Re[3]: Some folders are slow to respond - an update

2008-07-20 Thread Code 2
 I am experiencing a curious problem.  Over the last couple weeks, some
 of my e-mail folders have gotten very sluggish.  Clicking on old or
 new mail in these folders takes a few seconds to respond (the response
 used to be instant) and deleting mail takes a few more seconds (it
 also used to be instant).

 Compressing the folders doesn't help and my hard disk has almost no
 fragmentation.  According to Maintenance Centre, no folders are
 damaged.  The problem folders are small -- fewer than 1,000 messages
 and the messages.tbb files are less than than 10MB.  Interestingly,
 folders with more than 7,000 messages and messages.tbb files of nearly
 2GB are still lightning fast.

 Is anyone else experiencing this problem?  Any solutions?


RvdH Have you tried to the messages to a new folder and see how the speed
RvdH of that new folder then is?
RvdH It may be corruption in the folder file.

RvdH And do you have messages with large attachments in the folder ?


C2 I tried copying or moving the messages to new temporary folders,
C2 deleting the old messages.tbb and .tbi files, and copying or moving
C2 the messages back.  The temporary folders containing copied messages
C2 also experienced the lag for the short time the messages were there.
C2 New, empty folders do not experience the lag when new messages are
C2 sorted into them.

C2 Interestingly, using the move function bogged down my system for
C2 hours for each folder, and I noticed in Windows Task Manager a
C2 svchost.exe process gobbling up all of my CPU resources during the
C2 move.  It's like a bigger version of the lag problem.

C2 Some of the problem folders contain modest-sized attachments, but most
C2 are mail list folders with 100 to 1,500 small, plain-text messages.  I
C2 have other folders with many large attachments, up to 10,000 messages
C2 and up to 2GB of data that do not experience this problem.

C2 The only common thread I can see among the problem folders is that the
C2 problem folders have more message deletions than the non-problem
C2 folders.  And they all started acting up within a week or so of each
C2 other.  Although I've had largely the same folder structure and
C2 sorting office filters for years, the problem has arisen only recently
C2 and since upgrading from version 2 to version 4.  If I had to guess, I
C2 would say that the compression and move functions (are they related?)
C2 in version 4 are handling the the messages.tbb and .tbi files a bit
C2 differently.  But without confirmation of this problem from others, I
C2 cannot conclude this.


Sorry for not trimming the old messages, but I wanted to keep some of
the background discussion for those not familiar with my problem.
Well, the problem does remain, but here are some observations that
might help identify the cause.  After rebooting, the afflicted folders
are as speedy as ever.  However, after reviewing and deleting a half
dozen or so new messages, the afflicted folders bog down again.

I can't be sure, but it seems like when I come to a few new messages
that contain links that try to access the Internet through the URL
Manager, that's when the problems start.  Could this be a URL Manager
issue?  Is there a way to test this?

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Re: Some folders are slow to respond - an update

2008-07-20 Thread Jens Franik

am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 um 16:57 schrieb Code 2:

 I can't be sure, but it seems like when I come to a few new messages
 that contain links that try to access the Internet through the URL
 Manager, that's when the problems start.  Could this be a URL Manager
 issue?  Is there a way to test this?

As you tell it now, i recognized too, that the loading of Links from the
URLmanager ist very slow, Messages with HTML Links need almost near 1
minute to show up at my Celeron 1400 Computer with around 500-600 Mb RAM

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Re: Some folders are slow to respond - an update

2008-07-20 Thread Rick

 am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 um 16:57 schrieb Code 2:

 I can't be sure, but it seems like when I come to a few new messages
 that contain links that try to access the Internet through the URL
 Manager, that's when the problems start.  Could this be a URL Manager
 issue?  Is there a way to test this?

 As you tell it now, i recognized too, that the loading of Links from the
 URLmanager ist very slow, Messages with HTML Links need almost near 1
 minute to show up at my Celeron 1400 Computer with around 500-600 Mb RAM

I've noticed that individual emails with external links load slowly
but not as slow as you are describing.

I clean the CACHE folder each night when I shut down.

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Re: Some folders are slow to respond - an update

2008-07-20 Thread Bill McQuillan

On Sun, 2008-07-20, Rick wrote:

 am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 um 16:57 schrieb Code 2:

 I can't be sure, but it seems like when I come to a few new messages
 that contain links that try to access the Internet through the URL
 Manager, that's when the problems start.  Could this be a URL Manager
 issue?  Is there a way to test this?

 As you tell it now, i recognized too, that the loading of Links from the
 URLmanager ist very slow, Messages with HTML Links need almost near 1
 minute to show up at my Celeron 1400 Computer with around 500-600 Mb RAM

 I've noticed that individual emails with external links load slowly
 but not as slow as you are describing.

 I clean the CACHE folder each night when I shut down.

This suddenly rings a bell!

As you can see below, I am still using a mature version of TB, but I
remember that one perennial problem that caused a slow down with TB was a
proliferation of BAT.TMP files in one or more of the TEMP folders.
This seemed to be because the  had to be unique and so TB searched
the folder to determine a value that had not been previously used. If there
were many left over BAT.TMP files that search became noticeable.
Perhaps the URL manager has a similar problem?

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Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB

2008-07-20 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Everyone,

I have just switched my Gmail setup from POP to IMAP, since I wish to 
access my mail from both Windows and Ubuntu Linux and spend time in 
both operating systems, depending upon my tasks.  I have some 
questions about setting up IMAP in TB.  I have used TB for my POP 
mailer for Gmail for several years.

When I first switched to IMAP (while leaving Gmail's POP setup 
alive as well), I used Evolution while in Linux.  I noticed that when 
a new mail arrived in the inbox, I received a notice AND when I 
selected the new mail(s) in the inbox, the text would appear almost 
immediately when the message(s) was selected.

I then installed Evolution for Windows, and it operates the same way.  
However, since I still like TB better in some ways, my next step was to set 
up my Gmail IMAP account in TB for a trial.

I have liked Gmail for IMAP (erroneous counts aside, since I do 
receive all new mail fine).  However, when a new mail(s) appears in 
the inbox, if I select it right away, the text is often not there in 
the preview pane, and I have to take time to do a folder 
synchronization.  Is there a way to have TB synchonize THAT MESSAGE 
the moment I select it?  I believe that is how Evolution is set by 
default.

In short, so far I think Evolution is easier to set up for IMAP, and 
the best settings seem to be built in as default.  In TB, the settings 
require more fine-tuning, and I am asking this list if there is a setting 
in TB that will allow me to read new incoming messages when I first 
select them?

FYI, right now, I have synchronizing set at message headers and text 
for all folders (except for All Mail and for Trash) in TB. 

A second question - if my synchronizing is set at message headers and 
text, will it also at least alert me that there is an attachment, so 
I will know to then do a full synchronization for that message?

Thank you for any help, folks. 

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Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB

2008-07-20 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Bob,
Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:58:00 PM, you wrote:

BR In TB, the settings 
BR require more fine-tuning, and I am asking this list if there is a setting 
BR in TB that will allow me to read new incoming messages when I first 
BR select them?

BR FYI, right now, I have synchronizing set at message headers and text 
BR for all folders (except for All Mail and for Trash) in TB.

You can sync full messages and I think they are faster at viewing.

BR A second question - if my synchronizing is set at message headers and 
BR text, will it also at least alert me that there is an attachment, so 
BR I will know to then do a full synchronization for that message?

The attachment shows up as it did before, but when you select it a message pops
up and asks if you want to download it now.


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