Mail tracking

2008-05-21 Thread Tom

Hello Everyone,

I stumbled across this thread at Wilders 
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1245802#post1245802
dealing with the issue of some emails having secret coding included to
report back to the sender not only when the email was delivered or
read but even how long the email was open and more.

Does anybody know if this would work on TB or would TB block this
automatically? I know that I configure TB to ignore the typical
receipt confirmation or ask for permission before sending but this
type of tracking is quite devious and hidden.

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How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?

2008-05-21 Thread Brian Archer
How can I set up TheBat! so all Sent Mail is automatically moved to a Folder
and then deleted from Sent Mail?

(Specifically please). Thanks

 

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Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?

2008-05-21 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Robin,

On Tuesday, May 20, 2008, you wrote:
RA Seems to be the + on the numeric keypad only that works with this.

Ah, 64bv564s (that's obvious with my laptop's numlock on!)

Many thanks for spotting that one. I *should* have thought of that
one. Too long away from a desktop machine I suppose.

So next question: does anyone know where this shortcut is hidden? I'd
very much like to change it.

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Re: TheBat wants attention after sending a message

2008-05-21 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Thomas,

On Monday, May 19, 2008, you wrote:
ND Since upgrading to v4, I've noticed that TB!'s taskbar icon will flash
ND for attention after I've sent a message.

TF Hm, I cannot confirm.

Thanks for checking it.

ND Does anyone know of a way that I can turn this off? (I've already used
ND Powertoys to stop it grabbing focus).

TF Maybe it's Powertoys in the first place that causes this?

Nope, without powertoys TheBat annoyingly grabs focus.

Seems like another elevation in cruft* level.

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Re: Mail tracking

2008-05-21 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Tom,

on  Wed, 21 May 2008 22:26:34 +1000GMT (21.05.2008, 14:26 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

T I stumbled across this thread at Wilders
T http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1245802#post1245802
T dealing with the issue of some emails having secret coding included to
T report back to the sender not only when the email was delivered or
T read but even how long the email was open and more.

To my knowledge this will only work with HTML mails that load contents
from the web. If you stick to plain text or avoid loading content not
delivered with the mail, this cannot happen. Please CMIIW.


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Re: How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?

2008-05-21 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Brian,

on  Wed, 21 May 2008 06:22:34 -0700GMT (21.05.2008, 15:22 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

BA How can I set up TheBat! so all Sent Mail is automatically moved to a Folder
BA and then deleted from Sent Mail?

Account » Sorting Office/Filters » Outgoing Mail: create a filter with
the condition contains @ (to catch *all* mails) and the action Move
to folder name.

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Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?

2008-05-21 Thread Dave Goodman
Hello Rick,

 It's working here. You must type the first 3 letters of the name to
 trigger the list of course but then it works fine

 You can also down arrow once the list appears to the one you want

I must be missing something here. Are we talking about finding addresses
in the history list, or are we talking about multiple addresses for the
same person in the personal address book?

I have, for example, people in the address book with multiple
addresses, as in:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to auto-complete the address I want for Sam Jones, after I type in
Sam? The ctl-+ does not seem to work for this purpose. At least not
here.

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Re: Mail tracking

2008-05-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tom,

On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:26:34 +1000GMT (21-5-2008, 14:26 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

T I stumbled across this thread at Wilders
T http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1245802#post1245802
T dealing with the issue of some emails having secret coding included to
T report back to the sender not only when the email was delivered or
T read but even how long the email was open and more.

It will work with TB, depending on your security consciousness.
Basically it works by displaying an image that's stored somewhere on
the net. This example is stored at mailtracking.com, but there are
more of this kind.
When you view an HTML message in TB the Download URL Manager will pop
up. When viewing the URLs in the message it's rather easy to see
whether some tracking image is included or not. Generally they've got
odd names, the file name may even include your address, as it's used
to track your access. The real images in the message usually are
stored on the same server, whereas the tracking imag is stored on a
different server or at least a different directory on that server.
So when you're looking critically to the URLs, it's fairly easy to
recognize them and tell the download manager to block those servers.

Another method would be to view everything as plain text only.

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How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?

2008-05-21 Thread Brian Archer
Thanks for your reply.

 

However, I'm not clear on how this filter knows to move messages from the
Sent Mail folder.

I have set up a filter but the condition needs to be Sender or Recipient,
Subject, Comment, Text, or Header etc.

Which one should it be, and how does the filter know to move from the Sent
Mail folder?

Thanks.

 

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Re: How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?

2008-05-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Brian,

On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:30:23 -0700GMT (22-5-2008, 1:30 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BA I have set up a filter but the condition needs to be Sender or Recipient,
BA Subject, Comment, Text, or Header etc.

Pick the condition 'any filter'

BA Which one should it be, and how does the filter know to move from the Sent
BA Mail folder?

Use an outgoing filter, that checks against everything that's going to
the sent mail folder.


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Re: Removing Virtual Folders

2008-05-21 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Thomas,

Monday, May 19, 2008, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote:
TF Sorry, if we are talking about Common Folders and not Virtual Folders,
TF highlight the folder and use Folder / Delete from the main menu.
 Sorry but delete is greyed out in Folder/Delete from the
 main menu of three identical unnamed common folders.
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Re: Mail tracking

2008-05-21 Thread Tom

Thursday, May 22, 2008, 1:39:58 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 on  Wed, 21 May 2008 22:26:34 +1000GMT (21.05.2008, 14:26 +0200GMT here),
 you wrote:

T I stumbled across this thread at Wilders
T http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1245802#post1245802
T dealing with the issue of some emails having secret coding included to
T report back to the sender not only when the email was delivered or
T read but even how long the email was open and more.

 To my knowledge this will only work with HTML mails that load contents
 from the web. If you stick to plain text or avoid loading content not
 delivered with the mail, this cannot happen. Please CMIIW.

Does reading html emails within TB already constitute this issue or
would you have to do more to load content?


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Re: How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?

2008-05-21 Thread Christopher W .

Roelof Otten @ 2008-5-21 4:43:17 PM
How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have set up a filter but the condition needs to be Sender or
 Recipient, Subject, Comment, Text, or Header etc.

 Pick the condition 'any filter'

I think Roelof means Any Message

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Re: Mail tracking

2008-05-21 Thread Christopher W .

Tom @ 2008-5-21 9:59:42 PM
Mail tracking mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To my knowledge this will only work with HTML mails that load
 contents from the web. If you stick to plain text or avoid loading
 content not delivered with the mail, this cannot happen. Please
 CMIIW.

 Does reading html emails within TB already constitute this issue or
 would you have to do more to load content?

Since you are using version  4 (or so), you cannot load external
images unless you open the attached HTML file.

So, unless you open the HTML file, you are safe*.

In version 4, there is the Download URL Manager. You can use it to
select which images are loaded. With a little inspection, you can
usually figure out which image has the tracking code attached.

* No absolute guarantees. But, I'd put money on it.

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Accessing POP3 and IMAP4 mailboxs.

Is reading in the bathroom considered multitasking?

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