Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Dwight A Corrin wrote: On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: I've brought that up in the past, and it sounded like that was by design, despite the fact that one might not want or need to put anything into the To: field (say, for instance, it's filled in already). -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Now comes the bit that always used to work: For what it's worth, this key bit of information was not present in earlier messages. If it is literally the case that it used to work, and then you changed nothing and now it doesn't work, well, that's not good. Since this case is highly unlikely, it might be worth pondering what you have changed since it worked. Did you upgrade to a newer version of TB? Did you upgrade anything else? -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... Ok, none of your previous messages have done this. Try a template without a line that clears the %From first; such a line is unnecessary as you can't have a message from more than one address anyway. -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder (not account) macros not working
Roelof Otten wrote: But the from identity is always managed by the folder identity, works fine on all of the TB list for instance. I have an account-wide reply template that has quite a bit of macro code to figure out what email address should be stuffed into my From field. Once I got the syntax of the %If macro right (mostly due to not having any else clause), I've never had a problem with it. %From=Tom Plunket its_like_magic I do have a couple of per-folder reply macros, but the emails coming into those folders would get the same generated From: address as the macro creates, so I don't actually know what's happening under the hood. However, now that I've figured out how to do this, I have no need for per-folder identities since I can always respond either with the email address that received the mail, or with something else that I generate as appropriate... -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Now comes the bit that always used to work: For what it's worth, this key bit of information was not present in earlier messages. If it is literally the case that it used to work, and then you changed nothing and now it doesn't work, well, that's not good. Since this case is highly unlikely, it might be worth pondering what you have changed since it worked. Did you upgrade to a newer version of TB? Did you upgrade anything else? I cannot be sufficiently precise on that - things change all the time here. I have recently upgraded to 3.62.14 but it could have started not working before that. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... Ok, none of your previous messages have done this. Try a template without a line that clears the %From first; such a line is unnecessary as you can't have a message from more than one address anyway. Been there, done that, no diff -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder (not account) macros not working
Roelof Otten wrote: But the from identity is always managed by the folder identity, works fine on all of the TB list for instance. I have an account-wide reply template that has quite a bit of macro code to figure out what email address should be stuffed into my From field. Yes but does it work on common folders? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vestibule ( I came, I saw, I hid in the closet ) The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDTMpiH6B0j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. Yes I was thinking that might be it. Do I need to remove regsitry keys? If yes - where can I find a guide to which ones they are? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. OK - stripped everything out - uninstall, deleted registry key, moved message storage folder, deleted Program files folder (after uninstall). Re-installed. Same problem! So evidently I have some setting somewhere, some filter somewhere, somethign somewhere that is over-riding the common folder templates. The question is: where to start looking? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:19:41 +GMT (18-11-2005, 11:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Do I need to remove regsitry keys? If yes - where can I find a MG guide to which ones they are? When you're running TB from an Windows admin account, TB will strip the registry during the uninstall. When you're running TB from a user account (which you can't use for uninstalling) you need to strip it yourself, everything in the tree: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! -- Groetjes, Roelof May we kiss those we please, and please those we kiss. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpn482NbYwE4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 4:56:24 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... Not long winded, just more complete and explicit. I created a common folder and populated it with some messages. Gave the folder an indentity. Created a reply to one of the messages, which used the reply template from the proper account. I readdressed the reply to one of my accounts, and sent it. It showed up in the sent folder of a different account than the identity account, but when I got it back it had all the right headers. It was labeled as from the chosen account, and had the correct reply to address. I think that means that I was unable to recreate the problem you described, and I think what I tried parallels what you are trying to do? (I did all this in POP, not in IMAP) -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 4:56:24 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... Not long winded, just more complete and explicit. I created a common folder and populated it with some messages. Gave the folder an indentity. Created a reply to one of the messages, which used the reply template from the proper account. I readdressed the reply to one of my accounts, and sent it. It showed up in the sent folder of a different account than the identity account, but when I got it back it had all the right headers. It was labeled as from the chosen account, and had the correct reply to address. I think that means that I was unable to recreate the problem you described, and I think what I tried parallels what you are trying to do? (I did all this in POP, not in IMAP) So - just to double-check: the email was in a COMMON FOLDER which had its own identity? you created a reply to it? the created email acquired (before sending) the FROM NAME, FROM ADDRESS, REPLYTO ADDRESS as set in that COMMON FOLDER's identity? Any signature set for that COMMON FOLDER template was acquired by the created reply before sending)? Do you have an account set as the default for mailto URLs? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Friday, November 18, 2005, 6:41:45 AM, Marten Gallagher wrote: So - just to double-check: the email was in a COMMON FOLDER which had its own identity? yes you created a reply to it? yes the created email acquired (before sending) the FROM NAME, FROM ADDRESS, REPLYTO ADDRESS as set in that COMMON FOLDER's identity? yes Any signature set for that COMMON FOLDER template was acquired by the created reply before sending)? yes Do you have an account set as the default for mailto URLs? yes. A different one than I thought, and the one through which the message was actually sent. So worked even more like it should have than I thought. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Friday, November 18, 2005, 6:41:45 AM, Marten Gallagher wrote: yes. A different one than I thought, and the one through which the message was actually sent. So worked even more like it should have than I thought. Hmmm... it is now more mysterious - or perhaps if someine knows what theey're doing - less mysterious: A new message from a common folder fails to acquire the idientity as set and fails to use the template as set. A reply or a forward of a message in the same common folder DOES acquire the identity and the template! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Dear list, I've always used TB! as a sort of backup Emailer as I never quite took to it. However, I used it for most of my Email list traffic and would be happy to continue to do so. However, my computer hard disc crashed, I have a backup of everything so I reinstalled TB! 2.04.7 and gave it my registration codes and copied my old folder structure in c:\program files\The Bat! across ... no go. Is there a way to get the old accounts and folders back again? Hope so! TIA, Chris Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Chris, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:58:10 + GMT (18/11/2005, 19:58 +0700 GMT), Chris Evans wrote: CE However, my computer hard disc crashed, I have a backup of CE everything so I reinstalled TB! 2.04.7 and gave it my registration CE codes and copied my old folder structure in c:\program files\The CE Bat! across ... no go. How did you do the backup - with the internal utility or manually? CE Is there a way to get the old accounts and folders back again? Hope so! Yes, there is. We'll walk you through it. -- Cheers, Thomas. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Chris, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:58:10 + GMT (18/11/2005, 19:58 +0700 GMT), Chris Evans wrote: CE However, my computer hard disc crashed, I have a backup of CE everything so I reinstalled TB! 2.04.7 and gave it my registration CE codes and copied my old folder structure in c:\program files\The CE Bat! across ... no go. How did you do the backup - with the internal utility or manually? manual backup of the entire directory trees of the machine CE Is there a way to get the old accounts and folders back again? Hope so! Yes, there is. We'll walk you through it. Wonderful. Standing by! Thanks, Chris -- Chris Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consultant Psychiatrist in Psychotherapy, Rampton Hospital; Research Programmes Director, Nottinghamshire NHS Trust, Hon. Professor of Psychotherapy, Nottingham University, Hon. SL Institute of Psychiatry *** My views are my own and not representative of those institutions *** Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Chris, Is there a way to get the old accounts and folders back again? Hope so! Yes, create _new_ accounts with the same names you previously had (i.e. account folder names). TB will find the account folder and will automatically fill in the 'new' account settings with the ones you previously had. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Chris, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:05:29 + GMT (18/11/2005, 22:05 +0700 GMT), Chris Evans wrote: How did you do the backup - with the internal utility or manually? CE manual backup of the entire directory trees of the machine How about the registry key? Yes, there is. We'll walk you through it. CE Wonderful. Standing by! MAU already gave a valuable tip. If you didn't backup the registry key, this is your next step. But be aware that TB will create new messages.tbb files when you create these accounts, and you need to overwrite them with you backupped ones. After creating the accounts that is, and while TB is closed. The same applies to filters and quick templates. -- Cheers, Thomas. Mit einem Kostuemball kann man keine Tore schiessen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Chris, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:05:29 + GMT (18/11/2005, 22:05 +0700 GMT), Chris Evans wrote: How did you do the backup - with the internal utility or manually? CE manual backup of the entire directory trees of the machine How about the registry key? I guess I can find the registry in the copy of c:\ but otherwise the registry keys are gone and that's the problem with a few programs though often reinstalling and then copying over the diretories suffices to restore things! Yes, there is. We'll walk you through it. CE Wonderful. Standing by! MAU already gave a valuable tip. If you didn't backup the registry key, this is your next step. But be aware that TB will create new messages.tbb files when you create these accounts, and you need to overwrite them with you backupped ones. After creating the accounts that is, and while TB is closed. OK. The other little quirk that was baffling me is that the reinstalled TB! seems to have all that in C:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\batmail but the old one had it in c:\program files\the bat!\MAIL\ That's got the accounts recreated I can close and recreate the the messages.tbb files by copying. The same applies to filters and quick templates. What does? Do you mean that this will recreate them? I had filters I liked but no templates that I'll miss. Big problem I still can't see way through is that I had a folder lists with a series of subfolders for each of my various lists and another called Universal inbox into which my filters shunted most things picked up for most the the accounts. I can't seem to get TB! to see those. Aha, yes I can, laborious but it works: create the two root common folders in TB! Go into common folder lists and use ins key to insert subfolders, close TB! and copy old MESSAGES.TBB and MESSAGES.TBI files into right places and heh presto! OK. Before I finally risk picking up some Email, is there anything else I should probably do before that?! Thanks both, C -- Chris Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consultant Psychiatrist in Psychotherapy, Rampton Hospital; Research Programmes Director, Nottinghamshire NHS Trust, Hon. Professor of Psychotherapy, Nottingham University, Hon. SL Institute of Psychiatry *** My views are my own and not representative of those institutions *** Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Thomas, But be aware that TB will create new messages.tbb files when you create these accounts, and you need to overwrite them with you backupped ones. Not if he does what I have told him. The 'new' account uses the folder structure and tbb files he has on disk. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Thomas, Sorry, forgot to comment on this. The same applies to filters and quick templates. Again, this is not necessary if he has all the account and folder structure on disk. When creating 'new' accounts with existing names, TB recognised and uses the whole folder structure for the account and all the settings, including filters, QTs, etc. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello Chris, OK. Before I finally risk picking up some Email, is there anything else I should probably do before that?! See my replies to Thomas. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Tom Plunket everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 09:22 you (Tom Plunket) wrote: On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: I've brought that up in the past, and it sounded like that was by design, despite the fact that one might not want or need to put anything into the To: field (say, for instance, it's filled in already). I don't know if its really necessary to add another check if the TO field is not yet empty and jump to the subject or maybe mail body then... you may just as well add another recipient, or a CC recipient... or... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the next morning you will have a flat tire. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 00:01 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: The ACCOUNT details and SUGNATURE that are used for all emails going out - whatever templates and identotied are set in COMMON FOLDERS - is the details and signatures for the ACCOUNT which is currently set as the DEFAULT for mailto URLs - or if no account is set as the default, then it is the account that was last checked as the default even though it may be no longer. This is a bug. The folder template of a common folder is simply not applied when the common folder is selected and I press CTRL+N, and thats wrong. And it doesn't use the identity that is configured in the folder properties either. The identity is only used for replies, not for new messages. Please add your confirmations to this bugtracker entry I just created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The Unspeakable Law: As soon as you mention something; if it is good, it goes away. if it is bad, it happens. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 00:01 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: The ACCOUNT details and SUGNATURE that are used for all emails going out - whatever templates and identotied are set in COMMON FOLDERS - is the details and signatures for the ACCOUNT which is currently set as the DEFAULT for mailto URLs - or if no account is set as the default, then it is the account that was last checked as the default even though it may be no longer. This is a bug. The folder template of a common folder is simply not applied when the common folder is selected and I press CTRL+N, and thats wrong. And it doesn't use the identity that is configured in the folder properties either. The identity is only used for replies, not for new messages. Please add your confirmations to this bugtracker entry I just created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. This didn't used to happen - anyone know which version/revision introduced this bug? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. It was not in vain. You found a bug, that happens. TB goes thru heavy changes underneath the surface currently. This didn't used to happen - anyone know which version/revision introduced this bug? I tried with 3.0.2.10 (the last 3.0 beta) and it works there. So it should work in 3.0.1.33 (the last 3.0 stable). I don't have anything in between these and the current 3.62.14 stable here to test it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Schnitzl'd In The Negev (4:17) by Shpongle from the 1995 album 'Nothing Lasts' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is the role of all those directories that are getting created .. in the Voyager ..??
Hallo Narayana, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:44:08 +0530GMT (18-11-2005, 18:14 +0100, where I live), you wrote: N Can someone tell me as to what is the role of all those directories N getting created with *.EBB *.EBI files inside them. I have only 4 N e-mail id's configured. N Yet I seem to have a looot of directories with all these files with N funny names as directories. Not really a beta issue. But they're your folders. You mention four id's, so I guess you mean you've got four accounts configured. Per default every account has at least six folders (inbox, inbox known, outbox, sent mail, trash and junk) so four accounts gives you 24 folders, each with their own directory with a messages.ebb/.ebi pair (.tbb and .tbi for a non encrypted message base) Part of TB's encryption system is that they've got odd names, where a plain message base has names corresponding with the actual name as shown by TB. -- Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpe98fOF7jQG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. It was not in vain. You found a bug, that happens. TB goes thru heavy changes underneath the surface currently. Well I wish had faith that it will be corrected quickly. DO you think it might be? Otherwise I am going to have change all my filters and set up a cut and paste system to put the correct details in 50% of the emails I send! That will tak a few hours to get right. What do you think the chances of this being corrected within a week, say? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder (not account) macros not working
Hallo Marten, In that case I'm lost. Folder templates work fine over here. But the from identity is always managed by the folder identity, works fine on all of the TB list for instance. Could you please double check? Does a common folder identity and template work for a NEW message created when the common folder is highlighted? According Alexander Kunz it is confirmed and he/we have created a bug report. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:41 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: What do you think the chances of this being corrected within a week, say? Sorry, I really don't know. My crystal ball is defective. :-) Before going thru the hassle of changing your setup a lot, you can revert to 3.0.1.33 where the functions works (maybe someone else has a more recent version to check if it worked it the 3.5.x series). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Mentalism (2:54) by Shpongle from the 1995 album 'Nothing Lasts' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder (not account) macros not working
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:42:57 +GMT (18-11-2005, 19:42 +0100, where I live), you wrote: In that case I'm lost. Folder templates work fine over here. But the from identity is always managed by the folder identity, works fine on all of the TB list for instance. MG Could you please double check? MG Does a common folder identity and template work for a NEW message MG created when the common folder is highlighted? I can double check, but as I don't have any common folders I won't find your bug. (Common folders don't make much sense when you've got just one account.) -- Groetjes, Roelof there are three things that come next, uh four... The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp3swq8P1RzE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hallo Alexander, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:45:37 +0100GMT (18-11-2005, 19:45 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ASK Before going thru the hassle of changing your setup a lot, you can revert ASK to 3.0.1.33 where the functions works (maybe someone else has a more recent ASK version to check if it worked it the 3.5.x series). Okay, I created a common folder and performed some tests (only folder identity in a new message) 3.0.2.10 was fine 3.51.5 was fine 3.60.07 was fine I had no other versions ready to use and I almost know for sure that 3.60.07 was a public release and no beta. I've still got the .msi available over here and there must have been a reason that I still have the executable in my TB program directory, so I guess it was stable (or followed by something real buggy in the beta series g). -- Groetjes, Roelof Facts are stubborn things. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgptnlopPmkZn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
QT bug
1. Create a new QT 2. Click the Macros button 3. Select Cookie from file... Nothing happens. This works in 3.51.10. Any confirmations? I am posting in two places because I am really not sure where this belongs. Jon Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Many years ago this was a thriving, happy planet - people, cities shops, a normal world. Except that on the high streets of these cities there were slightly more shoe shops than one might have thought necessary. And slowly, insidiously, the numbers of these shoe shops were increasing. It's a well known economic phenomenon but tragic to see it in operation, for the more shoe shops there were, the more shoes they had to make and the worse and more unwearable they became. And the worse they were to wear, the more people had to buy to keep themselves shod, and the more the shops proliferated, until the whole economy of the place passed what I believe is termed the Shoe Event Horizon, and it became no longer economically possible to build anything other than shoe shops. Result - collapse, ruin and famine. Most of the population died out. Those few who had the right kind of genetic instability mutated into birds - you've seen one of them - who cursed their feet, cursed the ground, and vowed that none should walk on it again. Unhappy lot. Come, I must take you to the Vortex. - The Restaurant at the End of the Universe Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Hello MAU, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:54:51 +0100 GMT (18/11/2005, 23:54 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Again, this is not necessary if he has all the account and folder M structure on disk. When creating 'new' accounts with existing names, TB M recognised and uses the whole folder structure for the account and all M the settings, including filters, QTs, etc. OK, I seem to remember that TB would not check whether these files already exist, but only create new (empty) ones. I didn't try now, I may be mistaken. @Chris: Why not leave the files as MAU suggests but have another backup handy. Let us know whether the files were overwritten. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Inseln des Mittelmeeres sind alle groesser oder kleiner als Sizilien. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is the role of all those directories that are getting created .. in the Voyager ..??
Hello Roelof Otten, on Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:04:35 +0100 (2005-11-18 19:04:35 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [RO] wrote (at least in part): RO Not really a beta issue. RO But they're your folders. You mention four id's, so I guess you mean RO you've got four accounts configured. Per default every account has at RO least six folders (inbox, inbox known, outbox, sent mail, trash and RO junk) so four accounts gives you 24 folders, each with their own RO directory with a messages.ebb/.ebi pair (.tbb and .tbi for a non RO encrypted message base) Voyager doesn't offer you a choice between un-encrypted or encrypted msg bases, in my experience as a TB-Home user and a Voyager UNREGISTERED user. -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand - - - Using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V3.62.13 (Beta) (Home) An anti-spam filter which insists to be : Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Multiple POP3, one gmail.com, one fastmail.fm IMAP Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcut tabs?
Is there a way to set up a keyboard shortcut for the All and Unread Message Tabs? Ditto folder tabs? How about setting the Unread tabs as the startup defaults? Thanks! -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reinstalled v2.04.7, lost all my accounts and folders
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello MAU, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:54:51 +0100 GMT (18/11/2005, 23:54 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Again, this is not necessary if he has all the account and folder M structure on disk. When creating 'new' accounts with existing names, TB M recognised and uses the whole folder structure for the account and all M the settings, including filters, QTs, etc. OK, I seem to remember that TB would not check whether these files already exist, but only create new (empty) ones. I didn't try now, I may be mistaken. @Chris: Why not leave the files as MAU suggests but have another backup handy. Let us know whether the files were overwritten. They weren't. And everything seems back fine now. Cheers, C -- Chris Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consultant Psychiatrist in Psychotherapy, Rampton Hospital; Research Programmes Director, Nottinghamshire NHS Trust, Hon. Professor of Psychotherapy, Nottingham University, Hon. SL Institute of Psychiatry *** My views are my own and not representative of those institutions *** Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
