Re: Digest (02/14/2000 06:00) (#2000-386)
Hey list, I no longer participate in the list because of the flame wars instigated by Steve Lamb. I peruse the digest on occasion, but he has certainly turned me off of the program. His attitude of "If you don't like it, go elsewhere", certainly must be affecting RIT Labs' sales. Best Regards, Derek In response to your message fromSunday, February 13, 2000, 6:01:05 PM: list (#2000-386) - Topics This Issue: list 1) Steve Lamb list 2) Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ? list -- list Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:50:48 -0500 list From: Paula Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Subject: Steve Lamb list Hello Owners, list I ask you to please review Steve Lamb's latests "contributions" to list the TBUDL, particularly in the thread "Why not highlighting the newest list message in the folder?" list Not only does Mr. Lamb provoke flame wars, which involve personal list insults and language that I feel has no place on a mailing list like list this one, but he sets a tone for the list that is sure to intimidate, if list not scare off, all but the hardiest of people or those numb to the ways list of Usenet or worse, those that actually enjoy that type of nonsense. I list personally know of people who have left the list, because they are list grown-ups who simply don't have time for this kind of Internet BS. list Note that the person who originated the "highlighting the newest list message" said nothing further. If you review Mr. Lamb's postings to the list list, you'll find that that is a pattern, no doubt intended by himself. list If someone does dare to disagree with his views, he immediately turns list nasty and resorts to childish namecalling. I'd also like to point out list that Mr. Lamb very rarely provides any assistance. In most Internet list venues, such behavior would classify him as a troll. Morevover, many of list his posts to the list explicitly violate the list rules and guidelines. list Some long-time users of the list have developed an amused tolerance for list Mr. Lamb and his ways; others have him in their kill filter. But, I ask list you to consider the overall effect that he has on the list and, list particularly on newcomers, as he doesn't hesitate to turn his vitriole list on an innocent first-time poster. list I assume that we all have the best interest of RIT Labs and TB at heart. list A small-time program, like TB, can benefit greatly from creating a sense list of community among its users, and this is probably the greatest service list TBUDL provides - or could provide. Mr. Lamb, unfortunately, undermines list that sense of community. In fact, I feel that as long as Mr. Lamb is list left to his own devices, TBUDL is likely doing TB more harm than good. list Trolls deserve the death penalty, IMO, especially when they persist in list behavior, despite warnings. But, perhaps you could banish him to the TB list beta list, where he can argue all he wants about "new" features with a list more limited group of long-time users. list I would appreciate your letting me know if you're not going to do list anything about Mr. Lamb, because I find it painful to watch how he list treats people and will have to leave the list. It was rather nice when list he was on vacation, but now my tolerance of him is even less after the list refreshing, but all too brief, respite. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: OT: Newsreaders (Was Re: Usenet - Batology)
Hello Tony, Okay okay, you got me ;) I forget about offline reading now that I have ADSL :) Best regards, Derek In response to your message fromWednesday, February 02, 2000, 3:05:52 AM: Tony This message: 02/02/2000 08:04 GMT. Tony Hello cid, Tony Tuesday, February 01, 2000, 5:47:21 PM, you wrote: cin It's got scoring, filtering, smart binary downloads, you name it. Tony Off line reading ?? -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Mark, I agree with you mark. I REALLY like TB from the short time I've used it. And planned to complete my migration from Pegasus Mail shortly... I don't like do-all apps. I use Xnews for news, and Opera for web browsing, and wanted to use TB for email. They should only be integrated in as far as the ability to send a system call which calls the program (i.e. pull up the other program for a news:// a mailto: or a http:// doubleclick) And it should be customizable so you can put ANY program in their with it. I guess the masses want bundled apps. I hate 'em. I'm mad at opera for considering an email client and an improved newsreader. Can't they just stick at what they are good at? Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 6:59:11 PM: MA Hi Steve, MA Monday, January 10, 2000, 11:45:12 PM, you wrote: SL Monday, January 10, 2000, 3:30:32 PM, Mark wrote: Gone:-( SL And this is supposed to mean, what, exactly? MA Basically I got more depressed with every item of that interview, I MA really like The Bat! as it is and would hate to see it become a MA bloated "do it all" type app, I suppose there is the option of MA staying with a version 1.xx? but that does not really appeal. Any MA suggestions for another Windows MUA that come close to TB, as it MA is now? -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Mark, *exactly* Derek Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 8:06:44 PM: MA Hi Steve, MA Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:28:21 AM, you wrote: but that does not really appeal. Any suggestions for another Windows MUA that come close to TB, as it is now? SL PMMail? *shrug* MA Yes ,exactly a choice of one, TB really cannot compete with the "all MA in one " no-brainer LookOut type appz they should stick with what they MA are good at, they have a niche market of users who appreciate a mostly MA RFC compliant client which does not attempt to be "all things to all MA people". If you try to do that you end up with the lowest common MA denominator, and might as well use LookOut. I appreciate that RIT are MA a business, and should try to maximize their user base, but they are MA on a hiding to nothing competing with LookOut and Eudora so they MA would be better off keeping their niche market happy (i.e. most people MA on this list). Their "natural" market is the new Linux user looking MA for something more friendly than Fetchmail/Sendmail et al, as you have MA pointed out in the past there is nothing currently in Linux that meets MA the needs of a user with multiple ISP accounts. XFMail comes close but MA the interface needs work, and xforms are not Open Source AFAIK. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Jason, Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 9:25:00 PM: JT Hello Steve and Bat Buddies, JT Usenet, on the other hand...Well, I know none of the technical aspects JT of Usenet, but I've seen that MS Outlook smoothly integrates news and JT mail into one client. I've always liked Outlook for that, although JT that's the only thing. :) So, it seems to me that usenet shouldn't be JT too much to add to TB. And if TB v2.0 has usenet in plugin form, then of JT course you can just unload the plugin if you wish! I dunno...I don't think it integrates well, but that's my opinion. Try a power-newsreader like Xnews http://xnews.3dnews.net you might start thinking differently about newsreaders JT Well, you're right on that point. I can see how you would be concerned. JT Let's just hope that TB v2.0 meets everyone's standards, preferably JT exceed them. Agreed, however, I was anxiously awaiting the V2.X beta, now I'm nervously awaiting it. Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Paul, Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 10:31:21 PM: P I don't need a Gravity replacement, just an excellent email program P that can post to newsgroups when needed and run local newsgroups via P its own internal server. Really, try to give Xnews a try. I think you'll like it: http://xnews.3dnews.net In my personal usage, I find that I use Email and Newsgroups *so* differently, that I can't even see the synergy anymore. My newsreader writes like an email program, and everything gets kept in there. Even better, my newsreader keeps public (postings) and private (email's) sending addresses, allowing me to post and be spam free. I rarely post personal replies to newsgroups, but when I do, I can cc: myself, to keep a copy on my email program, and then the replies come in through email. That's the way I prefer it... P Plus read the HTML of a large number of newsletters by email. I'm torn by this. I hate bloat, but I'll concede the need for HTML reading (at least in part) simply because it's becoming part of the times. P Ducks the flak! g Cooks Ducks Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Steve, *ACK* You mean we agreed? ;) Derek Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 11:32:06 PM: SL Monday, January 10, 2000, 7:55:48 PM, Derek wrote: I guess the masses want bundled apps. I hate 'em. I'm mad at opera for considering an email client and an improved newsreader. Can't they just stick at what they are good at? SL You and me both. I don't mind them doing operamail.com, but having the SL integrated "clients" was a bit much. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello John, Written in response to your letter of Monday, January 10, 2000, 10:46:37 PM: [SNIP] JS ii) I occasionally have need to approve news postings on a private moderated JS newsgroup. Since these arrive via mail, it would be nice to be able to JS inject them into the news system directly rather than cut'n'paste into JS a separate newsreader. I'm not sure about the technology here, but can it be done by an additional X:header, or whatever. I've never programmed email clients or otherwise, but I thought you could post to a newsgroup if you just got the header right...at least, that's one way I used to do it in college. So, ideally, couldn't they just add a newsgroups header, and meet your needs? It could be in the "View" pull down menu as being "toggle-able" (like that word? :) -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Import from PEGASUS 3.11
Hello Marek, I did it from 3.12b...worked great. It didn't bring in trays, but all the folders made it. Derek Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 5:11:22 AM: MM Hello, MM Tried somebody import messages from PEGASUS 3.11 by IMPORT WIZARD? -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Pegasus vs. The Bat!
Hello Alexander, Pretty much the same reason I'm here too. I like the features of pegasus, but the features of the bat as well. I'm pretty torn on the two programs. And for what it's worth...even with Pegasus at 4.5 MB or whatever it is, it is the fastest mail system I've ever used. Faster than TB! Faster than Pocomail, and all the MS products...So you can have features without dragging the program down to MS or Netscape type bloat. Derek Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:50:09 PM: AVK Hi there! AVK On 7 Jan 00, at 10:52, Steve Lamb wrote AVK about "Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!": Quite frankly, if Alex is happy with Pegasus and how it works, all the power to him. Why he is still on TB! mailing list is beyond me since it clearly doesn't work in the manner he chooses. AVK Right now I'm only waiting for the first 2.x beta. If it doesn't support MIME AVK functionality in full as versions 1.x do, I will *clearly* unsubscribe. That is, if AVK the overall concept of TB and the way it's implemented remains the same, I AVK would clearly prefer Pegasus. Besides, it's free. Not the last reason for me to AVK decide. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Pegasus vs. The Bat!
Hello Steve, I still think the way to do this is to keep account seperate...but just have "Global filters" that work an all accounts or a subset of accounts. In fact, that almost goes against bloat...because you wouldn't have to run duplicate filters ever. (This is of course particular to my situation where I have two email accounts that I filter similarly) This wouldn't be a paradigm shift, this wouldn't mean a massive restructuring of TB! Derek Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 1:52:50 PM: SL Friday, January 07, 2000, 10:33:32 AM, Allie wrote: a) Add new email address to existing account. b) Create new Account How is adding the a) option to go along with the already existing b) option a paradigm shift? :) SL Because it requires merging the streams and requires either a lot more SL macros or TB! implementing "personalities", IE, detecting which account the SL message was sent to and using that account to send out on. How would that SL interact with the current system? What would happen if I drag a message from SL one account to another to force the issue of a change? Will it overrride SL that? SL The two paradigms, "personalities" and separate accounts, combined, has SL never been done. How is that not a different paradigm? insist on managing entirely different accounts in different instances/windows or otherwise offer multiple personalities and multiple e-mail addresses per account support instead. SL Exactly the problem. It is rare to find it done right because programmers SL just can't grasp the basic concept. However, sometimes, things get too cut and dry and the application becomes tedious to use. SL Granted. However, I find "cut and dry" tedious easier to deal with than SL the "constant codling of user-created problems" tedious. The former, at SL least, I can automate to suit my tastes based on tools available to me to make SL them less tedious. The latter I have to somehow undo automatic behavior. It SL is easier to automate than it is to unautomate. There must be an optimum balance between user facilitation, keeping in mind that users do things differently, code quantity, and trying to make the various provided tools not too specialized to facilitate a particular need. SL There is. Users do do things differently, that is why there should be SL different, specialized products. No one product will ever be everything to SL everyone. I would be tickled pink if we could get the computer industry to SL agree to completely open standards on data transfer and then let the SL components be completely interchangeable. With that we could have authors SL focus on one thing without having to worry about integration. I'd love to see SL a TB!/PMMail style email client that did not implement a text editor and spell SL checker but, instead, just game the individual hooks for external tools and SL left it at that. Why? Then they could focus on the client and not the SL completely separate products of "specialized text editor" and "specialized SL spell checker." If that were the case I bet we'd have killer IMAP support SL already in TB!. SL Quite frankly, if Alex is happy with Pegasus and how it works, all SL the power to him. Why he is still on TB! mailing list is beyond me since it SL clearly doesn't work in the manner he chooses. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
Hello Januk, EXCELLENT COMPROMISE! I love the idea. (note, that's not yelling, that's cheering ;) Derek Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 9:10:38 PM: JA Hello Steve, JA Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:32:14 PM, you wrote: JA snip a overly long and pointless argument OK. I'd like to request a reduction in options so the options which are really important, instead of user coddling, I can continue to find in future versions. Thanks. ;P JA It would appear to me that people are not seeing the obvious. There JA is a way to fill both needs, and that's through the appropriate use of JA plug ins. When implemented correctly, you can offer lots of choice JA and customization, while keeping the "core" program to a minimum. JA Some people want handy little reminders, it would be nice to be able JA to go download a little package that adds those reminders. JA Don't want that? Don't download the package. Just like the JA international language pack right now. As I understand it, RIT has JA already said that in V2, they will support plug ins. So what more do JA we need? JA There is only one pitfall that I hope RIT avoids. In MS Excel, the JA Plug-ins come WITH the program, but you have to MANUALLY select them. JA That's pointless IMO. Then you have to do work AND you get a bloated JA program. JA Ok, fine, I'll add one more pitfall, hopefully RIT allows other JA companies to develop plug ins as well. Personally, I would like to JA see a program that can view HTML documents with inline links, but I JA understand that this is NOT a widely held wish. So a plug in would be JA perfect. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Enough already (Was: Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!)
Hello Steve, Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 6:25:47 PM: SNIP SL Hey, lemme ask this, honestly. How many people saw me say that having the SL option to apply filters to all accounts would be a good thing? I bet not SL many. I sure didn't, it was hard to read that through all the: "You suck, leave my client alone" speeches! :) SL It only takes silence or a few words to agree. It takes a few paragraphs SL to disagree. Because of that a person who is vocal, especially on forums like SL this, is going to tend to be regarded as negative because most of what they SL say will be negative. Well, it's more than just your disagreement...it's the manner in which you disagree. I'm glad you think you're my priest...but yer not! :) SL Personally, I do think global filters would be a good thing. There are SL several ways I've thought of implementing them. The main problem to them is SL ordering. The easiest way to get around that which might work for all would SL be to have a global filter dialog that lets you make those filters and then SL specify where the local filters will apply in them. They would need macros, SL of course, but once you get down to it TB! would really be nice if it shipped SL with 4 global filters from the start, 1 of which would be disabled. SL 4 global filters would match the 4 most common ways that mailing lists SL identify themselves. They use regex, place the mailing list name into the SL first regex register and would filter into "[account]/Mailing Lists/\1". This SL means that any time people joined a new list they would automatically be SL filtered for them. That would be okay...but what if everyone didn't want this. I would prefer a FAQ for setting up a mailing list filter. For my low-traffic mailing lists, that I want them in the inbox. For massive traffic, like TB, I'll have my own folder. Mailing lists, I find, are generally kept in a very personal manner. Everyone's different! But it's a good suggestion... I might keep this filter off unless requested also. SL The other two filters would be spam filters that they would have to turn SL on after reading an explanation of how it works and is based on the SL spam-filtering I've recommended here before that Allie just recently SL recounted. The first filter would use a macro to see if the local account SL address is in the to or cc and stops filtering. The last filter just moves SL everything into a Potential Spam folder. That seems like a pretty good idea...I could see this causing problems though, in people that just read to quickly and click "Filter Spam". Then everyone starts complaining about not getting messages becuase they didn't understand the filter or tailor it correctly. Back to the idea of plug-ins, wouldn't it be good to have downloadable filters? Maybe they already are...(I'm a TB newbie, remember! :) But if advanced users could download and trade, etc *.flt files, or something like that, it would be pretty cool. SL Finally, they would be ordered in the global dialog like this: SL 4 mailing list filters SL local filters SL 2 spam filters. Makes sense to me. SL So the 4 mailing list filters would run, then local filters, then spam SL filters after the local filters. This setup would most likely cover ~95% of SL the filters that the majority of the people would ever set up. SL Now, to contrast this back to some of the ideas that I bash. A reminder SL for subject being blank. Yay, limited use and something the person can SL confirm for themselves. Agreed, but if it can be done very succinctly, with virtually no added code (Pmail does it, and as I said is the fastes email program I've ever used) then it's worth looking into. If it made the program take an extra 60 seconds...that's one thing. But it wouldn't be any different then the "Confirm Send immediately" option. Now that one, I think is *really* silly. I wouldn't click send if I didn't want to. SL Switching TB! around to use personalities. Use SL another product. Etc, etc, etc... SL Usually the items that I bash I do so because they are of limited use to SL the vast majority of people and are also of limited power. Regex most people SL won't use, but those that do, trust me, appreciate it greatly. IMAP may not SL be in use by as many people as POP, but if it were done right those who use it SL would push it to the limits. Those are power features that attract and keep SL power users. Most of the features I bash are fluff, pure and simple. Unfortunately, the way you present your argument has very little to do with other people though, and more to do with your *own* personal use. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL
OT: Windows Recycle Bin Was (Re[2]: Enough already)
Hello Allie, Right click on Recycle Bin Bottom of Global Tab, click "Display delete confirmation dialog box" so that it is unchecked. Your confirmation should be gone. HTH, Derek Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 9:47:45 PM: AM On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:31:39 -0500, Derek Cedillo wrote: AM [..snip..] No, MicroSoft product *tells* you what you want. They never ask. 90% of the people I work with complain regularly about MS and how they added features that they never need. The difference here is, we are asking for features, or at least an investigation into them. Most importantly, we aren't asking you. AM But the features in MS products are indeed asked for. It's just AM that the userbase is so vast that it's hardly likely that every new AM feature that is added will be something that you had thought about and AM needed. AM Apart from bugginess, the excessive helpers for novices in Windows AM with no means of disabling them, get in my way to no end. Novices remain AM novices only for a time and therefore one should be able to disable all AM these reminders, helpers and wizards or not have them there at all. One AM annoying example is deleting. In order to bypass the recycle bin, I use AM Shift+Del. Funny, when I press Shift+Del, a popup message still comes up AM asking if I wish to delete to the recycle bin. I have to say no to that, AM hit Shift+Del *again* to deal with another popup confirmation *again* AM before I get to bypass the recycle bin. Thank goodness for Enriva AM Voyager. I hit Shift+Del and the file/s/folder is gone. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Send from account (was:Re[2]: Pegasus vs. The Bat!)
Hello Thomas,, 2000, 1:33:08 AM, you wrote: TF Hi Steve, TF On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:19:59 -0800GMT (06/01/2000, 03:19 +0800GMT), TF Steve Lamb wrote: 3. Changing "Send from account..." Is there a more visible way to do this? SL Yes, click on the account before sending. ;) TF Or enable View/From in the editor window. That's what I do. If you TF don't like what you see, you can easily change "from" address by TF eitehr clicking on that little arrow on the right-hand edge of thje TF "from" line, or by using Options/Active Account. Thanks, I found that this morning as well! Noticed it on a screenshot finally. Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Auto Formatting
Thanks for all the help on my other questions...and yet I still have more! I'm not sure if it's the Auto-Format, I'm having problems with, or what...but in anycase, the problem has been that when I reply to someone, some of my text gets mingled with their replies! I've had this happen two or three times now... any ideas? Is this a known bug? Here's an example: cin I was wondering if there are some of my text gets mixed with any cin other ways to send a message. I click "Ctrl-Enter" to send my cin message.their replies!!! Best regards, Derek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: default e-mail address
Hello Lone-Wolf, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 8:29:48 AM, you wrote: LW Hello Bat, LW Is there any way to have a default e-mail address for a folder? LWFor instance I highlight the folder where I store all messages on LW The Bat mailing list, and want to send a new message to this group. LW The list.owner@...etc. is to go automatically in the "To:" field. I think this will work: Right click on the folder, select Properties, and go to Identity. (HTH, and this is only my second day using the program ;) Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Massive Download Message Size bug
Hello TBUDL, I sent myself a couple of large messages yesterday from work...one a 1.8 MB file, and the other a 7.8 MB file (Don't worry, I have ADSL ;) In anycase, the 1.8MB file downloaded okay...the 7.8MB file would crash TB with an out of memory error. I tried this 5 times, and got the same error. The error wasn't in the downloading,b ut came when the progress box would say: "Importing messages" Any ideas? This would be a major flaw...I send large files back and forth from work alot. Also, even though the 1.8 MB file downloaded okay...it takes a long time to show up in the preview pane...was that because I had the "Store attachments in message bodies" checked? I've unchecked it, but haven't tested it since. Thanks, Derek -- Best regards, Derek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: default e-mail address
Hello Lone-Wolf, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 9:29:18 AM, you wrote: LW Hello Derek, LW Friday, January 07, 2000, 12:33:36 AM, you wrote: DC Hello Lone-Wolf, DC Thursday, January 06, 2000, 8:29:48 AM, you wrote: LW Hello Bat, LW Is there any way to have a default e-mail address for a folder? LWFor instance I highlight the folder where I store all messages on LW The Bat mailing list, and want to send a new message to this group. LW The list.owner@...etc. is to go automatically in the "To:" field. DC I think this will work: DC Right click on the folder, select Properties, and go to Identity. DC (HTH, and this is only my second day using the program ;) DC Derek LW Thanks, but that only establishes, as far as I know, an identity for LW mail sent from that folder, but not a default address to send it to. My mistake, I read to fast, I thought you wrote a default From: tag. Sorry! Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Wishlist: Multiple accounts filter was: Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat
Hello Alexander, Written in response to your letter of Thursday, January 06, 2000, 6:43:06 PM: AVK Hi there! AVK On 6 Jan 00, at 15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote AVK about "Re[2]: Pegasus vs. The Bat!": So let me get this straight... TB!'s filters only work on a particular account? AVK So now you got the whole idea:-) *I* don't like it, and the AVK reasoning is the following: I've got this account (it's UUCP AVK one), which I *do* prefer to usefor [filtering process snipped] AVK So *I* would suggest that the "identities" feature be supported AVK by TB, too. It has proved to be extremely useful for *me* in AVK Pegasus, and I don't see a *working* workaround in TB currently. I think that the current way is okay, as long as you had a way to bridge all accounts. Should seem that it would be nice to have a little check box: Apply to all accounts AVK I'd prefer some way to set up "subaccounts" that would differ *only* in the AVK POP3/SMTP settings (and probably a few another, like Reply-To: address AVK etc.) and that would share the *same* folder hierarchy. Consider this as a AVK possible wishlist item. We can discuss it here, if you want. *If* there exists AVK some way to set it up without this, I'll take it back:-) I would prefer the option to select Apply to all accounts for each filter...or even better...a checkbox of accounts to apply to. For example: Apply to the following accounts: [X] Main account [ ] Account 2 [ ] Account 3 Where the default account checked is the folder you create the filter in, but you can select any others. Then when you are in any folder affected by that account, you can affect the filter for all accounts still! Derek -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Massive Download Message Size bug
Hello Syafril, Well, I just tried it now... sending a 7.7MB File to myself...TB! ended up hanging my whole system. I'm using Win98 on a Celeron 300 with about 500 MB free on the disk drive, 64 MB RAM... Derek Written in response to your letter of Thursday, January 06, 2000, 10:52:42 PM: SH Hello Derek Cedillo, SH On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 at 22:35:45 GMT -0500 [Friday, January 07, 2000 SH 10:35 GMT +0700], you told to the list: DC I sent myself a couple of large messages yesterday from work...one DC a 1.8 MB file, and the other a 7.8 MB file (Don't worry, I have DC ADSL ;) DC In anycase, the 1.8MB file downloaded okay...the 7.8MB file would DC crash TB with an out of memory error. I tried this 5 times, and DC got the same error. The error wasn't in the downloading,b ut came DC when the progress box would say: "Importing messages" SH I am sending 7.2 MB attachment just now, and receiving 7.6 MB SH this morning, no problem. DC Any ideas? This would be a major flaw...I send large files back DC and forth from work alot. SH What's your O/S ? DC Also, even though the 1.8 MB file downloaded okay...it takes a long DC time to show up in the preview pane...was that because I had the DC "Store attachments in message bodies" checked? I've unchecked it, but DC haven't tested it since. SH My setting : Attachment are store separate from messages in special SH directory. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Leif, Written in response to your letter of Thursday, January 06, 2000, 5:24:57 PM: LG Hello users, LG Now to tease you all some... LG Version 2.x is gonna wipe the walls with the other e-mail software LG currently out there (including TB v1.x!) Can you tease us even a bit more...perhaps by telling us a ballpark of it's release (how about just narrowing it down to a quarter of the year at least? :) Thanks! Derek -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
