Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Ted,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 6:45:30 AM, you wrote:

 Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV?
 I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by
 NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem
 to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan).

Same here, and I hadn't noticed it before, but as you say some emails
are tagged by NOD32 and others aren't.

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ted,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:45:30 +1100GMT (20-1-2006, 7:45 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TD Btw, is there a security issue of reading emails in HTML when using
TD TB.

No. TB doesn't execute any included scripts nor does it display any
files that aren't sent along with the message as it's unable to let the
viewer connect to non included elements.

TD I know some users are plaintext purists but I am just wondering
TD about the security issue in this respect? Any info is greatly
TD appreciated

Me being such a purist like you mentioned above also means that it
would really bother me to have my virus scanner include signatures to
incoming mail (and to outgoing mails they don't make any sense at all)
that I'm not knowledgeable at all about what could cause a feature
like that to function or not. (Apart from that I don't use Nod32)

But I guess they could be right on the Nod32 forum. I'd check what
those non-tagged messages have in common:
sender/mailer/attachments/html/originating ISP/whatever

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Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bob,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:23:24 +1000GMT (20-1-2006, 7:23 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

BM I figure that there must be some sort of cache that The Bat! is
BM referring to and that it thinks that there is still mail to retrieve.

Close TB and delete the account.m_r and account.m_d files matching
with the problem account. When you're using OTFE the extensions are
.emr and .emd
I'm not sure whether this solves the problem so I'd appreciate some
feedback, but unless you keep mail on the server (and you deleted
everything) you don't really need them. 

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ted Dane  everyone else,

on 20-Jan-2006 at 07:45 you (Ted Dane) wrote:

 Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV?
 I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by
 NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem
 to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan).

Could it be that these messages are multiparted (with attachments, signed,
html format)? If so, the scanner may not be able to add its tagline to the
readable part of the message.

 --
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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,


  a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have
   to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the
   save-button and close the autoview-memo-window

 You are right, it is not very comfortable but it is the only solution
 I've found for a situation similar to yours.

 Well, I now decided (and already used) Roelofs suggestion to use color
 groups. I did not consider the possibility that a color group can also
 be colorless, thus only be used as a special mark without modifying
 the mail's appearance in the message list (which I would not want).

Yes, I also use colour (or colourless) groups and they are a good
solution when a message can only belong to one category. But if a message
can belong to 2 or more, there is no way to do it with groups. And the
only alternative I've found for that is to use the memo.

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Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.

2006-01-20 Thread MAU
Hello Bob,

 As a check I have accessed the offending account both via
 web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail
 currently in the account.

Have you tried with TB's Dispatcher?

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Re: Option allow local delivery disapeared

2006-01-20 Thread MAU
Hello Gerard,

 On my just installed latest version of TB! the option under
 Option-NetworkAdmin allow local delivery seems to be missing.

You are right, I had not noticed it. What I don't know is if this is
intentional or a bug.

I'm CCing this to TBBeta to see if anyone there knows.

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Re: Option allow local delivery disapeared

2006-01-20 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, January 20, 2006, MAU wrote:

 On my just installed latest version of TB! the option under
 Option-NetworkAdmin allow local delivery seems to be missing.

 You are right, I had not noticed it. What I don't know is if this is
 intentional or a bug.

 I'm CCing this to TBBeta to see if anyone there knows.

AFAIK Client/Server mode was removed since 3.65.03 version.

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Re: Option allow local delivery disapeared

2006-01-20 Thread Gerard

ON Friday, January 20, 2006, 10:36:19 AM, you wrote:
M You are right, I had not noticed it. What I don't know is if this is
M intentional or a bug.

M I'm CCing this to TBBeta to see if anyone there knows.

Thx. I hope someone knows how to get it back.
I noticed that it said it the Help File that it is an option on the server
version, so it should still be in here.

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Graham,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 9:33:12 AM, you wrote:

 Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV?
 I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by
 NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem
 to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan).

GS Same here, and I hadn't noticed it before, but as you say some emails
GS are tagged by NOD32 and others aren't.

I have set Nod32 to only tag those messages that contained/had attachments
containing viri.


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Re[2]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Mark,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 10:05:02 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Graham,

 Friday, January 20, 2006, 9:33:12 AM, you wrote:

 Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV?
 I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by
 NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem
 to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan).

GS Same here, and I hadn't noticed it before, but as you say some emails
GS are tagged by NOD32 and others aren't.

 I have set Nod32 to only tag those messages that contained/had attachments
 containing viri.

I haven't set NOD32 to do anything specific, but of this thread, two
messages aren't tagged (including the root message) and the rest are.



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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:57 +GMT (20-1-2006, 11:11 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

GS I haven't set NOD32 to do anything specific, but of this thread, two
GS messages aren't tagged (including the root message) and the rest are.

Be more specific please.
Of this thread only my message contains attachments, is that part of
the problem? The rest were plain text messages.
All messages claimed to be using us-ascii as charset and 7 bits as
content type, except for yours. (And mine only claimed that in the
description of the attachments.)


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Re[2]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Roelof,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 10:25:20 AM, you wrote:

 Hallo Graham,

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:57 +GMT (20-1-2006, 11:11 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

GS I haven't set NOD32 to do anything specific, but of this thread, two
GS messages aren't tagged (including the root message) and the rest are.

 Be more specific please.
 Of this thread only my message contains attachments, is that part of
 the problem? The rest were plain text messages.
 All messages claimed to be using us-ascii as charset and 7 bits as
 content type, except for yours. (And mine only claimed that in the
 description of the attachments.)



Ok, the the message that started the thread off from Ted isn't tagged.

I also thought that your response to Ted wasn't tagged, but in fact it
is, but in a separate tab Part.txt

So in this thread, only the original message from Ted isn't tagged.


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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

 Yes, I also use colour (or colourless) groups and they are a good
 solution when a message can only belong to one category. But if a message
 can belong to 2 or more, there is no way to do it with groups. And the
 only alternative I've found for that is to use the memo.

Well, you are of course right. Hm...

I just took the time to look through many of the emails in my project
folder and found that there are only few mails that belong to two
virtual folders *without* one of the factors being recipient or sender
or subject. So in most cases color groups will do. But in the other
case I of course still have to use the memo field. Thanks for pointing
that out!

I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just like
the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed while
composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is always
available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

Would someone support such a wish?

Or am I again the only one using that feature, in which case I would
rather prevent keeping ritlabs from doing more important stuff like
IMAP and ... (I always have the feeling they'd rather do new stuff
than debugging old stuff ;-)

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:58:54 +GMT (20-1-2006, 11:58 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

GS Ok, the the message that started the thread off from Ted isn't tagged.

And that was the only non TB message. And it was carrying these
headers:
,- [  ]
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
| Content-Disposition: inline
`-

So Nod32 might have problems with one of those headers.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:05:12 +0100GMT (20-1-2006, 12:05 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MS I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just like
MS the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed while
MS composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is always
MS available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

It's available as column in the message list.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Martin,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just like
MS the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed while
MS composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is always
MS available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

I think that's a very  sensible suggestion. I use memos but normally
have them viewable in a column because there are only two folders where
I use them a lot. However, if they were dockable as you suggest, I'd
probably use them even more for writing notes.

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Re[2]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Roelof,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 11:09:24 AM, you wrote:

 Hallo Graham,

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:58:54 +GMT (20-1-2006, 11:58 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

GS Ok, the the message that started the thread off from Ted isn't tagged.

 And that was the only non TB message. And it was carrying these
 headers:
 ,- [  ]
 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 | Content-Disposition: inline
 `-

 So Nod32 might have problems with one of those headers.


That is strange, because the contents of that message contains a
signature:

Tom
using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Martin,

On 20-01-2006 12:05, you [MS] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MS I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just
MS like the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed
MS while composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is
MS always available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

Of course, memos are of little use in IMAP accounts. One Clear cache
and they're all gone.

I'd prefer them to be in external files (and not the index) and linked
to messages using message-ids.

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Re[2]: Dual address books

2006-01-20 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Bob,

Thursday, January 19, 2006, 11:15:14 PM, you wrote:

BM G'day Jack,

BM Friday, January 20, 2006, 1:20:39 PM, you wrote:

BM snipped

 I see where my wording on this question may have caused you to
 misunderstand. If we assume there are no parked messages but only
 saved, ready-to-send messages, and I choose GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL I
 would expect TB to do only a receive, not a send/receive which is what
 it does. I would expect a send/receive only if I had chosen SEND +
 CHECK FOR ALL.

BM Have you checked Account Properties - Transport to see if the box
BM marked Combined Delivery (Send + Receive) is ticked.  If the box is
BM ticked The Bat! will do both actions together whenever you ask it to
BM Send OR Check for new mail.

That was it. Thank you Bob.
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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Roelof,

 Hallo Martin,

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:05:12 +0100GMT (20-1-2006, 12:05 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

MS I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just like
MS the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed while
MS composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is always
MS available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

 It's available as column in the message list.

Yeah, wish I could edit them there...

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Martin,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It's available as column in the message list.

MS Yeah, wish I could edit them there...

You can. CTRL+SHFT+I

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Peter,

MS I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just
MS like the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed
MS while composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is
MS always available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window.

 Of course, memos are of little use in IMAP accounts. One Clear cache
 and they're all gone.

That is bad.

 I'd prefer them to be in external files (and not the index) and linked
 to messages using message-ids.

I'd say yes, but I guess that would cause quite some overhead when
viewing and deleting messages, in case the number of memos is big. TB
would have to look up in that external file(s) for a certain message
ID to fetch the memo and display it. For a long message list (with
memos displayed in a column) that could be a problem.

The alternative I can think of is a small database-like storage
file for memos and the mids they belong to. That would speed up the
access to the memos when building message lists and viewing messages.
But the file would not be human readable (in case you want to move or
edit it manually) and the fact that there is still no databaselike
construction to find messages quickly via global search shows me that
ritlabs don't seem to like that database concept a lot.


Another solution (not my favorite though) would be to store the memo
in the message in a header field, but that would of course lead to
other problems:

- The integrity of incoming messages would be harmed (i.e. the TB!-rule
  that no incoming message is to be messed with in any way would no
  longer be followed)

- if the message is forwarded the header would be included, maybe also
  confidential informations therein...

Any thoughts?
  
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Deleting duplicate addresses and returned addresses

2006-01-20 Thread monsell
Dear List,

Have 2 Questions:-

1. I have a lot of duplicate email addresses running into thousands of
them. No, i do not do network marketing. How do i find these
duplicates and delete only the ones that does not have a HANDLE?

2. Have a lot of addresses bouncing back. How can i select them all
and delete from the AB? for example, if 100 addresses return, is there
a way to select only the addresses and delete them?

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

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Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.

2006-01-20 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 As a check I have accessed the offending account both via web-mail
 and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail currently
 in the account.

 Have you tried with TB's Dispatcher?

That would be easiest and cleanest way.

Particularly handy for dial-up connections when one or more messages
with larg(er) attachments are waiting for download. Such messages can be
then scheduled for a later download (with having unchecked Download
and Delete options for them), or deleted from server.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Richard,

 Hello Martin,

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 you wrote in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It's available as column in the message list.

MS Yeah, wish I could edit them there...

 You can. CTRL+SHFT+I

Of course I know, how would a memo start its life otherwise ;-) ? But
as I stated before the steps to open the window, type the memo, press
save and close the window again seem rather complicated for just
adding a keyword maybe.

Just trying to find a simpler solution.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Martin,

On 20-01-2006 13:18, you [MS] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'd prefer them to be in external files (and not the index) and
 linked to messages using message-ids.

MS I'd say yes, but I guess that would cause quite some overhead when
MS viewing and deleting messages, in case the number of memos is big.

Yup. Probably.

MS The alternative I can think of is a small database-like storage file
MS for memos and the mids they belong to. That would speed up the
MS access to the memos when building message lists and viewing
MS messages.

Maybe - I wouldn't know. :-)

MS Another solution (not my favorite though) would be to store the memo
MS in the message in a header field, but that would of course lead to
MS other problems:

MS - The integrity of incoming messages would be harmed (i.e. the TB!-rule
MS   that no incoming message is to be messed with in any way would no
MS   longer be followed)

Personally, I have no problem with this.

MS - if the message is forwarded the header would be included, maybe also
MS   confidential informations therein...

Yeah, this would be pretty bad.

MS Any thoughts?

Well, my only input is that the current implementation is pretty bad for
IMAP (not at least because the current state of IMAP requires a fair
number of Clear caches).

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:32:53 +GMT (20-1-2006, 12:32 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

GS Ok, the the message that started the thread off from Ted isn't tagged.
 And that was the only non TB message.
GS That is strange, because the contents of that message contains a
GS signature:

GS Tom
GS using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32

Nonetheless. His message id is definitely not generated by TB.

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Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Deleting duplicate addresses and returned addresses)

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vernon,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:18:07 +0600GMT (20-1-2006, 12:18 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

M Have 2 Questions:-

moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Vernon.

  '

Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been
posted at the bottom of an unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading
mail client.

See View | View threads by | Reference to see where it ended up.

The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread
instead of by all users.

I recommend that you post your question again using a New message
if you want to see more replies to your query.

To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
subscribed.

Thank you.
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Re[2]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Roelof,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 12:39:18 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Graham,

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:32:53 +GMT (20-1-2006, 12:32 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

GS Ok, the the message that started the thread off from Ted isn't tagged.
 And that was the only non TB message.
GS That is strange, because the contents of that message contains a
GS signature:

GS Tom
GS using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32

 Nonetheless. His message id is definitely not generated by TB.


Yes, I don't disbelieve you, just pointing it out :-)

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Dane
On 1/20/06, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could it be that these messages are multiparted (with attachments, signed,
 html format)? If so, the scanner may not be able to add its tagline to the
 readable part of the message.

Not sure how to answer this. Most of my emails (A) only contain text
and sometimes attachments (xls or doc or jpg). These attachments would
be shown in the pane as an icon and have only text in the main pane.
Some emails (B)  would have text and the attachment as an html
picture. In these case I may have two tabs in the main pane, one for
text and one for the html picture. If I click on this Ican see the
picture in TB without opening any other viewer.
In both cases (AB) I have the NOD tag shown.

The email in question (C) contained text and about a dozen jpg files
as attachments. All of them also have tabs in the main pane and can be
viewed directly. In this case no NOD tag is shown.  Looking at the
text though I think there may be a problem as it looks weird :

Our BP specification is:
  Key Specifications/Special Features:

  O Automatic and fast accurate measurement

  OHave time setting function

  OHave auto average function

and so on. I guess the O does not belong there and indicates some
incorrect coding.

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Re: Re[2]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Dane
On 1/20/06, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That is strange, because the contents of that message contains a
 signature:

 Tom
 using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32

Sorry, did not want to confuse you. I am using TB but not when writing
to this list. I have not yet properly configured the Gmail account
with TB and write this from within Gmail.
BTW, why is there a function in the list to have the email address
hidden, when this is obviously not happening. I checked a few times by
reply via email to ... and was able to see the underlying address.  Is
this normal?

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Re[4]: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Ted,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 12:48:04 PM, you wrote:

 On 1/20/06, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That is strange, because the contents of that message contains a
 signature:

 Tom
 using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32

 Sorry, did not want to confuse you. I am using TB but not when writing
 to this list. I have not yet properly configured the Gmail account
 with TB and write this from within Gmail.

The key point is that of the email messages in this thread, yours are
the only ones that NOD32 isn't tagging.

I cannot help with the other question, being very new to The Bat

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Re: Deleting duplicate addresses and returned addresses

2006-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vernon,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:18:07 +0600GMT (20-1-2006, 12:18 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M 1. I have a lot of duplicate email addresses running into thousands of
M them. No, i do not do network marketing. How do i find these
M duplicates and delete only the ones that does not have a HANDLE?

Open the Address Book.
Add the handle column to the view
Sort on addresses and manually delete the duplicates without handles.

When you simply don't want any entries without handle then you can
sort on handle and select and delete all entries without a handle.

The second method is practically instantaneous compared to the first.

M 2. Have a lot of addresses bouncing back. How can i select them all
M and delete from the AB? for example, if 100 addresses return, is there
M a way to select only the addresses and delete them?

As I've mentioned before to you. This kind of thing can be done
automatically with dedicated list server software, but it has to be
done manually with TB, entry by entry.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Martin,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS Of course I know, how would a memo start its life otherwise

Sorry. It's just that, from the way you replied about wishing to be able
to edit the memos there (as I suggested, in the memo column) seemed
that you didn't know you could do it that way. I'll go back into my
corner now :-(

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Deleting duplicate addresses and returned addresses

2006-01-20 Thread monsell
Dear List,

Have 2 Questions:-

1. I have a lot of duplicate email addresses running into thousands of
them. No, i do not do network marketing. How do i find these
duplicates and delete only the ones that does not have a HANDLE?

2. Have a lot of addresses bouncing back. How can i select them all
and delete from the AB? for example, if 100 addresses return, is there
a way to select only the addresses and delete them?

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Thursday, January 19, 2006, 8:59:08 AM, you wrote:

MS Any other suggestions? Thanks a lot for your time!

I  had  an  idea  that  might  work  for this, but I am having trouble
testing it and need some help.

My idea was to use manual filters with hotkeys to set a User Parameter
for a message based on the content. For example if:
sender contains Joe set ABC=1
subject contains lift set ABC=2
sender contains Joe and subject contains lift set ABC=3

You  cannot  test  for  User  Parameter in a VF, so you would have to
filter  in  Sorting  office to assign color groups to the various user
parameters and then set up the VF's based on this.

You could then set these as Manual only and when you receive a message
that  matches your rule you could trigger it using a hotkey. Hopefully
this makes sense in your given situation.

Now  the  problem,  I  don't seem to be able to get user parameters to
work.  Can  anyone assist with this. Are there any directions, I don't
find any in the help file.

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Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Richard,

MS Of course I know, how would a memo start its life otherwise

 Sorry. It's just that, from the way you replied about wishing to be able
 to edit the memos there (as I suggested, in the memo column) seemed
 that you didn't know you could do it that way. I'll go back into my
 corner now :-(

:-) don't you worry, you could as well have been right (I often
overlook the most obvious things...)

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Re: TB, Nod32 and email tags

2006-01-20 Thread John Phillips
Hi Ted,
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, at 17:45:30 [GMT+1100] (which was 17:45:30 Australian
Eastern Time) you wrote:

 Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV?
 I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by
 NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem
 to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan).


All works ok here, even with .jpg attachments.

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Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Roelof,

Friday, January 20, 2006, 6:57:33 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Bob,


 Close TB and delete the account.m_r and account.m_d files matching
 with the problem account. When you're using OTFE the extensions are
 .emr and .emd
 I'm not sure whether this solves the problem so I'd appreciate some
 feedback, but unless you keep mail on the server (and you deleted
 everything) you don't really need them. 


Thanks MAU, Roelof and Maurice for your suggestions.  I gave up in
frustration last night (prior to your replies), shut the computer down
and went to bed. This morning on re-booting The Bat! successfully
downloaded all the messages (including the one with the very large
attachment) that both my ISP web-mail interface and PocoMail had
reported as already having been deleted from my account.  I have no
idea how or what happened, but it is now resolved.  I have politely
suggested to my friend that I would prefer not to receive his large
mass mailings in future.

Sorry Roelof that I can't be the guinea-pig to test the effects of
deleting the account.m-r and account.m-d files :-) .
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