Re: Why do people stick to The Bat! when they switch to Linux?

2012-07-01 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Saturday 30 June 2012 at 6:05:28 PM, in
mid:57965611.20120630120...@jimkyle.com, Jim Kyle wrote:


 Thursday, June 28, 2012, 3:27:23 PM, you wrote:

 Are such mail clients really so poor as to merit
 keeping a Windows client on a Linux machine?

 I've not tried any of them, but for some 4 years now
 I've been running a WinXP virtual machine on one Linux
 box for the specific purpose of staying with TB! while
 going to Linux as my primary system. It works quite
 well.

I guess once you set it up and forget about it, that's simple enough,
so long as your box has sufficient resources to run a virtual machine.
I love TB! as my email client, but I was thinking such measures seem
like overkill when there are native Linux mailers available. However,
I remembered that it took me well over a year of looking around when
time permitted and trying two or three mailers at a time, then
ditching those I didn't get on with and adding a replacement, before I
settled on The Bat! as my MUA in mid-2004. So I kind of get the point.



 I do have Thunderbird installed on a separate Linux
 box, 

I've tried Thunderbird two or three times over the years, but never 
kept with it for more than a couple of days. Somehow, I was never 
comfortable with it. (-:


 and use it primarily for newsgroups 

Yes, Newsgroups was always something TB! didn't do without some form 
of Mail-to-News gateway. But it is a mail client not a news client. 
And I use mailing lists much more than newsgroups - an occasional 
visit to a web interface to read a newsgroup is not too painful.



 and
 occasionally for forwarding things to my primary Email
 account that feeds the TB! client. I find that to be
 simpler than trying to copy and paste things across my
 LAN -- it's possible, of course, but somewhat
 convoluted.

I'm not convinced it *really* is more convoluted to copy/paste across
your LAN than to run a Windows email client in a virtual machine on a
Linux box. (-;


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Re: Why do people stick to The Bat! when they switch to Linux?

2012-07-01 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA,


 and use it primarily for newsgroups 

 Yes, Newsgroups was always something TB! didn't do without some form 
 of Mail-to-News gateway. But it is a mail client not a news client. 
 And I use mailing lists much more than newsgroups - an occasional 
 visit to a web interface to read a newsgroup is not too painful.

MyGate is a great plugin for the purpose. I've been using it for years.

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Re: Why do people stick to The Bat! when they switch to Linux?

2012-07-01 Thread Jim Kyle
Sunday, July 1, 2012, 10:19:26 AM, you wrote:

 I'm not convinced it *really* is more convoluted to copy/paste across
 your LAN than to run a Windows email client in a virtual machine on a
 Linux box. (-;

Put that way, you're right. However I set up Tbird initially to follow one
semi-private newsgroup I've been with for many years, so it's just there. I
then configured its mail accounts so that it would be available as a
temporary backup in case of any problems with the VM rig, so it's a case of
using what's in place instead of setting up still more tools...

With at least two cores and 2 GB of RAM, the VM is as snappy as my older
native installs of WinXP. Actually, the box running TB! is a hyperthreaded
Pentium 4 with only one true core, but VirtualBox treats it as two...

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confirmation receipts

2012-07-01 Thread Achdut18
Hi, all,

Does The Bat have a functionality that allows a sender of a message
to receive automatic confirmation that the recipient has opened the
message?

I will occasionally receive in Outlook e-mail from colleagues, that,
when opened, also opens up a pop-up dialogue box that asks me if I
want to send confirmation of the receipt of the message to the
sender.  Does this functionality exist in The Bat or, is it even
possible to know if the message was opened without providing the
recipient the option of confirming or not confirming receipt of the
message.

I will soon be sending hold the date e-mails to a large group and
it would be nice to know which people in the group at the least, opened up the
e-mail.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

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Avram Sacks

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Re: confirmation receipts

2012-07-01 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, July 2, 2012, 2:13:18 PM, you wrote:

A Hi, all,

A Does The Bat have a functionality that allows a sender of a message
A to receive automatic confirmation that the recipient has opened the
A message?

A I will occasionally receive in Outlook e-mail from colleagues, that,
A when opened, also opens up a pop-up dialogue box that asks me if I
A want to send confirmation of the receipt of the message to the
A sender.  Does this functionality exist in The Bat or, is it even
A possible to know if the message was opened without providing the
A recipient the option of confirming or not confirming receipt of the
A message.

A I will soon be sending hold the date e-mails to a large group and
A it would be nice to know which people in the group at the least, opened up 
the
A e-mail.

A Thanks for any help you can provide.



Account - Properties - Templates - New message

At foot of window you can tick:

Receipt Request

Reading Confirmation

Note also that as an individual user you can set it to ignore such
requests from senders:

Account - Properties - Templates - Reading Confirmation - Ignore


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Re: confirmation receipts

2012-07-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Achdut18,

On Sunday, July 01, 2012 you wrote:

A Hi, all,

A Does The Bat have a functionality that allows a sender of a message
A to receive automatic confirmation that the recipient has opened the
A message?

A I will occasionally receive in Outlook e-mail from colleagues, that,
A when opened, also opens up a pop-up dialogue box that asks me if I
A want to send confirmation of the receipt of the message to the
A sender.  Does this functionality exist in The Bat or, is it even
A possible to know if the message was opened without providing the
A recipient the option of confirming or not confirming receipt of the
A message.

A I will soon be sending hold the date e-mails to a large group and
A it would be nice to know which people in the group at the least, opened up 
the
A e-mail.

A Thanks for any help you can provide.


At the bottom of the editor screen you should see 3 icons to the right of your
language selection. The one on the far right is the request reading confirmation
icon.

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Jack LaRosa
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