TB!--and Kerio as firewall. I
used AVG for about six months. Left it for Kaspersky (KAV), because
Kaspersky updated more often. Kaspersky's interface I found quite
complicated. And it no longer supports The Bat! with a plug-in. Last
November I moved to F-Secure. It can be set to check automatically for
updates as often as you like. Virus Definitions are usually updated
daily, but sometimes more often.

The question of choosing an AV and a firewall to go with TB! comes up
rather often on tbudl. You might try a search on the Gmane archives
for more opinions.

-- 
Best regards,
Mary
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Re: Reply Filtering

2004-11-04 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday, 5 November, 2004, at 1:05:38 AM, Dan Grunberg wrote:


 In the Outgoing filters, filter on this header.

 Can he do this without having a filter for each folder?

That'll be a no then...

 Create a Quick Template, let's call it ComFold

 %Rem BEGIN QT ComFold===%-
 %-
 %SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%-
 %-
 %Rem END QT ComFold===%-

 Then add this line to each folder's Reply Template:

 %QINCLUDE(ComFold)

What is the advantage of using a Quick Template here, rather than
just adding the line
%SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%-
to all your reply templates?


 All of the Outgoing Mail filters will be the similar, so

 1. Inside TheBat!, create and troubleshoot an Outgoing Mail filter for
one of the folders.

 2. Copy the Outgoing Mail filter and paste and re-paste it into a word
processor document once for each of the remaining folders.

 3. Systematically use the word processor to

[...]

 4. Copy the whole word processor document and paste it into TheBat!'s
Outgoing Mail filters.

I like that trick.

 Certainly this is a pain, but certainly it can be done. Perhaps it can
 be done in the time it takes to complain about having to do it. |grin|

--
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MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re:PC-cillin and TB!

2004-11-04 Thread Michael Rudnick
P.Johnson,

Thursday, November 4, 2004, 6:03:59 PM, you wrote:
PJ Hello,

PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus
PJ protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin
PJ Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this
PJ suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility
PJ between email programs and virus software.

I use Trend OfficeScan, which has the same or similar engine to
PC-Cillin. I had to manually change my Account Properties so that the
mail server was 'localhost' and the user was of the format
'xxx%domain.com/pop.domain.com'. It's not as integrated as the
programs that work directly with TheBat! but the other features of the
product are nice.

-- 
Michael Rudnick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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TheBat! Visual Interface

2004-11-04 Thread Michael Rudnick
When Ritlabs announced v3.0 they said:

 Amongst all the improvements the most visually outstanding is the new
 look user interface. The opportunity to replace the default interface
 glyphs with those of your own preference has been expanded: you can
 now use transparent images and new formats of graphic files. You will
 soon be able to download alternative glyph sets from our website

Now that I've upgraded, can anyone tell me how to *easily* do this?

-- 
Michael Rudnick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Glyphs file folder

2004-11-04 Thread Ciprian Trofin
A friend has installed TB! v2.01.3 on both a desktop and a notebook.
However, the buttons (toolbars) look different on these computers. I think
a glyphs.bmp file is to blame, but I cannot find it in TB! instalation
folder.

Any suggestion?




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