from:"Chris"


Hello Jernej,

On Saturday, June 25, 2022,  you wrote:

JS> On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:25:45, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in 
>> the current database is ridiculous

JS> 152 GB here…

That's an amazing amount of mail, people must either really love you or really 
hate you :)






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Re[2]: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?

Hello Jernej,

On Saturday, June 25, 2022,  you wrote:

JS> On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:24:27, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> Thanks Jernej and MAU, that's remarkable, I never thought that would still 
>> be an option. I really do like my threading lines :)

JS> You'll probably also like the option next to it - "Use denser display of 
items" :)

I do indeed like that original look. If only it could take me back in time, 
too :) Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving



Hello Tom,

On Saturday, June 25, 2022,  you wrote:

T> Hello Everyone,

T> my TB has grown over the years and the backup files are now more than 
T>  gb in size.
T> I would like to tidy up a bit without messing up everything.

T> My idea is to create new Archive folders and then moving older emails into 
these archive folders. 
T> Can I then remove these completely to a different harddrive/backup storage 
in case I ever need them again? 
T> Currently my mail directory is at on my OS drive at %APPDATA%\The Bat!\

Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in 
the current database is ridiculous....









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Re[2]: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?

Hello MAU,

On Friday, June 24, 2022,  you wrote:

M> Hello Chris,

>> Only disappointment so far is that in my preferred threaded view
>> mode the interconnecting lines between messages have gone and are
>> replaced by arrows and unmarked indents. I do not suppose there's a
>> way of getting the thread lines back is there? 

M> As you can see in my signature below, I am using V9. But I think it is 
M> just the same in v10.

M> From the top menu, select Options/Preferences/Other Options and tick  
M> Display "old style" lines in tree views.

Thanks Jernej and MAU, that's remarkable, I never thought that would still be 
an option. I really do like my threading lines :)

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Re[2]: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?

2022-06-24 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Jernej,

On Friday, June 24, 2022,  you wrote:

JS> On Friday, June 24, 2022, 11:33:33, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> Silly me, the 30 day trial offer is prominent on the Ritlabs home page, my 
>> apologies. But what's the difference between the auto updating versions and 
>> the none auto updating ones please?

JS> Auto-updating version will update itself automatically in the background 
(similar to how most browsers update), while the regular version requires you 
to update it manually whenever a new release is made.

>> Is there much to importing a very large message and attachment base from 
>> this v5.8.10 version to the current one along with my filters, address book 
>> and Sorting Office settings?

JS> Make a backup first (in case you decide to return to older version), but 
other than that, the new version should import the old messages and filters 
automatically.

As my sig hopefully shows I got v10.0.10 working. The only issue is it saw 
duplicates (which really existed) in my address book, but the Bat! splash 
screen hid the overwrite confirmation box and I had to keep using Task Manager 
to get rid of the main splash screen to enable each confirmation. I deleted all 
the duplicates in the end, and it has calmed down now :)

Only disappointment so far is that in my preferred threaded view mode the 
interconnecting lines between messages have gone and are replaced by arrows and 
unmarked indents. I do not suppose there's a way of getting the thread lines 
back is there? 

I have the message bases on my D: drive at D:\TB_Mail, and the basic TB! files 
at C:\TheBat I installed V10 in the same C:\TheBat directory as the old one, 
can I, once happy with V10, just delete the older files in there?

Thanks again.

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Re: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?

2022-06-24 Thread Chris Wilson



Hello Chris,

On Friday, June 24, 2022,  you wrote:



CW> 24 June 2022



CW> I can't decide if I should abandon GMAIL or update my legacy TB!
CW> version to the current one. I am getting a bit old to learn a new
CW> interface, and it were not for GMAIL playing   silly beggars I'd
CW> be quite content with this v5.8.10

CW> Can I download v10* and try it first? Thanks.




Silly me, the 30 day trial offer is prominent on the Ritlabs home page, my 
apologies. But what's the difference between the auto updating versions and the 
none auto updating ones please?

Is there much to importing a very large message and attachment base from this 
v5.8.10 version to the current one along with my filters, address book and 
Sorting Office settings?

Thanks.



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Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?

2022-06-24 Thread Chris Wilson




24 June 2022



I can't decide if I should abandon GMAIL or update my legacy TB! version to the 
current one. I am getting a bit old to learn a new interface, and it were not 
for GMAIL playing   silly beggars I'd be quite content with this v5.8.10

Can I download v10* and try it first? Thanks.

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Is my legacy TB! version usable with the upcoming Google security changes please?

2022-04-29 Thread Chris Wilson

29 April 2022

Good afternoon all, today I received this message from Google. I use an elderly
version of The Bat! and need to know if I can still use it when Google
implement these security changes, as I have one GMAIL account I use TB! for,
thanks. I am using v5.8.10 on Windows 7 64 bit Pro. Is such an elderly version
still painlessly upgradeable to the current one if required?

>From Google today:

To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the use of
third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account
using only your username and password. Instead, you’ll need to sign in
using Sign in with Google
<https://accounts.google.com/AccountChooser?Email=dead.f...@gmail.com=https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/112802?rfn%3D1651110186525%26anexp%3Dnret-fa>
or other more secure technologies, like OAuth 2.0. Learn more
<https://accounts.google.com/AccountChooser?Email=dead.f...@gmail.com=https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?rfn%3D1651110186525%26anexp%3Dnret-fa>
--
*What do you need to do?*

*Email software, like Outlook 2016 or earlier,* has less secure access to
your Gmail. Switch to Office 365, Outlook 2019 or newer, or any other email
software where you can sign in using *Sign in with Google*.
Learn more
<https://accounts.google.com/AccountChooser?Email=dead.f...@gmail.com=https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?rfn%3D1651110186525%26anexp%3Dnret-fa>
You received this email to let you know about important changes to your
Google Account and services.
© 2022 Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA

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Re[2]: Sig cutoff

2019-09-03 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, September 3, 2019,  you wrote:

TF> Hello Thomas,

TF> On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 20:09:05 +0700 GMT (03-Sep-19, 20:09 +0700 GMT),
TF> Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> Hello jb,

>> On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 09:26:45 +0100 GMT (03-Sep-19, 15:26 +0700 GMT),
>> jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote:

>>> Hello Thomas Fernandez,

>>> On Monday, September 2, 2019, 2:28:46 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>>>> Funny thing, this: The cut-off works when I reply to your message, but
>>>> not when I reply to my own. I double-checked, and yes, there is one
>>>> black after the two dashes in my template...

>>>> Please try to reply to your own message and see whether it works fine.

>>>> --

>>> It appears from my message thread in TB (v8.8) that Thomas' cut mark
>>> is missing the space (I've copied it into a text editor to
>>> double-check) and Jack's is correct.

>>> Jack's messages are therefore quoting correctly, and Thomas' aren't.

>> The blank is definitely in the template, please see attached. I also
>> checked when creating this reply.

>> --

TF> ...and now it's gone. Weird.

TF> Can someboy lese using GMX please test this, so that we can see
TF> whether they cut trailing blanks in order to "improve" customer
TF> experience?

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TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

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TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


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I  checked before posting this, delimiter is present, two dashes and a
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Re[2]: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

2019-08-28 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

I'll experiment, thanks for the reply and ideas! :)

M> Hi


M> On Tuesday 27 August 2019 at 6:29:59 PM, in
M> , Chris Wilson wrote:-

>> I
>> can't get back my Folder View modes and my Colour
>> Groups, would anyone
>> know  which  files I need to grab from the old
>> installation to copy to
>> the  new  one?  

M> My Colour Groups seem to be defined in "COLORS.INI" in my mail folder.
M> And I couldn't swear to it but the View Modes might be in "CONFIG.CDB"









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Re[2]: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019,  you wrote:

M> Hello Chris,

>> I  have  managed  to find and download v 5.8.8 Home edition, if I load
>> that and overwrite the bat.exe file with the one from my current 5.8.10
>> will  that  upgrade  5.8.8  to  my  current 5.8.10 version?

M> I  am  quite  sure  it  will. v5.8.8 is a (legacy) release (.msi file)
M> while 5.8.10 is not (does not appear in the list at Ritlabs.com). So, I
M> assume  it was a "beta release" (.exe file, actually a .rar one) and it
M> can be used to overwrite 5.8.8.

This  does  indeed  work  fine,  but I have two fairly minor issues. I
can't get back my Folder View modes and my Colour Groups, would anyone
know  which  files I need to grab from the old installation to copy to
the  new  one?  I  am  guessing  they  are  not in the Mail folder and
subfolders  as  I  copied  them  direct onto my D: Drive and pointed a
fresh  install  f  v5.8.8  onto my C: Drive, pointing it at the copied
MAIL  and  sub  folders  on  D:  So maybe some files from the old root
folders  need  copying?  Recreating  these  two  settings is proving a
nightmare! Thanks for the help :)

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Re[2]: Splitting message base by date to store old messages?

2019-05-02 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, April 28, 2019,  you wrote:

TF> Hello Chris,

TF> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:20:04 +0100 GMT (27-Apr-19, 20:50 +0700 GMT),
TF> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I am happily running a legacy version of TB! but my message base is
>> now huge. I was wondering if it is possible to somehow split the
>> message base based on date so I keep say the last two year's messages
>> in TB!' directory structure, and store older stuff elsewhere, perhaps
>> on tape or DVD? Thanks

TF> What I do is I "archive" old messages to other folders. For example, I
TF> name a subfolder "2016" and then move all messages from that year into
TF> that subfolder. This keep each folder with a manageable size. (Make
TF> sure you compact the folders in which the messages were stored
TF> previously.)

TF> If you want to store those messages somewhere else, you create a dummy
TF> account called "Archive". Under Account / Properties / Files &
TF> Directories, you to an external drive or a drive in the cloud (nobody
TF> uses tape or DVD any more). This way, you don't need to keep them on
TF> your computer's harddisk.

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TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

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TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 17763

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Splitting message base by date to store old messages?

2019-04-27 Thread Chris Wilson



27 April 2019



I am happily running a legacy version of TB! but my message base is
now huge. I was wondering if it is possible to somehow split the
message base based on date so I keep say the last two year's messages
in TB!' directory structure, and store older stuff elsewhere, perhaps
on tape or DVD? Thanks


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Re[3]: Replies to some Yahoo groups question

2018-09-19 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MAU,

I  should  have added that this is the set up in the folder properties
Reply section I am now using for the WSJT group:

%To=""%TO="wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com"

%SUBJ

%DATE
%QUOTES

%CURSOR

-- 

%FROMNAME

















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Re[2]: Replies to some Yahoo groups question

2018-09-19 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018,  you wrote:

MAU> Hello Chris,

>> I  go  into  Accounts - Properties- Templates - Reply but can't find a
>> macro to force this. can you help at all please? Thanks :)

MAU> Try  what  I  use  for  example  for  this list. My TBUDL folder Reply
MAU> template starts with:

MAU> ,- [  ]
MAU> | Hello %OFROMFNAME,
MAU> | %To=""%TO="tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com"
MAU> `-

MAU> The  %To=""  clears the To field of anything that may already be there
MAU> (for  example  from  the Reply-To header of the incoming message). The
MAU> second %To=, in your case should be %To="wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com"

Thanks  a  lot, that appears to work just fine. Another issue is a lot
of  posters  to Yahoo groups don't rim their mails and for some reason
TB!  fails  to put the message being replied to in quotes if I use the
%Quotes macro in that group. In fact the reply goes berserk as below.
 I appreciate the fix! All the best.

 Hello Jean,

[wsjtgroup] wsjtx v2.0 broken feature ?

19 September 2018
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Replies to some Yahoo groups question

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Wilson



18 September 2018



As you can see from my sig I am using a legacy version of TB! A couple
of  Yahoo  groups  I  read  and  post to via TB! are set up by default
relies  go  to the individual poster's address and not the group as a
whole.  How  do I force these odd groups to accept a reply to a single
fixed address, namely in one instance, to: wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com

I  go  into  Accounts - Properties- Templates - Reply but can't find a
macro to force this. can you help at all please? Thanks :)


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Re[2]: Message in Outbox been being sent every three minutes for months

2018-06-04 Thread Chris Wilson



Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, May 26, 2018,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Wed, 23 May 2018 12:12:17 +0100 GMT (23-May-18, 18:12 +0700 GMT),
> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> My UK based ISP Zen Internet sent me a nasty e-mail saying a lot of
>> Spam mail was emanating from my PC yesterday. I run a legacy TB!
>> version v5.8.10 as I am very comfortable with it, but it has never
>> knowingly done the following before.

>> I had a filter set to forward from my main e-mail account
>> "chriswilson.tv" folder to my GMAIL account, so I can read it on my
>> phone when out and about. It appears that although any Spam I receive
>> at chriswilson.tv is also forwarded to my GMAIL account, this
>> particular mail did send, but remained in TB's Outbox. I poll the POP3
>> mail server at Zen every three minutes, and apparently every three
>> minutes since January this year TB! has attempted to send this Spam
>> e-mail. A recent review of mail security at Zen had them challenge
>> this with me and it resulted in them stopping my ability to send mail
>> through their servers altogether until I could explain what was
>> happening with my mail client r PC. An hour or so on the phone to them
>> today had me by chance look in the TB! Outbox and see a message sat
>> there that was one it was trying to forward to my GMAIL address. I
>> quoted the headers and Zen confirmed this was the single e-mail that
>> TB! had constantly been trying to push across their servers since
>> January!

>> Should this have been reflected back with a 500 authorization failure
>> by Zen or GMAIL, and even if not should TB! have just kept on trying
>> to push it through? Is there a workaround like TB! automatically
>> emptying the Outbox every night, and if so, how should I implement
>> that please? Thanks ;)

> I cannot confirm this; sometimes a mail cannot be sent and then it
> won't be sent, and TB! will leave it in the Outbox. In your case, the
> mail was sent but it still remained in the Outbox. That is weird.




Thank you Thomas, the issue has not returned and I have had many years
trouble  free  enjoyment from this elderly version, I will put it down
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Message in Outbox been being sent every three minutes for months

2018-05-23 Thread Chris Wilson



23 May 2018



My UK based ISP Zen Internet sent me a nasty e-mail saying a lot of
Spam mail was emanating from my PC yesterday. I run a legacy TB!
version v5.8.10 as I am very comfortable with it, but it has never
knowingly done the following before.

I had a filter set to forward from my main e-mail account
"chriswilson.tv" folder to my GMAIL account, so I can read it on my
phone when out and about. It appears that although any Spam I receive
at chriswilson.tv is also forwarded to my GMAIL account, this
particular mail did send, but remained in TB's Outbox. I poll the POP3
mail server at Zen every three minutes, and apparently every three
minutes since January this year TB! has attempted to send this Spam
e-mail. A recent review of mail security at Zen had them challenge
this with me and it resulted in them stopping my ability to send mail
through their servers altogether until I could explain what was
happening with my mail client r PC. An hour or so on the phone to them
today had me by chance look in the TB! Outbox and see a message sat
there that was one it was trying to forward to my GMAIL address. I
quoted the headers and Zen confirmed this was the single e-mail that
TB! had constantly been trying to push across their servers since
January!

Should this have been reflected back with a 500 authorization failure
by Zen or GMAIL, and even if not should TB! have just kept on trying
to push it through? Is there a workaround like TB! automatically
emptying the Outbox every night, and if so, how should I implement
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Re[2]: Filtering question

2017-12-11 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Stuart,

On Monday, December 11, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:29:35 AM, you wrote:

>> One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
>> when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
>> plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
>> useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
>> originally appeared on my main PC please?

> When you forward a message you get a pop -up that has a lot of choices 
> including
> whether of not to include attachments and whether it is test or HTML. You may
> want to play with those. The other option is to redirect instead of 
> forwarding.
> That usually leaves things as they initially were.

Does  that work from forwarding via a filter though, as i haven't seen
any  pop  ups.  Please  bear  in  mind the age of this version of TB!,
perhaps it's something only available in later versions Stuart? Thanks
for  the  reply  Stuart. redirecting wouldn't save a message on the PC
into which the message initially arrived though, would it? Cheers!

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2017-12-11 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello MAU,

On Monday, December 11, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>> Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail!

> Have you done as I suggested in my previous replay 3 days ago?

>> -  I  have  seen  that  most  (if  not  all) have the Option "Continue
>> processing  with  other  filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why
>> you  want  a  message  be  'tested'  by all your filters? If a message
>> matches  the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in
>> checking possible matches with the rest of them.
>>
>> Unless  you  have  a good reason to have this option set, untick it in
>> all filters and try and see if there is a difference.

> Well, did you try? Your answer is important to continue investigating.

Sorry,  the wife threw a Christmas party so it's been manic here I
removed  all  the  continue  filtering  ticks and revised a few filter
orders.  I  also  removed  a few redundant ones. I am a lot of mailing
lists  hence  so  many  filters to send content to a dedicated folder.
Things  are now infinitely better, thank you so very much! There are a
few  anomalies, but I have now worked out how to put the messages back
in the Inbox and manually run a filter with logging to see what filter
is  placing  them  incorrectly.  I  am  ALMOST at a perfect situation!
Awesome, and greatly appreciated.

One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
originally appeared on my main PC please?

I think with a final few tweaks to the order of filters things will be
nigh on 100% :) Again, thanks to all for tips and time spent!

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2017-12-07 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, December 7, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>>  Any further ideas please?

> Not much more to suggest, I'm afraid.

> - Are you using any Common Filters at all?

None

> - What about another filter down the list as Stuart Cuddy suggests?

I can't see anything although filter ORDER is something I may not have
addressed properly.

> If  you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as
> text(*) and I will take a look at them.

Have done so, many thanks!

> (*) To save your complete list as text, open the Sorting Office for the
> account.  Select  and  right  click on "Incoming Mail" and on the  context
> menu   select  'Copy'.  The complete list of filters will be copied as
> text which you can Paste in a text file or directly in an email body.

Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail!

Note  please  that  I  reset  the  My  Mail filter to stop it sending a
forward of all mails to my phone :) I hope you have some luck spotting
what's happening Miguel! Appreciated.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2017-12-07 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, December 7, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>> OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one
>> of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please??

> OK, what I would do in your case:

> Filter: My New Mail Folder
>  Condition: If Sender... or Recipient ...
>  Action: None (Yes NONE)

>  Sub-filter: Forward Mail
>   Condition: Any Message
>   Action: Move to the folder
>   Forward message

> Both  actions  are  included  in the sub-filter because the sub-filter
> will  ONLY  be  tested  and executed IF the condition in the filter is
> true.

> Try  it.  You  don't  have  to  replace  your  current  filters.  Just
> deactivate them and create the suggested ones.

I have had this new filter running as per your suggestion, or at least
I  *THINK*  I  have  followed it correctly, but still I am getting all
messages  to  my  main  PC forwarded to GMAIL. Not as I wish, just the
ones  the  old  filter  put in the folder "My New Mail". I had thought
this  was  a common filtering requirement these days, trust me to want
something  difficult  :(  Any further ideas please? Thank you for your
time.

New filters are :

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter3.jpg and

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter4.jpg

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2017-12-07 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MAU,

OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one
of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please??

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter1.jpg

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter2.jpg


Thanks, sorry to be a pain!



On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello MAU,

>> That  should  work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages
>> moved to an specific folder are forwarded.

> And I have verified it once again with my own message to this list. It
> was moved to folder TBUDL, as it should be, and also forwarded.








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Re[2]: Filtering question


Hello Stuart,

No,  but  I  have altered it now to "Source folder is: one of : ~/~/My
Mail  Thanks for sticking with me ;)

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 11:02:50 AM, you wrote:

>> Nope,  the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry
>> to  be  a  pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks.
>> Filter order relevant???
> In the sub-filter on the folders tab, did you select "Specified Folders Only"
> and then pick your My Mail folder?








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Re[2]: Filtering question


Hello Stuart,

Nope,  the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry
to  be  a  pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks.
Filter order relevant???



On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote:

>> But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
>> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
>> the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
>> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

> You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the
> folder that the messages were moved to.

> Filter 1 Move
>   Subfilter Forward








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Re[2]: Filtering question


Hello Stuart,

Ahh,  silly  me,  I  have  never  noticed  the sub filter option, and,
obviously,  never tried to use it, i have done as you suggested, we'll
see what happens! :) Thanks again Stuart.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote:

>> But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
>> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
>> the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
>> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

> You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the
> folder that the messages were moved to.

> Filter 1 Move
>   Subfilter Forward

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Re[2]: Filtering question

Hello Stuart,

That's  exactly  how I did it, a second action after Move To : My Mail
Folder

I put a second action Forward To: (my GMAIL account)

But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:01:43 AM, you wrote:

>> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
>> to my GMAIL account?

> You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after
> moving will forward the message. 

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Filtering question



06 December 2017



I have a new Smartphone (Moto G4) and not being used to modern phones
it's taking me a while coming to terms with its abundant features!

I want TB! to forward mails that have been already filtered to my
personal mail folder (My Mail) on my home desktop PC to GMAIL so I can
reasd them on my phone. But when I add a rule to forward that mail to
my GMAIL address i get ALL mail coming to my chriswilson.tv account
forwarded to GMAIL. I tried moving the filter to the bottom of the
list but no change in that behaviour occurred.

The rules that work for TB! are

sender contains chriswilson.tv
OR
recipient contains chriswilson.tv

Action

Move messages to My Mail folder


All other messages generally and reliably get filtered to relevant
folders, they being mainly mailing list messages.

Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
to my GMAIL account?

Thanks I am running an older version of TB! as generally speaking I am
comfortable  with  it  by  now  ;)  I think the correct description for
people like myself is a Luddite!

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Re[3]: GMAIL account using The Bat!

2017-12-01 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Chris,

On Friday, December 1, 2017,  you wrote:


> Hello Adrian,

> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017,  you wrote:

>> Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote:

>>> Is it possible to read and post
>>> messages from within TB

>> It  certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the
>> account  in  the  first  place  and  occasionaly  for  "website  login
>> required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and 
>> enable POP.

>> In The Bat, just create an account like any other.

>> SMTP = smtp.gmail.com
>>secure to regular (startTLS)
>>port 587

>> POP =  pop.gmail.com
>>secure to dedicated (TLS)
>>port 995

>> Keep  an  eye  on  the  account log. If your IP address for the actual
>> Internet  connection changes, you get "website login required" errors.
>> That  will  probably  happen  the  first  time.  Then  just  login  at
>> www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work.

>> You  might  have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when
>> actually  logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you
>> should only have to do it once.

>> Adrian


>> 
>> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html



> I  am  resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to
> my  GMAIL  account  via  TB!  I bought a "smartphone" It told me some
> unauthorized  access  had  been  attempted  from outside my area and to
> change  the  password.  I did this and whilst i can access the account
> via  the web, TB! has now stopped sending or receiving may via GMAIL. I
> checked that the allow less secure apps was still active. Every time I
> try and connect via TB! I get the box in the second image. My settings
> are as before, save for the change of password which I have re entered
> several  times  with  great  care.  Any ideas please? the "smartphone"
> connects fine. Thanks! Oh, and I have put up an image of the log, too,
> the third image.


> http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail1.jpg


> http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail2.jpg


> http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail3.jpg

> -- 

> Chris Wilson

> "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1"



Sorry to reply to my own mail, but I returned to the GMAIL web
interface and turned allow usage of less secure apps on and of a few
times, and finally left it on again. After a few mails from GMAIL
warning of the changes all is now well. It was definitely "ON" before,
but for whatever reason it didn't seem to take, unless the smartphone
is automagically changing it when it connects. But for now TB! is once
again accessing the account for both fetch and send, apologies for the
waste of bandwidth!











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Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!

2017-12-01 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Adrian,

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017,  you wrote:

> Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote:

>> Is it possible to read and post
>> messages from within TB

> It  certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the
> account  in  the  first  place  and  occasionaly  for  "website  login
> required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and 
> enable POP.

> In The Bat, just create an account like any other.

> SMTP = smtp.gmail.com
>secure to regular (startTLS)
>port 587

> POP =  pop.gmail.com
>secure to dedicated (TLS)
>port 995

> Keep  an  eye  on  the  account log. If your IP address for the actual
> Internet  connection changes, you get "website login required" errors.
> That  will  probably  happen  the  first  time.  Then  just  login  at
> www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work.

> You  might  have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when
> actually  logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you
> should only have to do it once.

> Adrian

> 
> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

I  am  resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to
my  GMAIL  account  via  TB!  I bought a "smartphone" It told me some
unauthorized  access  had  been  attempted  from outside my area and to
change  the  password.  I did this and whilst i can access the account
via  the web, TB! has now stopped sending or receiving may via GMAIL. I
checked that the allow less secure apps was still active. Every time I
try and connect via TB! I get the box in the second image. My settings
are as before, save for the change of password which I have re entered
several  times  with  great  care.  Any ideas please? the "smartphone"
connects fine. Thanks! Oh, and I have put up an image of the log, too,
the third image.

http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail1.jpg

http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail2.jpg

http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail3.jpg

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Re[2]: TB! will not open a .msg file

2017-09-08 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Tony,

On Friday, September 8, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:16:02 +0100 GMT (08/09/2017, 15:16 +0700 GMT), Chris 
> Wilson wrote:


>> Hello Thomas,

>> On Friday, September 8, 2017,  you wrote:

>>> Hello Chris,

>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:59:24 +0100 GMT (07-Sep-17, 21:59 +0700 GMT), 
>>> Chris Wilson wrote:

>>>> I  go  on to a council web site where some documents can be 
>>>> downloaded as  .msg  files, but my (oldish) version of TB! shows 
>>>> them as a blank page.  In  the  Options  I have .msg files set to be 
>>>> opened by TB! Any idea  what's  up  please?  The  files have content 
>>>> and the plain text, amidst the gobbledegook characters, can be read in 
>>>> Notepad. Thanks.

>>>> I could attach a sample file if it would help?

>>> I would certainly help to have a sample, but there is a limit to the 
>>> szie of attachments here. Please try to attach; if you receive an 
>>> error message, please either point us to the website where these 
>>> files are for download, or please send me that message file by PM.

>>> What version of TB! are you using?

>> Hi  Thomas, thanks for the reply, version is in my sig  (v5.8.10) on 
>> Win 7 64 bit. I have put a sample .msg at:

>> http://www.gatesgarth.com/1.msg

>> Thanks.

>> .msg   files  are usually plaintext files. This one is not, and that's
>> why TB! cannot open it.

>> If I open it in Notepad, I see a lot of "garbled" characters and some hints 
>> to MS Exchange.

> I suspected this as most Councils are probably Outlook/Exchange
> users and no one within the organisation probably considered anybody would be 
> using something else!

> They would have saved it as a straight export/save from Outlook.

> The only way to read would be to use Outlook.

> Tony

> 
> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Thank  you Tony /Thomas, knowing UK council departments it comes as no
real surprise that they have a blinkered outlook (excuse the pun) with
their  mail  system, I saw the garbled characters but wasn't sure if a
.msg  file  always had them when viewed with a plain text application.
Thanks  again,  this  is  a marvellous support group, it's helped me a
great deal, even when using a legacy version of TB!



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Re[2]: TB! will not open a .msg file

2017-09-08 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Thomas,

On Friday, September 8, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:59:24 +0100 GMT (07-Sep-17, 21:59 +0700 GMT),
> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I  go  on to a council web site where some documents can be downloaded
>> as  .msg  files, but my (oldish) version of TB! shows them as a blank
>> page.  In  the  Options  I have .msg files set to be opened by TB! Any
>> idea  what's  up  please?  The  files have content and the plain text,
>> amidst the gobbledegook characters, can be read in Notepad. Thanks.

>> I could attach a sample file if it would help?

> I would certainly help to have a sample, but there is a limit to the
> szie of attachments here. Please try to attach; if you receive an
> error message, please either point us to the website where these files
> are for download, or please send me that message file by PM.

> What version of TB! are you using?




Hi  Thomas, thanks for the reply, version is in my sig  (v5.8.10) on
Win 7 64 bit. I have put a sample .msg at:

http://www.gatesgarth.com/1.msg

Thanks.



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TB! will not open a .msg file

2017-09-07 Thread Chris Wilson



07 September 2017



I  go  on to a council web site where some documents can be downloaded
as  .msg  files, but my (oldish) version of TB! shows them as a blank
page.  In  the  Options  I have .msg files set to be opened by TB! Any
idea  what's  up  please?  The  files have content and the plain text,
amidst the gobbledegook characters, can be read in Notepad. Thanks.

I could attach a sample file if it would help?


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Re[2]: TB! throwing up root certificate issue window on GMAIL account

2017-08-23 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Jernej,

On Monday, August 21, 2017,  you wrote:

> On Sunday, August 20, 2017, 19:43:14, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I  don't  see  that  option  in this version of TB!, perhaps it's only
>> available in later ones? Thanks for the reply.

> Look for "S/MIME and TLS" menu item, it should be there.





Found it, changed it, and the issue seems resolved, many thanks to you
Jernej!




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Re[2]: TB! throwing up root certificate issue window on GMAIL account

2017-08-20 Thread Chris Wilson



On Sunday, August 20, 2017,  you wrote:

> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, 15:39:50, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> Can someone more knowledgeable than I suggest what's happening and how
>> to solve it please? Thanks. Apologies if it's not a Bat! problem, help
>> still welcome!

> Make sure you've set up TB to use Windows Certificate Store, and not
> it's own.


Hello Jernej,

I  don't  see  that  option  in this version of TB!, perhaps it's only
available in later ones? Thanks for the reply.






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TB! throwing up root certificate issue window on GMAIL account

2017-08-19 Thread Chris Wilson



19 August 2017



A  while  ago this list helped me successfully set up TB! to work with
my  new  GMAIL  account as well as my old "normal" POP3 e-mail account
with  a  different  ISP  (Zen  Internet  UK). All worked fine for some
months  but in the last few days when TB! polls the GMAIL server I get
the error window in this link:

http://www.gatesgarth.com/root.jpg

Can someone more knowledgeable than I suggest what's happening and how
to solve it please? Thanks. Apologies if it's not a Bat! problem, help
still welcome!


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Re[2]: Easy Archive (Was: Re: message base index file)

2017-07-05 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hi


> On Wednesday 5 July 2017 at 2:23:31 PM, in
> <mid:1262182731.20170705142...@chriswilson.tv>, Chris Wilson wrote:-



>> Can this archive reside on a different drive to TB!
>> itself please?


> Yes. This "Archive" account is just another email account as far as
> The Bat! is concerned. The home directory location is set during the
> new account wizard and can be changed at Account | Properties | Files
> & Directories. It can be on any drive.






OK, thanks for that I will give it a try, much appreciated!



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Re: Easy Archive (Was: Re: message base index file)

2017-07-05 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hi


> On Monday 3 July 2017 at 9:34:50 AM, in
> <mid:106038074.20170703183...@sunnysydney.com>, Tom wrote:-


>> I  wish there was an easy way to archive old emails
>> in a way that they
>> are stored in a static way outside of the active
>> program or database.  


> This is what I do. I got the idea from MAU on this list about ten 
> years ago, and I may as well paste in his description:-



Can this archive reside on a different drive to TB! itself please?
What a neat solution, thanks for the link.








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Re[2]: Templates question

2017-05-16 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Volker,

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017,  you wrote:

> [In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)]

> Moin, Chris et al.!

>>>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>>>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>>>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>>>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>>>> sig, thanks.

>>>> %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>"

>>> Please try without angle brackets:

>>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"


>> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
>> isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
>> this

>> Bryan Swadener via Amps <a...@contesting.com>

>> The reply goes to

>> Bryan Swadener <bswade...@yahoo.com>

> Try this:

> %TO=""%-
> %TO="a...@contesting.com"

> First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the
> mailing list.

> %REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.:

> - you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO="<gniddlf...@blub.com>"
> - my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com

> Cheers!
> VA




That's done the trick! Excellent, many many thanks Volker :)



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Re[2]: Templates question

2017-05-16 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT),
> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>> sig, thanks.

>> %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>"

> Please try without angle brackets:

> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"

Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
this

Bryan Swadener via Amps <a...@contesting.com>

The reply goes to

Bryan Swadener <bswade...@yahoo.com>

99%  of  mailing  lists I have no trouble with, mainly Yahoo ones, but
this list is a pain as I inadvertently reply via e-mail rather than to
the  whole  list  unless  I  am careful. Thanks, other ideas more than
welcome :)

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Templates question

2017-05-15 Thread Chris Wilson



15 May 2017



I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
sig, thanks.


%REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>"



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Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

On Saturday, March 25, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hi


> On Wednesday 22 March 2017 at 2:57:10 PM, in
> <mid:398958748.20170322145...@chriswilson.tv>, Chris Wilson wrote:-


>> I
>> set  the GMAIL account to allow access to insecure
>> apps, but I may try
>> and set it to OFF again and see if it is vital to
>> connectivity. 

> That setting is required due to Google trying to subvert one of the 
> connection protocols by adding their own proprietary extension that 
> almost no mail applications understand.



>> As  an aside, I am using an old V 5.8.10 TB!. I am
>> quite happy with it
>> save for one thing that really bugs me. If I am
>> reading a message in a
>> pre  view  pane  and  a  new  message  arrives  in 
>> that  folder, I am
>> immediately  slung  out of it and the message is
>> marked read. Does the
>> current version have this, to me, annoying trait?

> I have never seen that, but I jumped from v4.0.38 to v7.x. I don't 
> know if it is a bug in particular versiond, or the result of some 
> configuration setting.

> There might be a later version you are able to upgrade to on your 
> existing licence - check Help | About. The next version above 5.8.10 
> that is on Ritlabs's Archived Versions page [0] is 6.0.12.

> [0] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php>.


OK,  thanks  for the explanation re the GMAIL setting, I'll leave well
alone,  and  re  the later versions of TB! You have been most helpful,
thanks again.






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Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!

2017-03-22 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Adrian,

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017,  you wrote:

> Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote:

>> Is it possible to read and post
>> messages from within TB

> It  certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the
> account  in  the  first  place  and  occasionaly  for  "website  login
> required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and 
> enable POP.

> In The Bat, just create an account like any other.

> SMTP = smtp.gmail.com
>secure to regular (startTLS)
>port 587

> POP =  pop.gmail.com
>secure to dedicated (TLS)
>port 995

> Keep  an  eye  on  the  account log. If your IP address for the actual
> Internet  connection changes, you get "website login required" errors.
> That  will  probably  happen  the  first  time.  Then  just  login  at
> www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work.

> You  might  have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when
> actually  logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you
> should only have to do it once.

> Adrian

Thanks  for  all the well detailed replies, I am happy to say I am now
able  to  read  and write e-mail to my GMAIL account from within TB! I
set  the GMAIL account to allow access to insecure apps, but I may try
and set it to OFF again and see if it is vital to connectivity. Thanks
again everyone!

As  an aside, I am using an old V 5.8.10 TB!. I am quite happy with it
save for one thing that really bugs me. If I am reading a message in a
pre  view  pane  and  a  new  message  arrives  in  that  folder, I am
immediately  slung  out of it and the message is marked read. Does the
current version have this, to me, annoying trait?

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GMAIL account using The Bat!

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Wilson



21 March 2017



Due to a blacksheep.org mailing list suddenly, after some years,
deciding posts from my normal POP3 mail account and service provider
have a high SPAM count and bouncing them I have had to subscribe using
a newly created GMAIL account. Is it possible to read and post
messages from within TB! as i hate using a web browser for e-mail? if
so a brief guide treating me as an imbecile would be much appreciated
;) Thanks!


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Re[2]: To: line question

2015-11-27 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Roelof and hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015,  you wrote:

> Hallo Chris,

> Op woensdag 25 november 2015, 12:56:30, schreef Chris Wilson:

>> If I reply to a Yahoo groups forum message the To: line often has both
>> the sender's mail address and the Yahoo group's address. If I want the
>> replies to posts to ONLY go to whatevergr...@yahoogroups.com what do I
>> need to do, macro wise to ensure this please?

> The yahoogroups I'm subscribed to all have the reply-to header set to
> the list, in order to get something else you need to use macros. So
> you'd best delete the macros in your template that handle the To:
> header.

Thanks,  some  groups  were  not  using the senders e-mail address for
replies,  as  you  say, they were enclosed in double inverted commas.
Some  were  also replying to the sender direct as well as to the group
address.  MFPA's  macro  sorted  it,  thanks for your fast replies and
help. All the best!

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To: line question

2015-11-25 Thread Chris Wilson



25 November 2015



TB!  V5.8.10

If I reply to a Yahoo groups forum message the To: line often has both
the sender's mail address and the Yahoo group's address. If I want the
replies to posts to ONLY go to whatevergr...@yahoogroups.com what do I
need to do, macro wise to ensure this please?

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Re[2]: Move TB! from my OS C: drive to my separate data drive D: ??

2015-04-27 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

On Monday, April 27, 2015,  you wrote:

 Hi


 On Friday 24 April 2015 at 2:12:52 PM, in
 mid:733958681.20150424201...@gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez wrote:


 Actually, there is another way. In each account in TB!,
 just go to Account / Properties / Files  Directories,
 and just change the Home Directory to the directory
 where you want the files to reside. TB! will them
 automagically to there.

 Wouldn't you still need to go to Options | Preferences | System and
 point the mail directory to the new drive and folder, so that any new 
 accounts or common folders created in future place their files in the 
 desired location? And move the address book and spell-checker files?





Thanks for all the help. The registry stuff was critical, I had a
cloned hard drive and decided to see what would happen if you DID NOT
save the registry entries and modify them to point to a different
drive. It's vital as TB! gets in a right mess and effectively seems to
create two account structures. And yes, it was necessary to point the
new installation to the desired attachments storage folder. The
address book and spell check stuff seemed to move with TB! without any
of my input. Done correctly I had no apparent issues and TB! was up
and running on a different drive very quickly. Thanks again.


I  will  ask  again though, has Ritlabs never told end users just what
the  function  of  the various files that store user changeable set up
options  are?  I would love to know what each of them is doing. Thanks
again.



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Re[2]: Move TB! from my OS C: drive to my separate data drive D: ??

2015-04-22 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Rick,

On Wednesday, April 22, 2015,  you wrote:

I have backups done by Second Copy of the whole TB! file system and database, 
so should be safe enough, but how should I migrate a multi Gb TB! 
installation from my C: drive (C:\The Bat\) to a similar folder structure 
on my D: drive please, and is there any risk in this?
 Well something can ALWAYS go wrong but excluding Murphy's Law, just
 copy the database to the D drive into a folder you want the mail
 database to reside then go to Preferences, System and point them
 mail directory to the new drive and folder


 
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the  (much  faster  SSD)  C:  drive, or might it be better to move the
whole lot to the D: drive which is a RAID 1 pairing?

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Re[2]: TB1 V 5.8.10 splitting a 25 gig database for part storage, part continued usage?

2015-04-22 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MFPA,

On Friday, March 20, 2015,  you wrote:

 Hi


 On Thursday 19 March 2015 at 3:02:27 PM, in
 mid:767500553.20150319160...@otten.tv, Roelof Otten wrote:


 When ready, delete the account and
 tell TB to keep the files on disk. That way they're
 removed from your current message base and reletivel;y
 easy to restore. (Simply add the storage account to
 your setup)  

 Instead of deleting the Dummy account, you could password-protect it. 
 Then, simply enter the Dummy account password to gain access to the 
 archived messages. You can even automate moving files to Archive using
 folder properties (see below).


Thank  you  Roelof  and  MFPA,  and apologies for the very late reply.
Life  threw one of its curved balls my way and I have been preoccupied
with other things for a while ;)

I will look at these options and make a choice shortly. I have another
question, but will start a new thread, thanks again gentlemen!










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Move TB! from my OS C: drive to my separate data drive D: ??

2015-04-22 Thread Chris Wilson



22 April 2015



I  have  backups done by Second Copy of the whole TB! file system and
database,  so  should be safe enough, but how should I migrate a multi
Gb  TB! installation from my C: drive (C:\The Bat\) to a similar folder
structure  on  my  D:  drive  please,  and  is there any risk in this?
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TB1 V 5.8.10 splitting a 25 gig database for part storage, part continued usage?

2015-03-19 Thread Chris Wilson



19 March 2015



How might I split a working TB! V 5.8.10 Home Edition database to put
historical mail into storage, yet keep stuff say 2 years old and newer
for continued immediate access and usage please? OS is Windows 7 64
bit. I envisage trying to have historical stuff on a storage drive,
yet be able to keep more recent mail and all folder hierarchies as
is for instant continued access if you follow? Many thanks.


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Re[2]: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Roger,

On Wednesday, August 27, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 6:09:37 PM, among other things, you wrote:

CW Despite being a very long time Bat! user i have never had cause to do
CW this until now. I want to save a series of about 60 e-mails in one
CW folder to disc, and be able to re enter them into TB! at a later date
CW if needed. I may also have a need to collate them together and print
CW them off in one go. Are these things possible please, and how should I
CW attempt these tasks? Thanks. TB! V 5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

  In  the  Tools  menu  there  are items for Export Messages and Import
  which  should  do what you want.

  Having said that, I am wondering why it is necessary to remove the messages
  from  TheBat!.   If it is to remove them from the eyes of other users, then
  that  can be achieved by putting them into a special Account with its own
  password.   This  account  need  not  have  any  facility  for sending or
  receiving  mail  but  would  have all the normal TB facilities for editing,
  printing and collating.


Thanks  MFPA  and Roger, the export function worked fine, and kept the
attachments. I needed to store some legal data for posterity, and away
from  my general mail. I exported twice, once as .eml and once as .msg
call me paranoid ;)


Would  be nice to have a way to save a selected group of messages as a
text  file,  with  only  selected headers shown, at some stage. Thanks
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Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Wilson



26 August 2014



Despite being a very long time Bat! user i have never had cause to do
this until now. I want to save a series of about 60 e-mails in one
folder to disc, and be able to re enter them into TB! at a later date
if needed. I may also have a need to collate them together and print
them off in one go. Are these things possible please, and how should I
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Re[2]: Filtering question

2014-08-23 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MAU,

On Friday, August 22, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,


 My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

 and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a
 filter,  it  still  contains  part  of  the  old address?

 Because 'softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com' does NOT contain 
 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com'. If the new address was 
 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com.stage' your filters would still work.

 Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter?

 I'm afraid so.




Ah yes, of course, I see now! Thanks for that. I was away for two days
and  came  back  to find a load of unfiltered mails in my Inbox, which
would  normally have filtered to the correct Yahoo groups folders. the
odd  thing is these changed To: header lines have ceased arriving, and
none  of  these  are  in my Inbox today. I wonder if it was a temporary
glitch at Yahoo?


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Filtering question

2014-08-22 Thread Chris Wilson



22 August 2014



I have a lot of subscriptions using e-mail to various Yahoo Groups. It
seems  they  have changed the To: address to add a stage into it, an
example :

softroc...@yahoogroups.com   to

softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com


My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a
filter,  it  still  contains  part  of  the  old address? Do I need to
manually change each and every yahoogroups filter?

Thanks, I am using TB!  5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit.




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5.8.10 anomaly

2014-08-15 Thread Chris Wilson



15 August 2014



In 5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, if I use the Search function the
search works, but no results are displayed in the Results window until
I close that window and re open it again. Then the search results are
actually displayed. A minor annoyance, but curious if others see this?
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Re[2]: 5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Feli,

On Friday, July 18, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:42:56 +0100GMT Chris Wilson wrote:

CW Without  thinking  I  moved TB! to my new Windows 7 Pro 64 bit machine

 I had no problems at all, no losses of data or configurations.




Some  great  reassurance,  I  have  checked and TB! has maintained the
correct  location for my data, so all seems good. I was amazed how much
faster  a  full  maintenance  progressed on a SSD and a modern machine!
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5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?

2014-07-18 Thread Chris Wilson



18 July 2014



Without  thinking  I  moved TB! to my new Windows 7 Pro 64 bit machine
from  an  elderly  XP Pro 32 bit PC. Whilst TB! appears to work fine I
would  like  reassurance  it  will  be happy long term on a 64 bit OS.
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Is this bug fixed in the current version please?

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Wilson



02 June 2014



I am using 5.8.10 and it's working great. My only real annoyance is if if
I have view modes set to show unread messages and I am reading one in
the preview pane, and a new mail arrives, the focus is lost and the
message disappears, marked as read. It's not a show stopper but gets
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Re[2]: Enlarging incomimg mail body test

2014-04-10 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Jernej,

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014,  you wrote:

 On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 15:27:02, Forums wrote:

 Thanks - was hoping it would be simpler than that. Will have a play with 
 that.

 Click inside message body, hold Ctrl, then scroll with your
 mousewheel.




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Re[2]: Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello Rick,

On Monday, March 17, 2014,  you wrote:

I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which appears 
alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly - is there any way 
to change this please?

 The answer is no, but if you change the email to plain text then
 copy the quoted text and switch back without changing anything, you
 can paste that into the message. I would like to see an option to
 select the   method of quoting in all message editors




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Re[2]: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system

2014-03-04 Thread Chris Wilson


Hello MAU,

On Monday, March 3, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 I have sent you a PM with a message from the folder as an attachment.
 It appeared as a .eml file, I am hoping this is correct? Thanks for
 your help Miguel!

 I got your PM with the attachment. I saved it, imported it in a folder
 and replied to it (without sending) using your template and the reply 
 (in HTML only) seems correct to. Actually, I will reply to it again and
 change the To address to your's so that you will get it and verify 
 yourself. 

 As you can see in my signature I'm using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA), 
 while I think you are using v5.8.10. I don't know if this can make a 
 difference.




I have altered my settings under  Options - Preferences - Viewer /
Editor and also used the macro Feli suggested (%SETEDITOR=4)
in the folder properties for that mailing list, and all seems to be
working OK now. I see the html text quoted when I reply to a post and
my reply for this folder is also in html. Replies to messages in other
folders is in plain text which is what I prefer to use. I am still
unsure if TB's behaviour is correct and as expected, or if these
measures are abnormal, but many thanks to all for guiding me through
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Re[2]: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system


Hello MAU,

On Saturday, March 1, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 Is there a way for TB! to be set to reply to this one mailing list
 with html, and to use regular plain text for all my many other lists
 please?

 Yes, you can define Reply template for that folder to be HTML. Right 
 click on the folder, select Properties/Templates/Reply and in top menu
 of the window select Format/HTML.




That should work, but doesn't, despite setting the folder properties -
Reply to use HTML I do not see any quoted text, but thanks for the
idea.



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Re: HTML rendering problem - was: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system


Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, March 2, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 14:28:57 + GMT (01-Mar-14, 21:28 +0700 GMT),
 Chris Wilson wrote:

 I subscribe to many mailing lists via e-mail. 99.9% work fine, but
 one sends some mails in some odd format. TB! won't read them
 without clicking on the html tab, or the part_01.txt tab.

 This suggests to me that the messages are received in HTML format
 without including a plaintext version, and with no text content in
 the HTML version.

 I have received such message too. In my case, they were all malformed.
 But I think Outlook reads them anyway, so that is the confusion.

  see screenshots at:

 I can confirm the same, also with the part_01.txt and part_02.txt
 surrounding the HTLM tab.

 I you have the HTML tab open and reply, the text will be correctly
 quoted.

 Uploaded now, I got distracted and left them on my PC, sorry. I should
 add that Agent and Becky! both read and reply to these mailings with
 zero user input.

 If you create a bur report, I will support it.


With the html tab open and the message contents visible, replying
results in none of the original message showing save what I uploaded
as a screenshot, but thanks for the idea. I can see that it SHOULD do
this, or at least I would expect it to do this!





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Re[2]: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system


Hello Feli,

On Saturday, March 1, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 14:53:07 +GMT Chris Wilson wrote:

CW Is there a way for TB! to be set to reply to
CW this one mailing list with html, and to use regular plain text for all
CW my many other lists please?

 It's easy with an address template. Add the lists address to your
 addressbook and add the macro %SETEDITOR=4 to your normal reply
 template. I do this for my business account and it works like a charm.


That DOES work, thanks Feli! I didn't use the address book though, I
just added the macro line you cited in the folder properties, REPLY section. 



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Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re[2]: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system


Hello MAU,

On Sunday, March 2, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,


 That should work, but doesn't, despite setting the folder properties -
 Reply to use HTML I do not see any quoted text, but thanks for the
 idea.

 Does the Reply template include the QUOTES macro?





This is the current template for that troublesome list's folder MAU:

%SETEDITOR=4
%QUOTES

%DATESHORT %TIME

%CURSOR

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   Chris Wilson.



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Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re[2]: Impossible to reply to one mailing list on my system