Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working

2004-11-20 Thread Martin Webster
 
Chris Weaven [CW], wrote:

CW Does anyone have an unedited version of the files that they could
CW possibly send me?

You do... just re-run the MSI from Control Panel-Add or Remove
Programs and select Repair... so long as you didn't delete the
original installer.


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Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working

2004-11-20 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Tony,

On Friday, November 19, 2004 21:19 our local time, Tony Boom [TB] wrote;

 I have. I've sent the default.msl file to you by PM.

TB  I bet she's got a dozen of them now, I sent her one too.

Ah, the danger of having a universal name :-) Like Allie M, I am also
of the male gender :D

Maybe it's time I submitted my image to the rogues!?

Thanks for all the replies and PM's with the required file. Slightly
embarrassing, but the problems were with my install at work, I could've
simply sent the file to myself from my home install that works
perfectly.

Ah well, at least I've a backup copy should it happen again.

Thanks again for all the prompt offers for help ;-)
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Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working

2004-11-20 Thread Allie
Hi Chris Weaven,
 On 20/11/2004 6:07 AM, you wrote:
TB  I bet she's got a dozen of them now, I sent her one too.
Ah, the danger of having a universal name :-) Like Allie M, I am also
of the male gender :D
LOL!! I'm not alone. :)
Maybe it's time I submitted my image to the rogues!?
Where there's no opportunity for image submissions, and no-one is 
terribly familiar or not familiar with my first name, I now use my 
middle name. Saves a lot of trouble and confusion.

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Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working

2004-11-20 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Chris,

  A reminder of what Chris Weaven on TBUDL typed on:
  20 November 2004 at 11:07:35 GMT +

 Ah, the danger of having a universal name :-) Like Allie M, I am also
 of the male gender  

 I am so sorry Chris. My Sons name is Leslie and he even had to tell his
 school how to spell it, they had him down as a girl for years, Lesley.


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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi,

On Thursday, November 18, 2004 at 11:57:36 AM, WilWilWil wrote:

 Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
 Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
 there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks !

 I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this
 folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in
 Incoming mail section but not folders...

Isn't hook an other name for someone known ? I remember that an
install from fresh (not under a previous install) create a special
rule and a special folder but don't remember its name. I guess it was
Known people or something like that.

I tried to find hook in help and found Adressing your message.
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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,

W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks !
 
W I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this
W folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in
W Incoming mail section but not folders...
 
 I don't know how you got this.
 I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of
 Wil's problem:
 
 http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG

He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message
from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter  and the filter
triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.

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Re: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread Gerard

ON Friday, November 19, 2004, 11:46:17 PM, you wrote:
NL But I now have a spambase of over 4000
NL messages to work off of.

Hi Neal,

I only have 450 to work with sofar, but I would not like to trade with you :-)

I agree that BasesIt filter does a good job.
My settings are similar to yours.
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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU,

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:17:51 +0100GMT (20-11-2004, 13:17 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

 http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG

M He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message
M from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter  and the filter
M triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
M folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
M filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.

Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the
sorting office.

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Re: Command line usage

2004-11-20 Thread daRkSidE
In data Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:04:55 +, David Elliott ha scritto:

 Try setting up a short cut with 'Run as' and then calling that short cut. I
 am doing much the same on W2K Server.

Simply calling the short cut produces error 193 (I think it is a not
valid Win32 application). I've tried 'Run as', but I don't understand
what to do. If I select a specific user, it replies that password field
cannot be empty (and I set no password).

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Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working

2004-11-20 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Chris!

On Saturday, November 20, 2004, 5:07 AM, you wrote:

CW Maybe it's time I submitted my image to the rogues!?

Waiting patiently to see you!

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WilWilWil,

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks !

Ludovic's message gave me an idea, your known filter has disappeared.
I guess that's a tiny bit of filter corruption.

You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this.
Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor.
Close TB
Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account
Restart TB
Paste your filters back to the sorting office

Note: Don't forget to save your outgoing (etc) filters too.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,

M He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message
M from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter  and the filter
M triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
M folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
M filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.
 
 Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the
 sorting office.

You are right, I didn't pay attention to the icons. It may be then just
an icon display problem as Outgoing, Read, etc., also display a folder
icon. Wierd!

I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created.
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Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-20 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Roelof,
Friday, November 19, 2004, 8:42:10 PM, you wrote:

RO I don't know how you got this.
RO I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of
RO Wil's problem:

 Is it possible that the particular phrase Moving In Hooks comes
 from The Bat! itself. Since you are in the Sorting Office where
 Moving In, Moving Out, etc. are possible and the term Hooks is used
 in programming, maybe it has somehow grabbed this code from within
 The Bat! inadvertently. I have noticed recently that weird things
 seem to happen, as if code branches to somewhere it shouldn't. Not
 reproducible of course.

 For example, I had a mail check failure that stated it was trying to
 check my email prefix at a different ISP suffix. I do not have an
 account under my name at this ISP, but the place I work for does. it
 just seems to have mixed them up. It would not stop checking this
 wrong address until I restarted The Bat!
 
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Re[2]: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread John Morse
Back when Bayesit was a addin filter that didn't come with the_bat I
had it working fine, I trained it with thousands of spam messages.
But I lost all that when I reformated recently. and I installed the
latest greatest BAT and I noticed it came with Bayesit, I choose to
let it install it and I've been training it, but I just don't work
anymore, or never did for that mater. I guess I'm going to have to
find something else, I don't know why they chose to bundle a plugin
with TheBat that would take years of training just to get it to work.

~John

Saturday, November 20, 2004, 7:13:03 AM, you wrote:

G ON Friday, November 19, 2004, 11:46:17 PM, you wrote:
NL But I now have a spambase of over 4000
NL messages to work off of.

G Hi Neal,

G I only have 450 to work with sofar, but I would not like to trade with you 
:-)

G I agree that BasesIt filter does a good job.
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Re: [FYI] Abuse -- Spam-Reporting Software [Free]

2004-11-20 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday, 19 November, 2004, at 7:14:41 AM, thn wrote:


 UTF-8 messages are *only* displayed in the RTV. At least this is my
 experience. No idea why.

If you select Reply | View Original Text, the text of the original
message is displayed using the PTV.

Have reported at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4067

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread MFPA
Marck D Pearlstone
Hi

On Saturday, 20 November, 2004, at 12:52:18 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:


 I actually rather dislike replies to a person on a mailing list being
 addressed just to the list even more than the (pretty poor) habit of
 allowing TB's default of associating a person's name with the list
 address (shudder). I firmly believe that the method I (and many others
 here) use is the best of all worlds. You can see that I have replied
 to you directly and so can everyone else. Yet I still make it clear
 that the message addressed to you is not going to your email address.


I have just added the following line to my TBUDL reply template to
try and achieve this. Have I got it right? Worked this time.

%SetHeader(To,%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR)%-

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MFPA,

on Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:27:57 +GMT, you wrote:

 I actually rather dislike replies to a person on a mailing list being
 addressed just to the list even more than the (pretty poor) habit of
 allowing TB's default of associating a person's name with the list
 address (shudder). I firmly believe that the method I (and many others
 here) use is the best of all worlds. You can see that I have replied
 to you directly and so can everyone else. Yet I still make it clear
 that the message addressed to you is not going to your email address.


M I have just added the following line to my TBUDL reply template to
M try and achieve this. Have I got it right? Worked this time.

M %SetHeader(To,%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR)%-

It works as intended. I didn't know the approach via %SETHEADER, but
why not?! Many ways to skin a cat... :))

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread MFPA
Peter Meyns
Hi

On Saturday, 20 November, 2004, at 4:36:38 PM, Peter Meyns wrote:


M %SetHeader(To,%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR)%-

 It works as intended. I didn't know the approach via %SETHEADER, but
 why not?! Many ways to skin a cat... :))

It was the only way I could think of to do it.
Is there an easier way?

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Re[3]: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread Mike Rourke

Hi John,

JM let it install it and I've been training it, but I just don't work
JM anymore, or never did for that mater. I guess I'm going to have to
JM find something else, I don't know why they chose to bundle a plugin
JM with TheBat that would take years of training just to get it to work.

Like someone pointed out, BayesIt is hit or miss...it either works for
you or it doesn't. I couldn't get it to work well for a long time. But
on one install it just magically worked. I receive about 1200 e-mails
daily, 30% SPAM. I have maintained an overall accuracy rate of 99.87%
for 2 months now and never had a false positive. I have a quick
template that automatically e-mails my BayesIt data for the previous
day to myself. I went back and checked, over the past 40 days, I have
20 days that BayesIt scored a perfect 100% classification rate.

There were some suggestions on the list I implemented that seem to
have helped, like using the whitelist function to classify all the
mail from groups like this and keeping the the move to junk if score
is somewhere above 90.

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Mfpa,

@20-Nov-2004, 16:44 MFPA [M] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Peter:

M %SetHeader(To,%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR)%-

 It works as intended. I didn't know the approach via %SETHEADER, but
 why not?! Many ways to skin a cat... :))

M It was the only way I could think of to do it.
M Is there an easier way?

%to=''%to='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR'

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The embedded double quotes are
about not being caught out by names like Pearlstone, Marck or Marck
P Jr.

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MFPA,

  A reminder of what MFPA on TBUDL typed on:
  20 November 2004 at 16:27:57 GMT +

 Have I got it right? Worked this time.

 %SetHeader(To,%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR)%-

 This is what I got in mine

 %TO=%TO='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL %OREPLYADDR'%-


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Mass mailing in html

2004-11-20 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello TBUDL,

  I have an address book set up that I would like to mass mail an html
  message to. Is this possible? I don't have any problem mass mailing
  text only messages.

  At the very least I would like to mass mail a text only message with
  attachments.

  Could I compose an html message and paste it into a template?


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Re: Mass mailing in html

2004-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Scott,

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:11:23 -0800GMT (20-11-2004, 18:11 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

SF   I have an address book set up that I would like to mass mail an html
SF   message to. Is this possible? I don't have any problem mass mailing
SF   text only messages.

You can't use HTML in templates and you need a quick template for a
mass mailing, so I think it can't be done.

SF   At the very least I would like to mass mail a text only message with
SF   attachments.

That's easy, use the %AttachFile= macro in your mass mailing template.

SF   Could I compose an html message and paste it into a template?

Yep, but it won't do you any good.

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marck,

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:03:20 +GMT (20-11-2004, 18:03 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

MDP Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The embedded double quotes are
MDP about not being caught out by names like Pearlstone, Marck or Marck
MDP P Jr.

Do you mean to say that there's a senior version of you wandering
around? :gdr:

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-20 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Roelof,

@20-Nov-2004, 18:43 +0100 (20-Nov 17:43 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The embedded double quotes are
MDP about not being caught out by names like Pearlstone, Marck or Marck
MDP P Jr.

RO Do you mean to say that there's a senior version of you wandering
RO around? :gdr:

LOL - heavens forbid!!! :grin:

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Re: [thebat] Filter hickups

2004-11-20 Thread Lou
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:32:35 +0100, Gerard wrote:
 Hi Bat Users,

 I have some strange non repeatable problems with the filtering of
 emails.

 I get mails that normally filter to a folder being left in my
 inbox. That the filters work is proven by the fact that if I re-
 filter the inbox with the incoming filters they do get sorted to
 their correct folders.

 Yesterday I received a mail from a friend that normally goes to me
 Friends folder, but now ended up in the replies folder.
 This shows that the email is being processed by the filter system
 but hat my friends filter apparently was out for a leak :-)

 Are these known problems and are they being worked on?

Yes, it has always happened here. Especially does it if you are looking at mail 
in the folder it is going to filter to or from.
In light of the charge to upgrade to the new release and the fact they didn't 
fix the bugs in 2.xxx, I am now testing PocoMail and will probably switch to 
it. I have not had the filter problems and it seems to ignore more of the rtf 
and html stuff that the LookOut people send...  TheBat has been a nice ride for 
the last 2 or 3 years though
Still undecided.


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Re: Command line usage

2004-11-20 Thread David Elliott
Hail TBUDL,

Rumour believes that on 20 November 2004, at 14:19:00 +0100 (which was
13:19 where I live) daRkSidE wrote (and possibly edited)

 Try setting up a short cut with 'Run as' and then calling that short cut. I
 am doing much the same on W2K Server.

 Simply calling the short cut produces error 193 (I think it is a not
 valid Win32 application).

Humm works for me.

 I've tried 'Run as', but I don't understand what to do. If I select a
 specific user, it replies that password field cannot be empty (and I set
 no password).

I _never_ have a user with no password.

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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-20 Thread Chris

Milan Gurjanov @ 2004-Nov-19 8:17:39 PM
-=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=- mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 And if anyone knows if this version will be developed in future  is
 Bat 3.xx better than SecureBat?

SecureBat has been (well, will be) incorporated into The Bat! 3.

However, were I you, I would wait until RitLabs actually releases a
version with the functionality before you upgrade (probably in the
Christmas release).

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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-20 Thread John Morse
The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to.
And yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.
~John
- Original Message - 
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Milan on the TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

Milan Gurjanov @ 2004-Nov-19 8:17:39 PM
-=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=- 
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

And if anyone knows if this version will be developed in future  is
Bat 3.xx better than SecureBat?
SecureBat has been (well, will be) incorporated into The Bat! 3.
However, were I you, I would wait until RitLabs actually releases a
version with the functionality before you upgrade (probably in the
Christmas release).
--
Chris
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http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html