Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!

2021-06-20 Thread Ian A. White
Sorry, I prepared it as a plain text message but had to resend it and when I 
edited the message, the old quirk of changing the format back to HTML kicked 
back in and I forgot to switch it back.

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Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!

2021-06-20 Thread Ian A. White
Title: Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!


G'day Richard,

Apologies for the way this comes through, but while the upgrade has gone through without a hitch as far as my message base and filters are concerned, my message templates have become horribly screwed up, hence the poor format of this message.

To give you an idea of what is going on, here is what my reply template ends up being when I somply press the reply button.

G'day +ACU-CapitalFirst+AD0AJQ-OFromFName,

+ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Reply+AF8-Ref+ACI

+ACU-NOReadConfirm+ACU-Cursor+ACU-Quotes

+ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Signature+AF8-TB+ACI

+ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-The+AF8-Bat+AF8-Beta+AF8-Discussion+AF8-Signature+ACI
+ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-TB+AF8-Headers+ACI
+ACU-SetEditor+AD0-1
+ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Default+AF8-Delay+ACI-

Now, those up with everything will know whats going however I have not the foggiest idea as to what the +ACU- and +ACI means and why it is there.

You can see what it was supposed to show from my previous message in this thread.

Basically I have used separate quick templates that can be used across multiple folders and groups and then they get called up as %QT in a particular group etc. This way, if I need to change something, I only have to do it once and it ends up automatically across all the groups that use it.

Anyone have any idea as to why this change has happened?

Thanks.

I am going to enter a sigdash even though I have no signature as I am mot a big fish eater. Well, you know what I mean :D

Hopefully it comes down this time as the other thing is that it lost the from setting and used my default.

One other thing is I have lost the message list tabs and am having to ferret around to find out how to get them back.

I was trying to get rid of all the unnecessary windows like the quick reply window and the one at the root of an account. Much better to access them from menus and toolbars. That will learn me.

Here goes.

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HTML image cache management

2009-01-07 Thread Ian
My image cache is now about 750Mb. Does version 4.1.7 offer any
automated ability to manage the cache size and / or flush it of images
that have not been accessed for a set period of time?

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Automatic Backup File Name Date and Time stamping

2007-03-07 Thread Ian
I am using The Bat Pro version 3.98.4 under xp and I would like to
make a weekly backup of my mail data to a file named:

D:\Backup\ApplicationData\PCName%Date=-MM-DD-%Time=HH-MM-SS.tbk

However, this seems too long to paste into the dialog box in Options \
Preferences \ System \ Autobackup and if I instead browse to the
folder and then paste PCName%Date=-MM-DD-%Time=HH-MM-SS.tbk
into the file name box I get an error message Invalid File Name

How can I date and time stamp my automatic backups?

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Delete Junk Mails from POP3 Server

2007-01-09 Thread Ian
Is there a way to automatically delete spam messages from a POP3
server once they have been moved to the Junk mail folder by an
antispam plug-in? I like to keep good: mail on the server for two
weeks as an additional backup.

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Default a/c for e-mails started within the Bat!

2006-11-15 Thread Ian

How do I set the default e-mail account to be used when a new message
is created by selecting a name from the Address Book Favorites list
that appears when clicking on the drop down arrow beside the create a
new message button on the Standard Menu bar?

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Please request an X1 Desktop Search Program Bat! Filter

2006-10-30 Thread Ian
As the well rated X1 Enterprise Client has recently become free at and
can be downloaded from http://www.x1.com/products/xds.html I have
emailed X1 from their request a feature web page
http://www.x1.com/support/customer_care/index.html?code=3200 with a
request to create a Bat! e-mail filter for the desktop search program.
Their reply was as follows:

...Thank you for contacting us with your suggestion.

We keep a running tally of the different suggestion and feature
requests we get from customers. They do affect the future development
of the product.

Thank you again for taking the time to help make X1 better. Keep the
good ideas coming!

If more people from this list contact X1 we may get a Bat! filter

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How do I merge two message bases?

2005-11-19 Thread Ian A.White
Hi,

I finally received the recovered hard drive data from my failed hard
drive from the data recovery service. The drive with the recovered
data is mounted in an external hard drive case and the data is there,
but now do I merge it with the data that I have on the new drive on my
notebook? The import function only has options where the other data
has already been exported, and the synchronise function needs to have
the data on a functioning system.

I would prefer to be able to just copy or bring in the data from the
recovered data files, but if this is not going to be possible, I do
have The Bat! installed on a spare Win98 system. Do get this message
base onto that computer, would it simply be a matter of copying the
relevant recovered data files over to it and then doing a synchronise?

Are there any other utilities that can help out here?

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Re: How do I merge two message bases?

2005-11-19 Thread Ian A.White
MAU,

On Sunday, November 20, 2005, 6:32:14 AM, you (MAU) wrote:

M Hello Ian,


 The import function only has options where the other data has already
 been exported,...

M No, you can do Tools/Import/From The Bat! message base v2 (.TBB).

You know, you read things and read what you expect to read :-)

I just saw the 2 and automatically read it as V2 of The Bat!

Thanks.

I take it that I should be able to copy my address book, and filters
over with just a copy command?

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Re: What is winmail.dat file attachment? EOM

2005-11-19 Thread Ian A.White
Hi,

I have my data back and the utility for getting any information from
WINMAIL.DAT files is a utility called WMPARSER. You can do a search on
Google for it. Some of the links it turns up don't go anywhere, so you
might have to try.

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Re: Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-17 Thread Ian A.White
MAU,

On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 11:37:51 PM, you (MAU) wrote:

M Hello Ian,

M I have a solution  to used the Office 97 dictionaries without the need
M of installing the package. Unfortunately I'm currently away from Spain
M and I won't be able to give you further details until I am back home in
M a few days.

 I look forward to it :-)

M Download http://www.rancho-k.com/download/Proof.zip and read the How to
M Use text file. It includes the UK English and Spanish dictionaries which
M are the ones I use. As a matter of fact, I now never install TB's
M dictionaries, just these two.

Thanks for that. I will give it a whirl.

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Re: What is winmail.dat file attachment? EOM

2005-11-16 Thread Ian A.White
Admin,

On Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 7:53:10 AM, you (Admin at AK) wrote:

AaA see subject

Actually I had a program that would parse the WINMAIL.DAT file after
it was saved to disk. Unfortunately it is on the hard disk that is
with a data recovery service and my backups were corrupted.

When I get the disk back (hopefully with the data) I will let you know
what it is.

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Re: Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-14 Thread Ian A.White
MAU,

On Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:19:13 AM, you (MAU) wrote:

M Hello Ian,

 After rebuilding my system after a hard disk failure, I decided to
 install Office 2000 straight up without first installing Office 97. As
 a result I lost the use of the dictionaries from Office 97.

M I have a solution  to used the Office 97 dictionaries without the need
M of installing the package. Unfortunately I'm currently away from Spain
M and I won't be able to give you further details until I am back home in
M a few days.

I look forward to it :-)

I am still in the process of rebuilding my system following the crash.

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Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-13 Thread Ian A.White
Hi,

After rebuilding my system after a hard disk failure, I decided to
install Office 2000 straight up without first installing Office 97. As
a result I lost the use of the dictionaries from Office 97.

Are there any alternative dictionaries available for The Bat!? We tend
to use the ise words over the ize words here.

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Re: Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-13 Thread Ian A.White
Robin,

On Monday, November 14, 2005, 1:41:24 PM, you (Robin Anson) wrote:

 Are there any alternative dictionaries available for The Bat!? We tend
 to use the ise words over the ize words here.

RA I have mine set to British English. Seems to work the way I expect.

Mine is set to British English, but while it picks up the difference
between aluminum and aluminium, it considers customise incorrect.

Also it is a pity that my hard disk crashed as before that I had
Office97 and the dictionary from that could be used. There I had an
Australian English dictionary and it had things like place names and
the like that were accepted.

The interesting thing is that when I look at the Spell
Checker|Dictionaries it still says American English when I have set
the language to British English.

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Re: Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-13 Thread Ian A.White
Paul,

On Monday, November 14, 2005, 4:09:31 PM, you (Paul Berger) wrote:

PB Think you need to download the International Language pack from
PB ritlabs, and then install it.

PB Then in new message - options - language -select British English

PB But But But - it will still disallow customise.

PB John Clark's Dictionary of English Usage - Harrap Books 1990 Great
PB Britain, under ize or ise, it suggests that:

PB The endings -ize and -ization are preferred especially if the verb can
PB form a noun ending in -ation.

PB In my Microsoft XP Word, it accepts either spelling.

PB Good luck!

Thanks for that, but I am using the Pro version and it has the
international language pack as part of it. If downloaded and installed
it anyway, but it made no difference.

Anyhow, I know how to fix its little red wagon. I am also a licensed
user of Text Pad, and it uses the same spelling engine as The Bat!. I
have a couple of choices. I could archive the dictionary files and
copy the ones over from Text Pad, or if someone can point me as to
which one is the British English one I can copy just it over. In Text
Pad, customise is considered correct, and it still picks up the
difference between aluminum and aluminium.

Do you know which file is the problem one?

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Re: Alternative dictionaries?

2005-11-13 Thread Ian A.White
Paul,

Anyhow,I thought I'd let you know I did it the brute force way (added
all the original files into a Zip archive, then copied the files over
from Text Pad and I can now customise or customize to my heart's
content without the red squiggle ;-)

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New Install Crashes

2004-07-22 Thread Ian Gore
Hi

I've just copied my old TheBat! v1.?? files to a new PC (the old one's toast!). I get 
as far as specifying the network config and the program crashes - no error messages, 
it just isn't there anymore.  When I try and run it again, it crashes immediately.  
Since the files could have been corrupt, I downloaded v1.62 off the web site and 
installed it in a new folder - same result. I did the same with V2 and got almost 
identical results, the only difference was that this time it offered to tell Microsoft 
about it!

Everything else is working OK - any ideas?

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Re: New Install Crashes

2004-07-22 Thread Ian Gore
Hi Gerard
Is there any error code?
No - nothing at all, but it might be worth me checking the system log now that I think 
about it. That'll have to wait 'til I get home.

When you say I get as far as specifying the network config.. does that
mean you only get to enter de config data or are you trying to contact to
your mail server.

It's the first startup screen, where you specify whether TheBat's configured as a 
workstation etc.  I don't get as far as specifying account details.

I should have mentioned that the OS is XP Pro - I'm not sure which SP.

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Bayesit configuration - help needed

2004-06-06 Thread Ian Paul
Hello TBUDL,
Since I'm getting inundated with spam I decided to try the recommended
plug-in. I have met a configuration problem. I'm using The Bat! 2.11.2
with BayesIt 0.5.5. I am on dial-up so I do not download larger
messages , preferring to leave on the server for later action using
Mail Despatcher. Hence, I have a filter which , on the next logon,
matches all messages in the Inbox and deletes from server. Now, to the
problem if I configure BayesIt to automatically move spam messages
to the Junk folder, these messages are not in the Inbox at the time of
the next logon, hence do not match, and do not get deleted off the
server! So. I am trying to configure BayesIt to leave the messages
it regards as spam in the inbox but merely mark them read. There is
a check box to do this (on The Bat! preferences anti-spam leaf) but ,
although it is checked it is also greyed out and does not appear to
function (NB I have both the 'delete' and 'move' checkboxes
unchecked). Is this normal and does anyone know what is going on?

Perhaps unrelated, if I go to The Bat! preferences plug-ins leaf,
highlight BayesIt and click configure the Rules button for setting
black/white lists is similarly greyed out. Again, is this normal?

I guess the main problem is the seemingly poor help available for
BayesIt. Is there a help file somewhere I haven't located? I'd like to
know what all the options mean!

Thank you


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missing common folders

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Trider
Hello TBUDL,

I am using The Bat! v1.61.  A funny thing happened the other day; all
of my common folders disappeared.  The data is all still there, but
the folders have completely disappeared within The Bat!.

The funny thing is, the next day one of my folders and the Trash bin
reappeared.

I went to re-add the other folder that is missing but when I went to
do so The Bat! said that the folder was already being used for another
folder (..which makes me think The Bat still has track of it
somewhere?)

Does anyone have any idea?  Can I just recreate the folder and expect
everything to reappear if I specify the same directory for it, or will
all my messages go poof?

This folder also has subfolders.

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Accessing mail from two computers

2003-03-07 Thread Ian Grant
Hi TBUDL

Is it possible to put your E-mail folders on a separate network share
and access them from two separate computers. So for example when I'm
working on my notebook, i can have access to the e-mail i have here on my
desktop, and i can use it as if i was using this copy here.

I looked at synchronizing but that seemed a bit too fiddly.



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Re: square brackets and rfc822

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Petersen

Allie,

  It's just that no is saying you shouldn't either.

Obviously not! g The problem is that such a large proportion of the
messages on TB lists suffer from an overabundance of autogenerated
fluff.

 Marck gave what I consider a valid
 reason for signing

PGP (or similar) sigs are unneccessary on public mailing lists because
everyone is equally unknown to everyone else. Whether we are who we say
we are is simply irrelevant. Even for moderators! The only thing that
really matters is the content of our messages. If the persons who use the
names Allie Martin or Marck Pearlstone appear to write useful
messages and moderate with moderation, then it's all the same to me who
or what is behind those names. You may be raving lunatics or aliens
from another dimension for all I care as long as your activity on this
list is relevant and useful. In the context of the list, a PGP sig only
proves someone is capable of installing and using PGP, and little else.

 How's my intro line for
 instance? Do you like it? :-)

Apart from the PGP bit it's beautifully restrained. g

 I can't shorten my signature any more though and it's well within the
 6 line netiquette limit.

I always thought it was four lines, but never mind. Obviously, things
like sigs and cookies that come after the main message content are
less disrupting than stuff that comes before it.

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Re: square brackets and rfc822

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Petersen

David,

 When I start reading a mailinglist message I start with the quoted
 material or when I know the contents of the quotes I even start with
 the text below the quotes.

Well, obviously that is what I try to do too. The problem is that it
is not always clear where the actual message content starts. And when
I use my 800x600 laptop the intros, dates and stuff can fill so much
that the message itself is off the screen. In such cases I simply skip
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Re: square brackets and rfc822

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Petersen

Greg,

 agree to disagree

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Re: PGP again (was: square brackets and rfc822)

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Petersen

Dierk,

 a) a message and a mail address belong together, and
 b) a message has not been tinkered with.

They are both important things in many, if not most, email situations.
But I still maintain they are irrelevent on an informal public discussion list.

 There are good reasons to use PGP ...
 always. some people don't like it for perhaps equally good reasons

I'm not in any way against PGP or other forms of digital security.
They are undoubtedly very important tools in modern digital
communication. However, I reserve the right to find it just a little
comical that people feel the need to digitally sign their messages in
places such as this.

But as Greg so wisely said, I think we will have to agree to differ.
g

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Re: square brackets and rfc822

2002-04-17 Thread Ian Petersen

Marck,

 I'm the moderator here. When I make a statement it needs to be
 verifiably from me.

Don't you think you are taking your role here a little too seriously?
After all, we are not talking trade secrets here or national security.
I have been a member of scores of mailing-lists in the ten years I've
had access to e-mail and I've never seen a list-mom have need of proving
his identity. Nor have I ever experienced anyone posing as a false
list-mom. Is that a common problem on the TB lists?

 PGP signing is welcomed and not discouraged on this list since it
 is a function of TB

Of course, there's nothing wrong with the odd PGP signature now and
then in the course of explaining or discussing TB's features. But just
because TB has many features does not mean we all have to use every
feature on every message to the list.

The flow of a mailing list is very important - being able to easily
and quickly follow a conversation thread. Interruptions in the form of
unneccessary felicitations, dates, quotes, cookies and signatures just
make the conversations less easy to follow and thus less useful for
everyone involved. The TB lists are some of the noisiest I've
experienced in this respect, which is rather ironic, since we are here
to discuss an email client that basically is a tool to make
communication easier, quicker and more pleasurable!

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Re: square brackets and rfc822

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Petersen

Marck,

 You have to adopt one of the macro-ised quote formatters that abound
 on the FAQ to get round that.

Alternatively, you could stop inflicting the list with unnecessary PGP
signatures. Such things are not needed on an informal, public
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Re: Wrapp justify

2002-04-14 Thread Ian Petersen

Luc,

 I'm trying to use the WRAPJUSTIFY macro

Please don't. Trying to justify raw ASCII text is complete nonsense.
You will only make your messages harder to read for the recipients.

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Re: Importing from Outlook

2002-04-10 Thread Ian Petersen

Victor,

  I've been reading through the list and there's this mysterious
 email client called VA that's being talked about.

There's nothing mysterious about Virtual Access (VA)! It's probably
more well known amongst CIX (a british conferencing service) or
Compuserve users. It has existed in various guises (Wigwam, Teepee,
PowWow and VA) for over ten years. Aside from being an excellent OLR
for CIX and CIS it is also a very capable mail and news client. It can
handle an essentially unlimited number of mail accounts and
newsservers. It's main strengths are excellent threading and very
robust handling of a large messagebase. My VA messagebase is, for
example, about 2 GB and the programme is as fast and stable as it was
the day I installed it about seven years ago. I have heard of others
with messagebases of over 8 GB. Sadly, VA has not been actively
developed for over two years now and does not support stuff like
outgoing HTML mail, Unicode, yEnc encoding etc. but otherwise it is
fully functional for good old-fashioned mail and news. Hence the
influx of bemused VA users recently infesting this forum. There are
rumours that at least parts of VA may be made open sorce at some point
but, as yet, it is not certain if or when that will happen. You can take a look
here at http://www.atlantic-coast.com/va/ if you're interested.

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Re: Importing from Outlook

2002-04-10 Thread Ian Petersen

Miguel,

 Last VA release, version 5.51, was exactly released on Fe. 26th,
 2001.

Yes, but the operative word in my statement is actively. The
beta team had had build 315 a good many months before it was
officially released (Sept. 2000) and Pete had only made very minor
tweaks for a year or so before that. My memory could be wrong of course.

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Re: Importing from Outlook

2002-04-10 Thread Ian Petersen

Greg,

 I don't believe *bemused* is applicable.

Speak for yourself. I'm definitely bemused - but that may have nothing
to do with TB or VA! g

Your reply reminded me of a little wishlist item I have for TB:

It would be good if TB recognised the common forms of emphasis like
_underscores_, *asterisks* and /slashes/ and subtituted these for
underlined, bold and italic respectively. I believe there are other
mailers that are capable of this cough.

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Re: Mail Merge

2002-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen

Miguel,

 I would also probably go back to VA if it was resurrected. But, so
 far, I don't believe in miracles.

Well, a little bird just told me miracles do happen. Can't say more
just yet. g

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Re: Mail Merge

2002-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen

Greg,

 I heard this exact statement months ago.  Am I listening to a broken
 record?

Quite possibly. But I did say I JUST - as in this weekend - heard the
little bird sing. I am not, however, privy to any details. All I can
say is that it was a happy song.

 BTW that little bird wouldn't happened to be named
 Amrik?

No.

Now that's enough ornithology for today. g

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Re: Mail Merge

2002-04-06 Thread Ian Petersen

Marck,

 TB has some amazing and unique talents which I have been unable to
 replace using other clients

Undoubtedly. TB is certainly capable, in many ways, of a lot more than
VA ever has been. My main gripe with TB is many of its talents
are very difficult or long-winded to use and so poorly documented that
I, for one, simply give up trying to figure them out.

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Re: e-mail clients in general

2002-04-06 Thread Ian Petersen

Miguel,

 I'm sure you won't regret having paid for TB!

No, I don't regret it at all.

And yes, your suggestions will certainly get my support. I have plenty
of suggestions too, but I'll leave that for another day.

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Re: e-mail clients in general

2002-04-05 Thread Ian Petersen

Miguel,

 I don't think e-mail clients, like many other things, can be
 judged objectively. The best client for a person depends on his needs
 and preferences.

Of course. It was a somewhat facetious answer to a rather silly
question. After all, I have paid for TB and use is now as my primary
mail-client. But it has a long way to go before it can equal Virtual
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Re: Mail Merge

2002-04-05 Thread Ian Petersen

Miguel,

 Yes, sooner or later we will see more VA users here.

Unless VA, by some miracle, is resurrected from the netherworld. If
that ever happens I, for one, am probably outta here!

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Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Ian Petersen

Syafril,

  You forget the most important (IMO) issue: Unneccessary intros,
  felicitations, quoting, cookies and sigs simply make the actual
  message content harder to find, slower to read and more difficult to
  comprehend. Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this,
  every unneccessary byte makes the list just a little less useful or
  enjoyable.

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gifs

2001-12-05 Thread Ian Cunningham

Hello Batsters,

   Is there a way to embed a gif file within the body of a message?

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Re[2]: Bat Cannot Download E-Mail

2001-06-28 Thread Ian Andolina



 On  28  June  2001  at  19:29:31GMT  +0100  (19:26  for  me)  Marck D
 Pearlstone wrote in Bat Cannot Download E-Mail:



MDP In  Account  |  Properties | Transport | Receive mail press the
MDP Authenitcation button and (temporarily) turn on the Do not store
MDP password,  prompt  on  mail  retrieval  switch. At the next mail
MDP check, enter you new password then you can safely turn the switch
MDP back off again.

MDP That should fix it.

Yes,  thank  you.  Incidentally,  why  doesn't the Bat! connect when I
re-enter the password the second time?

MDP I  wouldn't  say  that!  Poco,  for  instance, writes in HTML and
MDP breaks the list rules! Then the reply text from your Poco message
MDP needs  manual coaxing into any semblance of legibility because of
MDP all of the missing spaces at the ends of the formatted lines.

MDP Please  use  a  more  recipient-friendly  email  client next time
MDP you're let down by TB! ;-).

Yes, as soon as I sent it, I suddenly realised what I had done!!! Poco
was  left  hanging  on  my  hard  drive when I first auditioned for an
e-mail client. As we know, a contest that the Bat! wins hands down.

Sorry for the HTML mail, and thanks for your help.


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Re[3]: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-29 Thread Ian Andolina

 On  29  April  2001  at  17:32:58GMT  +0100 (17:27 for me) Michael S.
 Greenbaum wrote in Worm: What Do I Do?:

MSG On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

 You  should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz.
 I find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users.

MSG Do   they   have   a  page  in  English?  My  Russian  is  a  bit
MSG rusty--actually completely corroded would be more like it.

 http://www.grisoft.com

 I  use it and it is good, lower hardware/memory overhead than the
 big  boys.  However,  they  don't  have daily updates. They claim
 their heuristic analysis is good, I suppose to counter this.

 ian

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Marx


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Time Zones???

2001-04-29 Thread Ian Andolina


Hello All,

I  just  wanted  to  ask  about  the  tagging  of time zones in e-mail
headers.  I  live  in  GMT,  but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time
measured  differently  to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for
any help.

ian

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Re[2]: Time Zones???

2001-04-29 Thread Ian Andolina



 On  29  April  2001 at 20:36:04GMT +0100 (20:22 for me) David Elliott
 wrote in Time Zones???:

 I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100.

DE So do I but I am in BST i.e. GMT +0100 for daylight saving time.

OK,  thank  you. As an aside, does the daylight saving time change
at  the  same point universally, or is there a period of several hours
or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity?

ian

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Re: AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?)

2001-04-29 Thread Ian Andolina



 On  29  April  2001  at  20:55:21GMT  +0100 (20:46 for me) Michael S.
 Greenbaum wrote in AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?):

MSG I  downloaded  this AVG program twice, but I cannot find it on my
MSG hard drive anywhere.

 Hi,   when   I   used  to  use  Netscape  Communicator,  I  would
occasionally  download  files  and  they too would disappear. A reboot
would  often  correct this, although sometimes it would occur again. I
now use Opera V5.11 as my main web browser. Once you adapt to the user
interface,  it  is  truly wonderful, very fast, and downloading always
works  (it also allows you to resume without any spyware features that
Netscape built into smartdownload...)

ian

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Re: Outlook 2000

2001-02-24 Thread Ian Bowes

Hello cronologic,

Saturday, February 24, 2001, 7:58:52 PM, you wrote:

c I want to export messages from [crappy] Outlook 200 into The Bat!.
c It isn't supported in the import options - Does anyone know if this
c can be done?

It can be done via Outlook Express.

Outlook to Outlook Express. Outlook Express into The Bat.

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Trying to unsubscribe

2000-11-06 Thread Ian Gore

Marck

I've sent two messages to the unsubscribe address
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but without success. Could you remove
me from the list, please?


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Re[2]: Where does all the disk space go?

2000-10-04 Thread Ian Gore

On Saturday, September 30, 2000, 4:59:41 PM, Ming-Li wrote:

ML Take a look at the tbb files in your message directories with Win
ML Explorer (or other file managers) and see which folders are
ML unreasonably large. Go to that folder in TB, turn on the "size"
ML column in your message list, and sort by size, then you might see
ML some extra large messages, usually with large attachments.

The space is being taken up by .msb files, some of which are more than
20 Mbyte each. What are these files? More to the point, what can I do
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Where does all the disk space go?

2000-09-30 Thread Ian Gore

I've deleted all my unwanted mails, purged and compressed all the
folders, but my disk space usage still seems way to high! Any ideas,
please?


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Re: How do I put my folders in alphabetic order?

2000-04-18 Thread Ian Bowes

Hello Thobias,

Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 1:50:29 PM, you wrote:

TN Everytime I create a new folder in my mailbox it always places
TN itself at the bottom of all the other folders, I want it to place
TN itself it alphabetic order automatic, how do I do that? Is it
TN possible?

Cant you just click on the Folders column header? It does sort them
alphabetically. Or am I missing something here?

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Address Book Root?

2000-02-21 Thread Ian Bowes

Hello TBUDL,

  A quick question

  Is the root of the Address Book meant to show ALL entries?
  I thought this was the case but I have people who are in two groups
  who don't show up in the root folder.

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Re[2]: Merge Group with Template

2000-02-19 Thread Ian Bowes

Hello Allie,

Friday, February 18, 2000, 10:56:00 PM, you wrote:

AM Anyway, it would seem to me from what you said above that Ian
AM wishes to write a single message to all recipients in a group with the
AM hope that each recipient will have their unique greeting by name. In
AM that case then I agree that there's no way of doing that. TB! would
AM have to generate separate messages to each recipient on the fly for
AM that to happen.

I have found a way to do it, but it is involved a bit.
Mainly using the /batch command line parameter and a batch file with a
lot of /MAIL commands, pointing to a template, with each persons email
address.

Shame it cannot expand each member in a group, and effectively
perform a 'mail merge' on the message. Templates ALMOST do this.
Except I've got to go through all 30 manually creating new messages.

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Testing - Please ignore

1999-12-07 Thread Ian Gore

Just testing


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Re[3]: Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor)

1999-11-24 Thread Ian Gore

On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 11:21:53 AM, Oleg wrote:

J  If you only use the main ! window then it isn't really neccessary to
J  implent a key for that, as the account tree is a maximum of two
J  tab-presses away. But I still agree it would be useful for
J  folder-view, or if the folders with new mails are far out of each
J  other. Uh, yeah.

 Yes, it is. But the next folder with unread mail is not necessarily
 so close.  Fast  search  is  not of much help there since it works
 on the first  letter only.

I'm not sure how Fast Search helps, but it looks for any occurrence of
the search string, not just the first letter.

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Re[2]: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-24 Thread Ian Gore

On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 9:59:47 PM, Mogens wrote:

 Account name and password must be good too since I can receive OK.

Are they needed by the SMTP server? If you can enter them, then
"Perform SMTP Authenication (sic)" is checked and, as Mark has already
pointed out, it shouldn't be.


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Re[5]: Grunge

1999-10-20 Thread Ian Gore

On Wednesday, October 20, 1999, 7:36:41 AM, J├╝rgen" wrote:


But I think that's okay. What is the sense that messages which I
have sent to the trash should be marked as unread?

Ctrl Shift + (to expand a thread) and Ctrl Shift Backspace (which
deletes a thread) are next to each other on the keyboard. It's easy to
delete a thread by accident (which is what started me on this topic).
Having unread messages highlighted makes it easier to find them.

Let me turn the question round; why bother to switch the highlighting
off?


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Grunge

1999-10-19 Thread Ian Gore





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Re: Grunge

1999-10-19 Thread Ian Gore

On Tuesday, October 19, 1999, 10:20:51 PM, Ian wrote:





 Cheers

 Ian G.



fhfg

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Re: Grunge

1999-10-19 Thread Ian Gore

Sorry folks, I didn't notice that TB! had decided that my e-mail
address is this list rather than my "real" address. But since I'm
here, has anyone noticed a problem with deleting threads using ctrl
shift del? I'm in the process of testing it (hence the garbage mails)
but I don't think the deleted messages are going in the trash folder.

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Re[2]: Grunge

1999-10-19 Thread Ian Gore

On Tuesday, October 19, 1999, 10:29:11 PM, Ian wrote:

 Sorry folks, I didn't notice that TB! had decided that my e-mail
 address is this list rather than my "real" address. But since I'm
 here, has anyone noticed a problem with deleting threads using ctrl
 shift del? I'm in the process of testing it (hence the garbage mails)
 but I don't think the deleted messages are going in the trash folder.


Wrong again! They are going in the trash folder, but they're not
flagged as unread. Is this an option? A bug? A feature?


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Re[3]: Colours

1999-10-17 Thread Ian Gore

On Friday, October 15, 1999, 4:07:18 PM, Thomas wrote:

DF I also think red wasn't bad. Did you try without hi-color icons?

 They can be toggled? How?

Under Options. I'm convinced the "High-Colour Images" appear when the
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Re[2]: Spell checker

1999-10-14 Thread Ian Gore

On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 1:25:16 AM, Steve wrote:

 Adding misspelled strings to the dictionary just means you could
 miss legit problems in the body.

That's why I put "misspelled" in quotes; I was referring to strings
such as (in this case) foreign words that the spell checker is going
to flag, but which are nonetheless valid in the context of the
message.

 TB! is smart enough to remove properly formed sigs so the
 recognition is there.

What constitutes a "properly formed sig"? The spell checker doesn't
take any notice of the "-- " delimiter.

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Re[3]: Spell checker

1999-10-14 Thread Ian Gore

On Wednesday, October 13, 1999, 4:19:48 PM, Christian wrote:


 Why? You can add the "misspelled" strings to the dictionary and that
 way they wont be flagged anywhere. As an added bonus, if you use those
 strings elsewhere but get them wrong, they will be flagged.

 I use English signatures and cookies with my regular (German) mail,
 but I use the German dictionary, of course. Now I don't want to add
 all the cookies to this dictionary - this wouldn't make any sense.

Ah! Point taken! The editor "TextPad" has a feature that allows you to
use .tlx and .clx files to create multilingual spell checkers. Maybe
that would be another option?

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Re[2]: Repost: Dispatch Mail on Server

1999-10-14 Thread Ian Gore

On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 8:26:45 PM, Keith wrote:


 Thanks. So...It appears that even though I have Leave Mail on Server
 enabled, if I've downloaded a message once, Dispatch will no longer
 show it?

Not in my experience, but you have to select the option to show all
mails rather just new ones.

 So this raises the question of how I delete messages left on the
 server.

Show all messages and then select the ones to be deleted.

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Quick Search

1999-10-13 Thread Ian Gore

I've searched and I've searched but I can't find any info on the
"Quick Search" feature. What does it do, and how do I use it? I've
managed to get the little popup to appear, but that's it!

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Filtering Read Messages

1999-10-13 Thread Ian Gore

I'm having problems using filters to delete read messages. The rule is
active, it's not manual only, but it will only work when I select
"re-filter". Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?

Cheers

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Re: Spell checker

1999-10-13 Thread Ian Gore

On Wednesday, October 13, 1999, 10:27:35 AM, Christian wrote:

 There should be an option for the spell checker to ignore signature
 lines (below "-- ").

Why? You can add the "misspelled" strings to the dictionary and that
way they wont be flagged anywhere. As an added bonus, if you use those
strings elsewhere but get them wrong, they will be flagged.

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Re[2]: Confirmation of bug

1999-10-11 Thread Ian Gore

On Monday, October 11, 1999, 10:11:26 AM, Denis wrote:

 In your message dated 11/10/1999 and concerning "Confirmation of bug" you wrote:

SL Just looking for confirmation of this bug.  It appears that 1.36 is not
SL honoring the deferred delivery option in the account settings.  Un/True?

 No. The "put to outbox" and "send" buttons exchanged their places.

There's also the option to use F2 to send mail from the editor.
Steve's right, mail gets sent immediately, even if deferred delivery
has been selected.

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Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-01-16 Thread Ian Gore

On Thursday, November 18, 1999, 3:25:58 AM, Jast wrote:

   This template has 2 problems, one is that the cursor is in the to
 field instead of at the %Cursor position,

  This is normal for new messages...

Problem is it's also normal when creating a message by clicking on an
e-mail address. Why leave the cursor in a field that's already been
filled in?

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