Re[2]: Getting no help from support...
V The others (how can you use Outlook and Bat) are not TB! related. V Look for it on the web. I correct myself. This is a TBUDL issue, just I was pissed off from the laziness of the original sender...However, the questions were so general, I think, a local, real computer help is needed for him... V Sorry Bob, but instead of asking simple questions, please work a V little on it before you send a question... We should not WORK INSTEAD V of you... We can help on people who try to help themselves first :(( It still stands. -- Vili Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB won't close after connection centre hangs
I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the template funstionality that is broken from then on. However, I now have the problem that comes with that version: The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in the Task Manager. Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or did it just 'go away' with the next version? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Auto forwarding
Hello one and all, I read somewhere (perhaps here, perhaps KOMANDO.COM) that the Federal Government is requesting that all received spam messages be forwarded to the Govt. Spam Office, [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are led to believe that the Government is attempting to do something about spam. I use K9 as my spam filter and have a folder called SPAM which is where K9 deposits messages it marks as spam. When my brain is occasionally fully functioning I remember to select all messages in that folder and forward them to the Govt. Spam Office. Usually, I forget to do this and absentmindedly delete all the spam messages after review. It occurs to me that the all-powerful TB! can probably automate this procedure. I would like TB! to take all messages placed in the SPAM folder by K9 to generate a forwarded message (or messages) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and place the resulting message(s) in my OUTBOX. There they (it) would remain until the next send/fetch command. I'm not sure if a separate message for each spam message be generated or if a single message containing all the spam messages be generated. It probably doesn't make any difference to the Government. I defer to the superior intelligence of my fellow list members to suggest a way to do this. May all enjoy a Happy Thanksgiving! -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 2.11.02 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
Hello all, Happy Thanksgiving. I have been using TB foreight years or so. Increasingly commonly, in the process of retrieving messages, TB will hang on one message (downloading 18/34 headers) and abort. Again and again it will not get past that message (which is usually spam, but then, 95% of my email is spam). The only solutions are 1) to use Outlook or, now, Thunderbird to download the email or 2) to use my email ISP provider's webmail and attempt manually to delete the spam. This is slow and painful and anyway it's hard to find the offending email, since I'm not sure of the order of email in webmail. Has anyone had this problem? What could be happening? Happens in more than one account, one with no filters, as well as the one with many filters (all inactivated now). Thanks in advance Jack Case Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Getting no help from support...
I read it from start to finish several times and it is vagueat best...no details...and I resent the fact of your personal attack. You know nothing about me...You don't know why I am not working and recieveing disabilaty, nor the fact that it has something to do with concentration and following directions and short term memory lossI know what every thing listed is and have set it up dozen of times and in dozens of configurations yet it still will not connect to the bat server. -- Bob F! Dazed and confusedliterally.. ask my several Dr.'s Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Getting no help from support...
Oppology accepted...I am creating a huge list of questions and from that you can see that I have tried hard to set this program up -- Bob F! Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting no help from support...
Hello Vili everyone else, on 24-Nov-2005 at 04:42 you (Vili) wrote: What kind of computer engineer does not know what is POP and SMTP? A computer hardware engineer? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I have just got scent of some fossil bones of a mammoth; what they may be I do not know, but if gold will get them, they shall be mine. -- Charles Darwin Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Getting no help from support...)
Hello Bob and Melissa everyone else, on 24-Nov-2005 at 01:18 you (Bob and Melissa) wrote: Bob Figuerido MCP MCP as in Microsoft Certified Professional? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 8:37:28 AM, John P. Case, M.D. wrote: TB will hang on one message (downloading 18/34 headers) and abort try using the dispatcher. the problem i used to have was a message with a virus which would never get downloaded and would show up every check. you can find it in the dispatcher and delete it there. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Getting no help from support...
Hello Group, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 2:49:21 PM, Bob wrote: I know what every thing listed is and have set it up dozen of times and in dozens of configurations yet it still will not connect to the bat server. I wonder if the issue is a lack of understanding here? TheBat! does not connect to 'the bat server' - it should be set up to connect to your ISP or whoever provides your email service. TheBat! is just a program for collecting and reading email, just like Outlook Express. The settings you need are those that you entered into Outlook Express. However, as has been pointed out, if you and your partner share one email account then you need to decide which email program to use, if you want to use different programs then you need separate email accounts (unless you really want to go through the pain barrier!). -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
Hello Group, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 5:22:31 PM, Dwight wrote: On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 8:37:28 AM, John P. Case, M.D. wrote: TB will hang on one message (downloading 18/34 headers) and abort try using the dispatcher. the problem i used to have was a message with a virus which would never get downloaded and would show up every check. you can find it in the dispatcher and delete it there. I had the same problem some time ago, and used your suggested solution. However, TheBat! really ought to be able to handle issues like this, other email clients do. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 24-Nov-2005 at 18:49 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: try using the dispatcher. the problem i used to have was a message with a virus which would never get downloaded and would show up every check. you can find it in the dispatcher and delete it there. I had the same problem some time ago, and used your suggested solution. However, TheBat! really ought to be able to handle issues like this, other email clients do. I never had a hanging download with TB. I get only very few virus mails, but I do believe that these hangs have nothing to do with TB, but with a local virus scanner. You must *exclude* TBs temporary directory (where the mails are initially downloaded to before they get imported to your messagebase) from your on-access virus scanner, or else TB can not put the temporary message to the directory (if the virus scanner blocks it during the write operation), or TB can't import it to its messagebase (if the virus scanner blocks it during the read operation). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -- Sherlock Holmes, in the Sign of the Four Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
Hello Group, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 6:04:46 PM, Alexander wrote: You must *exclude* TBs temporary directory (where the mails are initially downloaded to before they get imported to your messagebase) from your on-access virus scanner, or else TB can not put the temporary message to the directory (if the virus scanner blocks it during the write operation), or TB can't import it to its messagebase (if the virus scanner blocks it during the read operation). Hi Alexander :-) That's interesting, I use F-Prot and it does monitor the temp folder - it often pops up with alerts - but it doesn't stop the messages being down-loaded. I think the one I had a problem with may have had a mal-formed header or similar. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exiting TB by killing through task manager
If I keep having to exit TB by CTRL-ALT-DEL Task Manager Services 'Kill' And re-starting to overcome the connection center hanging, am I likely to do any damage? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Killing TB as a PROCESS not SERVICE
Re: Correction - I kill TB as a PROCESS -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 12:04:46 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: You must *exclude* TBs temporary directory (where the mails are initially downloaded to before they get imported to your messagebase) from your on-access virus scanner, or else TB can not put the temporary message to the directory (if the virus scanner blocks it during the write operation), or TB can't import it to its messagebase (if the virus scanner blocks it during the read operation). What is the point of a virus checker if you aren't going to check incoming mail for viruses? I don't want to import any messages with viruses into my message base. Then I have a whole infected mailbox, instead of eliminating an infected e-mail. May need to make some adjustments on how antivirus software is working, but to turn it off doesn't seem to be the logical modification to me. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exiting TB by killing through task manager
Hallo Marten, On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:12:58 +GMT (24-11-2005, 22:12 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG If I keep having to exit TB by CTRL-ALT-DEL Task Manager Services 'Kill' MG And re-starting to overcome the connection center hanging, am I likely to do any damage? No, not likely. Though I won't say that it's impossible. Just don't do it while you think that TB is doing something besides waiting for a hung connection. -- Groetjes, Roelof Nobody notices when things go right, I'm always noticed. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpoP2RyDnFYU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
Hallo Dwight, On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:12:01 -0600GMT (24-11-2005, 23:12 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DAC What is the point of a virus checker if you aren't going to check DAC incoming mail for viruses? What's the use of having a mail client that's invulnerable to viruses when you're going to check your mail anyhow. SCNR There's no problem with scanning your incoming mail with a virus scanner, but there's only a problem in doing so with a virus scanner that blocks the file in such a way that TB thinks that the message didn't get downloaded properly, because in that case it'll try and try again. You can compare that behaviour with you standing on a chair trying to screw in a light bulb and me kicking the chair from under your feet, saying: 'Sorry, I was afraid you would electrocute yourself.' Some AV products monitor the POP3 connection, some AV products recognize TB and install a plug-in and some just kick the chair from under its feet. As a little flying mammal TB lands on its feet and tries again in the latter case. -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: the Information Frontage Road. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpxMnftTpzDv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
