Re[2]: Download manager

[Paul Berger]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 4:42:21 PM, you wrote:

SC> Hello Paul,
SC> Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 1:52:03 PM, you wrote:

PB>> Is there some way to turn off this download manager?

SC> Remove the check mark from the box in the lower left corner that says "Show
SC> this window automatically".



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Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:53:53 +, MFPA
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>I used to have that file but it disappeared all on its own when I
>upgraded to v4.

Hi,

Odd - I upgraded to v4 a few days ago, and it was still listed
afterwards. Oh well, I ended up deleting it. I have NOD32 installed,
I'll just have to hope that it wasn't a plugin NOD32 had installed,
and that my emails continue to be virus scanned...
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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Luc]

Good evening Maggie,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 11:49:53 GMT-0500 (which was
13:49:53 where I live) Maggie Meister would write:



MM> If someone makes a wish about this feature, I will support it.

I filed a bug report... although it might be a wish for most 
 
 
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Re: list question (OT???)

[Luc]

Good evening Rick,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 12:10:53 GMT-0400 (which was
13:10:53 where I live) Rick Grunwald would write:

RG> That happens with Gmail - it realizes you sent the message so it
RG> doesn't return a copy to the inbox. I have found that if I send to a
RG> list via CC or BCC I would often get a copy back.

strange because it's the first time it happened to me... maybe better
if i sign up again with another account :-)
 
 
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Re[2]: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Dwight,

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 10:10:41 AM you wrote:

DC> What is the point of parking messages if you park them all?

Oh, I don't park them *all* just some, as I mentioned..

DC> To me the
DC> whole notion of parking a message is to make it impossible to delete.

Yes.

DC> Why one should be able to delete a parked message by moving it flies
DC> in the face of the whole notion.

I don't want to delete the parked message, just move it to another 
folder.

Doug Weller in his message of today at 10:41 where I am, elucidated
what I'm thinking.

DougW> I want to be able to protect a message against deletion and 
DougW> then organise it the way I want to organise it.

If someone makes a wish about this feature, I will support it.

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Re: list question (OT???)

[Rick Grunwald]

>  Good morning list,

>  I noticed that i don't receive my own posts to the list although i
>  configured my settings on
>  http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html to receive them.

>  Anybody else has this problem?
>  
That happens with Gmail - it realizes you sent the message so it
doesn't return a copy to the inbox. I have found that if I send to a
list via CC or BCC I would often get a copy back. It is flaky though,
- go figure :))



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Re: Moving parked messages

[Doug Weller]

Hi Volker,


Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 8:17:55 AM, you wrote:

> [Reply to: »George Mitchell« · 2008-03-19 · 07:30 h (CET)]

> Moin, George!

 Why should I not move parked messages and keep the "Parked" flag?

>>> You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
>>> would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

>> I think what people, myself included, are looking for is something
>> like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against
>> accidental deletion/purging. Just because I want to protect a
>> message doesn't mean I don't want to organize it. The Park flag is
>> especially ill-suited for this as currently implemented.

> +1

> I could not have said this better myself. :-)

Agreed. This is a major pain for me.  I want to be able to protect a
message against deletion and then organise it the way I want to
organise it.

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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Luc]

Good afternoon Dwight,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 10:01:15 GMT-0500 (which was
12:01:15 where I live) Dwight Corrin would write:



DC> Solves the problem about not being
DC> able to find it at its destination. And no dialogue boxes asking
DC> questions.

Still don't see the problem with the ability of moving them and
keeping them parked... but i guess it's just a matter of different
opinions  For the time being it's impossible so i'll leave it at
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Re: list question (OT???)

[Luc]

Good afternoon Stuart,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 09:51:14 GMT-0500 (which was
11:51:14 where I live) Stuart Cuddy would write:



SC> Gmail problem.

Again? lol

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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Dwight Corrin]

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 8:26:52 AM, Maggie Meister wrote:

> Absolutely agree. In my Lists subfolders I have TBUDL, TBBETA, and
> TBParked. I park some messages in the first two, but don't get
> around  to moving them for a while - when I do, they all unpark of
> course,  into the Parked folder, where they then need to be reparked
> 'just in  case'.

What is the point of parking messages if you park them all? To me the
whole notion of parking a message is to make it impossible to delete.
Why one should be able to delete a parked message by moving it flies
in the face of the whole notion. I can't drive to the mall and have
my car be parked at the same time. My messages used to get organized
by filters, and be where I wanted them. Now with IMAP they get
organized before they ever hit my machine. Once they are where I want
them, if they are important enough, I might park them. But if I had
50,000 or so parked messages, parking wouldn't mean much any more.

Put differently, if everything was 'parked' how would I recognize the
messages which were important enough to park?

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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Dwight Corrin]

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 9:43:38 AM, Luc wrote:

> I see your point but since apparently it's possible when you copy
> the message,

so it does. Makes sense, since the message is parked when it's
copied, but not when it's moved. Solves the problem about not being
able to find it at its destination. And no dialogue boxes asking
questions.

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Re: list question (OT???)

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Luc,
Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 9:49:33 AM, you wrote:

> I noticed that i don't receive my own posts to the list although i
>  configured my settings on
>  http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html to receive them.

>  Anybody else has this problem?
>  
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list question (OT???)

[Luc]

 Good morning list,

 I noticed that i don't receive my own posts to the list although i
 configured my settings on
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html to receive them.

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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Luc]

Good morning Dwight,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 00:14:56 GMT-0500 (which was
02:14:56 where I live) Dwight Corrin would write:

DC> You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
DC> would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

I see your point but since apparently it's possible when you copy the
message, i'm wondering why it shouldn't be possible TB! acts like
that when moving manually but then again i'm not a programmer lol.
 
 
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Re: Moving parked messages

[Luc]

Good morning MFPA,  
  
It was foretold that on 18/03/2008 @ 00:46:38 GMT+ (which was
21:46:38 where I live) MFPA would write:



M> Perhaps the pop-up could/should have a checkbox option to re-park
M> the messages after moving them.

Excellent idea IMHO

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Re: WAS: moving parked messages

[Luc]

Good morning Mark,  
  
It was foretold that on 19/03/2008 @ 09:12:16 GMT+0100 (which was
05:12:16 where I live) Mark Partous would write:



MP> If one uses the method described by Ian White and creates a colour group
MP> [f.i. "Moving Parked", "Parkeerbeheer" :-) or whatever], assigns it to the
MP> parked messages before moving them, one doesn't have to worry about unread
MP> messages that already were in the folder you were moving them to.

Right, that's also an easy way to find them back and re-park them
again.

Tnx (Bedankt)
 
 
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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Volker,

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:37:30 +0100 GMT (19/03/2008, 03:37 +0700 GMT),
Volker Ahrendt wrote:

VA> I bet it is working as designed, but I am not convinced that the
VA> design is completely user friendly:

VA> I sometimes move a bunch of messages (parked and unparked) from one
VA> folder to another. I confirm the warning and have to go through all
VA> the messages to find the ones which need to be parked again.

When you copy messages, the parked status is copied too. So, what I do
is copy to the destination folder and then unpark and delete them in
the original folder. It's just a workaround, but maybe it helps.

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Re[2]: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Maggie Meister]

Hello George and Dwight,

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 1:30:20 AM you wrote:

DC>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 3:37:30 PM, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

>>> Why should I not move parked messages and keep the "Parked" flag?

DC>> You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
DC>> would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

How about a command that allows 'secure move'?

GM> like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against 
GM> accidental deletion/purging.  Just because I want to protect a message
GM> doesn't mean I don't want to organize it.

Absolutely agree. In my Lists subfolders I have TBUDL, TBBETA, and 
TBParked. I park some messages in the first two, but don't get around 
to moving them for a while - when I do, they all unpark of course, 
into the Parked folder, where they then need to be reparked 'just in 
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Re: Moving parked messages

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »MFPA« · 2008-03-19 · 01:46 h (CET)]

Moin, MFPA!

>> So you really think that I should make even more "friends" on
>> TBBeta Mailing List as I did in the past? ;-)

> I thought he was referring to filing a wish on Bug Tracker
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/

I know that. I am just referring to the reaction on TBBeta Mailing
List regarding some wishes or bugs: "Rejected! It works as designed,
because it has been always that way and the developpers wanted it that
way! No need for further discussion! Basta!" :-/

Cheers!
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Re: Moving parked messages

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »George Mitchell« · 2008-03-19 · 07:30 h (CET)]

Moin, George!

>>> Why should I not move parked messages and keep the "Parked" flag?

>> You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
>> would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

> I think what people, myself included, are looking for is something
> like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against
> accidental deletion/purging. Just because I want to protect a
> message doesn't mean I don't want to organize it. The Park flag is
> especially ill-suited for this as currently implemented.

+1

I could not have said this better myself. :-)

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Re: WAS: moving parked messages

[Mark Partous]

Hello Luc,

Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 10:33:36 PM, you wrote:

L> The way i go around this for the time being is that i mark them as
L>  unread and move them. That way i easily find them back and
L>  "shortcut" them as parked and read.

If one uses the method described by Ian White and creates a colour group
[f.i. "Moving Parked", "Parkeerbeheer" :-) or whatever], assigns it to the
parked messages before moving them, one doesn't have to worry about unread
messages that already were in the folder you were moving them to.

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