Re: License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Julian
Hello RS (FEDARA),

On Friday, April 27, 2012, 12:38:16 PM, RS (FEDARA) wrote:

 It's  my understanding of the Agreement that you can install it on any
 machine  as  long  as you don't use both of them at the same time (ex:
 desktop as a main and notebook when you travel). When moving data I do
 export TBK from one machine and import it to a newly installed version
 on   the  other  machine. Takes me an hour to move it from one machine
 to  another  but is easier than looking for messages that were already
 filtered out to relevant folders.

Thanks,  RS.  I thought that was the case, but I could not remember. I
used  to  do  the same as you to move data between desktop and laptop,
but have been using IMAP for 5 years now.

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The Bat! v5 Upgrade Experience

2012-01-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TBUDL,

I have been using TB! for many years (12+), but have been holding off
upgrading to Version 5 because of the various problems that I have
seen reported here and on TBBETA, particularly with IMAP. I have 9
IMAP accounts, including a GMail account, so I was worried about how
well v5 would work. I thought that those of you who have similar
concerns about v5 might be interested in the results.

With the latest new version notification (5.0.30) I decided to take
the plunge. I have been very pleased with the results. Everything
continued to work as it should and the differences that I have found
so far have been positive rather than negative. In fact, there are few
obvious differences in my normal use of the software - it looks and
operates almost exactly the same way.

So, if you are holding off on an upgrade because you are afraid that
TB! v5 will not be as good as your current version, my experience is
that the upgrade is painless. If you are expecting a new look and feel to
the software, then v5 is probably not for you, however!

Julian

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Re: Recipients' Addresses Suppression

2009-06-11 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 7:47:28 AM, Chew Yoke Lim wrote:

 If  I have to send e-mail to the same group of people, such as members
 of a society of which I am a member, very often, is there a way of NOT
 having  to insert their addresses each time I send them an e-mail, but
 pick  up  all  the addresses from a distribution list I only have to
 create once?

I  think that you are looking at the Group feature in the addressbook.
You  will  see  in  the addressbook dialog for individuals there is an
entry  for  Group,  so you could define a group of society members and
then  use the mass mailing features to send messages to all members in
that Group.

There  is  more  information  in the help files which is worth reading
carefully as there are some choices about how groups interact with the
main addressbook.

Julian

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NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus

2008-05-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

Maybe just me (running TB on Vista), but since the update to the NOD
virus signature database a short while ago, TheBat is being flagged by
NOD as a virus when it accesses rundll32.exe as Probably a variant of
Unknown virus.

I have reported to NOD.  Anyone else getting this?

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Re: NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus

2008-05-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, 11:41:05 AM, A.Translator wrote:

 I am using NOD32 on Vista and just sent myself a message using TB!
 NOD didn't react, so perhaps it has been corrected. I do not have TheBat! as
 user-agent in my headings.

Not here.  It is now at Version 3120 but I have had to disable NOD to
allow me to do any work.  The NOD forum has lots of messages about the
issue, which not only affect TB, some games, but also Adobe Acrobat
and the Abobe CS3 applications.

Sadly there is no response from NOD on the forums to any of the
message, which hopefully means they are working hard on a solution.

Julian

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Re: NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus

2008-05-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, 12:48:40 PM, A.Translator wrote:

 There is now. They are working on it. I also have a CS3 suite which works 
 fine,
 so not all NOD users are affected.

It is linked to ThreatSense, so if that is disabled then you will not
experience problems.  Database version 3121 is just out and solves the
problems, as far as I can tell.

Julian

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Re: Signatures in plain-text viewer.

2008-01-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, January 10, 2008, 5:31:44 PM, Nick Dutton wrote:

 Am I going mad, or did TB! used to give me the option to specify the
 text style for signature text? It does for sure in the html viewer.

Not in the plain text viewer.  If you de-select Use Plain Text View in
the right click menu of the Message Viewer then the signature text
will be whatever is specified in
Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor|HTML/Windows Editor.

I use the plain text editor, but view in Windows mode to get the
text styles.

Julian

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Re: The Synchronise function

2007-12-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, December 10, 2007, 5:40:12 PM, Chris Wilson wrote:

   I need to synchronise my notebook PC, which currently has a fresh
 Windows install but has not yet had TB! loaded, and my desktop PC which
 has had TB! on for years. I have read the Help file, but am still
 confused, sorry. Can someone run through what I need to do, over a hard
 wired LAN, to get a mirror copy of TB! on the notebook, and then sync
 the 2 daily, again over the LAN, and with it being possible either the
 notebook OR the PC has the more up to date e-mail and stuff within TB!
 at the time of synchronising? Thanks.  I am using 3.99.29 under Windows
 2000

I use the synchronize function between my PC and Laptop to bring my
laptop up to date before I travel.

For the initial install, I would do a backup on the PC and a restore
onto the Laptop.  You may then need to change the Account settings if
you are using a different server when you are travelling.

I generally only do one-way synchronisation copying new mail from my
PC to my laptop. I have the PC set to delete mail on the server after
3 days, and the laptop to leave mail on the server and not delete. The
means that mail that I have received when away is downloaded onto me
PC.  The synchronisation is fairly crude, so I prefer to avoid
transferring back from my laptop to my PC.  This does mean that I have
sent mail on my laptop that is not on the PC, but I used MailBag
Assistant to make periodic archives of both mailbases to these
messages are available.

The synchronisation process is crude.  Specifically, it does not
delete mail, so if you clear lots of mail on the PC and then
synchronize it with the laptop, the corresponding mail will not be
deleted.  Worse, when you synchronize back to the PC, all the deleted
mail will reappear on the PC.  That is why I don't do it!

Finally, some terminology.  The first part of the synchronisation (1)
is done on the machine where you want to copy mail to (the laptop).
The second stage (2) is done on the PC, and the third (3) on the laptop. Allow
plenty of time!  I save all the synchronization files on a shared
folder on my PC which my laptop has access to, and do it across the
network.  If you have a large capacity USB memory stick then you could
use that.

Hope this helps.  Personally, if I were doing the synchronisation as
frequently as you are planning to, I would consider other options,
such as IMAP.  Others will be able to help here.

Julian

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Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24

2007-10-31 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 9:08:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 No clue, but what happens when you upload a 4 MB file to something
 else than a mail server?

Thanks for the response.  I have done some more testing this morning
is discovered:

1. I can upload the same file using FTP without problems
2. I can send the same message using Outlook

Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and
my router config.  I sent the message successfully yesterday from the
office using TB.

Julian

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Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24

2007-10-31 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 9:47:48 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and
 my router config.  I sent the message successfully yesterday from the
 office using TB.

I have tested this.  It appears to be a problem with The Bat! and my
Router (a D-Link DIR-655).  I can send messages without problems using
my DSL modem plugged directly into my laptop.  It is only when the
modem is connected to the router that I have problems.

It is totally strange!

The next test is to roll back a version or 2 of TB and see whether it
is a recent problem.

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Strange Email Problems 3.99.24

2007-10-29 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I am not sure that this problem is TB! related, but since it appeared
since I upgraded to 3.99.24 a few weeks ago, I thought I would ask
here.

My DSL connection goes down when I send emails with attachments.  It
appears to be size related - if the message is more than around 3.9Mb
then the my DSL connection is lost at that point.  The send fails, and
I have to wait for my router/DSL model to re-establish a connection.

I am stumped by this.  My ISP does not appear to have any limits in
place that would cause my connection to be cut off, but my router does
not tell me much other than a log entry to say that the WAN Interface
is down.  I have tried my ISP's email servers and my backup email
servers via SMPTAUTH with the same effect.

Any clues anyone?

Julian

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Re: Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow

2007-05-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 10:44:57 PM, Andrew Diederich wrote:

 Hmm, maybe you actually figured out how it worked.  'Way back in
 3.80.06 I tried syncing my TB! and Voyager clients using Tools 
 Synchronize...  but it only nuked things in strange and interesting
 ways.

It is a bit challenging, as synchronisation does not mean the same in
TB! as it does in, say, Laplink, where there is a transfer of files
both ways.

Basically, TB! copies messages that are not one the target machine
(the one where you run Step A) from the source machine (the one at
Step B). It is a one-way process and it only adds messages and does
not delete them. The messages have to be in the same location, so you
can end up with duplicates if your messages are moved by a filter on
one machine and not on the other.

My synch plan is as follows - an example probably helps!:

1  I want to bring my laptop up to date with messages that I have
   received on my PC since I last used it. I therefore start running
   the synch process on my laptop with Step 1 - the file is copied to
   a shared folder on my PC, across the network, although it would
   also work saving it to a usb memory stick.

2  Step 2 is run on my PC - this takes the file created in step 1 and
   identifies all the messages that are on the PC but not on the
   laptop, and copies them to the next Synch file.

3  The final step, Step 3, is run on the laptop. This copies all the
   messages not on the laptop (in the same account/folder) into the
   locations they are on the PC.

That is it - all the messages on my PC are now on my laptop.

There are a couple of things to note:

- It is assumed that the account and folder structures are the same,
  and that the same filters are operating on both machines. I used to
  wipe my laptop message base every few months and then restore it
  from the PC to ensure that the folders and filters are the same, but
  I don't bother now. If the structures are different, you will end up
  with a mess!

- The process is one way - Messages not in the machine on which you
  run step 1 are copied from the machine in Step 2. If you want to do
  a two-way synch you have to run Synch again, starting with the other
  machine at Step 1.

- The process does not delete messages. If I were to spend a lot of
  time cleaning the message base on my laptop, and then run a synch
  with my laptop at Step 1, it will copy all the messages back again.
  the process only looks for missing messages and copies them.

- It does not appear to work with filters and account settings,
  despite what it says. It does work with the address book however. You
  have to copy filters manually, or recreate them manually.

I don't synch in the other direction (from Laptop to PC), as all the
messages are held on the server and I download them when I am next at
my PC.

I hope that this helps

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Re: Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow

2007-05-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 11:33:54 PM, Andrew Diederich wrote:

 How are you syncing between those two?  For voyager I make a file
 backup to whatever my local computer is, in case I lose the usb drive.
 TB! support told be Tools  Synchronize... was really for something
 else, and was going to be dropped.

I hope it is not going to be dropped - I use it all the time! I use
two computers, and I use Synchronize to ensure that the messagebase on
my laptop matches the messagebase on my PC. It is usually just a
one-way transfer across my network, from PC to Laptop - I use a shared
folder on my PC to hold the synch files.

Julian

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Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow

2007-05-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I have just installed 3.99.3 and am doing my first synchonize between
my PC and Laptop with this version.  It is really slow, and eats
resources.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Previous versions have
been getting faster, so this appears to be a step backwards.

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Re: Attachments

2007-04-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:00:57 PM, Henri Maussang wrote:

 The progress bar is complete (green) in few seconds, but the
 connection Center stays on.

This probably means that the sending process is not completing.  There
are no specific size limits in TheBat!, but your ISP may apply limits
to either email message sizes or attachment types.  Can you send via a
different ISP or via Webmail?

I sometimes have this problem, but have not found a particular cause.
Try opening the message again and then putting it back into the Outbox
before sending. Also have a look at the log (Account|View Log or
ctrl+shift+A) to see if there is an explanation. Is the email address
valid? Have you sent other messages successfully to that address?

Julian

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Re: Problem Getting File Associations to Stick

2007-03-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, March 22, 2007, 11:55:09 AM, Bob Morris wrote:

 I think that you may have fixed my problem.  Internet Explorer (which
 I rarely use) had Outlook set as the default e-mail program and
 contact list, even though I had the file associations set in Windows
 as belonging to The Bat!  After resetting Internet Explorer to agree
 with the settings at My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/File Options my
 desired setting now appear to be sticking.  I will keep fingers
 crossed - Mr Microsoft doesn't seem to want to let go of any rights
 without a big fight :-) .

I use Outlook in the same way that you do. You will find that Outlook
resets itself to be the default email programme on a regular basis -
many Office updates via Microsoft Update reset the default email
client, including updates of the Outlook Junk Mail list. There are
instructions on stopping this happening at the following location
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=933450 but Brian Livingstone
(http://windowssecrets.com/) suggests that it is easier to reset it
manually.

Julian

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Re: sorting of messages in threads

2006-10-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, October 2, 2006, 10:04:28 PM, Robin Anson wrote:

 What does ctrl-] actually do? I tried looking for the shortcut in the
 menus, but couldn't find it.

Next unread message either in Thread, Account or another account in
that order. You can view all your unread messages in turn by using
Ctrl-] - it is my favourite TB! keyboard shortcut!

Julian

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Marking Messages as SPAM in Macro

2006-09-27 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I am using AntipamSniper to filter spam, which is fairly successful
against the rising tide of vgr, pump  dump and bank phishing spam
messages.

I report via Spamcop, so I have a common filter that forwards messages
on to Spamcop. I wanted to automatically mark messages as Spam in the
same filter to catch some of the ones not caught by AntispamSniper,
but I cannot find a macro action for this. Any ideas?

I was going to look at MyMacros, but I cannot find a working link to
this. Does anyone have one?


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Re: [n]

2006-09-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 11:17:16 PM, Paul Jansen wrote:

 How can I turn off the number in [] after the the Re when replying to
 messages.   It seems to be messing up the threading for people not
 using The Bat and I would like to have the choice whether to use this
 facility or not.

Go to Account Properties for the account(s) in question.  Go down to
Templates, then Reply (you may need to expand the Templates list to
see this) and uncheck the checkbox second up from the
bottom - Use reply numbering in subject line.

Julian

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Re: Ignoring URL's whilst Spellchecking

2006-03-21 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, March 20, 2006, 6:04:18 PM, Paul Meathrel wrote:

 One would hope so. Maybe someone else will have a bright idea! :)

Is is linked to the viewer/editor you are using?  I don't use the Plain Text
Viewer when viewing messages, but I do use Plain Text (MicroEd) when I
edit messages.  Perhaps this is related in some way?

My spellchecker does not check URLs.

Julian

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Re: Address AutoComplete Option Location

2006-02-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, February 16, 2006, 4:29:48 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

   Options - Preferences - Message header - [select your header] - Edit - 
 'Editing' tab

Ahhh. I suppose it makes sense to put it here (its certainly more
flexible), but the Help file still refers to its old location. Thanks
for the pointer.

Julian

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Address AutoComplete Option Location

2006-02-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

Can anyone tell me where the Address AutoComplete option for the
Message Window now hides. It used to appear under
Options|Preferences|System, but it does not any longer. The latest
version appears to have reset my original settings (Addressboook only)
and I want to set it back.

On the subject of this, the Autocomplete drop down list does not seem
to work very intuitively. In most applications I can select the item I
want by using the down arrow key to select the item I want and then
use [TAB] to select it. In TB! this moves onto the next field (CC: in
my case) without selecting the highlighted field. This has resulted in
a few emails that have gone to the wrong person recently. Is just me,
or do others feel that the process if selecting items does not follow
Windows conventions?

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Synchronisation Problems

2006-02-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I have been having problems with Synchronisation over the last couple
of releases of TB! When I attempt stage 3 of the synchronization
process, I get file errors Error Reading File  - if I try
several times, I will eventually get through the process, but I end up
with many thousands of duplicates. In my latest attempt, one of my
accounts went from 4,000 messages to 20,000 and I had to abandon the
synchronisation attempt in the end.

Is this just me?  Being able to synchronize TB! between my desktop
machine and my laptop has been very important to me, and has worked
perfectly for several years.  Something in the recent releases appears
to have broken it.


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Re: Sending large attachments to Hotmail/Yahoo?

2005-10-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, October 17, 2005, 8:47:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 There's been a bug that split without caring about the setting of that
 option, I don't recall whether that was only in a beta, the way to go
 around that was to set the suggested size very high.

It is in the release version I am using (3.51.10) - I recently had to
resend a batch of 20 large emails because TB! split them all and they
were rejected by the recipients' mail servers. I have now set the split
size at 9000Kb.

Julian

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Re: what's the cheapest way to get a TB license?

2005-08-24 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 7:07:24 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote:

 My girlfriend used to use TB! here on my PC for her mails, but now
 she got herself a notebook and AFAIK she can't use my TB on that,
 right? She wants to switch to Opera M2 or Thunderbird and I want to keep or 
 using TB.

I thought that the TB licence allowed it to be installed on a laptop
as well as a desktop machine as long as you were not using both at the
same time.  I cannot find the original license text to verify this,
however.

I need to installed the updated v3.51 on my wife's laptop (separate
license) later, so I will see what the license agreement says.

Julian

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Re: Email Program Survey - TB! Missing

2005-08-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, August 4, 2005, 3:14:41 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 The Email Essential's Newsletter is running a survey on the email
 software that people are using.  TB! is missing from the list of
 options, although you can add it under Other (perhaps this will make
 it appear as an option if enough people name it).

The votes are in.  7,147 votes were submitted in total, and the
results, in summary, are:

Outlook 2003 - 28%
Outlook Express 6 - 15%
Thunderbird - 13%

The Bat! came in at 1%

The votes may be more a reflection of the readership of Email
Essentials - the use of Outlook 2003 (so the most recent version of
Office) and the high percentage use of Thunderbird suggests that the
7,147 may not be a representative sample, although I could be wrong on
that.

You can read more about Email Essentials, and probably read the
newsletter with the results (EE #3.14 - Reader poll results) on
http://office-watch.com/email/index.asp

Julian

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Email Program Survey - TB! Missing

2005-08-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

The Email Essential's Newsletter is running a survey on the email
software that people are using.  TB! is missing from the list of
options, although you can add it under Other (perhaps this will make
it appear as an option if enough people name it).

Details are copied below

,- [ Quote from Email Essentials Newsletter #3.13]
| [...] Naturally there are many other choices like Eudora, Netscape
| Messenger, Opera email, Pegasus and Incredimail (recently reviewed in
| Email Essentials ). There’s others plus those used by our friends with
| Macintosh computers. It would be interesting to know more about the
| usage of email software, so we’re having the first Office Watch reader
| poll – the first of many we hope.
| 
| You can take part by clicking on this link
| http://office-watch.com/poll-ee-313.asp
| 
| We’ve made the poll simple and quick to complete. Just click on the
| email program that you mostly use and then click on the Poll button at
| the bottom of the page.
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Re: Mark as read time configurable

2004-11-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, November 13, 2004, 10:41:40 AM, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:

 I already have the time set to zero (see attached screenshot), but
 there's still a pause after I open the message.

I thought that zero meant never marked unread, but I could be wrong.
Try blank, as this seems to mark as read immediately.

You cannot send attachments to the list.

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Re: Empty Mail

2004-10-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 11:44:19 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 HEY!! Anyone else reading this thread who's seen TB empty a mail on
 delivery? I've not seen that happen. Nobody's leaping in to say yeah,
 TB always does that. If somebody can support one or other side of
 this debate it would help.

I have not seen TB empty a mail exactly, but I have problems with TB!
(or something along the way that affects only TB!) changing the Part
boundaries of messages so the file names do not appear correctly.

For example, I got the following message which when the source is
viewed shows the following boundary:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@13161
 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Draft
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

The problem is that the name should actually be Draft Cheshire
Supporting People Eligibility Criteria v2.8.doc, but it gets chopped
at the first space in the file name, so in the Attachment panel it
appears as Draft and I have to rename it before I can open it. This
only happens with one organisation, which suggests a peculiarity with
their setup, but notwithstanding this, Outlook, OE and Popcorn all
report the file name properly.

Unfortunately I do not have an example downladed in another email
client at the moment - I will test it again when one next arrives -
but I recall that this content boundary only appeared to be truncated
in TB!, that it is either TB! or the interaction of TB! and something
else that is causing the problems.

I created a bug report at the time this started affecting me:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2043

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Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six

2004-10-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:07:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Having got v3.0.1.33 and running POPFile I find the same problem over
 checking more than six email accounts occurs.

 I.e: TB log reports 'could not connect to mail server' for any more
 than six accounts being checked at the same time.

 Can anyone offer a way round this? I have to check all accounts
 individually to be sure all have been checked.

Is this a problem with Popfile rather than TB?  I can check 11
accounts at the same time without problems using TB! and SpamPal.

Julian

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Re: 2nd REPOST: Problems with S/MIME

2004-10-06 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 11:36:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunately, it's increasingly looking likely that I'm the only
 one (so far) suffering from this problem. I guess it doesn't look
 too hopeful I'll be able to resolve it.  :(

No, I tried generating a self-cert certificate and it failed for the
same reason, so you are not alone.  I too am using the Pro version, so
maybe the problem is as you and Marck have suggested.

Do you want to post a bug report and post the details here so I can
support it?

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Re: Mail aliases

2004-09-30 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, September 30, 2004, 4:29:56 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 OK. But nevertheless, the way TB! handles alias addresses could be improved
 IMHO. There should be an easier way to pick alias addresses (if you have
 many and switch them often) other than selecting a folder that has the
 correct identity (which sounds like a workaround to me).

Try Options|Active Account in the message editor window, or right
click on the account name shown in the status bar at the bottom of the
message editor window.  If you change the account before you enter any
text into the body of the message, it will apply the new default
account template/sig.

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Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail

2004-09-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 9:38:39 AM, Nick Dutton wrote:

 Have you tried telnet?  It's always my first step when having
 problems like this.

Or you could try something like Popcorn, which is a small email client
which works with mail on the server - a bit like an advanced Message
Despatcher.

There used to be a freeware version which unlimited accounts (which I
might be able to find and send you).  It now costs USD20 and the
freeware version is limited to one account.  Still useful for
emergencies, however.

http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn/


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Version 3 Bug?

2004-09-07 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I have been using version 3 (Pro) for a couple of days. Overall, it is
good, particularly the new file system, and worth buying a few upgrade
licences for (IMO).

I have found a problem with a new filter I have created (for TBBETA).
The filter is an Incoming filter, and moves incoming TBBETA messages to my
mailing lists email account into the TBBETA folder. However, when a
message arrives, the selected (active) folder view jumps from whatever
I was reading at the time to the inbox of the JBLists account. This is
OK if I am not doing anything at the time, but irritating if I am
looking through another folder (in another account) when the focus
moves.

I have also noticed that the mail ticker flashes up very briefly when
the message arrives in the account Inbox (where the ticker is enabled)
and then disappears again as the message is filtered to the TBBETA
folder (where the ticker is not enables. This does not happen for any
other messages.

Can anyone confirm these, or have I missed a setting somewhere? I have
only been subscribed to TBBETA for a day, so if there were any
messages before about these problems, I will have missed them.

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Ritlabs News Bounce Messages (WAS: Re: emails are getting complicated)

2004-09-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, September 3, 2004, 8:53:06 AM, Tom Duda wrote:

 This all began when I purchased a license for  The Bat! v3.0. I
 received in good time both expected emails, inluding the one with my
 registration keys. Then I received a third email telling me that
 because a sertain staff member was on vacation the email that I'd
 written to him had been forwareded to someone else.

These messages are not being sent in response to any message that you
have sent to the Ritlabs News mailing list.  They are coming from the
Ritlabs News mailing list, which you must have subscribed to when you
said you wanted to be sent news and annoucements from Ritlabs.

What is happening is that bounced messages to the RitLabs News mailing
list address are being sent back out to the whole mailing list. This
seems to be because these messages (I have had 3) are being bounced to
the From: address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the
Sender address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

You can either blame the RitLabs News mailing list setup, which
probably should not be possible to reply to as the messages should
only come from Ritlabs and not from members of the list, or you can
blame the people who are bouncing messages back to the list address
and not the bounced mail address.

The evils of Out of Office replies!

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the
 bottom of this email.

Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig
should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once
you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this.

Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses
TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which
they will have to manually chop in replies.


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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, July 5, 2004, 7:50:39 AM, Allister Jenks wrote:

 My point was that Office is a less than ideal choice. But then if it
 works for you, I see no reason you shouldn't use it.  Just be aware that
 Office is as much an HTML editor by design as TB!.

This reminds me of the following, which was posted by Thomas on TBOT
back in the mists of time:

On Friday, August 2, 2002, 7:46:43 PM, Thomas F. wrote:

 FAQ on the web page developers' site:

 Q: How do I protect my work so that people cannot copy the code?

 A: You can't. But if you use FrontPage, nobody will *want* to copy it.

Insert your favourite Office application in place of FrontPage. :-)


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Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising

2004-07-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 9:55:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But don't you the have emails that have been deleted from the DT but
 are still on the LT?

That is why I occasionally restore a backup from the desktop onto the
laptop, as this gets the message bases back into synch.

 What is a 'reserve synch' - do you mean you individually select
 folders for synching - i.e: just the 'Sent Mail' folders? If yes: then
 that's a bit of a pain for 35+ accounts.

I do, but I don't have a large number of accounts (about 10) and I
don't do it very often.

 By 'reinstall' you mean Registry entries and the 'MAIL' directory?

The built-in backup routine does not include the Registry entries, so
I just restore the mail folders.  I suppose that I could do this by
copying the mail directories (or even using Laplink).  One problem is
that this process usually resets the filters, so they have to be
re-pointed at the correct folders again.

 Interesting, but how does LapLink keep track of what's been deleted so
 it knows to delete it from the other machine?

It does not, so it will try to copy back across the messages that have
been deleted from the laptop.  Laplink does true synchronisation, so
will copy either way depending on timestamps and its own database of
synch'd files.


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Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising

2004-07-01 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 8:50:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone has the energy and perspicacity to see their way through the
 trials and tribulations I have been through I would welcome realistic
 advice.

I have had a look through, and I am not sure if my arrangement will
help.

I have a similar situation, with a Desktop PC and a Laptop. I use the
laptop whilst travelling, and this can use a variety of SMTP settings
depending on where I am accessing the internet from (office LAN,
mobile, or home network).

My current arrangement is to synchronize all messages from the desktop
to the laptop whenever i go away.  This ensures that i have all the
messages that I send and received on my desktop machine are with me
when I go away.

I have set both machines to leave messages on the server for 3 days,
which ensures that I get the messages to both machines, and in
particular that I can leave both machines running and still collect
mail on the laptop.

If there are sent messages that I need to transfer from the laptop to
the desktop, then I occasionally do a reserve synch of sent messages
from the laptop to the desktop.

I keep the desktop clear of old messages, and occasionally backup the
desktop installation, and reinstall it onto the laptop, which brings
the messages back into synch.  This does mean I lose the laptop
account settings, so I don't do it very often.

I find this arrangement quite workable.  It would be better to have
true synchronisation (I use Laplink, but it does not sound like it
works at the level of the software you use), as it would deal with
deleted mail, but even Laplink struggles with this, and will attempt
to recopy deleted files and folders.

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Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...

2004-06-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:07:44 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 X-Ray http://www.xrayapp.com/, a little utility for The Bat! has the
 ability to choose SMTP server to use based on your machine's IP
 address. Could that help?

I used x-ray for this purpose on my laptop, but found that after some
changes to the network at the office, which uses Exchange, the
connection to the smtp server for the office was always rejected when
it went via X-Ray, although it worked perfectly when I entered exactly
the same information directly into TB!s smtp settings.

I have since found that my ISP offers SMTPAUTH for use when not
directly connected to the ISP's network, so I use this on the laptop.
This is very convenient, as I can send mail via my ISP however I am
connecting to the internet.

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Re: What toes this tick mean?

2004-06-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 3:28:23 PM, Alexander Gladilin wrote:

 There was an attachment with a picture (1KB), but it has disappeared!
 I  mean  a  tick  on  the field message flags: there is a picture of
 letter with a tick at the right top corner.

It means that the message has been signed using PGP MIME or SMIME. You
will see a corresponding tick in the message header section of the
preview pane (the far right), and you will get details of the
signature if you click on this, assuming you have the relevant
software (PGP) installed.

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Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer

2004-06-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:34:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I
 think!)   I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to
 wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement
 office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability.  I expect
 the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime,
 I can access TBUDL through other channels.

I have installed TB! in circumstances similar to yours without
problems. In my case I keep all my downloaded files in a shared folder
on my PC, which is accessible to other computers (laptops) on a peer
to peer network which connects through an ADSL Router.

In think that given the problems you are having, I would be tempted to
download the TB! installation program direct from Ritlabs to your
laptop and install from there. It sounds a bit like you have copied
the TB executable to the laptop, rather than the installation package,
which is why you are having problems.

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:08:39 PM, Armin Mutscheller wrote:

 I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
 but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
 messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
 really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
 folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
 when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
 number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
 behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
 system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
 folders are imported properly.

What you could try is importing the data via Outlook Express.  It is
not as simple as a direct import, but the transfer between Outlook
and Outlook is painless.

I am not sure why there should be a problem with Exchange, but is
guess the problem is that the message storage if you are using Outlook
with Exchange is different, and messages and data are held on the
server, rather than locally.

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Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, June 13, 2004, 12:54:28 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Hmmm. This shouldn't be the case. It should open and I confirm your
 problem. Seems like a bug. Can anyone else confirm this. I'll bring it
 up on TBBETA

I cannot confirm this. Double-clicking on the HTML file results in the
opening warning. If I choose YES (to save the file) I can then open it
in my browser (Mozilla) and it will open the message and the remote
images, showing the local file location as the URL
(file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/*.*/My%20Documents/Message.html).
Answering NO will open the message in Mozilla and get the remote
images, but shows TB's temp directory as the URL
(file:///C:/DOCUME~1/*~1.***/LOCALS~1/Temp/bat/4C6370E5.html).
Perhaps it is an IE problem?

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Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, June 13, 2004, 1:59:34 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Ok. Your not confirming hastened my efforts to check further. I
 changed my default browser from Netcaptor to Opera and it works now.

Is the problem with Message.html attachments that you open directly
from TB (without saving first) or do you get the same problem with
messages that you have previously saved?  If the latter, then it would
suggest that it is a system default browser problem rather than TB! as
TB! would not be involved.

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Re: Get rid of X-mailer header.

2004-06-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:55:47 AM, nednieuws|charles wrote:

 Is there a way to do it?

Yes, Options|Preferences|General and deselect Show X-Mailer Heading in
Messages.  This is a global setting, so affects all accounts.


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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat.  I have
 downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why?
 What does it really do for me?  Anyone have any good Kludge filters to
 use with it?  Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers?  Any ideas?

There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray.  One is that is
allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a
quite sophisticated program in this respect.

The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and
may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this
case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray
can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For
example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL)
and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending
on the IP address the laptop had been allocated.

I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so
I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am
connected to.

Hope this helps!

[ps - your sig delimited is broken.  It should be [dash][dash][space]

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Re: Opening url with non-default browser

2004-05-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 10:44:06 PM, Chris wrote:

 I'll have to agree with you. Now if The Bat! had a built-in browser...

...we could call it Outlook!

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Re: Problem with Initials in replies

2004-05-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, May 15, 2004, 5:00:54 PM, rich gregory wrote:

 I'll not use that one! BUT I do need one like that... I also have
 bracketed text added to my subject line that always needs to be
 removed when I from reply.

Is that the [2] as in Re[2]: Problem with Initials in replies?  If
so, you can turn this off for the account in question by going to
Account Properties, then Templates|Reply and unticking Use reply
numbering in the subject line.  I am not sure of the purpose of this
option, which seems to be turned on by default, but it quickly becomes
confusing.

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Re: Help! Disappearing address book.

2004-05-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, May 14, 2004, 9:41:24 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 The only thing I can imagine is that it's placed outside of your
 desktop. Have you (or somebody else on your pc) been playing with the
 screen resolution?

Mac have a utility available called DragAnyWindow which allows
off-sreen windows to be easily found and dragged back into view.
There does not seem to be anything similar available for Windows, for
which there seems to be an equal need!

Does the Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Address
selector have anything to do with the window position? It appears to
have a set of window co-ordinates. Mine are currently (in decimal)

Height 362
Left 302
Separation 249
Top 250
Width 548

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Re: download progress indicator

2004-05-12 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, May 12, 2004, 2:55:04 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 That happened to me too, while downloading a 33 MB message with
 2.04.07  Don't know whether it worked with previous versions, since my
 messages are generally being downloaded without any human
 supervision.

Is this linked to your anti-virus software? I get the same, but I
think that the progress bar is triggered when the message is first
seen by TB! but that TB! does not get the rest of the messsage from
the antivirus software (in my case Norton AntiVirus 2004) until the
antivirus software has downloaded the whole thing and scanned it.

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Re: I have a problem..

2004-04-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, April 23, 2004, 3:06:18 AM, malexander wrote:

 I use Second Copy too. But I have it set to do a continuous back up
 (well, almost) every 20 mins and that includes my message base.

The problem with this is that you do not have a history to roll back
to, for example, you delete some vital messages from the message base,
but don't realise for 1 day. By then, your backup will have been
over-written several times.

I use 12-Ghosts Backup for things that I need a history of.  You can
set items to continuously back up, creating a copy once a minute,
hour, day, week and month.  This means I have a history of revisions
going back as far as I want.  This could be difficult with a complete
message base (unless you have a *very* big hard disk), but you could do
it on a particular account or folder.

http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/backup.htm

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Re: Synchronize?

2004-04-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, April 19, 2004, 6:44:30 AM, Susanne wrote:

 Well, we now both have the same version of TB, but the
 synchronizing *still* doesn't work.

 Did the steps I described in my first mail sound correct, or
 am I doing something wrong there?

The steps you list sound correct.  There are a couple of things you
could check:

- Are all the accounts you want to synchronize selected?  It sounds
obvious, but I missed an account on a few occasions!

- Synchronisation will only work between identical folder structures and
it will not, as far as I know, create folders on the destination
machine if they do not already exist.  The same appears to go for
accounts.

- You need to make sure that both machines are using the same files!  I
spent a frustrating 1/2 hour on one occasion wondering why my new
messages would not appear on the target machine until I realised that
I had not connected the network cable, so the machine was using an old
synchronisation file!

Hope this helps.

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Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook

2004-03-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, March 19, 2004, 2:41:03 PM, Kevin Coates wrote:

 Ah, I think I understand now. So I needn't worry which machine I
 download mail with as long as I synchronize periodically. Thanks for
 the explanation.

The other thing to remember to TB! synch is that it is one way each
time, that is, when you run the first stage of the synch on the laptop
it compares the laptop with the PC and then copies any messages on the
PC but not the laptop onto the laptop, but will not copy messages not
on the PC from the laptop. This means that you will have to run the
synch twice to get a full synchronisation of both machines.  The other
thing to note is that the process only copies files, but does not
delete, so if you have deleted a load of messages on the laptop, and
then run a PC, they won't be deleted from the PC and could be copied
back to the laptop.

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Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol

2004-03-07 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, March 6, 2004, 9:11:28 AM, David Stone wrote:

 I did notice that the email from you showed the € as a square with
 spokes on each corner which I think is alt0164 ¤. Did you generate it
 with alt0164, or with alt-Gr 4 which is what I used?

€ is created with Crtl-Alt-4 and ¤ is created with alt0164.  € is
produced by AltGr-4.

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Displaying the Euro Symbol

2004-03-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I get mail from a daily news email that includes currency symbols.
Whilst the GBP and USD signs appear as they should, the Euro symbol
always appears as a code, as below:

 Eircom valued at up to #8364;1.3bn after pricing
 
 Eircom, Ireland's largest telecommunications operator, set a price
 range of #8364;1.48 to #8364;1.75 per share for its IPO, valuing the
 company at up to #8364;1.26bn.

Is this a problem with the email message itself, the Character Set I
am viewing it in, or the font?

(Of course, if the problem is with my settings, then you may see Euro
symbols above, and not the code.  The code is  #8364; - I have
added a space after the  to stop it being interpreted.)


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Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol

2004-03-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, March 5, 2004, 12:02:21 PM, David Stone wrote:

 Perhaps the original news item is written in HTML and then converted
 into text-only along the way. I think that the  #8364; is an HTML
 special code like  nbsp; is for non-breaking space.

That is the probable answer.  £ and $ are not special characters, so
would not need to be shown this way.  The ¤ sign appeared fine in your
message, so it suggests that it is a problem with the incoming email
message, rather than my settings.

Thanks!

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Re: Mass mail using data from Excel

2004-02-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, February 19, 2004, 9:09:07 AM, Neil wrote:

 So apart from import CSV into TB AB group then Run QT in TB from AB
 group to create email in Outbox there is no other way??

If you don't *have* to use TB!, what about other software to do this.
Have a look at http://mach5-mailer.com/products/mailer/features.php

There is a free version of this software, which limited the mailing to
200 messages per sessions, but that might be sufficient for you.

You could also try the following, which looks like it uses the default
MAPI email client:

http://www.j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/tip86.htm
 

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-06 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:26:06 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those
 two buttons work as expected here...

Just to add to the people without problems with a logitech mouse, I
have a MX700, and this works almost perfectly with TB!, using version
9.79 of Mousewere. I can confirm what Bill has noted, and the cruise
up/down buttons do not work in the preview pane, although the normal
wheel does.

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Re: Can I import TB into Outlook?

2004-01-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, January 4, 2004, 4:28:52 AM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:

 Unfortunately, my employer has recently decided to disable pop access
 forcing me to use their exchange server via Outlook.  Problem is, I've been
 using TB for my work mail for a while now and have thousands of messages
 which I need to refer back to from time to time.  Is there a way to import
 TB messages into Outlook?  I looked under export, but none of the file
 formats seem to be supported by Outlook.  

I use TB to directly access the Exchange Server, so I can continue to
use TB to send and receive work email.  I found that just adding the
name of our Exchange Server in the Mail Server box in the account
properties|transport worked fine with my logon details.

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Re: no certificate button

2003-11-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 6:32:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 oh, I didn't mention that I already tried to re-install the last
 release,2.1.03 and it still didn't make my certificate button reappear..
 so it might be a beat issue, but even using a known release I don't have
 one.

I am using Windows XP but an earlier version of TB than you are, and
my certificates button appears as it should.  Your sig still suggests
that you are using a TB beta, so perhaps that is still the issue.

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, 3:52:42 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
JBL `-

 As this is the incoming message, I don't think it's TB's fault, when
 looking to this I can't get any further than 'CRB' as the file name

When I tested this by looking at the message source before it was
downloaded, I found the full file name.  It seems to be a problem with
the way the TB is handling the message once received that is causing
the problems.

 Do you have your TB mail processed by an extra tool, spam filter,
 whatever that's leaving Outlook's mail alone?

I have tried downloading the same messages with SpamPal disabled, with
the same result, so that does not seem to be the source of the
problem.

As I said, I am not sure how far this is TB's fault, as it is
probably a badly configured server at the other end that is causing
the problems, be I don't think TB should be truncating the file names,
particularly when other MUAs don't.

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 1:44:13 PM, Gerard wrote:

 I am not sure it is TB! hat is causing this because the name in the
 section is just Daily. See below.
 The full name is not to be seen anywere, so how i TB! to know?
 I always assumed it was a problem with the sender.

 ,- [  ]
 | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Daily
 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 `-

I thought that, but Outlook downloads the message with the full file
name, so why not the TB?

[pauses to check using Popcorn]

The problem seems to be TB. Using Popcorn to look at the mail, I get
the following headers, which include the full file name:

,- [ Output from Popcorn Mail Client ]
| To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting
| Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7]
| 
| 
| Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc
| [snip message text]
| 
| 
| begin 600 Haringey Tender final.doc
| MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_00
| MQ00`$```QP0```$```#^`+L$``\!```O00``+X$
| M``_!```P`0``,$$``#!```PP0``,0$``#8!```604``/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@8`
`-

This is what I get in TB:

,- [ Copy of Headers in TB ]
| To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting
| Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7]
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| 
|Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc
| [snip body text]
| 
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Haringey
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| 
| 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAQxQQA
| EAAAxwQAAAEAAAD+ALsEAAC8BAAAvQQAAL4EAAC/BAAAwAQAAMEEAADCBAAA
| wwQAAMQEAADYBAAAWQUAAP8FAAB6BgAAxgYAAFIHAAD/
`-

Something is happening when TB works out the file name from the
footer, and I think that the problem is related to 8 bit messages, as
I see that yours has the same octet-stream content type.

Does anyone else have this problem?  Is there a way to force TB to
send 8 bit messages so I can test?

Julian

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 9:16:25 PM, David Boggon wrote:

 There are some check boxes I don't understand in the 'options' tab of
 the sorting office... like Check the selected message against this
 rule and Regular expressions, both of which are unchecked.

I have problems getting the spam filter to work at times, usually
because of tickbox problems.

My current set up, which works, is:

Rule is:
[x] Active
[x] Manual Only

On Options sheet
[x] Execute using Hot Key
[x] Check Selected message against rule
[ ] This rule is executed only by pressing the hot key

The Check Selected option limits the filter to just the selected
message(s) and the Executed Only option is to stop it running when you
re-filter (I think)

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Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

The messages are fine if downloaded in Outlook - the problem only
appears to affect this one organization (suggesting a misconfiguration
somewhere), and only TB (which probably means that TB is handling the
messages properly, and Outlook is not!).

I think that this might be another Base64 problem, as the messages are
encoded as Base64, whilst messages I have no problems with tend to be
7-bit.

Has anyone else come across this?

Julian

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, November 14, 2003, 5:12:31 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

JBL I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
JBL names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
JBL that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

 Haven't seen this before.
 Could you post the headers of the attachment section of a faulty
 message? You can see those only when you're viewing the source. (Press F9)

It does not tell you very much, but here it is (addresses munged)!

,- [ Message Headers ]
| Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| From: xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: x Tender
| Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:52:51 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2003 13:09:03.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F67D450:01C3A9E7]
| X-Bayesian-Result: Clean (0) 
| X-Bayesian-Words: 07970 0 608348 0 7330 0 7697 0 86yd 0 9170 0 addressee 0 attached 0
| X-SpamPal: PASS
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
`-

,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
`-

As an experiment, I tried forwarding the message from Outlook to
another email account, and downloaded it with TB.  The files came
across perfectly.

This this the file boundary of the message when I shows properly in
TB, after forwarding from Outlook:

,- [ File Boundary - message forwarded from Outlook (same file) ]
| --=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3AAF7.A920D0D0
| Content-Type: application/msword;
| name=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| Content-Disposition: attachment;
| filename=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc
`-

I am not sure what the problem is, but I wonder if it is related to it
being 8 bit?  I guess that is what the Content-Type:
application/octet-stream; name=CRB means.  I suspect that it is a
problem with the sender's set up, but I am not sure why it is
upsetting TB!  Probably something Microsoft did!

Julian

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Re: replies and cutlines

2003-11-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, November 13, 2003, 4:40:15 PM, ken green wrote:

 It's pretty close.  I have QTs that allow me to top or bottom post.  But
 the problem I run into is that once the cut mark and text below is
 deleted from a reply, that text is gone.  I guess I need to fiddle with
 my templates.

Use the %OTEXT macro instead of %QUOTES in your reply.  This quotes
the full text, including the sig.  I have this in my business top
quoting template, as below:

== Original Message ===
Date: %ODateEn at %OTimeLongEn
From: %OFROMNAME (%OFROMADDR)
Subject: %OSUBJ

%otext

=== End of Original Message ===


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Re: Why isn't the message being PGP-signed?

2003-11-12 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 12:12:36 PM, Mark Partous wrote:

 is being appended to:
 %FROMADDR%- in the resulting message so that I get

 Mark Partous/380.50.30 instead of the expected:

 Mark Partous
 02/380.50.30

List seems quiet today, so I will answer this:

The missing line feed is due to the %- at the end of your %FROMADDR
macro.  The %- suppresses the line feed after the macro, so if you
remove it, you will get the results you want.

Julian

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Re: Newbie here ... how does one read messages in an off-line mode?

2003-11-06 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, November 6, 2003, 6:47:03 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

 Maybe they're thinking the way I am. I see no reason whatsoever to
 suspend auto mail collection unless it gets in the way of another
 application. There is no cost issue with BB. If you have no programs
 at all running it is still on If it does get in the way, just close
 it. If your working with TB! then auto mail polling can be made
 completely transparent other than new unread mail appearing every now
 and again. It needn't interrupt what your doing at the time.

Maybe NTL's mail servers are more reliable than Pipex's bit short mail
outages, but mail server outages, or even my ADSL connection going
offline for a few minutes are some of the reasons I would like to be
able to suspend mail collection for a while.

It is very irritating when TB! dings (or whatever your error sound is)
every few minutes when there is a problem with mail collection. I may
still be working on my mail, so I don't want to close TB!, I just want
it to stop trying to collect mail for a while!

Julian

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Re: Message Despatcher receive settings

2003-11-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, November 2, 2003, 2:23:12 AM, Gordon Woolf wrote:

 When I use this to check a mail account all of the mail has the Read
 and Delete checkboxes checked but just a few have the Receive checkbox
 selected, and there does not seem to be any logical reason for what is
 selected and what is not.

From my own use of the message despatcher, I believe that it unticks
the receive box from any messages that have previously been
downloaded, and left on the server. I leave all my messages on the
server, and if I chose to view all messages (ctrl-Shft-f2) with the
message despatcher, it will show them all, but only mark those not
already downloaded for Receive.

What might be happening is that you have TB set up to leave messages
on the server.  The ones that have Receive unticked are ones that have
been downloaded, and the others are new.

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Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!

2003-10-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:06:44 PM, Anne wrote:

 So, the file you sent was really a compressed file and should have had
 the extension  .zip instead of .txt at the end of the title.

 Any thoughts as to why/where this may be happening? My
 correspondent uses comcast.net as his ISP - could it be something
 they are doing to the attachment - perhaps as an anti-virus
 measure? I can't see it being my ISP (Freenetname) or the one I
 mailed myself would have been treated the same way.

As far as I remember, the Zip file format is a version of uuencoding, so a
zip utility should be able to decode a uuencoded file.  This suggests
that your message is changing to uuencoded format somewhere on its
journey from your outbox to his inbox.

Julian

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Re: PATCH

2003-10-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 3:51:06 AM, John Morse wrote:

  I will update this patch with each new version
  I can also make you a personalized patch, but you
  must send me your message and it has to be 25 characters
  in length (including spaces)

This is good work for the people on the list, but I am a bit concerned
that hacking the executable like this is probably in breach of your
license agreement for TB.  I have not looked at the license for TB,
but most have a clause prohibiting such actions.

Julian

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Re: Woody's EMAIL Essentials?

2003-10-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, October 10, 2003, 12:51:09 AM, Gordon Woolf wrote:

 No hope for it here. In the latest issue editor Rose Vines writes:

 There are no good reasons for putting your reply beneath the original.
 First, it forces the recipient to scroll to the bottom, a waste of
 time. Second, if the recipient habitually replies above the original,
 as most people do, there's a good chance they'll fail to see your
 reply altogether and simply assume you hit the Send button before you
 started typing. You'll look dumb, then they'll look dumb. No-one will
 be happy. Third, your reply won't show up in the preview pane.

Yes, I noticed that one, although to be fair, the overall conclusion
is that your quoting style should match the needs of the recipient,
not not be fixed.  I have a top quoting template for use on work
emails, as people like to preserve a message history at the bottom of
a message, and think that I have forgotten to reply if I bottom quote.
In line quoting is perfect for mailing lists, but confuses many
people!

I will continue to subscribe for a bit, and hopefully manage to get a
mention of The Bat in the e-zine myself!

Julian

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Woody's EMAIL Essentials?

2003-10-09 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

Has anyone see Woody's Email Essentials yet?  This is another free
e-zine from the Woody's Office Watch stable, and all about Email.

At the moment the e-zine is very Outlook and OE focussed, but they do
mention other clients. Perhaps they need some comments from TBUDL
about the best email client there is, as it is a pity that so many of
their readers don't know about TB!

You can subscribe to the weekly e-zine at
http://woodyswatch.com/email/ or I can send you a copy if you ask me
by PM (not to the list). The latest issue tells you about using an
external program to clean subject lines and the text of messages, for
those poor people who don't use TB.

Julian

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Re: Woody's EMAIL Essentials?

2003-10-09 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, October 9, 2003, 8:55:46 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote:

 I use TB (both this version and the 2.x).  I also need an external
 (X-Ray) to clean subject lines on incoming mail.  Are you saying you
 have a way of cleaning incoming subject lines automatically?

No, I think it is done via the clipboard.  Looking at it more closely
(http://ronbrandon.com/lukeminnie/email_cleaner.htm) is appears that
is just removes '' marks and does not clean the header after all.

 BTW, I tried the archives and the current issue links.  In both cases,
 I received a It's missing page :-(

They are encouraging people to subscribe by not making archive copies
available yet :-(

Julian

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Re: TB!, SpamPal, or POP Server?

2003-10-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 2:18:22 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

JN The other problem is that SpamPal sometimes just spins and spins
JN and does not ever allow downloading; the process has to be
JN terminated through Windows.

 To answer part of my own query, it seems the culprit here might be the
 Bayesian plug-in, version 1.07e3.  Still evaluating, though

I had the same problems with the new version of the Bayesian plug-in
too, and went back to the previous version of it (1.06) which works
OK.

Julian

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Re: Worm filter text

2003-09-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, September 28, 2003, 8:39:36 AM, Neal Laugman wrote:

 We do the best we can. No one else has been willing to share what they
 have been using and there are people like me who have a very serious
 problem to deal with.

I think, perhaps, that many people on the list have abandoned trying
to filter spam using TB filters when there are many excellent
third-party spam filters available. There is so much spam around now
that it takes too long to try to keep filters up to date, and as fast
as I change the filters for new spam, the details change again.

I use Spampal, together with the Baysian plug-in, but others use
Popfile etc.  They are free, do the hard work of keeping filters
up to date, and therefore offer excellent value for money.

Julian

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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:40:47 AM, Vishal wrote:

 Ok, great. I just automatic mail checking with NO firewall installed and it
 still doesn't work. I'm using the eval version of 2.0.0.6. It looks like ZA
 wasn't to blame after all. What could be wrong?

Is it something to do with the settings under Options|Network and
Administration.  In particular, perhaps there is a problem with the
Mail Checking settings here.  Try various combinations of these.  As I
am using an DSL connection via a router, I am using the Network
Connection option, so the options are greyed out.

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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 4:50:29 AM, Vishal wrote:

 Not yet. I'm aware of it though and someone else just brought it to my attention
 as well. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I can't get BlackICE to work.
 Thanks.

I used BlackIce for a number of years, before finally ditching it in
favour of Outpost. I found that there were a few problems with the
processes in BlackIce that disrupted my day to day work. Application
protection scanning was slow, and had a modal dialogue box that would
sit on top of the screen whilst scanning and could not be dismissed.
Very frustrating.

Outpost v2 Pro has been excellent so far.

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Re: some threads not sorted as threads

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:56:44 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 I suppose it's a coincidence. Threads are being shown as full threads
 as long as there aren't any branches split from their common root.
 The ZoneAlarm thread you were mentioning had lots of separate branches
 that kept going on. On such a thread it's more likely that you're
 deleting common roots than on a thread maintained by two
 correspondents.

I checked the references on the broken threads that I have, and found
that I no longer had the messages with the MID: in my message base,
because they had purged.  As I use a maximum limit of 200 messages for
deletion purposes, and the list has been generating lots of traffic
recently, I have had lots of broken threads because the earlier
messages in threads are being lost.

I have not (yet) seen any examples of TB! breaking threads that have
references to messages that have not been deleted. YMMV, of course!

Julian

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Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 2:49:12 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote:

 The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as
 automobiles. I.e. I just want it to work and don't care how it
 works.

This fits in quite well with the following bit of research:

-
A staggering one in seven technologically challenged employees needs
help even switching their computers on and off, according to research
commissioned by City  Guilds.

The UK vocational awarding body's study of 405 random UK financial
directors revealed that, despite the fact that PCs have been around
for over thirty years, getting to grips with the devices is totally
beyond many British office workers. A fifth were found to struggle to
save a document, more than one in five need assistance printing, while
a quarter cannot understand a spreadsheet.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/67/32742.html for the details
---

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Re: expanding the height of the message header field?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:16:21 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote:

 here, it adds a fancy scrollbar argh
 I think that's a bug, can you confirm?

No bug.  You have the option for each header for it either to expand
the header section permanently to display it, or add it to the end of
the headers and put in a scrollbar to keep the header section the same
size.

Go to Options|Preferences|Message Headers (in the tree view)  Select
the header that is in the scrollable bit, and click on Edit.  At the
bottom of the dialogue, de-select Display in Scrollable Part of
Message Pane.

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Re: Start up: The Bat balks

2003-09-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:44:16 PM, David R. Austen wrote:

 Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to
 reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook
 (Outlook is not used for my email.)

 And nearly every time I start The Bat, I see this message:  A call to
 an OS function failed. I then hit Enter and The Bat runs normally.

I run Outlook and TB (I also use Time and Chaos for work task
scheduling, but have not found it to be an adequate replacement for my
contacts and diary). I do not have any problems, but this message does
ring a bell - it sounds a bit like Outlook and TB fighting it out over
default settings, as Outlook fights a rearguard action if it is not
the default client.

Have a look at the Programs settings in IE (Tools|Internet
Options|Programs) and then the individual defaults for Outlook and TB
and see if you can find any conflicts. I always had problems with TB
being the default handler for .VCF, so I leave this and MSG unticked
in TB! Everything works fine without.

Julian

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Re: Start up: The Bat balks

2003-09-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 2:03:05 PM, Deborah W wrote:

 Really? What do you find that Outlook does with your contacts  diary
 that TC won't?

The main issues are Palm synchronisation, the big issue finding
something that supports Date Book Categories on the Palm, as used by
DateBk5.  I have tried a few programs to find something that will
work, but not, as yet, succeeded.  I liked Lotus Organiser, but it did
not support Categories, a problem with many PIMs.  I am hoping that
Chapura (of Pocket Mirror fame) will write a conduit for some
alternative PIMs, as they understand categories.

I don't use TC as my diary because I like to keep my appointments and
calendar separate from my todo list, which the TC Palm sync will not
do. I was not very impressed with the address book!

Julian

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Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:50:12 PM, Alexander wrote:

 If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck,
 would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high
 update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee
 and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee?

Cost, I should imagine.  TB is not a high cost product, and the costs
of providing an upgrade procedure based on this, which would probably
require considerable manual checking, would probably wipe out the
profit.  As I noted before, although the current upgrade policy may
not be fair to recent purchasers, it does have the benefit of being
cheap to operate, and therefore helps to keep the costs of the product
down.

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Re: Template file?

2003-09-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:53:04 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote:

 Are the templates in one or more files, if so which one? I would like to copy
 the file over to my BAT directory in the Notebook.

When I transferred TB onto my laptop, I created a backup on the
desktop machine, and restored it on the laptop. I had to make some
changes to the connection properties on the laptop, because I connect
differently on there, but apart from that it worked perfectly, and all
my templates and filters transferred too.

Account settings are in account.cfg, filters in account.srx, QTs in
account.qtn, and other account templates in account.flx. If you open
the files in Notepad, you can usually work out what is in them. Make
sure you back up the original file on the laptop before transferring
just in case it goes horribly wrong!

The other way to do it is copy the text from your templates into a
blank document, and transfer the document to the laptop, and then
paste the text into your laptop templates. This is how I manage it for
small numbers of templates.

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Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:14:05 PM, Mark wrote:

 If the current upgrade price of $17.50 goes to, for example, $25.00
 (Personal/Private) while the full The Bat! v2 Personal/Private cost is
 $35.00, I would probably pay the $17.50 now rather than $25.00 later.

You don't have to actually install V2 now if you want to wait until
the first service release or two - once you have the email with the
key, you can save it until you upgrade.  This way you can get the
lower price upgrade, but continue with version 1.x for the timebeing.

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Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 4:21:31 PM, Alexander wrote:

 And, I beg your pardon, I'm trying to raise something like a conscience
 when you call it whining. Lets get ripped off over  over again, we really
 don't deserve any better.

I don't think that there will be any winners to this argument.  I see
TB as representing excellent value for money, and I would happily have
paid the full price for the upgrade - it is still a relatively small
cost for such a high quality product, and I see my registration fee as
a fair return to Ritlabs for their continued investment and
development of the product.

At the same time, I can see the point you and others are making. If
you don't feel that TB represents such good value for money, then you
would not be happy with the registration/upgrade fee. I can understand
this, even if I do not share it.

In the end, I don't think that Ritlabs are going to change their
minds, which is their right. After all, they know how much it has cost
to develop TB, how much they need to get in in registration fee
income, and how much they can generate from new users. The existing
user-base represents a large potential source of income, and I can see
why Ritlabs would want to tap this. It might seem unfair, but perhaps
that is just business ecomomics.

Having said that, if TB cost $150, then I would probably be arguing
with you - which just shows that it is all down to perceived value!

Thinking about it, Ritlabs are probably trying to save admin costs
with the current upgrade policy.  A system based on the date of
original registration would be very costly to administer, whereas
having a fixed upgrade period makes it much easier.  After the end of
the initial period, everyone gets a new licence, so no need to check
existing serial numbers and licence keys.  If this method helps to
keep the cost down, then I am all for it.

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Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 5:49:37 PM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:

 I can't believe that there are people who take it for a fair option to buy the
 upgrade now and only start using it in a couple of months. Think about it,
 how ridiculous is that?

If you believe that Ritlabs are a private company, and are free to do
what they want, then this approach seems to be sensible, as they are
not likely to change their minds!  You don't have to want TB v2.x now,
but if you think you will after October 2003, then it is still worth
paying the $17.50 now.

Perhaps the people who have upgraded to v2 and paid the reduced price
registration fee are getting a discount for beta-testing the full v2
release?

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Re: Registration woes II

2003-09-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, September 5, 2003, 4:23:11 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:

 there are only two fields in V2 registration dialog, Key and Checksum,
 no password is required, like in V1.x.

I think I was asked for a password when I purchased the licence, but
the license installed automatically when I clicked off the email with
the key and checksum - very clever.

Julian

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Re: Blank e-mails - again

2003-09-01 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 1:33:19 PM, John Phillips wrote:

 That is a common thread with the last blank e-mails as well.

 Is this a bug in Bat?

I tried the same as Thomas, and got a blank message.  I think that it
could be related to Big5, and strangely, if I select the Big5 CharSet
myself [View|Character Set|Chinese Traditional (Big5)] Thomas's
response to your original message becomes blank, although I can see
all his other messages fine. The exported message also remains blank,
so perhaps it is blank because I don't have Big5 on my PC?

As a further test, I then changed the Character Set in your copied
email to USASCII by editing the tb.msg file I created, and it displayed
fine.

Julian

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Re: Problem with sending attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:21:31 PM, Mary Cassidy wrote:

 The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send
 attachments with the Netscape e-mail program. I use a router with the
 main provider, and an external modem with the reserve one.

 Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat?

This problem rings a bell, but I cannot remember the details.  I am
pretty sure that the problem is not with TB! however - I think that
the problem will be with your router, possibly with any firewall
settings you have in it, or in any software firewall you have.

You say that you can send messages with Netscape?  Is this the same
message and attachment, with the router, using the same provider?

The other thing that causes a sudden disconnection of your internet
connection is Blaster, of course, so it could be worth checking.

Sorry if this is not much help - more questions - but perhaps the
answers may help someone else suggest a solution.

Julian

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Re: sender info on reply's and forwards

2003-08-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 5:49:02 PM, Eric Santon wrote:

 How do I get the macros to come up?

 Where should I insert those into the template?

If you go to the menu bar and select Account|Properties... you will be
presented with a dialogue with a tree menu.  Go to Templates and click
on the +.  You will then see the account templates.  These will be
used for the account folders by default, so they should contain the
required macros.  If they are blank, then one thing you could do is to
create a new account and then copy the templates (simply by copying
and pasting between the templates.

It could be that you have a folder template (or perhaps an address
book template, and you will find these under the properties for each
folder (or address book) (the menu Folder:Properties).  You can also
cut and paste from another folder template, as above.

Julian

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Re: Deleted messages resurfacing when syncing

2003-08-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, 2:08:39 PM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:

 Synchronizing seems to be working fine between my desktop and
 notebook, however, with regards to the Inbox, messages I've deleted
 seem to be resurfacing.  Any idea why this is?  Does the sync process
 just add mail -- what happens if I sort mail/delete mail, etc...?

Synchronisation does not delete messages, but will add messages from the
source machine (the installation at step 2) that are not on the
destination (the installation at steps 1 and 3.  If you have deleted
messages on the destination (or moved them to another folder), but
left them in the original locations on the source, they will be copied
again, but not deleted.

I tend to do synchs one way only to avoid this, and do an occasional
backup of the pc installation and restore onto the laptop to match the
message base and filter.

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Re: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)

2003-08-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 7:20:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 I can't run it at all, since i can for the life of me not find the
 system restore thing on my Win XP Pro. Where should i look for it?
 Cymantec said you should turn it off, but as i said i can't even find
 it, so i don't know if i've got it.

According to Woody's Windows Watch, you should open the Task Manager
and look at the Process list.  If you have msblast.exe running then
you are probably infected.  The removal tool will remove the program
from your system - ending the process will stop it until the next
reboot.

You can find the most recent version of Woody's Windows Watch (WWW
#6.14 - Getting Blaster'd) at
http://www.woodyswatch.com/windows/archtemplate.asp?6-14 which
contains lots of information on Blaster and what you can do.

Julian

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Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, August 4, 2003, 2:18:31 AM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:

 I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop
 when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you
 would leave mail on the server.

Mainly because of the problems keeping filters up to date on both
installations.  The result can be that messages get into different
folders on both machines, and this leads to duplicates.

The other reason is a very practical one - laptops are relatively easy
to loose or damage, so I would rather hold messages on the server for
a few days so I can be sure that I get them on my desktop PC than
depend on being able to synchronize from the Laptop.

The other thing to remember with Synchronisation is that it is a one-way
process - it makes the Installation A the same as Installation B, by
moving messages that are not on A but are on B onto A.  This means
that to do a full synchronisation (matching both installations) you
have to run it twice, making different machines the target and
destination each time, if you see what I mean!

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Re: Problem with Replying

2003-08-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, August 4, 2003, 11:28:30 AM, Chris wrote:

 I'm having a problem with replying to messages in The Bat! The problem
 is that The Bat! will only include some of the original message in the
 reply - not all of the text. Is there an option to set how much of the
 text The Bat! includes in the reply, or is this some sort of bug? I
 want The Bat! to include all the text of the message I'm replying to,
 no matter how long it is.

You don't say how you are replying, or what text is missing, but two
things spring to mind:

- TB! does not quote sigs in replies, so everything below the sig
delimiter will be cut (-- )

- f4 only quotes the highlighted text.

One way to get round the chopping of the sig is to use the %text macro
in your reply template.  This appears to quote the whole of the
original text, including the text below the sig delimiter.

If you changes the template you use for the list, don't forget you
will need to manually trim your reply to get rid of the sig text, or
use f4 on the text you want to reply to.

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Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, 10:23:38 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface
 configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at
 different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a
 high likelihood of being different.

I have not found this to be the case.  Synchronize will work on the
message base and address books, but does not work on account settings
and filters.

I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date,
so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can
collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2
days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine.  Every couple
of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP
connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up
the accounts.

In general it works well, but I do end up with duplicates,
particularly because the filters don't copy.

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Re: Configure TB to run NAV 2003 in conjunction with Spampal

2003-08-01 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, August 1, 2003, 7:36:05 PM, Bareges wrote:

 What I can't resolve is how I incorporate the
 pop3.norton.antivirus that appears from my searching to be
 required for TB to activate AV.

You don't need to. Norton scans email at the port level, so does it
irrespective of the client email settings. If you send or receive mail
and AntiVirus is enabled to scan mail, you will see the scan window
appear.

Older versions of AntiVirus required you to use AntiVirus as an email
proxy, but not any longer.

Julian

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Re: Lost Smart Bat Entries.

2003-07-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 6:26:17 AM, William Moore wrote:

 I changed the partition structure so when I restored TB! files I had to
 point TB! to the new paths. No problem. Unfortunately I seem to have
 'lost' all my Smart Bat entries :-( TB! is still looking for them on
 (and trying to write new ones to) the old partition path.

From memory, all you need to do is right click on the SmartBat Window,
choose New Pad, and then browse to the new location of your smartbat
entries.  The pad will open in a new tab, and then you can use the
same right click method to close the empty one.

Julian

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