Bayesit and build 30?
Hi I just downloaded build 30 from the Ritlabs web site and installed over my copy of build 25 and Bayesit 0.8.1 For some reason the installer removed my copy of Bayesit but didn't replace it. I tried installing a downloaded copy of Bayesit but its only 0.8.0 and when I tried running the combination TB would crash when I was trying to set up the Bayesit plug in. I reverted to build 25 and everything is back to normal. Just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with build 30? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5.25 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit and build 30?
Hello Barry! On Friday, July 08, 2005, 2:36 AM, you wrote: Just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with build 30? It's a known bug in the .msi which wrapped .30. We've been testing RL's fix on TBBETA--as v. 3.51--and when it's certain that no new bug crept in while putting the Bayesit function back, Maxim has said that v. 3.51 will be placed on the public download page. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! beta 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit and build 30?
Hello Barry, Friday, July 8, 2005, 2:36:40 AM, you wrote: B Hi B I just downloaded build 30 from the Ritlabs web site and installed over my B copy of build 25 and Bayesit 0.8.1 B For some reason the installer removed my copy of Bayesit but didn't replace B it. I tried installing a downloaded copy of Bayesit but its only 0.8.0 and B when I tried running the combination TB would crash when I was trying to B set up the Bayesit plug in. B I reverted to build 25 and everything is back to normal. B Just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with build B 30? It wasn't a problem here for any of the versions I tried in that sequence, but that seems to be the way with these sorts of things. Sorry I don't have a better answer for you other than to try either: 1.) running through one or more of the intervening updates and see if there is something that needed to be 'tweeked' between 25 and 30 to make it work right. 2.) try one of the later builds to see if it was just a quirk of the 30 build. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit and build 30?
Hello Barry, B I just downloaded build 30 from the Ritlabs web site and installed over my B copy of build 25 and Bayesit 0.8.1 B For some reason the installer removed my copy of Bayesit but didn't replace B it. I tried installing a downloaded copy of Bayesit but its only 0.8.0 and B when I tried running the combination TB would crash when I was trying to B set up the Bayesit plug in. B I reverted to build 25 and everything is back to normal. B Just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with build B 30? Yes, it is known, unfortunately. Hopefully v3.51 will be out soon. -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP setup
Hello Stuart, SC Could someone advise as to whether I should be using the following SC with IMAP in The Bat. SC Account/Preferences/Mail Management SC Root Folder _ SC For pre-defined folders use these IMAP mailboxes. SC Outbox _ SC Sentmail _ SC Trash_ SC If I use these what are the ramifications? If you assign the Outbox, Sentmail and Trash to a server side mailbox (from the pulldown menu), then these kind of mails (Outbox, etc.) will be stored on the server, and not locally in TB!. The difference is obvious, right? So, then you can see them from everywhere. -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing attachments embedded in message
Hello Jon, JP I have all my attachments stored within the message bodies. My JP message base is becoming really large and I would like to retain JP the text portion of the messages for archival purposes. Is there a JP way to remove attachments by using The Bat? I would rather not use JP an additional program such as Mailbag Assistant if I can manage JP this with The Bat. - Set the account to store the attachments separately - Export all mails from a folder to a Unix mailbox format file - Delete the mails from that folder - Import back the mails from the file to this directory repeat it for all folders, set the mail unread If you are lazy :), then just move the mails to an other folder outside of the account, Set the account to store the attachments separately, and move them back to their original place :) (no need for export, import) -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strip attachments
ON Thursday, July 7, 2005, 10:49:37 PM, you wrote: JP Thanks for the reply Chris. I guess I didn't explain very clearly. See JP my newer post. I am interested in deleting all attachments from a JP rather large message base. Hi Jon, I never tried this but this might work: - make a backup and select to keep the attachments separate from the email - Restore the backup - delete the folder with all the attachments -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I'm not against the blacks, and a lot of the good blacks will attest to that. -- Evan Mecham, then governor of Arizona Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing attachments embedded in message
On Friday, July 8, 2005, 8:29:47 AM, Vili wrote: V If you are lazy :), then just move the mails to an other folder V outside of the account, Set the account to store the attachments V separately, and move them back to their original place :) V (no need for export, import) ___ Thanks Vili! this is exactly what I was hoping for. Jon Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Coalition forces have encountered serious violence in some areas of Iraq. Our military commanders report that this violence is being insticated by three groups. —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Vili, Friday, July 8, 2005, 7:19:47 AM, you wrote: SC Could someone advise as to whether I should be using the following SC with IMAP in The Bat. SC Account/Preferences/Mail Management SC Root Folder _ SC For pre-defined folders use these IMAP mailboxes. SC Outbox _ SC Sentmail _ SC Trash_ SC If I use these what are the ramifications? V If you assign the Outbox, Sentmail and Trash to a server side mailbox V (from the pulldown menu) Where is this pull down menu? V , then these kind of mails (Outbox, etc.) will be stored on the V server, and not locally in TB!. I often see Allie talking about problems using a server side Outbox. I assume this is not a problem for Sentmail and Trash. V The difference is obvious, right? So, then you can see them from V everywhere. Yes I see that it would be useful, however, I don't think the Trash part is working correctly. It does not seem to delete as expected. The mail only seems to get marked for deletion and not deleted unless you specifically compress the folder. I think this is one of Tony's complaints. Also any insight on what the root folder is? -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reprogram the accountpanes tab Unread
Hello wonderful Marck D Pearlstone, den 6 juli 2005, 16:35:12, du skrev: MDP Dear Qe3ee, MDP @6-Jul-2005, 16:23 +0200 (06-Jul 15:23 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Q Varm Summer Greatings all ye The Batered users. Q I have indeed tried to find an answer to this question but gone dev /null on Q this. Q Q: Is there a way to reprogram the e-mailaccounts viewpane namely the tab Q called Unread and Virtual Q WhatI would like to do is to highlight mails replied by ME in one Q of those tabs. Q I have allready three more tabs and the screen is to narrow. Q -Could it be shanged? MDP Create a virtual folder called Replies and specify the source as all MDP folders and filter by From (you) and Subject (contains Re:). I got that virtual folder now however I might not get it all the way with the filters. Maybe the vocabulary has changed between the bat 2.12 and v3.5? I have Sender, Receiver and so forth in the tab Filter in the Virtual folder. I have laborated with various values from the kludges. Example: From: yourname [EMAIL PROTECTED] only filters the threads that i have replied my self - i.e. it only filters threads someoneelse started. How do I mark mails that I want to watch to be replied. If I right click the sent mail and choses Watch replies in... nothing happens. How may I use the filtering capacity under the Account - Sorting/Options filters - Replied Messages? Thankyou for getting me THIS far! -- greetings from a warm and sunny holiday sweden, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E fructu arbor cognoscitur if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
I highlight part of a received email, press SHIFT 'reply' and a message edit window pops up containing the highlighted portion only. = very good. I do the same but 'reply all' and I ge the entire original message... = not very good. Why the difference? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.5.25 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Hello Admin! On Friday, July 08, 2005, 1:41 PM, you wrote: do the same but 'reply all' and I ge the entire original message... = not very good. Why the difference? I confirm your observation and offer my opinion that it is a bug, or at least an overlook in the development team's writing of TB!'s code. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP setup
On Friday, July 08, 2005 at 8:25:09 AM [GMT -0500], Stuart Cuddy wrote: V If you assign the Outbox, Sentmail and Trash to a server side mailbox V (from the pulldown menu) Where is this pull down menu? Here: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/menu.png I often see Allie talking about problems using a server side Outbox. I assume this is not a problem for Sentmail and Trash. No. Those others work fine server side. Yes I see that it would be useful, however, I don't think the Trash part is working correctly. It does not seem to delete as expected. The mail only seems to get marked for deletion and not deleted unless you specifically compress the folder. I think this is one of Tony's complaints. Also any insight on what the root folder is? I'm not sure what that is. The only thing I know is that you can leave the setting unchanged, i.e., blank. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- I used to be schizophrenic, but we're all right now. Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
On Friday, July 8, 2005, 1:57:17 PM, Mary Bull wrote: do the same but 'reply all' and I ge the entire original message... = not very good. Why the difference? I confirm your observation and offer my opinion that it is a bug, or at least an overlook in the development team's writing of TB!'s code. It took years of campaigning to get any reply to all with selected text implemented, so it's possible there is a resistance or a perception that it isn't very important. I would like to see it but am grateful that there is at least one way to reply to all with selected text. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Hello Dwight! On Friday, July 08, 2005, 2:53 PM, you wrote: do the same but 'reply all' and I ge the entire original message... = not very good. Why the difference? I confirm your observation and offer my opinion that it is a bug, or at least an overlook in the development team's writing of TB!'s code. It took years of campaigning to get any reply to all with selected text implemented, so it's possible there is a resistance or a perception that it isn't very important. I would like to see it but am grateful that there is at least one way to reply to all with selected text. Oh, Amen!! Me too! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin typed on: Friday, July 08, 2005 at 14:40:51 GMT -0500 Where is this pull down menu? AM Here: AM http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/menu.png Thanks, that is what I was doing, just wasn't sure if it was right. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else, on 08-Jul-2005 at 21:53 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: It took years of campaigning to get any reply to all with selected text implemented, so it's possible there is a resistance or a perception that it isn't very important. I would like to see it but am grateful that there is at least one way to reply to all with selected text. Lets file a wishlist entry. What I'd like to see would be the way it works e.g. in M2 (Opera's Mailer) - *if* some text in the original message is selected and you use *any* reply function (single or to all), only the selected text is quoted. If *no* text is selected, use all text as quotation. IMVHO this would be the most natural way to have this in a natural email system. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Spirit departure was very common around 1910, when many `spirits' were reported wandering around India, searching for the American Consulate. -- Woody Allen Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Hello Alexander, Friday, July 8, 2005, 3:31:59 PM, you wrote: Lets file a wishlist entry. What I'd like to see would be the way it works e.g. in M2 (Opera's Mailer) - *if* some text in the original message is selected and you use *any* reply function (single or to all), only the selected text is quoted. If *no* text is selected, use all text as quotation. IMVHO this would be the most natural way to have this in a natural email system. This would have my support. (BTW, the smiley was selected when Replying Using Selected Text but does not appear here.) :( -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Hello Stuart! On Friday, July 08, 2005, 4:15 PM, you wrote: This would have my support. (BTW, the smiley was selected when Replying Using Selected Text but does not appear here.) :( My support, too. (And you have run into the elusive Smiley bug that I first put a BT report about in September, 2003 or so; but it happens so randomly that the developers could not find the cause or fix it, and so it hangs around to haunt us. :woe: ) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
am grateful that there is at least one way to reply to all with selected text. ? and that is? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.5.25 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reprogram the accountpanes tab Unread
Dear Qe3ee, @8-Jul-2005, 18:11 +0200 (08-Jul 17:11 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Q What I would like to do is to highlight mails replied by ME in Q one of those tabs. MDP Create a virtual folder called Replies and specify the source MDP as all folders and filter by From (you) and Subject MDP (contains Re:). Q Maybe the vocabulary has changed between the bat 2.12 and v3.5? I Q have Sender, Receiver and so forth in the tab Filter in the Q Virtual folder. The filtering in v3 is a whole lot more comprehensive. You may not be able to get what you need out of v2. Only another v2 user can tell you that. ... snip Q How do I mark mails that I want to watch to be replied. If I right click the Q sent mail and choses Watch replies in... nothing happens. Q How may I use the filtering capacity under the Q Account - Sorting/Options filters - Replied Messages? No idea ... I've never used it. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp3EbECA0w2C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spacebar Navigation and replying
I have the following settings: * SmartSpace navigation is turned on * Messages are marked as read when I SmartSpace navigate off of them * Otherwise, messages are only marked as read when I open the message in another window It seems to me that using these settings, a message should also be marked as read when I reply to it (maybe even forward it [not when I redirect it, though...]). Any way to do this? If not, any thought? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. It's hard to write foolproof software because there are so many fools, and they are very inventive. pgpw87z1zrKmi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't?
Alexander S. Kunz @ 2005-Jul-8 4:31:59 PM Shift Reply works, Shift Reply All doesn't? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lets file a wishlist entry. What I'd like to see would be the way it works e.g. in M2 (Opera's Mailer) - *if* some text in the original message is selected and you use *any* reply function (single or to all), only the selected text is quoted. If *no* text is selected, use all text as quotation. And not just using the keyboard. The toolbar buttons should function the same way. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Sign on a repair shop door: WE CAN REPAIR ANYTHING. (PLEASE KNOCK HARD ON THE DOOR -- THE BELL DOESN'T WORK) pgpvyVevw62Wc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strip attachments
Hello Gerard, G ON Thursday, July 7, 2005, 10:49:37 PM, you wrote: JP Thanks for the reply Chris. I guess I didn't explain very clearly. See JP my newer post. I am interested in deleting all attachments from a JP rather large message base. G I never tried this but this might work: :)) It does not. Because: G - make a backup and select to keep the attachments separate from the email G - Restore the backup Restoring backup restores also the info that attachments is stored internally (overwrite the change to store separately that you did after the backup). Try it :) -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Allie (and original questioner), I often see Allie talking about problems using a server side Outbox. I assume this is not a problem for Sentmail and Trash. AM No. Those others work fine server side. Could you write me in private, Allie, what is the problem with the Outbox?It seems, that we will solve the counter/auto connect/disconnect problem soon (see my todays mail to TBBETA), so then I will check this Outbox problem out in details. Yes I see that it would be useful, however, I don't think the Trash part is working correctly. It does not seem to delete as expected. The mail only seems to get marked for deletion and not deleted unless you specifically compress the folder. I think this is one of Tony's complaints. It compress just fine if you have a continuous connection (dont use Auto disconnect after x time (Properties, Mail management) yet, we are working to fix that part, I think we are pretty close) and set Compress when changing folders at Account, Properties, IMAP fine tune. Also, when Managing folders (right click on the account name) set the Synchronization ON for all or your subscribed folders (I would suggest to set Subscribe and Synchronize for your IMAP server side Inbox, Outbox, Sent, Trash folders). This way for me, compressing seems to work fine. Mulberry (Tony's favorite) delete the mail immediately, that is why TB! is different for Tony... -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
