Re: Google Mail
Hello Roland Burger everyone else, on 05-Dez-2006 at 07:21 you (Roland Burger) wrote: Before you can use POP3 access, you must enable it for your account: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273 It is already enabled! Wonderful! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular? -- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi all Looking at headers from TB I can see Helo=Office Office is the Full Computer Name of my XP desktop machine. Does TB! decide this? Why? Can I decide what this should be? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hello Barry everyone else, on 05-Dez-2006 at 17:42 you (Barry) wrote: Does TB! decide this? Yes (but actually, the current alpha/beta versions use localhost, which is quite problematic). Why? In the SMTP handshake state the client (or rather, the machine wishing to relay a message to another SMTP server) should send an identification, thats the HELO (or EHLO). When official SMTP servers are talking to each other, the handshake must be a fully qualified domain name (like mail.domain.com). When a client like TB talks to an SMTP server, the machine usually has no fully qualified domain name, so the local machine's name is used instead. Can I decide what this should be? No. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Sushi Bar - Damask Rose by Vangelis (from the 2003 compilation Blade Runner Soundtrack (Esper Bootleg)) Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
Dave wrote: ... I also don't find for the pop-server the possibility to set SSL! In TB! it's called TLS. Does this screenshot help? http://www.dave31175.com/gmail.gif That's all it took. Thanks. -- Douglas Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
Hi On Tuesday 5 December 2006 at 7:03:12 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roland Burger wrote: Where do I find a browser lock icon? On the site of Google Mail? I took it that Dean meant the padlock icon that appears in the bottom corner when viewing a secure page. However, clicking it gives me an opportunity to view but not download the certificate. I use Firefox as browser! So do I. FWIW, my intermediate CA address book contains a Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA and my trusted root CA AB contains three of VeriSign, Inc. Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority entries. Do you have these? -- Best regards, MFPA A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 $$$ LDIF Clipboard format $$$ dn: cn=Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA,mail= cn: Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA modifyTimeStamp: 20041121T093047Z givenName: Thawte sn: CA initials: Personal Freemail Issuing homeCountry: ZA o: Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd. c: ZA xbatTemplateOptions: - xbatFavourite: userPKCS12;binary:: MIIDqQIBAzCCA6IGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCCA5MEggOPMIIDizCCA4cGCSqGSIb3DQEH AaCCA3gEggN0MIIDcDCCA2wGCyqGSIb3DQEMCgEDoIIDWzCCA1cGCiqGSIb3DQEJ FgGgggNHBIIDQzCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUg VG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRp ZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJz b25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1h aWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIx CzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBM dGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBD QTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRw nd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FW y688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMG A1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJz b25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEa MBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzR UIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFi w9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq72 6jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8= objectclass: top objectclass: person Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 05-Dez-2006 at 03:51 you (MFPA) wrote: [quoting a message from 2005] I had all sort of problems loading from Gmail. Until, I actually went to the web site logged in, I clicked on the browser lock icon and was able to download the certificate. Have had no problems since. FWIW, when I tried gmail with TB I had not to fiddle around with the certificates. I'm not using gmail with TB anymore but the only thing that needed adjusting was to use port 587 instead of 465 (meanwhile, Google corrected their documentation as it seems) for SMTP. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: One More Kiss, Dear by Skelling Vangelis Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi On Tuesday 5 December 2006 at 6:48:38 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: When a client like TB talks to an SMTP server, the machine usually has no fully qualified domain name, so the local machine's name is used instead. Can I decide what this should be? No. What about start control panel system computer name? Does TB! not use that anymore? -- Best regards, MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi MFPA, on Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:09:07 +GMT (05.12.2006, 21:09 +0100GMT here), you wrote: When a client like TB talks to an SMTP server, the machine usually has no fully qualified domain name, so the local machine's name is used instead. Can I decide what this should be? No. M What about start control panel system computer name? Does M TB! not use that anymore? No, not here. It uses localhost instead. -- Cheers Peter A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 05-Dez-2006 at 21:14 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: M What about start control panel system computer name? Does M TB! not use that anymore? No, not here. It uses localhost instead. That is a bug of the current betas .07 and .08. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6111 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: I Dreamt Music by Vangelis Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi Alexander, on Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:22:09 +0100GMT (05.12.2006, 21:22 +0100GMT here), you wrote: M What about start control panel system computer name? Does M TB! not use that anymore? No, not here. It uses localhost instead. ASK That is a bug of the current betas .07 and .08. ASK http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6111 I checked older messages. It is the same in the release version 3.85.03. In older versions a reference to the respective ISP is used. -- Cheers Peter Error: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 05-Dez-2006 at 21:34 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: No, not here. It uses localhost instead. ASK That is a bug of the current betas .07 and .08. ASK http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6111 I checked older messages. It is the same in the release version 3.85.03. I haven't checked older versions, sorry. The original poster on TBBETA reverted to beta .06 where it uses the local machine name instead. See the thread on TBBETA: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In older versions a reference to the respective ISP is used. Hmmm. I'd regard that as problematic just as well. My IP address is dynamic and has nothing to do with the mail relayer that is set for my domain. A reverse lookup in the HELO state would fail. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Wounded Animals by Vangelis Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi On Tuesday 5 December 2006 at 8:14:04 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Meyns wrote: Hi MFPA, on Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:09:07 +GMT (05.12.2006, 21:09 +0100GMT here), you wrote: When a client like TB talks to an SMTP server, the machine usually has no fully qualified domain name, so the local machine's name is used instead. Can I decide what this should be? No. M What about start control panel system computer name? Does M TB! not use that anymore? No, not here. It uses localhost instead. Alexander mentioned the current alpha/beta versions use that. I just looked and here it now seems to use the domain name from some of my email addresses. Always the same domain name, not from either of my most-used addresses. -- Best regards, MFPA Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hallo Alexander, On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:47:21 +0100GMT (5-12-2006, 21:47 , where I live), you wrote: In older versions a reference to the respective ISP is used. ASK Hmmm. I'd regard that as problematic just as well. My IP address is ASK dynamic and has nothing to do with the mail relayer that is set for my ASK domain. A reverse lookup in the HELO state would fail. But still it's what it's supposed to do. The EHLO should give a domain name that identifies the client system. On your LAN to your local mail server that can be your computer name, as it's likely that that will point to the right computer (it does on my LAN), but when you're talking to something else you should give a domain name or a literal address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpjPX8GxUNSR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
Hi MFPA, on Tuesday, December 5, 2006 at 20:37 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: FWIW, my intermediate CA address book contains a Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA I have it also there! and my trusted root CA AB contains three of VeriSign, Inc. Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority entries. Do you have these? I have two of these! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E I use The Bat! v3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
