Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 you wrote:

M> Hello MAU,

 Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have 
 worked in
 this case.
>>>
>>> OK,  in  the  case you mention to Tomas, select the Advanced search on
>>> the right, instead of Simple and then:
>>>
>>> Text - starts with - onco
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> Message  source  - starts with - onco  (if you want to include headers
>>> in the search).
>>
>> NO,  that would not work. It would only work if Text or Message source
>> would *start with* onco. Sorry, I apologise for "thinking" too fast.

M> Ok, I think it may be much simpler that I thought.

M> Try: Any part - contains - " onco" (without the quotes but with the
M> leading space). I think this would only fail if 'onco...' was the
M> first word of a line.

In addition to finding out that the above didn't work I also am plagued with
search returns which have no match to the search string anywhere .

As an experiment I just did a search: ANY PART - CONTAINS - pun and received 346
messages which ostensibly contain the string "pun". In examining them I find 
most
DO NOT contain the string "pun". Not in the body or in the header. Why?

I just did another search: HEADER - CONTAINS - pun. 115 messages returned and
the few I looked at did not have the string "pun" in the header. Again why?

I am giving TB! the benefit of the doubt here and assume I just don't understand
something, but I do it grudgingly.

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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 you wrote:

M> Hello MAU,

 Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have 
 worked in
 this case.
>>>
>>> OK,  in  the  case you mention to Tomas, select the Advanced search on
>>> the right, instead of Simple and then:
>>>
>>> Text - starts with - onco
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> Message  source  - starts with - onco  (if you want to include headers
>>> in the search).
>>
>> NO,  that would not work. It would only work if Text or Message source
>> would *start with* onco. Sorry, I apologise for "thinking" too fast.

M> Ok, I think it may be much simpler that I thought.

M> Try: Any part - contains - " onco" (without the quotes but with the
M> leading space). I think this would only fail if 'onco...' was the
M> first word of a line.

Tried it early on in the search. Alas, no cigar.

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Jack LaRosa
Central Alabama USA

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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

>>> Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have 
>>> worked in
>>> this case.
>>
>> OK,  in  the  case you mention to Tomas, select the Advanced search on
>> the right, instead of Simple and then:
>>
>> Text - starts with - onco
>>
>> or
>>
>> Message  source  - starts with - onco  (if you want to include headers
>> in the search).
>
> NO,  that would not work. It would only work if Text or Message source
> would *start with* onco. Sorry, I apologise for "thinking" too fast.

Ok, I think it may be much simpler that I thought.

Try: Any part - contains - " onco" (without the quotes but with the
leading space). I think this would only fail if 'onco...' was the
first word of a line.

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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

>> Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have 
>> worked in
>> this case.
>
> OK,  in  the  case you mention to Tomas, select the Advanced search on
> the right, instead of Simple and then:
>
> Text - starts with - onco
>
> or
>
> Message  source  - starts with - onco  (if you want to include headers
> in the search).

NO,  that would not work. It would only work if Text or Message source
would *start with* onco. Sorry, I apologise for "thinking" too fast.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain)
Using The Bat! v7.4.16
My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com
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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread MAU
Hello Jack,

> Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have worked 
> in
> this case.

OK,  in  the  case you mention to Tomas, select the Advanced search on
the right, instead of Simple and then:

Text - starts with - onco

or

Message  source  - starts with - onco  (if you want to include headers
in the search).

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain)
Using The Bat! v7.4.16
My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com
My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com




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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> If I initiate a simple search: ANY PART - CONTAINS - onco, how do I prevent 
>> the
>> search from finding things like "concord".

M> On  the same search window, click on the Advanced tab and select/tick "Search
M> for whole words only".

Thanks MAU but as you'll see in my reply to Thomas, that wouldn't have worked in
this case.

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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 23:30:55 -0500 GMT (03/09/2017, 11:30 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Hello Thomas,

>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 you wrote:

TF>>> Hello Jack,

TF>>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 17:47:22 -0500 GMT (03/09/2017, 05:47 +0700 GMT),
TF>>> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 Hello TBUDL'ers,

 If I initiate a simple search: ANY PART - CONTAINS - onco, how do I 
 prevent the
 search from finding things like "concord".

TF>>> Try this:

TF>>> Contains: onco
TF>>> AND
TF>>> Doesn't match: concord

>> Logically, that looks like it would work. But, what if there's a "concordia" 
>> in
>> the email? I hope that's a valid question 'cause I'm so sleepy I'm having
>> trouble keeping my eyes open.

TF> So, onco and concordia should be found, but concord not?

No, as it turns out I'm beginning to realize that there may not be a solution
for this *exact* situation. I actually found the email in question by specifying
a date range (resulting in a much smaller number of hits) and then looking at
all that returned from the search. Examining *that* email I saw that "onco" was
a part of a string something like "oncomedicine". Knowing that, I asked myself
how I could have set up the search parameters to have found only the email which
contained "oncomedicine while still searching only for "onco".

TF> Is  this  a  real-life  question,  or is it theoretical? I am thinking
TF> about a solution.

It was a real-life question, but the solution could/would be used in future
searches.

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Re: Search question

2017-09-03 Thread MAU
Hello Jack,

> If I initiate a simple search: ANY PART - CONTAINS - onco, how do I prevent 
> the
> search from finding things like "concord".

On  the same search window, click on the Advanced tab and select/tick "Search
for whole words only".

-- 
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Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain)
Using The Bat! v7.4.16
My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com
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