Re: mass mailing and AB
Hallo Vernon, On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:26:32 +0530GMT (23-5-2007, 7:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M can a macro be developed to insert the email addresses in the TO and M BCC fields automatically when this particular HANDLE is called M upon? this could be for single messages or mass mailing. The only way to use the other addresses as BCC used to be when you're picking a single address book entry from the AB and create a new message. I wrote 'used to be' as I haven't used this for ages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpRZzHiGml4C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Outlook 2003
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:42:01 PM, you wrote: The functionality of accessing the same message base at the same time from multiple systems has been discontinued around v3.65 I don't know for sure how many licenses you'd need, but there's no problem whatsoever to access the same data from different computers as long as you're using three v3 versions. (Don't have to be exactly the same v3 versions.) I used to use the bat to access the same message base on a network. I'm confused now, because you say above it has been discontinued, then you say there's no problem to access the same data from different computers. Are you saying it now locks the message base so that only one user can access it? -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Perry, Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 5:45:37 PM, you wrote: Hi TBUDL, Can any of you tell me how I would enter the symbol for the Euro while typing a message in The Bat!? I am using the Western European (ISO) character set. Thanks. I always use CTRL-ALT-4 all at once Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong pgp7yh1XBRDBm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mass mailing and the AB
dear mr roelof, i had posted the following on TBUDL and have no reply from members. can you please assist me on this matter? =quote= good day to all, if more than one email address is entered in a single 'edit address entry' window (one below the other), how can i make all the addresses to appear when this particular entry is selected for mass mailing? can someone help me with a macro? mass mailing identifies only the first address of the entry even though the 'automatically add secondary addresses to the BCC field' is ticked. can a macro be developed to insert the email addresses in the TO and BCC fields automatically when this particular HANDLE is called upon? this could be for single messages or mass mailing. thanks in advance for your help =unquote= -- best regards vernon Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Marten, On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:31:29 +0100 GMT (23/05/2007, 02:31 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG The various reponses indicates why its a generally bad idea to use currency MG symbols in email. Different machines display the symbol differently. That shouldn't be the case, if the encoding is correct. MG Thus all currency should be, I would suggest, follow this protocol: MG http://www.jhall.demon.co.uk/currency/by_abbrev.html Looks to me like the bankers' codes. That's based on SWIFT, which uses only low-ASCII charaters. But in emails people like to use the symbol, such as HK$ instead of HKD, ¥ instead of JYE, or € instead of EUR. And why not? Email offers the choice. You can even write in Chinese these days (but I won't bore you with the Yuan symbol). MG eg: UK pounds = GBP There is (was?) also UKP. However, typing £ is easier for the Brits, as they have a key for it on their keyboard. -- Cheers, Thomas. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Outlook 2003
Hallo Doug, On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:15:13 +GMT (23-5-2007, 10:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: The functionality of accessing the same message base at the same time from multiple systems has been discontinued around v3.65 DH I don't know for sure how many licenses you'd need, but there's no problem whatsoever to access the same data from different computers as long as you're using three v3 versions. (Don't have to be exactly the same v3 versions.) DH I used to use the bat to access the same message base on a network. DH I'm confused now, because you say above it has been discontinued, then DH you say there's no problem to access the same data from different DH computers. DH Are you saying it now locks the message base so that only one user can DH access it? Before v3.65 (IIRC) TB had a 'server' feature. That meant that one instance of TB did the connecting to the internet and the other instances had access to the same message base in client mode. The clients only accessed the message base, but didn't send or collect mail. The client versions dropped their outgoing messages to the outbox and the server instance took care of the actual sending. It's that feature that has been discontinued. That's why I won't guarantee that you can still access on message base by multiple instances of TB at the same time. When you're accessing it at different moments I see no problem whatsoever. -- Groetjes, Roelof The shortest distance between two Points is a BossNode. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpuqJLSSSYaz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hi Sean, Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 1:08:02 PM, you wrote: SR I always use CTRL-ALT-4 all at once Thanks, but that doesn't work for me. My only alternative is to use Alt+0128, presumably because mine is a US Keyboard. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Perry, On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:23:38 -0400 GMT (23/05/2007, 03:23 +0700 GMT), Perry Nelson wrote: PN I've chosen to reply to your message, Jernej, because when I used the PN Alt+0128, suggested by Urban, Peter, and Costas either directly or PN through the links to which the pointed me, I noticed that the character PN set in which I was writing the message changed to the Latin 9 apparently PN on its own. Yes, that's as expected. TB!'s editors use the lowest charset available by default, but when you use a symbol, and that charset doesn't accommodate it, the editor will change the encoding to a charset that does. I think that's good. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Nordamerika besteht aus lauter kleinen und grossen Inseln, von denen jedoch die wenigsten von Wasser umflossen sind. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Perry, Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 1:29:32 PM, you wrote: Hi Sean, Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 1:08:02 PM, you wrote: SR I always use CTRL-ALT-4 all at once Thanks, but that doesn't work for me. My only alternative is to use Alt+0128, presumably because mine is a US Keyboard. Yeah I forgot that when I typed it, of course you could save an email with it there and copy/paste it :lol: €€ :lol: Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong pgpnbrRaUshou.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Marten, On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:31:29 +0100 GMT (23/05/2007, 02:31 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG The various reponses indicates why its a generally bad idea to use currency MG symbols in email. Different machines display the symbol differently. That shouldn't be the case, if the encoding is correct. Indeed that may well be the case - I defer to your knowledge. The trouble is 95 per cent of people using machines wouldn't know what encoding meant if you sprayed it on their eyeballs - so for contractual purposes one resorts to the alpha representation. [snip] There is (was?) also UKP. However, typing £ is easier for the Brits, as they have a key for it on their keyboard. Easier but can void a contract if unclear. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.3 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Outlook 2003
Hello Mike, 1A. Can TB data files be stored on a networked external hard drive so that we can access the mail from two computers and a laptop? We do NOT need to access the mail at the same time, but we do need to look at it and respond to it from the two desktops and the laptop at different times easily. Doing this here every day: one desktop (hosting the files actually, but works with a network-share, too) and one notebook used in the office sometimes, mostly on the road. I am opening TB only on one machine at a time (so I think one licence is fine, isn't it?) and have the files available as offline files so TB finds them in the right place when I am not connected to the server. 2. Our Outlook mail is currently in a PST file which is approaching 1 gb. Our mailboxes have folders and sub-folders. Will TB import all the mail and mailboxes correctly so that we won't have lost anything? I'm not asking for a guarantee here, just some advice on the general reliability of the import process. If you don't need a guarantee I can say this works ok. Recently moved all my mails from Outlook to TB again to train my spam filter with ham. The mail folders from Outlook looked good in TB. -- Martin TB! 3.99.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving from Outlook 2003
1A. Can TB data files be stored on a networked external hard drive so that we can access the mail from two computers and a laptop? Doing this here every day: one desktop (hosting the files actually, but works with a network-share, too) and one notebook used in the office sometimes, mostly on the road. I am opening TB only on one machine at a time (so I think one licence is fine, isn't it?) and have the files available as offline files so TB finds them in the rightplace when I am not connected to the server. I'm not sure what you mean by having the files available as offline files. Would this be necessary for me since I'm not on a server? It's just a home network. -- Mike Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
On Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 21:24:14, Mean Drake wrote: http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/15/TB.JPG http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/16/TB2.JPG Can you post the headers of those messages (and also, are you viewing this on the same machine)? I've seen TB display Arabic fine, though I've heard that the Indic scripts are quite a challenge to get right. -- Jernej Simonèiè http://deepthought.ena.si/ Seven-eighths of everything can't be seen. -- Titanics Generalized Iceberg Theorem Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Jernej, Thursday, May 24, 2007, 1:20:07 AM, you wrote: On Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 21:24:14, Mean Drake wrote: http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/15/TB.JPG http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/16/TB2.JPG Can you post the headers of those messages (and also, are you viewing this on the same machine)? I've seen TB display Arabic fine, though I've heard that the Indic scripts are quite a challenge to get right. I am posting headers but am just masking out some email addresses as these belong to friends who might not want them in a a searchable archive. And yes, the screens are all on same machine. The headers of the first screen. This is where I click on the email field to get it to display properly. Till then it won't: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from amutka.pair.com (amutka.pair.com [209.68.3.220]) by mail.nerdshack.com with ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:21:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 27301 invoked by uid 800); 27 Apr 2007 13:21:20 - Resent-Date: 27 Apr 2007 13:21:20 - Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; MBOX-Line: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 27 09:21:19 2007 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YF6JMQspHfKdCoHMXKgEpMlkhyEMfPN8RdqVqQanvnXr2yRQVLXiOrjxWrA7nlG6q7IiZ9AWIHFbq/VkVsh3jn5eICEIoyoEQ50MLA41qNtLDFtMVIErqxUJW8+Jb4yGbxQkqru/nN1sp3AsAJBKhWB1Vto1z+nojV7GLBVF4/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CqoTT14dXilsdHrSykOtOtYJjWu9rw9HP7LnJ0tzH/N5cucCglbyKjZ9sLDrZ5FNPcigv0bWwu7HlKmGNgxYLI7FnGMDGCHeCssw83hzO5TmsAXocJcroXc+zx2RsO83IjGTbSt96GzCS+z+/6g0f2jyNfw2Ysr2cxj+UnxlsSE= Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:51:17 +0530 From: =?UTF-8?B?RHIgVGFoZXIgICjgpKHgpL7gpbAg?= =?UTF-8?B?4KSk4KS+4KS54KWH4KSwIOCkleCkvuCkl+CksuCkteCkvuCksuCkvik=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nukkad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re[2]: [nukkad] unnecesary progs staring after booting In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/latest/50153 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Mumbai Central Headers of second screen which has the Unicode in body of message and never displays well: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.server (203.199.86.58.static.vsnl.net.in [203.199.86.58]) by mail.nerdshack.com with ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:19:32 -0500 Received: from 202.177.236.58 ([10.20.30.254]) by mail.server.com (mailserver [10.10.10.10]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 37-md5003383.tmp for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 May 2007 00:46:39 +0530 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 00:48:23 +0530 From: Mean Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAM: [Fwd: Re: [nukkad] unnecesary progs staring after booting] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=030809060504050102090400 X-Spam-Processed: mailserver, Thu, 24 May 2007 00:46:39 +0530 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.20.30.254 X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
On Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 22:31:21, Mean Drake wrote: I am posting headers but am just masking out some email addresses as these belong to friends who might not want them in a a searchable archive. Sorry, I should've been more specific - I'm only interested in the Content-Type header (all of them, there should be several if the first one is multipart/mixed). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ All laws are basically false. -- Larkinson's Law Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Wednesday, May 23, 2007, Mean Drake wrote: this has been my long standing problem and I will be glad to have some suggestions. Try using Arial Unicode MS as a font. It includes more characters than Courier New (which it seems you are using now). If you find that helps, it might be worth investigating shareware fonts such as Code2000 http://www.code2000.net/ -- Urban All knowledge, the totality of all questions and answers, is contained in the dog. (Franz Kafka) Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mass mailing and the AB
Dear Monsell, I have divorced this topic from the thread into which it was misplaced. @23-May-2007, 17:34 +0530 (23-May 13:04 here) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [M] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Roelof: M i had posted the following on TBUDL and have no reply from members. M can you please assist me on this matter? It is probably better practice not to ask questions of a specific individual. We are all here to help, and all help is unpaid. We are fellow TB users rather than employees. (Of course, some of us are more equal than others ;-) ) ... snip M if more than one email address is entered in a single 'edit address M entry' window (one below the other), how can i make all the M addresses to appear when this particular entry is selected for mass M mailing? can someone help me with a macro? This is pretty complicated and I don't think that a macro can see past the first address in the list. I am completely unsure as to why you would want to send a single individual multiple copies of the same message to each of that person's known addresses. I know I'd hate to receive such a mailing. M mass mailing identifies only the first address of the entry even M though the 'automatically add secondary addresses to the BCC field' M is ticked. That's not something I'd have guessed would happen. Then again, as I say above, it's not something I would have wanted to do. M can a macro be developed to insert the email addresses in the TO M and BCC fields automatically when this particular HANDLE is called M upon? this could be for single messages or mass mailing. I could think of ways to do it by subverting other fields in the address book - like the Memo field. I do it often. But I'm still not clear about why you need it and what you really need to achieve. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.99.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpYPj7SA2kRW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hi On Wednesday 23 May 2007 at 3:33:14 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: MG eg: UK pounds = GBP There is (was?) also UKP. I seem to recall reading that it is GB in this instance because Ukraine also wanted UK so neither got it. Or something. -- Best regards, MFPA If you can't convince them, confuse them. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hi On Wednesday 23 May 2007 at 5:28:21 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marten Gallagher wrote: Easier but can void a contract if unclear. For the complete avoidance of doubt, why not write the name of the currency? For example, pounds sterling may be better than either GBP (which the other party may not understand) or a pound sign (which may display as something else on the other party's screen). -- Best regards, MFPA Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:32:54 +0100 GMT (24/05/2007, 04:32 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: MG eg: UK pounds = GBP There is (was?) also UKP. M I seem to recall reading that it is GB in this instance because M Ukraine also wanted UK so neither got it. Or something. It's possible that I remember UKP from times when Ukraine was still a an SSR. BTW what's their TLD now? -- Cheers, Thomas. Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie regelmaessig mit Butter beschmiert. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:59:26 +0100 GMT (24/05/2007, 05:59 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Easier but can void a contract if unclear. M For the complete avoidance of doubt, why not write the name of the M currency? For example, pounds sterling may be better than either M GBP (which the other party may not understand) or a pound sign M (which may display as something else on the other party's screen). That is correct, in contracts you will usually find the currencies written out in words. However, everyday email is for fast and easy communication. -- Cheers, Thomas. Home is where you can say anything you like 'cause nobody listens to you anyway. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hello Mean, On Thu, 24 May 2007 00:54:14 +0530 GMT (24/05/2007, 02:24 +0700 GMT), Mean Drake wrote: MD May not be relevant to thread till now but how good is TB's unicode MD support even now. Unicode text in some languages has never displayed MD well in TB though a CC of the same mail to my other account displays MD perfectly in ThunderBird (coincidentally also TB) so it cannot be MD something like some fonts that my system is missing. At least in the MD Message header above the Message body if I click on the Fields MD displayed, the gibberish becomes readable but never in the text of the MD email. MD See screen: MD http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/15/TB.JPG MD http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/142/16/TB2.JPG As Jernej already mentioned, we would need to the the content-type header, which shows the encoding. However, I have a feeling you are using a font that does not have those characters. Which font are you using to display message bodies? MD Sorry for going away from the Euro symbol but we were on character MD displays and this has been my long standing problem and I will be glad MD to have some suggestions. It's fine, because your question is more TB!-related than the Euro thread! -- Cheers, Thomas. When you breath, you inspire. When you do not breath, you expire. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
