Re: Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, at 18:25:20 -0700 Januk wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JA On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 21:35 GMT +0200, a stampede was JA started when Mandara hollered: Well, that's something... ;-) JA I know this should really go on TBTECH, but I suppose one or two of JA these every couple of years on TBUDL isn't so bad. . Januk, thanks a lot for the all useful things you wrote. I'll proceed with it on tbtech, as you and Luc suggested. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9X7lsvgcu6yV9/zYRAhHEAJ9HcfE2Coe2iv9+Rc7zw4K1eB7ObACgt9qM /GFqvgoH+cnSuEHxVaVXrbA= =P1cy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypting received mails ... ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, at 21:17:53 +1200 Carren wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CS Probably a crazy question, and it may be more a PGP question than a CS TB! one, but why can't I encrypt a mail that I have received? CS In other words, if someone sends me a plain text email and I want to CS keep the contents private, why will it not let me encrypt it to my own CS key? I realise that I could just copy and paste it and then encrypt CS it, but I am curious to understand why it can't be done. In addition to what Marck already said, you can use ScramDisk and make your encrypted file where you can put your Bat folder with confidential mail. Even more, this file will appear as an added separate partition/drive and will be invisible until you decrypt it. Also you can put all your mail folders in a such encrypted file/partition. Any time you restart/turn-off machine this encrypted file/partition disappears until next decryption. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9X7flvgcu6yV9/zYRAlKOAJ0bfmrSGoR6aOn3fTb5Kt2ia8P1IACgga0R 4WoDED7qlcVWa9AgxjPSgAo= =ZdV9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, at 11:15:42 +0400 Alaeddin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AM Can TB write HTML messages? Officially, no. Unofficially, yes. But this is work of devil. ;-) Nobody loves HTML mail, and if such love exists that's a lost love. Anyway, you can make your HTML, add all loads of pictures and so (pics must be in the same folder with html), and when you finish it, open a new message in TB and add this HTML as attachment together with all pictures. That's it. I discovered it once I had to send a very complicated formatted text as an uncompressed html attachment (to a person who knew nothing about WinZip and similar tools). Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9X8Sxvgcu6yV9/zYRAvbfAJ924Lyif0ogM8EwbcYfYByh8n2NhACgtzB5 28dsJTZyV3fU1dHs2DLrFSQ= =e2Ns -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypting received mails ... ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, at 13:19:19 +0200 Peter wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM You can move the message to an outbox. There you can open and edit it. But if original headers are needed, they will be lost. In this case, only solution is with editing message by exporting-editing-importing. But this way message is still changed. I think the best way is to put such (intacta) message in a folder in an encrypted file/drive. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9X7uZvgcu6yV9/zYRAk5NAJ9kxMY1ViPYxubJAOKyO7fks3Cj8ACfdHEo Fk7PqnVWUOqWYlCGt1VQlDQ= =cGkn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Glyphs for TB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aloha! Hello again after a certain pause. I hope everything is still OK and all are alive and well. A while ago there was a word about Bat's glyphs here. They recommended me to see Tony Boom's article at: www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html in this regard. Now we have another article of how to make own glyphs and/or how to use glyphs already modified by other users, in two languages: http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html. A small archive of such a glyphs can be downloaded too. Also there is an idea of making sort of glyphs gallery and enthusiasts are welcomed, if any. to moderators I don't know if is possible, for those who can't receive mail from tbudl for a while, using a similar address as this one for digest mode is? Would be easier just to switch to nomail mode instead un-subscribing. /to moderators Be happy, Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Xp6OsOEJB6JviGQRAjIjAJ4w50qVo9xmLNGAce4YtZ+EJyJojQCfY4kJ xewP5EU67b9SDz3BUpEHkF8= =5E1E -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I need just one simple thing: extract a defined *single line* from message header and put it in body of reply. But no matter how is that simple, I couldn't do that. This one ^From: (.*)?$ extracts to much and doesn't stop at the end of line (includes entire header from the from line downward). This one ^From: (.*?)\.\w+\s* extracts only till dot in address domain name (e.g Name username@ispname). Is there some elegant formula which would take only one line you chose by the first word in the line? Be patient with me, please, I am very beginner, and already infected with regexp (last night downloaded Gerd's tutorial and forgot to go to sleep). Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9XqUevgcu6yV9/zYRAgeFAKCP9L4Y9o6CGS3rn1FfDEKkaV9MdgCfbDUo o6wOSJd2puP4RTdNqrq0+84= =pkSF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A special, separate, list for TBregex?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there some interest in making a list which would deal only with regex used in TB? I mean something similar to already existing several separated TB sections. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9XvYdvgcu6yV9/zYRApymAJ46J8454jRiOccF+GXPzmw/I8IrMwCfcYW4 oL/sIvl89s4KtU1hUw4wYQ4= =Xenm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, at 22:01:02 +0200 Peter wrote: PP ^From:\s*(.*?)\n PP You see the difference? The question mark is _inside_ the parentheses PP and it searches for the 'newline' explicitly. Yep, I got it. I glued myself with $ as only metachar for the end of the line. ;-) PP This should work quite fine and have everything after 'From:' followed PP by any number of white spaces but before 'new line' in sub pattern 1. Works like baby. Thanks! Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Xvo9vgcu6yV9/zYRAudYAJ9PVtEWzdTskGnc95hHuYovfy9OKQCePJ24 tbwahriRb9bFsBKZv8R7dT8= =uV7H -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Part 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 May 2002, at 21:37:13 +0200 Gerd wrote: GE Ok, that's it. Let's start. I hope you will enjoy the tutorial :-) As a relative beginner in regex, I can say it was a real pleasure to read this First part. I can't wait next ones. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84TURvgcu6yV9/zYRAujVAKCz9oTnVcMLjo67MiGHpnwW8mDGiACgrV8t +wjdNk1UDfFyBTcAXLJ6FAU= =F46e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: middle mouse button scrolling
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 May 2002, at 07:02:10 -0700 Nick wrote: NA Who knows... one day RITLabs may fix the bug. ;o) But, if this is just another improvement (in the art of scrolling, in this case) and a matter of (an enhanced) new conception... g Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84BbMvgcu6yV9/zYRAjzHAJ9Qlc/JB75lY6/rREtOXatJi9yKtwCgoGme HDPtIeQ94E2sVNVNXSxq2+I= =lvRs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Back with the Bat! and a menu question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 May 2002, at 22:21:24 +0200 Gerrit wrote: DE List-post: DE List-archive: GK Is there a way for me to include these fields into the headers of my mail? I run a GK mailinglist with the bat, but cannot find macros for these fields. I think you can do that with X-Ray Mail Assistant with {in|out}going mail. This program is anyway written for TB, as I know. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84ELUvgcu6yV9/zYRAm33AJ9xkxdFVfwvA4bzyXYZnFJcHmEx+ACdFsRC QTXrh/JPmQ/Y7lDjWstSOtI= =3cYn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60k
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 May 2002, at 16:17:40 -0600 Pete wrote: PM I am now downloading The Bat! 1.60k Is this a wise thing to do or PM should I say a step up from 'h'? Ah... :-) PM Should I uninstall 'h' and then install 'k' or just install over it? If this is a rar file (which contains only exe file), from the beta page, then just unrar it and copy over old thebat.exe file. (You could rename old thebat.exe in tb160h.exe instead copy over it, though.) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84FCAvgcu6yV9/zYRAssvAKCBdmdwuIJ7dAOupk7TI3Jj0/s/PwCgtkvj a1IGc4p11HWlfghPsByjfGU= =ZP2/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 11 May 2002, at 21:52:44 -0400 Michael wrote: MD Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in MD the Trash folder. Is there some way to delete messages that they MD don't end up in the trash? Hmm, I think it is not possible, except if you delete entire folder, which is not possible with Inbox folder. Other possibility, but hardly, is that trash folder is emptied in some automatic, or some other not noticed, way. MD So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi MD files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder? No, copy them in a temporary folder somewhere *at HD*, not in TB, then compress your Inbox folder *in Bat*. Then close TB, then copy tbb and tbi files back in *Inbox folder, at HD*, then start TB. If this is what I mean, then you should see messages from your Inbox folder, in TB, again. ***I recalled another reason why you cannot see your messages, and it can be pretty mussy: if folder structures in TB are not corresponding with folder structures at your HD. It will happen if you changed location of messages.* files at your HD. But, that what is very important is a fact that you still have messages.* files from this Inbox folder at your HD. As long as you have them, and as long as you have them copied in some safe place, would be possible to find a solution. This is most important. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83ljzvgcu6yV9/zYRAuM0AJ0eLLK9KBAkmC+cfn+URmbSWFpWDQCglm7N aCztliExAiPvE3+XFYfHf9I= =gsu4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Turn off the bleeping beep
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 12 May 2002, at 21:51:57 +0900 Yuki wrote: YT Damn stupid thing still beeps. Hmm, sounds as a cursed wav... Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83mtZvgcu6yV9/zYRAiSeAKCr+WYMwL/PvKxuP4DYj8IjK03AxgCdF+PR CyXdFw+UPKJVC0T+0KRFg9w= =EPLp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 11 May 2002, at 18:25:59 -0400 michael wrote: mmc As I said in my original post: I don;t have a virus scanner currently installed on this computer, and View-Display is set to All messages. Maybe you accidently deleted all messages from mailbox, but you still didn't compress it since you have them in tbb and tbi files. In this case, just copy those files in some temp folder, then compress folders in Bat and close the program. Then, move again tbb and tbi files in the inbox on the disk and start the Bat. Messages should appear then. I have no other idea in this moment. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83ap1vgcu6yV9/zYRAkrPAJ9e6pJiOpQ/X03id3+azW3zU2jifQCfes1O nJsQdxCTA/cO91YcuzUYRXk= =OenW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 10 May 2002, at 17:17:59 -0400 Dave wrote: DG I certainly agree with you on the scratch pad. There are plenty DG capable clipboard extenders available which have the added advantage DG of being usable outside of TB!. One even do not need that. It's enough to make a txt file and write in the first line .LOG. It will do what SmartBat ;-) is doing. And would free some memory in TB for something useful. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83Gbfvgcu6yV9/zYRAkPXAJ9ty27PXjFddeO06K+S0ZsGOjO5+QCaAwJH ZjilWbBVP9E5ymPuAe50/bw= =Izj/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Cookie file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBudlers, I thought something... Is it possible somehow attach a random file? For instance, a small simbolic pictures (20-30 b{i|y}tes)? Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE82vj3vgcu6yV9/zYRAmIIAKCaIJonW+W1PxU3y9ZyHqWsLJnLewCeJVtL /AAP4grwAjaqXNv2Ayck6HE= =fkwM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 5 May 2002, at 03:29:13 -0800 Lynna wrote: LL Is that a email addiction? Definitely. You should enter the club of E-mailaholics International. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE81SBmvgcu6yV9/zYRAh1fAKC0eK5kkEt5G2uACXOazTlyeqk8jQCgjChO PT7VkgXQXau5K/OcA/KSh84= =YDbR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 5 May 2002, at 09:52:07 -0800 Lynna wrote: M Again, don't turn PGP off, since there is no reason for it; this M system is readable for all. But if you are using MS CryptoAPI then you M should count on that that some of us cannot read those messages. LL It is too bad that the MS cryptoAPI is not supported equally through LL all versions of TB and other mail clients because it leaves the LL smallest footprint visually on the email when sent. OK, I agree, as to the visual impression, though S/MIME in general (not only MS's one) is sending more bites than PGP/GPG. LL What I mean to say is that visually it is the most appealing, less LL intrusive than several lines of garbled code,letters, numbers. If LL it were equally supported, accepted I would opt of using SMIME of LL PGP in every day email for that reason alone. I use PGP because I LL operate a web site community and I use a form which encrypts to LL PGP to safeguard members personal information as they send it to LL me. : ) Hmm, I wouldn't say it is a good idea to use anything of MS for safeguarding whatever. I'll say it again, in the case I wasn't clear: no any problem with normal S/MIME, but there are problems with MS CryptoAPI's S/MIME, since the last one simply is *not* same S/MIME but 'something' made by M$ and is simply *not* compatible with normal S/MIME and doesn't support a general S/MIME standard. So, if you prefer S/MIME, I would recommend non-M$ CryptoAPI S/MIME. Though, in general, I higly recommend PGP, especially GnuPG (Gnu Privacy Guard) and GPGShell (GnuPG Shell) for it, if you like to work by mouse and don't like too much command line stuff. GnuPG is tiny and powerfull program and via GPGShell is very easy for handling. (M$ stuff just *seems* easy and simple, but is *very* complicated, especially in the back[s]ground, and especially regarding security. (-;) So, if you really care about your members would be good to avoid M$ stuff. :-) LL snip M As to upgrading: I, personally, cannot upgrade TB if it lack in some M options which were present in previous versions, and are highly vital M for me, just for the sake of some options which are highly buggy and M completely needless to me. It would be in fact a downgrade or M mussgrade. I, still, hope those 1.60x versions will as soon as M possible be just a messy past. ... LL Out of curiosity could you share some of those options | functions LL that were a part of previous versions that are no longer included? One of lost options is browsing by the first letter of the name[s] of the folders through accounts/folders (in account pane). LL I thank you for your e-mail, it was informative, and I will turn the LL PGP back on, though I wish it made less of a footprint in the actual LL e-mail's sent. You can turn the S/MIME on too (but not Crypto API's one, that is if you'd like we who don't support API can read your digitally penned scriptures). :-) LL Version J is working fine for me, but then, as you LL mentioned I have not used any version before 1.60c and therefore have LL no experience with TB prior to version c to compare it to. I would bravely endure all other bugs, just if they would give me back my browsing by the first letter of... etc. :-E :-) Mandara - -- A man with a shorter leg is a man with a longer leg. (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE81aD5vgcu6yV9/zYRAmE4AJ0R3q8KeJnIHX1vdqqh2euyC2bYjwCfYrSL AmfNawN4HVod4qQjid1Gkp0= =cxYN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: S/MIME standards was: Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 4 May 2002, at 08:53:00 -0500 Michael wrote: MD I can confirm this. I've tried reading a message originated from MD Outlook and TheBat! 1.60c. The implementations are mutually MD incompatible. So much so, that Outlook will not even recognize that MD the message from TB! was even signed. The behaviors are consistent MD with 1.53d, 1.60c, and 1.60h. MD This leaves the question, do we need to buckle under to MS to get MD S/MIME to work? As I see things, we don't at all. We *already* have S/MIME even without M$. MD If so, then I'll resume using PGP. You don't need: I see your S/MIME signature and I can verify it and it is valid here. PGP/GPG is also OK. MD Also, how old is this new local standard? Have no idea. First time when I heard about it were those new weird Bat versions {without ability to browse by the first letter of the name[s] of the folders through accounts/folders (in account pane), I would add}. Have a nice day anyway. :-) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE81aSdvgcu6yV9/zYRAuMKAKCRI23wykCZLCeityuevHhuLdTH/QCgmQbz /1vtoLGyRq+ERWT2zM4xRdo= =DFRI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 5 May 2002, at 22:51:11 +0100 Marck wrote: I would bravely endure all other bugs, just if they would give me back my browsing by the first letter of... etc. :-E MDP I prefer the improvement myself.. browse by progressive search. Much MDP quicker for navigation IMHO! If this progressive search is faster than putting a finger on a key, than I would highly appreciate instructions how to do that. Just in the case that a misunderstanding is possible here, my full sentence was: One of lost options is browsing by the first letter of the name[s] of the folders through accounts/folders (in account pane). Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE81b6Pvgcu6yV9/zYRAi84AKCs9ftbNixHWRLUVhSWD1x41Rve3QCguGf5 x8tspq2EcBhsX8hgJyB6eXw= =LdEd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 5 May 2002, at 17:19:12 -0800 Lynna wrote: JA I think what it means is you type the first letter, and it JA matches the first folder that it reaches... when you type the JA second letter, it tries to find the next folder that begins with JA letter 1... AND 2... for example... You have: JA * Folder 1 JA * Fldr 2 JA * Inbox JA If you Type F it selects Folder... if your next key is L it JA moves to Flder 2 as it matches the FL to Fldr 2... is that JA clear? My explanations on some things are awful... at least that JA is my understanding on how the 'progressing' search works anyway. LL I am using j version of TB but If I place my cursor in the LL folder pane and I press a key on the keyboard the highlighted LL folder changes to the one named with the corresponding letter, LL such as press T it moves to the folder named 'The Bat ' is this LL what he is referring to as searching by letter? Dear Lynna, it seems very near, so just do the next, please: you have only to place your cursor in the folder pane and to press a T key on the keyboard. Then, *hold* your finger on this key *all the time* and just *watch*: _if_ it moves to *all* folders with names starting with the letter T, and if this starts again from the beginning when it comes to the end, making loops around all the time, and if this doesn't stop until, and *only* until you lift your finger from T key - - then this version is a Bat version without this bug! And, consequently, you'll give me the link for download. :-) Please. :-) *But*, if, while you are holding your finger on this key, there is *no* this permanent, continual, perpetual, eternal, never ceasing and ever lasting moving around in the cycles, and if this stops at any time, then this is just another buggy version again, and again, and again... Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE81efMvgcu6yV9/zYRAtX1AKCVQqw02sx1YoAM3AQJqIJkkUi/EQCcDebm wQCa1gtZBRhvWEmgk3SWSiU= =gS4W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
S/MIME standards was: Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 3 May 2002, at 05:51:47 -0500 Michael wrote, or scribbled: M Btw, the term Microsoft anything-dealing-with-privacy-security M sounds pretty weird, nein? Do you folks really think it is a good idea M making Bat involved with a such things? MD That was the point of one of my earlier messages. You're right. I saw this letter later. MD The answer is no. :) So, we have already a folks having all two members. ;-) MR I still don't know why the two implementations should be MR incompatible, but they are. I can S/MIME sign using either one, MD They weren't. This is a bug that has been reported. Hm, no, it refers to normal S/MIME implementation/standard and MS' a new local standard they devised to make things less usable, as usual, and by this to divide Internet community again. So this is not a bag, this is just a mess with standards and standards. Btw, MR refers to Melissa's comment. She explained this standards problem in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] just fine and clear, and we have no answer yet. Btw2, I see your S/MIME signature as valid here, as usual, so I suppose it is a normal standard S/MIME, not MS' CrippleAPI. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80n1qvgcu6yV9/zYRApDuAKCxnuCdPmjcFJtcZ+aiulldkdqzkQCgp0ol uLt5FDcH+7pQI1eUK7gKhas= =SlWQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 1 May 2002, at 11:55:30 -0700 Melissa wrote: MR I'm using 1.60c. All of Lynna's S/MIME signed messages show here as MR invalid with *both* TB!'s internal S/MIME implementation and with MS MR CryptoAPI (and yes - her key is properly imported here as well). MR If I open her certificate to have a look, it says: No signed MR attributes. I even cannot open recent Lynna's messages: only what I see is the line in the header window; body window retains previous body contents. Regarding other's S/MIME signed messages, they are all good here. 1.53d. (Btw, I almost deleted entire thread since I wasn't interested about Anti-Virus topic.) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80FBrvgcu6yV9/zYRAtmxAJ9xOw9XF+bkGoa1BBxF9P3x1uy/wQCgrWVs l3d5Sq6k84z2HOGD4jTGSC0= =nBx9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'dink' wav sound on some actions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2 May 2002, at 11:52:58 +0100 David wrote: DS With about 30 accounts 'dinking' every few minutes this morning DS due to a failed network somewhere in Europe I'm going 'dink' DS crazy. He, heee... DS Is there a way to turn it off as it tends to intrude on any music DS I'm playing as I work! You can do that by Tweak UI (under Genereal tab uncheck Beep on errors). Another way is to change 'dink' by 'honey', 'eeek' or something, if you edit Ding.wav in M$'s Media folder. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80T8yvgcu6yV9/zYRArWMAJ9qTy6QDl/DiZ69MAIwSY63fMJchQCdE12X 4C6VVr3Xuo430koAavrby/U= =JtFV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2 May 2002, at 12:02:36 -0700 Melissa wrote: MR If you go into Options | S/MIME, and set the preference to MR Microsoft CryptoAPI (instead of TB!'s internal S/MIME MR implementation), you should be able to open Lynna's messages. Ah so. OK, thanks. I'll remember this if I move to newer version[s]. Btw, the term Microsoft anything-dealing-with-privacy-security sounds pretty weird, nein? Do you folks really think it is a good idea making Bat involved with a such things? MR I still don't know why the two implementations should be MR incompatible, but they are. I can S/MIME sign using either one, MR but when I try to verify, I can only properly verify a message MR using the same implementation that was used to sign a particular MR message. I thought that S/MIME was supposed to be some sort of MR standard - like OpenPGP. Well, since M$ made own versions of almost all things/prgm languages, maybe is something similar with this S/MIME 'standard'. Ahhh... Just an idea. Using The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows 98 MR Why are you still using such an old build? Though it is not directed directly to my reverend self, I'd like to answer (I'm still using 1.53d)(-:. - I simply couldn't browse folders by first letter of their names, in versions 60, 60c, d (I didn't even try further). Since I have, in this moment, exactly 357 folders in 21 accounts, a browsing drawback like that is a deep cruel sorrow to me, regardless any improvements which new versions are bringing. Right that moment when I hear it's possible (again) with some of these new, fancy, versions, I'll go to pick this one up. I'd like to hear some opinion about that option from some experienced Bat user, very much, and your comments/info will highly appreciate. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80bcwvgcu6yV9/zYRAv87AJ0WPvflSymRzgMHf2cBw7RTuopSigCfcVqV K+Rc7f2F6Nb0e1vHHYJZg3g= =5A7g -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Song of the forgotten bugs and S/MIME standard[s] was: Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 03 May 2002, at 00:27:44 +0200 Mrten wrote: Btw, the term Microsoft anything-dealing-with-privacy-security sounds pretty weird, nein? Do you folks really think it is a good idea making Bat involved with a such things? M the bat! has S/MIME because outlook has it. market-push... what! no M s/mime support! me no buy!. Good. I know guy who made a discussion list and wrote down: Not for AOLers. Ahhh... Bat became so excellent right because it was *different*, and pretty independent. Ahhh... Hmmm... Grmph... Hmmm... Well, you see, if we observe this approach consequently (market-push), than we can expect that TB will become a software bloated with M$ and similar shiny trash. At the some point we could just ask ourselves is it still TB or something completely different. I think not so few of users will become disinterested for a such versions, and know some which already are using only versions prior to 1.60. Standards are very important in mass-communications, and M$ is just breaking it, but this is M$. Question is: why TB's supporting this? But, maybe I grasped TB concept wrongly... ### Second, and much more important, part of the message: I simply couldn't browse folders by first letter of their names, in versions 60, 60c, d (I didn't even try further). M i'm using 1.60h and have just tried... when i type 'e' and 'r', a M folder called 'eric' gets selected... is that what you mean? M (select the folder pane first ofcourse) Of course. But not, that's not quite exactly what I mean. If you have several folders starting with letter e try to browse this way and you'll see that you can do that only once. For instance, I have in each (of 21) account folder named Lists and could easily switch between them just by typing L all the way around. Similar is with folders News, Private etc. I just downloaded h version, and they still didn't fix that (from v.1.60). Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80dVZvgcu6yV9/zYRAq9TAJ4+yTkVA/d8aNsRKHoDtSNBazL8QQCeJ248 /t4LyI5PVW25RuHNcZoH3K4= =wsne -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 1 May 2002, at 11:55:30 -0700 Melissa wrote: MR I'm using 1.60c. All of Lynna's S/MIME signed messages show here as MR invalid with *both* TB!'s internal S/MIME implementation and with MS MR CryptoAPI (and yes - her key is properly imported here as well). MR If I open her certificate to have a look, it says: No signed MR attributes. I even cannot open recent Lynna's messages: only what I see is the line in the header window; body window retains previous body contents. Regarding other's S/MIME signed messages, they are all good here. 1.53d. (Btw, I almost deleted entire thread since I wasn't interested about Anti-Virus topic.) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80FBrvgcu6yV9/zYRAtmxAJ9xOw9XF+bkGoa1BBxF9P3x1uy/wQCgrWVs l3d5Sq6k84z2HOGD4jTGSC0= =nBx9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 19:54:34 +0100 Marck wrote: MDP The only way to do this is to replace the standard glyph images. MDP There's an article by Tony Boom about that on the FAQ site, Hmm, there's no glyph files in my TB folder[s]. Is that related only to some particular versions? MDP Did you read the article? Yes, I did. Everybody who did it could find that some of necessary informations are simply missing, or some which are given are misleading. To repeat where this article is: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html MDP The default glyphs are built in. if a glyphs.bmp file is present, MDP then it overrides the defaults. No file is present by default. MDP This feature has been around since Max made this announcement: MDP ,- [ Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:51:30 +0200 ] MDP | The Bat!, starting from 1.38 Beta/4 has an ability to load external MDP | custom glyphs. MDP `- Thanks for this answer. In the Tony's article only what is mentioned about glyphs is that we have to: 1) Save the glyph.bmp file to The Bat directory, reboot TB! and see what it looks like. -- without any notice anywhere that default glyphs are built in (even is said glyph.bmp, not glyphs.bmp); 2) First of all, open P[aint]S[hop]P[ro] and then open the standard glyph.bmp. Decide what glyph you're going to modify. -- How could one open standard glyph.bmp if it is built in? 3) Another thing to remember is that the whole glyphs image file is like a big grid. Each icon needs to be placed centrally in its own square on this grid otherwise they may not be aligned or they may even be part missing when TB uses them -- without any mention about dimensions of this grid, number of icons and their sequence. Only what is mentioned is that each icon is 25x25 pixels, without any notice about dimensions of its own square. How could one place something of 25x25 pixs in the center of something with unknown dimensions, and above all, which cannot be opened since it is built? IMHO, this article should be updated and needed information which are missing and are incorrect should be presented and corrected there. Else, I would really appreciate any other source with complete and correct informations. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8y9Livgcu6yV9/zYRAiQYAJ0TvgJ8A9vBzgFIZEeYHvpVwOorkwCdFInh fjbilTBqitEEHgMoZtsH6Sg= =gE0b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 06:34:31 -0500 Allie wrote: ACM If you like, I could send you the current glyphs.bmp so that you can ACM work on it. I don't know how I got it since it's so long ago, but I ACM now have it. Oh yes, please! :-) I just started playing with them and it is pretty... contagious. ;) Thank you! Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8y/Kwvgcu6yV9/zYRAo5RAJ4xVdvqBIfg8Ou4biDeuWzNGklVTACbB+3U sFAKfwB2LePAQgFuNTaD2y4= =ocIT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 06:34:31 -0500 Allie wrote: ... M IMHO, this article should be updated and needed information which M are missing and are incorrect should be presented and corrected M there. Else, I would really appreciate any other source with M complete and correct informations. ACM We are yet to have any official documentation of this. I don't know ACM enough about that sort of thing to offer my own information. I don't ACM know about Marck as well but I think he's in the same position as me. ACM If Ritlabs doesn't provide information on this, then some cough ACM 'reverse engineering' will be required and then the documentation ACM created from this. At present the only updating that we can do is to ACM change the part about loading the standard glyphs.bmp file. ... Hm, I think that Tony's old article can be useful yet, just if is added some old (downloadable) bmp grid with it. Even with only the grid accessible, one can do the job just fine, since is easily visible where is what, so it is easy to decide what to replace. After you sent me (thanks again!) one of those glyphs.bmps, I made wished changes and am completely satisfied now (I couldn't stand just few things - folders (;-, colors and shape). Maybe is not a bad idea to upload several grids (originals and modified by users), so that assortment can be more luxuriant. If there is an interest for it, I can offer, as a first one :), what I did with my grid (folders looks really nice, at least to my eyes ;-). Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zGKzvgcu6yV9/zYRAnrXAJsEIBOzJP5hdWUZmODuKtih+aEQ4gCfYuAf dDbIieXRyDc9+oFMxnDLR40= =DRaj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 21:45:51 +0100 David wrote: ... DE Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My thanks to Oleg DE Zalyalov for this tip) And my thanks to you for you shared it with me/us. :-) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zGR2vgcu6yV9/zYRAjU9AJ4vXvEQljfIkwhp3l5JpYmVnReD7ACgm/Ka yyIy2c6lkeA/zELQR5Tsm8k= =JQFS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 16:29:36 -0500 Allie wrote: ACM Mandara [M] wrote: ACM ... M Maybe is not a bad idea to upload several grids (originals and M modified by users), so that assortment can be more luxuriant. M If there is an interest for it, I can offer, as a first one :), M what I did with my grid (folders looks really nice, at least to M my eyes ;-). ACM I'd sure love to see what your set now looks like. One copy of this message with attached piece goes to your address. :-) ACM Hopefully, if we have some nicely modified glyphs, we could create a ACM web page for them. Anyway, maybe folks would like to have some gallery of glyphs for disposal. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zHALvgcu6yV9/zYRAkiyAJ0U5KV4xRAYNshT/rvSw7qu6/HPRQCeMXzY nyMJBaDHE/vBtAFqtcN6a8E= =WHzW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 23:06:47 +0200 Mandara wrote: DE Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My DE thanks to Oleg Zalyalov for this tip) M And my thanks to you for you shared it with me/us. :-) Actually, I found much easier way to do this: just make a html page and attach it in message. If you have some pictures and background inside, attach them too. So, no any export/import work around nor modifying headers. I sent it to myself and received by Messenger: it looks quite properly, with pictures, tables and background pic on their places. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zHZpvgcu6yV9/zYRAi3xAJ9Iq20iAm5UEaZYLOSvlfv9QC8dGgCfcMFt /b5XWXfnbNndtCCz5eFnaE0= =Nxyd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 16:10:41 -0700 Nick wrote: Actually, I found much easier way to do this: just make a html page and attach it in message. NA With the WORM_KLEZ.G floating around, why would you even consider sending NA someone an HTML page? Better to send them a link to that page and let them NA decide on their own. Oh, it was just a matter of a technical solution regarding Bat. Personally I'm sending html messages very rarely, usually if someone likes some multicolored birthday cards (made by me, and when I know what codes exactly are inside) and similar. Aside that all of that stuff is AV checked before sending. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zI4Lvgcu6yV9/zYRAs5zAJ9L9O4Bx/g7AL9FmFroaJAIdzJYPQCff0O0 rk3+6NT1KAweQJQdQKNjZ5w= =oYho -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Policy Amendment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 23:40:33 +0200 Mrten wrote: M pretty please with sugar on top. M Mrten. M (was I being impolite?) No way, with all those sweets. :-) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8ydQRvgcu6yV9/zYRAq1aAJ9TTZAyCTVZJjPH+AGBFb5yajUVMwCgjCmw Co+Qh/eZBF66lpUPlXONMjQ= =ZFno -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 09:52:53 +0200 Miguel wrote: until she could drive Mercedes CLK-GTR MAU Is that a new PGP version? ;-) A car simulator. ;-) It goes 300+ km/h, but is very stable (Made in German). ;-) Btw, if you need fast PGP program, use GnuPG. It is like Blue Bird. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8x78rvgcu6yV9/zYRAsMKAJ9DWU615SzrF0mDuFJyGhYY+O4lpQCdG1SX 83XKIzRPIgq3cO6oHAFezz8= =uZB9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 11:26:58 +0200 Roelof wrote: RO It was Jeroen's father who lost a password, I was only an innocent RO bystander who tried to help on this list. Yes, you are right, I mixed quoted text. M because such things are some of the most painful and hardest to M solve when happened. RO Personally I'm more interested in how to do things than how to fix RO things, Oh, it is just other side of how to do things. And it happens usually suddenly. :) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8x9C/vgcu6yV9/zYRAoU4AKCEcnKlYwGP/Y64RwaYG8jxilzMKQCgiRj8 Oelw/XeMvSGVLa2cqcaDL+I= =MXpJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 11:06:51 +0100 Marck wrote: MDP The only way to do this is to replace the standard glyph images. MDP There's an article by Tony Boom about that on the FAQ site, Hmm, there's no glyph files in my TB folder[s]. Is that related only to some particular versions? Mandara (v1.53d) - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8yErNvgcu6yV9/zYRAuSvAKCm7Pif6skEYj+tNr3n9BtaGypYXgCfVWUO KztxnP13BdYFobmW6S5DiCY= =biCg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 11:21:35 +0200 Gerard wrote: G To bad this doesn't work for EML files. OE keeps pulling this one back. G I hate this program :( Why don't you simply kick this out? Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD4DBQE8yEm8vgcu6yV9/zYRApFcAKCzWJ2sKo1cok0Jh/9tTkymIjQTBACWMoWb TiCcCQ3wlEEjWO1aL2KirA== =jutp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Selected downloading
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 17:49:17 +1000 John wrote: JP Strangely pop.yahoo.com.au still allows free POP access. Nope to me anymore. It was uncomonly nicely to see today no more spam in mailboxes. (Now all of that is going to Yahoo itself. :-) Mandara -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name and password - Please help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 21:52:55 +0200 Roelof wrote: J My father has the Bat version 1.53d. The following problem occurs; J shortly after the splash screen the Bat asks for a name and a J password. My father cannot use therefore the emailclient. As for I RO Try to delete the password (or the group) at: Options - Network admin [Un]fortunately there is no way to skip account password. If you forgot it that's the end with this account. But, if you have some important mail inside you still can read it through some other applications (one of them is Mailbox Assistent, or something like this). Only way to access this account is to recollect password, whether this could be realized by ordinary old god concentration, deep[er] meditation, or hypno-seance (be careful with the last one, since it's possible to discover more than... appropriate). Though I hope, father locked nothing important, since he was just playing around with the Bat. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xny4vgcu6yV9/zYRAh1AAKCd/VlYaf5L2Mnin7cKEn0DFYbB4gCgrZDV dXeGTMiCXrf5NXVmqwaP+Fw= =nlg/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 15:46:01 +0200 Miguel wrote: MAU Please do not confuse the average TBDUL user and take this MAU question/issue to the TBBeta list. With a deep respect, there is no average TB user. Average users doesn't use TB. And beta versions have beta sufix. Dave's one is just g[ee] one. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xsI+vgcu6yV9/zYRAuaiAKCFC6msJW4pHPc2AlHElPfA2IleZwCfahFv 6zrebPQReBwJ+vcsDCPfJvc= =GsYG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 10:38:58 -0500 Greg wrote: M With a deep respect, there is no average TB user. Average users M doesn't use TB. And beta versions have beta sufix. Dave's one is M just g[ee] one. GS With all due respect apparently the users who post to the TBBETA list GS don't think so. GS I am a new user to TB! and am quite pleased with it to date and GS read/scan all messages in TBUDL, TBBETTA, TBOT because I'm learning. GS Without getting into specifics I will say some users have interesting GS view points of other users of TB! that post to TBUDL. I WILL say some GS comments that I've read should NOT be posted to ANY list. My deep apologies to all if I said anything incorrect above. Off course I'll have nothing against if I said correct things. Also I am ready to take any responsibility if I said anything partially [in]correct. I'm always ready to change my opinion if is not in tune with reality. I agree with all what You said and believe in it. Let's share our resources of knowledge and education in a noble manner, as always. With a fully deserved respect, Mandara - -- Bad trolls Bad trolls... Whacha gonna do... Whacha gonna do when they post here too... (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xt0Wvgcu6yV9/zYRAiIOAJ9XiUaaGHLbgqFtSW4wWWQZBteDggCglCLR PpBL5bhO/f0ToGvB+H+YnCE= =x8ZB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 18:59:40 +0200 Miguel wrote: I'm always ready to change my opinion... MAU Only wise men are ready to change their opinion. :-) I'm always ready to change my opinion if is not in tune with reality. My full quotation, just for the sake of correctness. :) Since animadversio est mater[tera] sapientia. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xyEQvgcu6yV9/zYRAijgAJsEGsk+2vmwRyusHzUNdbKWNWIUaACeMeMu 7GuFELfMT1zW4Cj7LzWq1mE= =UWK+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-mail geniuses figure this out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 18:13:36 +0200 Miguel wrote: With a deep respect, there is no average TB user. MAU Also with deep respect. Yep. Accepted this way. MAU First, I didn't say average TB user nut average TBUDL user, MAU which is different. Please accept my solemnest apologize, but I would stress that both expressions are definitely a contradictio in adjecto; TBUDL user nay much more than TB user, since it indicates that a common user got to learn even more about h{er|is} favorite fellow mailer. I would go even further and say that even in a moment of using Bat only once, a [wo]men is not same one anymore: it is a moment when s/he transcended a tiny red line between average and initiated. From this moment on, s/he deserves title initiated user (which is equal to TB[udl] user and non-equal with average in any sense), because nothing is same anymore and s/he entered the realm of a real software, so that twilight zone of Doubtlook Distress and similar immortal jokes are definitely finished and abandoned forever. MAU And second, and whether you like it or not, when there is 2 or MAU more of something (TB or TBUDL users in this case), there is MAU always_ and _average_. A different story is if the average MAU _level_ is high, medium or low. But there is an average. To say most honestly, I don't think that mathematics is a matter of liking or not. Regardless this, I am tending to humble say that by ordinary I meant nothing dealing with quantity but with proprieties. Average users doesn't use TB. MAU With all respect to the average users that you seem to look down on MAU because they don't know how to set up a template with a macro to tell MAU us what time it is where they live... With much more than all respect, you mixed me with an other reverend fellow member of this noble list: I never dealt with any user here having problems with macros. MAU Yes, of course! I forgot that we TB users are all geniuses! Hmmm... ;-) V (^_^) V MAU And with much more and real respect, because she is a lady and also MAU perhaps because of her age, Melissa's mother uses TB. From what MAU Melissa tells us, would you consider her average, above or below MAU average? If we follow with respectable attention my previous exposure, we can remark that term average, leastways in a way I'm using it, is related to technical knowledge/skill, but no way to judging about personal proprieties of any reverend person here, or anywhere, nearer or not so near. Personally, I'm still pretty interested in this moment about two cases here: about recovering Melissa's mother's databases (tbi, tbb) and about forgotten password of Roelof's father, because such things are some of the most painful and hardest to solve when happened. Unfortunately I'm not sure that I can offer more than others and moi already offered, but who knows, I'm still trying to find something out. And, at the end, a direct answer to your question, and according with all what is already said: persons dealing with the Bat cannot be considered as average, neither as persons nor as users. We have, I'd say, a rare honor to have such parents who are able to get in clinch with a peeks of the modern science (and fiction, I'd add), so it is also our honor we may teach them, very patiently, how to manage with it. Do you know how much time I spent with my mother (70+ years) until she could drive Mercedes CLK-GTR in Need for Speed III? Next she have to learn is driving El Nio (in pursuit/cop mode). So you see now... With a respect deeper than ever, Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xx8xvgcu6yV9/zYRAgTeAKCcf2atq8PRQQD6XGsjtqYX6AIN5QCeKuBw 4PmiDsfBdGaWYd/edjOyQGk= =yTZy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Folder colours
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 13:50:57 +1200 Carren wrote: CS I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub folders CS for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue. I have no CS recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have just created CS another set of folders/sub folders for yet another list I have CS subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree doesn't appear CS as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same colour as the others? Color of the folders signifies state/status of the mail inside. If you have unread messages, then folder is blue. If you have unread messages in subfolder[s], then main folder is marked with red check[ing] sign, etc. If you like to turn blue colored folder in yellow one (as others are), then you just make all messages in it read. But I wouldn't do that just for a color game. :-) + Principle of painting of folders is, therefore, status of messages inside. Experiment a bit, and you'll find more meanings about colors. Have a fun fun. Mandara - -- Baaa baaa... flap flap flap ... whoosh ... thud. (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xP0uvgcu6yV9/zYRAid0AJ9/qtyPC8irhFL0Hu1hwu8myGEdcACgmjUJ lWnEgpDJGfvlyeHfm/6FOjE= =RDpl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 12:55:12 +0200 Gerard wrote: DH I'd say Yes to the dialogue. G And you have to say YES over and over again. G Can't TB! remember this setting and change it automatically? Certainly yes, indeed. Go to Options | Preferences | Applications, then check .VCF, push Associate now, say OK - and that's it. Your leg will not be pulled anymore. Mandara - -- Thum, thummm, thummm, thum, thu, thumm. Thum, thummm. Thummm. Jolly good. (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xaTXvgcu6yV9/zYRAtqtAJ9rO+boeHPFS3fiffQynCKqTTyOtQCePPPL EB6JwY2Fz7dkwMxMQponVPM= =ADkv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 17:13:28 +0100 Marck wrote: MDP As Allie wrote to George at that time chuckle I think your using MDP Netscape is pretty unusual these days.;-) As a result no-one seems to MDP be sharing your problems.. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply but MDP effectively what it means is that not enough noise was made at the MDP time for RIT to have issued a fix for any Netscape import problems. Hmm. Netscape (especially v6.x-) is not pretty unusual these days at all. :-) That what is unusual, IMHO, is that BAT's versions 1.6x+ have loads of bugs and omissions. First time when I saw this I thought that programming team is changed. Else, with Bat's versions prior to 1.6x importing from NC (etc) works excellently. I don't know for NC versions 6.x since I don't use bloated software. Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new version, if he'd like it. Mandara (v1.53d) - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xbJXvgcu6yV9/zYRAjnGAJ4gXYm3eQ9+L5su91G1aWdoGN6ndgCgnLJp oECzSDg6dmKIxD+SpEVS8x0= =LjOo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List of files and registry keys for un-install??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 10:36:30 -0400 Andrew wrote: AH Is there a complete list somewhere of files installed and registry keys AH created or modified by installing The Bat? I get an error message trying AH to un-install from Windows control panel and I'd like to remove all AH traces... TIA. RegKeys are here: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! For an [de]install log file nothing is known to me. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xay9vgcu6yV9/zYRAlMgAJ4vp6lbSPxas8pktqlKZ4dAx8axjACfdbAU 9aOMHHeHX+TEdJuA/MfxUhM= =qdXL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List Rules and threading (to Dierk)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 20:55:14 +0200 Dierk wrote: DH Hopefully I was coming through as patient - although I admit having DH been a bit more uneasy than usual on this list. Which has nothing to DH do with Andrew, but only with the growing amount of these kinds of DH messages (wrongly threaded, completely new topic, no change of subject DH line). Fool Moon approaches. Sometimes is not easy. Let's keep the smile. g Mandara - -- Thum, thummm, thummm, thum, thu, thumm. Thum, thummm. Thummm. Jolly good. (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xdM4vgcu6yV9/zYRAh83AKCtZeK8OHABcnooS0B5POvaUYqrXACeNGvz Rl4GcHSzFIEs3vVBRszs1jQ= =sdXH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Browsing by first letter was: Re: (no subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 05:41:57 -0500 Allie wrote: ... ACM Only the user can tell if he has a need for such a tool. ... Btw, there is a very annoying bug in versions 1.60x: you cannot browse folders/accounts anymore by first letter of their names. I have ~350 folders in 20+ accounts with specific character(s) at the beginning of name of each account (#) and main folders' names (1, 2, 3, , $, *...) which was of the great advantage when I have to find things quickly, and all of that is now completely useless. Aside any other things, it is main one which is keeping me away of those versions. Is there any chance for this to be fixed soon? Mandara [v1.53d] - - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8w/kfvgcu6yV9/zYRAj4GAKCXV+PwLM/NM+jQKVwoBvYohZpW/ACfaRPN fLiZnzFlSnJboQJnE7gwnAM= =dTSH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My mom does it again!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 11:52:46 +0100 Christopher wrote: ... CTD Maybe if the confirmation said Delete 9,043 Messages from Inbox CTD instead of Delete 9,043 Messages then you would have an extra CTD warning that you weren't emptying the Trash folder? Hmmm... Maybe some (screaming) sound too. Mandara - - -- When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8w/lBvgcu6yV9/zYRAmmDAJ9CG1+sBQxMgROMpYJXe3LOvZIMOQCfcDkC Po2oXoLQDnJU5HJBLKjhnJc= =kPXY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 06:10:56 -0500 Michael wrote: How does one actually use dispatch from within TB to delete mail at the server? DH When you open the Mail Dispatcher and it connects, you see the DH different columns. If a message is only checked for deletion, TB! does DH send the DELETE command to the server. MD OK, I'm slow, so bear with me... :) That means ONLY the delete flag MD should be checked? Yep. :) All what is checked will work, all what doesn't will not. By default receive and delete is checked. So you have to un-check receive and leave delete as is, if you don't like some mail. Mandara - -- He's kind and gen'rous to the sick, He'd never spread a nasty rumour, He never gets on people's wick, And doesn't laugh at toilet humour... (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8w/4Zvgcu6yV9/zYRAquZAJ9Z4J/AMTJm5azd8qjXbV+AMNmeqwCeOmhw gJIxx/e4bjboydR3Cz1cqhU= =JWqJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browsing by first letter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 07:21:38 -0500 Allie wrote: M Btw, there is a very annoying bug in versions 1.60x: you cannot M browse folders/accounts anymore by first letter of their names. I M have ~350 folders in 20+ accounts with specific character(s) at M the beginning of name of each account (#) and main folders' names M (1, 2, 3, , $, *...) [...] CT Works here. ACM I didn't know of this feature but it works here as well. You guys have some f and g versions - where can I d/l them, please? That what I reported was about c, d, and maybe e (since I gave up after previously mentioned ones). Maybe is not bad to say more precisely: if I try to browse this way it shows first hit, and sometimes second one, but doesn't go further. So, if I have to browse by character # through 10 News folders marked as # News it will hit first and maybe 2nd one, but will not hit rest of other 8, it simply stops. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xAyqvgcu6yV9/zYRAgwaAKClZMttmw3VuZK/PCG3Tiq/trGCHQCfW0H3 jCb0a1jLZIOWUEHGZ5mR5pQ= =u6J2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browsing by first letter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 16:04:16 +0200 Roelof wrote: ... M Btw, there is a very annoying bug in versions 1.60x: you cannot M browse folders/accounts anymore by first letter of their names. I CT Works here. ACM I didn't know of this feature but it works here as well. M You guys have some f and g versions - where can I d/l them, M please? That what I reported was about c, d, and maybe e (since M I gave up after previously mentioned ones). RO The c-version also browses fine with first letters, not only with RO first letters, but also by partial/full name, provided of course that RO the focus is on the folder pane. Not here. Of course, with appropriate focus. M So, if I have to browse by character # through 10 News folders M marked as # News it will hit first and maybe 2nd one, but will M not hit rest of other 8, it simply stops. RO You mean to say that you've got ten folders with the same name? Yep. But in different accounts. Another example: I have prefix 1 before name of each account; this way I can switch fast between them. For important folders, regardless accounts, I have prefix 2 etc. So just by picking keys I find things in seconds. RO I can't switch between different folders with the same name, You cannot even *make* folders with a same name in a same level. But if they are not in the same level, and still have same name - you can. It is same as in Winblows Explorer. But this is word about *first letter* (of a name) here as a reference, not about entire name. RO can't switch between Inboxes, but for the rest If you have no other folders beginning with I you can easily switch between Inboxes through accounts. It seems we couldn't understand each other. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xCNpvgcu6yV9/zYRAkOZAJ93Qe7vwAhY5c60jlm8UOrK6r+axwCgk+vi cS01yNsS0ZxX+eqOG4OfFjs= =SBrY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IFrame.Exploit virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Go to Account | Properties | Mail management, and check + Invoke automatically at each mail check and + Show all messages left on the server. Then, each time you check this account you'll have displayed list of messages on server with an option to delete them, amongst all other nice options. Mandara On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 14:05:15 -0400 ETM wrote: E Because I couldn't make that work smile. E Elaine E Hello Peter E On Monday, April 22, 2002, you wrote Why not using 'Account' / 'Dispatch mail on Server' / 'All messages' - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xFiovgcu6yV9/zYRAl5uAJ0ZH9jiSQ2dosbKkRdaqEPpCptf1ACfWj3a O4Na8PnqrsTw8wjx7d9V5Xw= =XGzg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatically store reply in same folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 18:57:55 +0200 Roelof wrote: G I would like a drop-down ( or even a pop-up) here which memorizes G all my previous smtp servers. RO I've been told that X-Ray is a nice tool for that purpose. X-Ray can RO be found at: http://www.xrayapp.com/xray RO I haven't used it myself, since I'm no roving mail user. There are few days I'm using it, and can say it's an excellent and very helpful little tool. It manages smtp servers on the fly too. Mandara (the rover g) - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xFwJvgcu6yV9/zYRAvsgAJ9iZexoxKsv7iMJg3dHHPJUWfJwBgCgmBhm 3ZtUPOFjfynfNaQuD2Lj8os= =C7de -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My mom does it again!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 17:35:39 +0200 Dierk wrote: Yep. And if forgotten, some fine plug-in for desktop shaking. DH Tilt! flashing. Aaarrrgggaaa, hahahaha, haa...! Kkkhhhrrr...! Cough, cough... Mandara - -- It beeped and said Countdown initiated. Is that bad? (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xFolvgcu6yV9/zYRAnPBAKCxXg5AihYQe/Q0YR8dri1nc+xbhQCfbo4Z puJHUrR7OQB7Md2lNGZq9ew= =RE6y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The BAT! and NAV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, at 14:08:45 -0500 Dwight wrote: The three ~~~ also fail. It is a problem with the %QUOTE macro generally used in reply templates. It just tries to be too smart. DAC If I am not misunderstanding your complaint, I'm not experiencing your DAC problem. Only if you put those --- as the first ones in line. You see, nothing in reply downward after them. (Btw, - are used in code for striping PGP sigs in replies, so if somebody doesn't like it (sigs), s/he could put some -s here and there, just to play a little. (-;) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8wYUQvgcu6yV9/zYRAl41AKCV0k4MMRl19vSWVcVkSPeNpGPl5wCfWbWh wsKf8szMiMIPi2mK3b2Z1R0= =ebDS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, at 17:47:28 +0200 you wrote: I can't find any advantage even of monitoring traffic at all. By my experience it is much faster (and cheaper, regarding resources and online time) to use some real-time AV monitor which will react if you try to deal with infected attachment. MAU There is definitely an advantage in monitoring traffic because not al MAU virus are spread in attached files. [...] I agree. And this is only spot which is not quite clear to me: if some nasty html code arrive in mail (not attached but embedded) would a real-time AV monitor detect it? Since we are using Bat, which has own rendering html machine, and since the trojan we consider here is writen for IE engine, it seems that there is no need to be nervous. Any way, a good AV monitor should discover *any* virus activities, regardless way of its execution. So if I could go to see this message with embedded html, and if I activate some nasty link, script or whatever - then AV should react, in a same secure way as if virus would start from an attachment. Am I right? I just cannot see why would POP scanner discover something which is not possible for HD scanner? If this AV database would discover something during POP scanning, it must discover it on HD too. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8wX0Nvgcu6yV9/zYRAmX9AKCkHE7Bkp9DIVqtuPh0dzhSCb4ITgCgttLb K1msoh6tAso2FsIvm7YpGxI= =BFcC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A good tool: Win32.Klez worm sent by me via The Bat!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, at 18:31:39 +0200 Peter wrote: PP Win9x http://www.free-av.de/personal/en/win9x/avwin9xp.exe AntiVir Personal Edition (today's update, newest version) unfortunately cannot detect even old viruses/trojan/worms, as Weird, Magistr etc are. Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8wkeKvgcu6yV9/zYRAvGdAJ4nIN0nyqRVl2VVP+sDB/UZWS31ewCePhUB bJMg1vAB/1UhpeEwI56O4Ww= =R6Ml -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: square brackets and rfc822
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, at 19:09:39 +0200 Miguel wrote: The problem is that such a large proportion of the messages on TB lists suffer from an overabundance of autogenerated fluff. MAU Fully agree. In the context of the list, a PGP sig only proves someone is capable of installing and using PGP, and little else MAU With full respect for those who use it, fully agree again. :) Guys, if you mind, please bear in mind that people are not such nuts (with full respect) to complicate their lifes by using crypto codes around, and all this for nothing. I agree I'd myself very like to avoid this hashed signatures, or would like more if is possible to put them somewhere else instead in message body, but this is not possible, or not yet. May I suggest you to use this RegExp which will automatically cut all that crypto and footer stuff off when you hit reply? It is enough to put this code (in one line, without ) in your reply template: %quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~.*-*_-)|\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3 Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8v0r4vgcu6yV9/zYRAhqMAJ9DWW+3zvTqUjCma/KhgnefQxF3LwCgog7D ULX7elA28O8yhuUsFYUJzEY= =biAr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Additional headers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 10:22:47 +0100 David wrote: DE x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with DE this. M Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day M to this one. RO It connects ok over here. DE If you want I can dig it out from my archive and send it to you off list. Thanks a lot David, Michael already sent me (thanks Michael again!), and above all I found that this link is OK but a tough Linux server on the other side don't like Flash Get - user agent Flash Get: access forbiden :-D - (probably because it's spyware, though I did surgery work on it). I have to bear it in my mind for the next time if I couldn't get some connection for a longer time. ;) Mandara - -- (__) If you need this key: ('') mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36 \/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8vBg1vgcu6yV9/zYRAjUlAJwOZ+SqAyrq4oA3qUbDpR5/HofB4ACeNQiF CcGml+T0vIKftj0D/EOJ8CA= =f1Ib -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat remains in RAM
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 11:46:03 +0200 BlueStrike wrote: RO Hello BlueStrike, RO On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:54:30 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 10:54 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's B utilization time. RO Is the connection centre still active? B Thanks for your quick reply. B Not that i could tell. If i wouldn't have checked the B task manager because my PC been totally blocked i wouldn't B know that thebat.exe is still running. There are no parts B visible also not the connection center. B Is it because of the MAPI integration? I have no clue at all. I have no idea what happens too and this is reason I am here now. In general v1.60c takes extremely amount of RAM, aside any other things. This strange usage of RAM was reason why many of people I know gave up and got back to previous versions, including me. Well, it also blocks (often) when I have to close it, and when I go to close it via task manager it blocks PC. Also there are strange conflicts with other applications, after which PC blocks. And, always when I back to old version (this one) everything is working like a baby. Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Additional headers?
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 13:38:59 +0200 Per wrote: PG And to get back on topic - I just tested it and their software requires the PG exact header to be present so the comment thing won't work. ;) Anyway you can play a little with analyzers: %COMMENT=%COOKIE='A:\Path\ToSilly\Cookie.file' Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Additional headers?
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 12:54:08 +0100 David wrote: DE However if you get x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with DE this. Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day to this one. Mandara -- If you need this key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x under work Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat remains in RAM
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 00:26:08 +0200 BlueStrike wrote: B I agree, looks like i have to switch to an older release of TB. B Which older version is doing it for you? This one, 1.53d, is working quite well and stable to me. Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Additional headers?
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 02:34:58 +0200 Roelof wrote: DE x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with DE this. M Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day M to this one. RO It connects ok over here. Thanks, it helps. :-) Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still two browser windows opening
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, at 07:41:34 +0100 Clive wrote: http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/myie32e.zip Size: 392KB, no setup, no messing with registry, no files in system. CT This URL doesn't respond. Any others that do work? You could try to get in the ftp directory first http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/, then pick up the file. There is even smaller one, myie32de.zip 259 KB, without DLLs, for modern Winblows. Only other solution is to go at home page and take a challenge with Chinese language, though it is only kanji (simplified sort of) http://changyou.mainpage.net/ If you do that, pay attention on infrequent English and check (by overmousing) the links on the left, up. If you're speaking Chinese, no problem. Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still two browser windows opening
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, at 05:49:18 -0700 Ken wrote: KM Here is another location, in English, for MyIE. Thanks to all who sent alternative addresses! :) Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system crash or How to Refix The Bat! Structure in Seconds
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, at 13:22:13 -0700 Melissa wrote: MR On Friday, September 28, 2001, at 1:00:11 PM PDT, Jan Rifkinson wrote: Troubles here. Yesterday W2K registry crapped out on me which required HD reformat. I copied the entire TB! folder prior to the crash. I've re-installed TB! I have the original folder stucture (no msgs) I don't have the original filters I can't figure out how to retrieve my original AB What else should I consider? MR Hello Jan, MR I recently did the same thing (re-format/re-install), and had no MR trouble restoring all my mail - and my address book(s). I did have to MR adjust a few minor things with my filters, and I had to remind TB! MR about all my additional accounts (more on this below)... MR I saved my entire TB! folder onto a CD-R. The *essential* folder MR within that installation to save was Mail. This included all the MR account information, mail, filters, address book, and a few other MR assorted bits. MR Since everything saved to CD-R was converted to read only, when I MR copied the files over to my clean HD, I converted them back to MR archive. Then, I copied all the contents of the backed up Mail MR folder into the new installation's Mail folder. Then... MR I had to *start* to create all the accounts again in TB!, and the MR moment I typed in the proper name for each account, the rest was MR recognized right away by the new account wizard, and all was well MR again. MR I hope this helps. MR Melissa Hm, it is a bit an old message, but I didn't see any solution as one which I'd have to offer. After lots of moving around with the complete TheBat folder structure and all the mail inside, and doing same what you described here (but 20+ times for each account), I perceived that if I go to Winblows' Registry (regedit.exe) and find the registry key under [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!] and if I save it *completely* (select RIT or The Bat!) as a .reg file (you can use file name gimmie back my Bat settings Now) - only what I have to do next time is to unpack archive (I'm packing entire The Bat! folder[s] at once) and to double-click at saved .reg file. And voila, I'm just l[a]unching Bat after that and *all* is in its old good place and order. :-) It is especially handy to me since I have 20+ various accounts. I suppose it would be of some help, regardless the fact that it is a spring answer to an autumn question. :) Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still two browser windows opening
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, at 17:36:44 +0200 Dierk wrote: DH From the name I gather - and it's only a guess - that MyIE uses the DH same core as IE. As does, BTW, NetCaptor. Yes, MyIE does it, since it is actually an enhancer, a filter, pace-maker (and very good one btw), not a standalone browser. It is good for those who cannot avoid usage of Idiot Explorer and is an excellent bypass for it, putting IE's engine under an different (and better) control. Crazy Browser use IE's core too, but MyIE is nearer to NetCaptor. Scope (same bypass category) uses both IE and Mozilla cores. MyIE could be considered also as a persistent patch for IE, and in this sense is better than other mentioned ones. So if you have a good firewall, and maybe Proxomitron too, you really can use IE's 40+ MB in a useful and very snug way. It is amazing what those micro applications can do. Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still two browser windows opening
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, at 19:13:26 +0100 Dave wrote: M Yes, MyIE does it, since it is actually an enhancer, a M filter, pace-maker (and very good one btw), not a M standalone browser. DC This is very interesting ... I love Opera for its speed and, DC specifically, for the fact that I can have several windows open DC and doing things at once and see them all easily distict from the DC other apps open at the bottom. Can I do that with MyIE? You can do *much* more with it. I forgot to say that all of those enhancers are tabbed and MyIE is most capable in this regard, it can open by default 100 (hundred) tabs at once (and you can set it for + or -). Each of those tabbed windows inside can be treated as different documents opened in Word, for example, arranged horizontally, vertically, minimized etc. But it is a bit OT thing, I guess, so maybe is better and easier to download it and see directly how it works, since list of features is a bit long. :) All of those browsers are very tiny, MyIE is archived in about 400 KB. It starts in 4- seconds to me (IE in ~10), together with Proxomitron. Difference in speed of browsing is even greater. You can download it here and see yourself: http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/myie32e.zip Size: 392KB, no setup, no messing with registry, no files in system. I've been trying Opera too, for the same reasons, but if you can put in reasonable use something already nestled in HD - and even in a better way, isn't that a better solution? Mandara -- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still two browser windows opening
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, at 22:03:49 +0100 Dave wrote: DC I have the same problem with IE 6, but not with Opera 6.01 or, DC indeed, NN 6.22 ... be nice to have a solution, eh? You could try Crazy Browser or, better, MyIE and set them as default browsers. Scope would be preferred solution if you want to use both IE and Mozilla engines in/at on[c]e. But if you use MyIE you don't need anymore Opera, since you can have same (and even better) control with it. Aside that MyIE is only ~400 KB (rely on IE engine) and is free. -- Regards, Mandara Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]