Antispam software
Hello, I use BayesIt! version 0.8.4 (by A.N. Vinogradov)for Spam filtering. However I don't think it does anything. My ISP is using a spam filter, so I don't get to many ( 6-12 daily) but BayesIt doesn't automatically filters them to the spam folder. I have to do it manually. Probably my configuration is not correct. It is set: Average action, move is set if score greater than 40. Both Blacklist rule and White list rule are empty. I checked some header on Spam info, 3 of them are here: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: another: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=DCC_CHECK, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_WEB_BUGS, MIME_HTML_ONLY, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, YOU_WON X-Spam-Level: ** Here are two headers for spams which I manually moved as spam: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Level: ** Status: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL, URIBL_SBL X-Spam-Level: *** Would appreciate any suggestion where is my problem, or how to configure the White List and Black List Rule? Or should I switch to Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler, is this software better? Thank you in advance -- Best regards, Peter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT 3.71.03, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam software
PK Hello, PK I use BayesIt! version 0.8.4 (by A.N. Vinogradov)for Spam filtering. PK However I don't think it does anything. My ISP is using a spam filter, PK so I don't get to many ( 6-12 daily) but BayesIt doesn't automatically PK filters them to the spam folder. I have to do it manually. PK Probably my configuration is not correct. It is set: Average action, PK move is set if score greater than 40. Both Blacklist rule and PK White list rule are empty. PK I checked some header on Spam info, 3 of them are here: PK X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 PK tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO PK X-Spam-Level: PK another: PK X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 PK tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE PK X-Spam-Level: PK X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=DCC_CHECK, PK HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_WEB_BUGS, MIME_HTML_ONLY, SPF_HELO_PASS, PK SPF_PASS, YOU_WON PK X-Spam-Level: ** PK Here are two headers for spams which I manually moved as spam: PK X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 PK tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL PK X-Spam-Level: ** PK Status: PK X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 tagged_above=-100.0 required=5.0 PK tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, PK SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL, URIBL_SBL PK X-Spam-Level: *** PK PK Would appreciate any suggestion where is my problem, or how to PK configure the White List and Black List Rule? PK Or should I switch to Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler, is this PK software better? PK Thank you in advance I've used Bayesit with some success after training. While I found it did filter some, it wasn't what I was used to (K9). I've also used Bayes Filter but had to change because of problems with TB being default email. When clicking on a mailto TB would open several Edit windows. Never could get that fixed. I'm using AntispamSniper on my notebook and trialing on my desktop. It has a better success rate after some training. It's not free but but seems to be doing a better job. My 2cents worth... Larry -- TheBat! 3.71.03 Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Paul Meathrel @ 3/10/2006 7:23:17 AM Backing mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Font settings, pane layout etc...not saved Perhaps, even with this half-baked message, I can offer a solution. Make a sperate copy of The Bat!'s registry entries (HKCU/Software/RIT). -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Legally drunk pgpJNUUVPSQTY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Tom @ 3/10/2006 4:34:56 PM maintenance and max size of folders mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Could I do the same, ie moving a folder from documents settings / application data/ The Bat/ Folder X to another spot on my harddrive without affecting the working of TB? Could I if necessary put it back at a later stage? You can remove the .TBI .TBB files from your mail directory and The Bat! will not complain. However, I would only do this when The Bat! was not running. The next time a message is place in that folder, it will simply re-create those files. Is any of this necessary or are you guys all happy with quite a number of big folders within TB. It doesn't cause me any problems. I currently have about 50,000 messages (a relatively small number, compared to many) in this account. Most of them are kept in special archive folders which I keep collapsed in the folder pane (They are sub-folders of the main folder). I only really access them via the search tool. This keeps the main folders down to a reasonable number (around 1,500). -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Clearly misunderstood pgpRl2BLJZzPK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folder filtered by hours
Hello rich, Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:16:58 AM, you wrote: I did look at the properties|filters screen but alas, no. There is no AGE option there. :( Select Use Filter, click on Any message, select age. Should be pretty straightforward from there... -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
Hello pr1, Friday, March 10, 2006, 6:13:10 PM, you wrote: I have a dozen email accounts and I've been using Popfile on the main one but I'd like to try something better because it's a resource hog. Funny. I just returned to popfile because all the others I've tried didn't work for me. It also doesn't seem to be as large a ressource hog anymore. On my old desktop it always used 6% cpu, I would've expected it to use at least 1% on my faster laptop but it uses, well, 0%. Anyway, I've found while popfile has it's issues they're more minor than those of the other programs. But best test them yourself, it seems many people don't have issues with k9 for example... -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com wrote: TJ 11 March 2006 - 09:18 TJ Hello pr1, TJ Friday, March 10, 2006, 5:13:10 PM, you wrote: puo Is there such a product? TJ K9 - http://keir.net/k9.html - free, as in beer. Thanks! How easy did you find it to set up? Once set up, does it check your various accounts separately one at a time or is there a way to have it interpose itself between the incoming mail and the mailboxes? I'm asking because MUCH of that spam clearly comes from the same spammers, so I'm guessing the filtering would be more efficient that way. But I could be off, the intricacies of the whole process do baffle me somewhat g -- Best regards, Miles Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Antispam software
Hello Peter, Sunday, March 12, 2006, 5:00:52 PM, you wrote: LW I've used Bayesit with some success after training. While I found it LW did filter some, it wasn't what I was used to (K9). I've also used LW Bayes Filter but had to change because of problems with TB being LW default email. When clicking on a mailto TB would open several Edit LW windows. Never could get that fixed. LW I'm using AntispamSniper on my notebook and trialing on my desktop. It LW has a better success rate after some training. It's not free but but LW seems to be doing a better job. I used BayesIt and it worked well enough considering the price g I am using Agava now and at $12 is a value that mostly works better than BayesIt. I have not used any of the intermediate programs like K9, so cannot compare with those. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.72.01 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
13 March 2006 - 06:43 Hello pr1, Sunday, March 12, 2006, 11:49:11 PM, you wrote: puo Is there such a product? TJ K9 - http://keir.net/k9.html - free, as in beer. puo How easy did you find it to set up? I'm using it with eleven accounts - a mixture of domain and web-based. It took about twenty minutes And I found the instructions straightforward. A couple of changes to each account's properties plus a new filterfor each. I append the word [Spam] to the end of the email's subject line and any with that tag end up in a single spam folder. You can use K9 for *all* your filtering (not just to identify ham/spam) but I prefer to use TB! for that. puo Once set up, does it check your various accounts separately one at a time or puo is there a way to have it interpose itself between the incoming mail and puo the mailboxes? It does the latter. Anything identified as spam doesn't get to the account; it's moved straight to the spam folder. puo But I could be off, the intricacies of the whole process do baffle me puo somewhat g There are further 'intricacies' (you have to 'train it' to recognise the less-obvious spam and there are occasional housekeeping functions but it does start to work efficiently 'out-of-box' and the 'extras' can wait. After a couple of months I'm getting 98.55% accuracy but this figure has reduced recently because of some innocuous-looking text spam. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
